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HyralGambit
2439 Posts
Hope to see some entertaining games tomorrow between these two legends. Just a treat before OGN's Star Final Six matches in a few days too  EDIT: Stream: http://www.twitch.tv/taketv Event finished VOD: @12:21:30 http://www.twitch.tv/taketv/b/536234505 + Show Spoiler [Results] + Stork won 2-1 :D 
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BisuDagger
Bisutopia19240 Posts
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GoShox
United States1837 Posts
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HyralGambit
2439 Posts
On June 07 2014 05:54 BisuDagger wrote: Cheering for stork, but I think JD has this easy. You think JD might give Killer a call for some build suggestions? :p | ||
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Artunit
Philippines399 Posts
On June 07 2014 06:01 HyralGambit wrote: You think JD might give Killer a call for some build suggestions? :p Haha yeah. But I don't think that is necessary. Fun game between this 2 players asking other player's advice to beat each other is an insult on their level :D | ||
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castleeMg
Canada761 Posts
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McRatyn
Poland901 Posts
On June 07 2014 06:12 castleeMg wrote: cool its gonna be interesting.. im curious to see how good jaedong is now... probably still ridiculously good Jaedong's last BW showmatch, doesn't tell much about his skill though | ||
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T0mken
Norway78 Posts
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Miragee
8509 Posts
On June 07 2014 06:16 McRatyn wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhAkgRKP4Jo Jaedong's last BW showmatch, doesn't tell much about his skill though Yep, ForGG didn't test im at all. But his muta micro for example seemed kinda off. I'm kinda confident that Stork is still in form. I mean he could still beat S class players back when he played WoW.  | ||
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Boonbag
France3318 Posts
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JohnChoi
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Xinzoe
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Qwyn
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_Animus_
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Denmark302 Posts
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ArvickHero
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purakushi
United States3300 Posts
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Boonbag
France3318 Posts
On June 07 2014 08:04 ArvickHero wrote: i heard rumors that jaedong still plays BW the side and is ranked quite decently, like B rank on fish or so. I think this will be quite one-sided lol when was the match vs forgg then ? cuz in the yt he looks baaaadd | ||
Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
On June 07 2014 08:12 Boonbag wrote: when was the match vs forgg then ? cuz in the yt he looks baaaadd about 6 months ago. very end of last year I think | ||
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HyralGambit
2439 Posts
On June 07 2014 08:04 ArvickHero wrote: i heard rumors that jaedong still plays BW the side and is ranked quite decently, like B rank on fish or so. I think this will be quite one-sided lol Where did you hear this? That would probably explain why Jaedong's is listed under YellOw's Kongdoo's Gamer Management: http://www.kongdoo.com/gamer-management/ | ||
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Mistakes
United States1102 Posts
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GenesisX
Canada4267 Posts
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dbssaber
United States193 Posts
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Spackofant
Germany28 Posts
 Storkuu i believe in you ! | ||
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Tanzklaue
Germany1413 Posts
On June 07 2014 08:04 ArvickHero wrote: i heard rumors that jaedong still plays BW the side and is ranked quite decently, like B rank on fish or so. I think this will be quite one-sided lol how good is that in sc2 terms? master in korea? | ||
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ZAiNs
United Kingdom6525 Posts
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DinoToss
Poland507 Posts
On June 07 2014 09:08 Spackofant wrote: No one trusts Stork to do well Storkuu i believe in you !Stork was ahead head to head vs Bisu (15-10) and Jaedong (14-13) he was lesser player just in finals, yeah boi. People with little faith.  | ||
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DaftFunk
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Hot_Bid
Braavos36375 Posts
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DinoToss
Poland507 Posts
On June 07 2014 09:30 DaftFunk wrote: this is in no way going to prove who is or was better. it should just be watched and enjoyed as entertainment. does not matter who wins I know it was just big misconception that Stork lost so many vs JD and Bisu because everyone remembered the finals he lost Yea he lost all 3 finals to Flash JD and Bisu (2 OSLs and 1 MSL). What a story.Of course no one gonna count this showmatch as anything serious for all i care they can play on Lost Temple and have fun. | ||
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VArsovskiSC
