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Stratos
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic6104 Posts
December 10 2014 20:13 GMT
#21
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/bw-tournaments/473144-kongdoo-starz-league related
En Taro Violet
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
December 10 2014 20:48 GMT
#22
How can there be conflicts? Are they both planning to run 7/11?
prech
Profile Joined March 2014
United States2948 Posts
December 10 2014 20:55 GMT
#23
Hungryapps/Kongdoo is first out the door with the schedule, so it makes Sonic look bad if SSL10 scheduling comes out later and they're on overlapping dates

Perhaps Sonic/OGN can schedule for weekdays only to avoid any conflicts

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aRyuujin
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States5049 Posts
December 10 2014 21:52 GMT
#24
holy shit, so annoying to see them fighting now, when bw is speeding back up again
can i get my estro logo back pls
thezanursic
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
5478 Posts
December 10 2014 21:56 GMT
#25
On December 10 2014 16:24 lemmata wrote:
(Z)Killer wrote today (see here) that he will likely participate in both. Keeping my fingers crossed...

EDIT: It was actually (Z)Killer not (Z)hero...

Can somebody confirm this?
http://i45.tinypic.com/9j2cdc.jpg Let it be so!
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10668 Posts
December 10 2014 22:05 GMT
#26
Drama Drama Drama.... mmmm........ I don't really believe this is going to be as big of a conflict as your all making it out to be really, we are talking about YELLOW here, All of these top notch people Love BW and will do what is best for it i'm sure. I'm sure that all of these things will work out in the end, we need more BW not less BW.
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BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19224 Posts
December 10 2014 22:19 GMT
#27
Nothing but good news if Bisu is playing in another league.
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BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-11 00:14:50
December 11 2014 00:13 GMT
#28
This is just so stupid. I hope these rumours don't come true. The scene is still in recovery mode and yet we seem to have a fight already :/

On December 11 2014 07:19 BisuDagger wrote:
Nothing but good news if Bisu is playing in another league.

only a Bisu fan will see this as good news lol.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50107 Posts
December 11 2014 05:03 GMT
#29
On December 11 2014 09:13 BigFan wrote:
This is just so stupid. I hope these rumours don't come true. The scene is still in recovery mode and yet we seem to have a fight already :/

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On December 11 2014 07:19 BisuDagger wrote:
Nothing but good news if Bisu is playing in another league.

only a Bisu fan will see this as good news lol.


no need to overreact here, I'm sure sonic and yellow will work out the scheduling issues, also its not as if these guys who were all progamers and big A-teamers especially sea who was MBC's ace never had days where they had to play both proleague and then run to another studio to play an individual league, so its not so much a date issue, but time of day.
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icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19343 Posts
December 11 2014 06:59 GMT
#30
this is probably one of those moments where you wish for kespa
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purakushi
Profile Joined August 2012
United States3300 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-11 07:08:48
December 11 2014 07:08 GMT
#31
Hopefully these conflicts are all rumours

Everyone wants a part of Brood War.
Or the whole thing.
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shizzz
Profile Joined May 2012
Australia127 Posts
December 11 2014 07:13 GMT
#32
On December 10 2014 18:47 GeLaar wrote:
I really hope this gets solved before it even starts. One thing I don't get, though, is why nobody even expects Bisu to play. He said at the end of SSL9 that he's done with competitions, but since then he has participated in a few events, and now there's talk of him participating in the KSL. What's up with that?

To my surprise I find that, despite having been a Bisu fan for years, I would side with Sonic if it comes to a conflict. I think Sonic is far, far more important for the future of Starcraft, since he actually cares about the next generation of players as well, an doesn't just try to milk the fame of the legends. As far as I'm concerned, he could run the SSL10 with nothing but amateur players, and I'd still watch it.



The difference though is that Bisu is sponsored by Kongdoo and so was probably pushed into playing this, most likely by contract. The bigger leagues with A LOT more pressure, like Sonic's, are on a different level to the games he has been playing as well. He said he was over the preparation and stress, something that isn't as big a of a deal for little 8 man events etc. Who knows, maybe he really is at the end of his time with BW (for now?) and is looking at the military.. so the people paying him want to get a little more from him before he quits.

negativedge
Profile Joined December 2011
4279 Posts
December 11 2014 07:17 GMT
#33
yellow's revenge for never winning an OSL
c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11286 Posts
December 11 2014 09:03 GMT
#34
I never knew Kongdoo is YellOw's company. What do they do?

Personally, I think all parties will come to agreement. I think the major obstacle with this is the lack of [sponsored] teams. People can't practice for all 3 leagues (SSL, LSL and KSL) without some kind of financial support because there's no sure bet that you'll get a podium spot (maybe unless you're Bisu, Killer etc)
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Stratos
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic6104 Posts
December 11 2014 09:20 GMT
#35
Kongdoo organizes esports events, supports and promotes bjs, steals players from other leagues etc. I am of course only joking in the last point. Or am I?
En Taro Violet
supernovamaniac
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States3046 Posts
December 11 2014 14:07 GMT
#36
If this is intentional, then I'm not surprised.

I'm rather still surprised Sonic somehow partner'd up with OGN.
ppp
Epoxide
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Magic Woods9326 Posts
December 11 2014 14:40 GMT
#37
On December 11 2014 15:59 icystorage wrote:
this is probably one of those moments where you wish for kespa

bow down to our lord and savior kespa
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konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66155 Posts
December 11 2014 15:19 GMT
#38
urgh..
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konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66155 Posts
December 11 2014 15:20 GMT
#39
On December 11 2014 18:03 c3rberUs wrote:
I never knew Kongdoo is YellOw's company. What do they do?

Personally, I think all parties will come to agreement. I think the major obstacle with this is the lack of [sponsored] teams. People can't practice for all 3 leagues (SSL, LSL and KSL) without some kind of financial support because there's no sure bet that you'll get a podium spot (maybe unless you're Bisu, Killer etc)
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god damnit why did i even click that spoiler when i knew what was gonna be in it LOL
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lemmata
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
468 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-12 00:29:45
December 12 2014 00:20 GMT
#40
On December 11 2014 05:55 prech wrote:
Hungryapps/Kongdoo is first out the door with the schedule, so it makes Sonic look bad if SSL10 scheduling comes out later and they're on overlapping dates

Perhaps Sonic/OGN can schedule for weekdays only to avoid any conflicts


Well, Sonic may look bad if that happens but it won't be his fault. 1) OGN has its main LOL programming on Wednesdays and Fridays. That's their main money-maker. I don't think SSL is going to take over those spots. Furthermore, OGN's Yongsan live event facilities will be occupied on those days. 2) With offline leagues, you need people to attend the events in person. Most people are only going to be able to attend on Friday evening through Sunday.

Let's not forget that SSL10 must be a success commercially (and therefore in terms of viewership) in order for OGN to keep broadcasting BW. This isn't just about this iteration of the league.

Once Sonic got OGN involved, his hands were effectively tied with regards to the schedule. The only question is whether they will be able to delay SSL until the end of the Kongdoo/HungryApp league.

As many others have suggested, I am also eagerly awaiting Sonic's announcements on the actual schedule... The rumors are scary, but we know very little for sure at the moment.
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