Macedonia563 Posts
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arb
Noobville17921 Posts
On June 07 2014 09:19 Tanzklaue wrote: how good is that in sc2 terms? master in korea? lol. if there was a league like 10 above grandmaster it would be somewhere around there im sure. | ||
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Caas
Sweden51 Posts
On June 07 2014 09:58 arb wrote: lol. if there was a league like 10 above grandmaster it would be somewhere around there im sure. lol. C- ranked players get to masters in sc2 | ||
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arb
Noobville17921 Posts
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GoShox
United States1837 Posts
Someone who plays on Fish and knows about it more would have a better answer but I think B on Fish is pretty much the equivalent of Grandmaster in SC2, going by how many people are able to achieve it. | ||
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DinoToss
Poland507 Posts
On June 07 2014 09:58 arb wrote: lol. if there was a league like 10 above grandmaster it would be somewhere around there im sure. SC2 for sure is not good measure for BW skill But thats not what he asked i guess.Korean Grandmaster is occupied by some of the people who were top BW progamers who were well above Fish -_- Its hard to be above them really. :> | ||
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arb
Noobville17921 Posts
On June 07 2014 10:02 GoShox wrote: That's not what he's asking -_- Someone who plays on Fish and knows about it more would have a better answer but I think B on Fish is pretty much the equivalent of Grandmaster in SC2, going by how many people are able to achieve it. From what I heard about fish D rank players on there are like C/C+ On Iccup, and you regularly well kinda see pro streamers losing games at D/C so that has to give some evidence for how high up they are | ||
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hypercube
Hungary2735 Posts
On June 07 2014 08:06 purakushi wrote: Hopefully it's more than one game, and they have casters who are at least somewhat familiar with BW. Ret please. | ||
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United States703 Posts
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N.geNuity
United States5112 Posts
he'll be sloppy since pvz needs so much finesse in good control for army engagements something that being away from the game for a while will really take out of a person. | ||
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GolemMadness
Canada11044 Posts
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amazingxkcd
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
On June 07 2014 10:36 GolemMadness wrote: If Stork played WoW when was a pro BW player, does that mean that he plays BW now that he's a pro Starcraft 2 player? he probably plays league now | ||
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Darkhorse
United States23455 Posts
On June 07 2014 08:06 purakushi wrote: Hopefully it's more than one game, and they have casters who are at least somewhat familiar with BW. I'm sure they do. Incontrol is there and he used to be a big BW guy, and honestly most SC2 players have a pretty strong BW background even if they weren't pro players | ||
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GolemMadness
Canada11044 Posts
On June 07 2014 08:06 purakushi wrote: Hopefully it's more than one game, and they have casters who are at least somewhat familiar with BW. Bring back the Apollo WCG BW casting. | ||
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Titusmaster6
United States5937 Posts
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FoShao
United States256 Posts
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BigFan
TLADT24920 Posts
Regardless, should be interesting | ||
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Russian Federation3209 Posts
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skzlime
Hungary462 Posts
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SynC[gm]
United States3127 Posts
On June 07 2014 11:02 Darkhorse wrote: I'm sure they do. Incontrol is there and he used to be a big BW guy, and honestly most SC2 players have a pretty strong BW background even if they weren't pro players I don't mean to be rude to Nathanias, but when he was casting the fOrGG vs Jaedong showmatch, he called a relatively normal 3rd as a hidden expansion. So to say SC2 players have a strong BW background isn't necessarily true. But again, respect to Nathanias, I think he's fun to watch for WCS. Here's to hoping that Apollo, iNcontrol, and White-ra are there to cast. | ||
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arb
Noobville17921 Posts
On June 07 2014 12:15 SynC[gm] wrote: I don't mean to be rude to Nathanias, but when he was casting the fOrGG vs Jaedong showmatch, he called a relatively normal 3rd as a hidden expansion. So to say SC2 players have a strong BW background isn't necessarily true. But again, respect to Nathanias, I think he's fun to watch for WCS. Here's to hoping that Apollo, iNcontrol, and White-ra are there to cast. Yeah the hidden expansion thing turned me off to the casters, they were instant mute after that. I'd love to see some Tasteless/Day9 or something though | ||
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HyralGambit
2439 Posts
On June 07 2014 12:15 SynC[gm] wrote: I don't mean to be rude to Nathanias, but when he was casting the fOrGG vs Jaedong showmatch, he called a relatively normal 3rd as a hidden expansion. So to say SC2 players have a strong BW background isn't necessarily true. But again, respect to Nathanias, I think he's fun to watch for WCS. Here's to hoping that Apollo, iNcontrol, and White-ra are there to cast. I agree that Nathanias was pretty clueless at the time of the JD ForGG match, but ever since Nathanias tuned in to the SSL9 finals (he was in the Twitch chat during Sayle's cast), I got the impression that he at least developed some interest in Brood War and looked more into it. I certainly wouldn't count him out if he gets his knowledge base higher. | ||
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Deleted User 268575
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On June 07 2014 10:04 arb wrote: From what I heard about fish D rank players on there are like C/C+ On Iccup, and you regularly well kinda see pro streamers losing games at D/C so that has to give some evidence for how high up they are I'm a solid C on iCCup and am around 800-900 on Fish which is F. Trutacz and Scan are C level on Fish and A+ on iCCup I believe. | ||
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LuMiX
China5757 Posts
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Sero
United States692 Posts
On June 07 2014 12:30 Jemah wrote: I'm a solid C on iCCup and am around 800-900 on Fish which is F. Trutacz and Scan are C level on Fish and A+ on iCCup I believe. Yeah, low D on Fish (1700) is more like B/B+ on iCCup, not C/C+. | ||
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nekotrap
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HyralGambit
2439 Posts
On June 07 2014 14:52 nekotrap wrote: So awesome to get to see Jaedong playing some more BW again. This will also show proof of whether he's been playing on fish or not ever since the ForGG match. This feels like back when people were trying to figure out whether or not Bisu was playing on Fish before he finally revealed himself and started owning everyone. Let's all hope for the best! | ||
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Jragon
Australia1471 Posts
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derElbe
Germany571 Posts
if this was bisu vs jaedong i would have come to krefeld now | ||
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Nathanias
United States290 Posts
On June 07 2014 12:29 HyralGambit wrote: I agree that Nathanias was pretty clueless at the time of the JD ForGG match, but ever since Nathanias tuned in to the SSL9 finals (he was in the Twitch chat during Sayle's cast), I got the impression that he at least developed some interest in Brood War and looked more into it. I certainly wouldn't count him out if he gets his knowledge base higher. To be totally transparent, if you were watching live I made sure to say several times I never followed pro BW. I only cast the match because I was the main English stream for the whole SC2 event as well. I don't claim to have any understanding of pro BW even though I began playing in 2004 it was never melee games only customs. I couldn't tell you a single build order for any race of course I watch some bw stuff these days if it's on, but otherwise I didn't get into esports until sc2 and that's my primary focus | ||
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McRatyn
Poland901 Posts
On June 07 2014 15:12 Jragon wrote: Nice to see them keeping touch with their roots. Where can we watch this? It will happen on one of the HSC streams. Look for Home Story Cup in the On Air events | ||
Elyvilon
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HyralGambit
2439 Posts
On June 07 2014 15:24 Nathanias wrote: To be totally transparent, if you were watching live I made sure to say several times I never followed pro BW. I only cast the match because I was the main English stream for the whole SC2 event as well. I don't claim to have any understanding of pro BW even though I began playing in 2004 it was never melee games only customs. I couldn't tell you a single build order for any race of course I watch some bw stuff these days if it's on, but otherwise I didn't get into esports until sc2 and that's my primary focus Yeah, it doesn't help that the BW Terran players are not doing too well either these days. ex-STX SouLs Modesty is just killing Terrans left right and center with his godly 77% winrate in ZvT with his new Guardian/Devourer meta :p | ||
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McRatyn
Poland901 Posts
On June 07 2014 15:24 Nathanias wrote: To be totally transparent, if you were watching live I made sure to say several times I never followed pro BW. I only cast the match because I was the main English stream for the whole SC2 event as well. I don't claim to have any understanding of pro BW even though I began playing in 2004 it was never melee games only customs. I couldn't tell you a single build order for any race of course I watch some bw stuff these days if it's on, but otherwise I didn't get into esports until sc2 and that's my primary focus Nothing to fret about. The cast was pretty entertaining, and its 100 times better that 12,5 minutes of radio silence, especially since the game was so-so. Thanks and looking forward to more such coincidences | ||
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illusiongamer
Mexico377 Posts
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JohnChoi
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On June 07 2014 15:24 Nathanias wrote: To be totally transparent, if you were watching live I made sure to say several times I never followed pro BW. I only cast the match because I was the main English stream for the whole SC2 event as well. I don't claim to have any understanding of pro BW even though I began playing in 2004 it was never melee games only customs. I couldn't tell you a single build order for any race of course I watch some bw stuff these days if it's on, but otherwise I didn't get into esports until sc2 and that's my primary focus I'm just thankful there was a showmatch lol edit: also the casting/commentary was actually kinda funny "THE MARINES ARE DYING ITS INCREDIBLE" :D | ||
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goody153
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On June 07 2014 15:34 HyralGambit wrote: Yeah, it doesn't help that the BW Terran players are not doing too well either these days. ex-STX SouLs Modesty is just killing Terrans left right and center with his godly 77% winrate in ZvT with his new Guardian/Devourer meta :p Whoah do you have a sample of a game ? i don't follow BW nowadays but i would love to see it | ||
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TaShadan
Germany1973 Posts
On June 07 2014 08:12 Boonbag wrote: when was the match vs forgg then ? cuz in the yt he looks baaaadd I guess he was so frustrated about his "low" skill that he started training again :p Go STORK! | ||
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sM.Zik
Canada2547 Posts
Can confirm, was C- in iccup and got master in sc2. | ||
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HyralGambit
2439 Posts
On June 07 2014 16:22 goody153 wrote: Whoah do you have a sample of a game ? i don't follow BW nowadays but i would love to see it Here you go <3 Modesty vs ex-SKT sSak in SSL9 Ro32 Group C Winner's Match: Modesty vs ex-Woongjin PianO in Sonic Proleague (KT vs Woongjin): Modesty vs ex-CJ Mong in 41SL (which Modesty won) Ro8 Game 4: Modesty vs ex-CJ Mong in 2nd LoveTV SL Ro8 Game 1: | ||
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Boonbag
France3318 Posts
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L3gendary
Canada1470 Posts
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alexander670
Australia14 Posts
Is it just one match or what? | ||
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Germany2548 Posts
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Russian Federation3209 Posts
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KameZerg
Sweden1764 Posts
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SynC[gm]
United States3127 Posts
On June 07 2014 18:04 Monsen wrote: I only watched the first two of those vods, but I'm not sure if you can call it "new guardian/devourer meta" when the terrans in those games were already dead to muta stack micro. Yeah, you can say that for such a build to work, you need good Muta micro for it to be effective. It's just that usually, you don't see a Zerg commit to making Mutalisks the entire game to win and/or you see them transition into Lurkers and Hive tech to get Defilers with Dark Swarm. It's just him looking to end the game with effective harassment, forcing the Terrans to go bonkers while having to defend Mutalisks and making a significant amount of Turrets to capitalize with Guardians to end the game. | ||
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ArvickHero
10387 Posts
and Afreeca streamers talking about Jaedong are the source, so yea take what you will from it. Usually they're pretty good about what they say. | ||
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LRM)TechnicS
Bulgaria1565 Posts
where and when can we watch this live? | ||
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Boonbag
France3318 Posts
On June 07 2014 19:04 ArvickHero wrote: modesty is a god at muta/ling micro, people seem to underestimate him just because he wasn't a big name in his progamer days. Proootoooosssssssssssss :~( | ||
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Boonbag
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REDBLUEGREEN
Germany1903 Posts
I hope VODs will be up when I get home wasted =D On June 07 2014 09:19 Tanzklaue wrote: how good is that in sc2 terms? master in korea? If the fish ranking system is still the same as a few months ago, there are 60 people with B rank or better right now. So I guess it would be top 60 KR grandmaster in sc2 terms. | ||
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PVJ
Hungary5221 Posts
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goody153
44125 Posts
On June 07 2014 16:31 HyralGambit wrote: Here you go <3 Modesty vs ex-SKT sSak in SSL9 Ro32 Group C Winner's Match: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8E9-hPLDD_E Modesty vs ex-Woongjin PianO in Sonic Proleague (KT vs Woongjin): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0hUCXCh8Yk Modesty vs ex-CJ Mong in 41SL (which Modesty won) Ro8 Game 4: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybeLu4n9CwU Modesty vs ex-CJ Mong in 2nd LoveTV SL Ro8 Game 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sxeh0c5Z4Xo Wow that is a lot .. thanks much <3 | ||
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JohnChoi
1773 Posts
On June 07 2014 19:49 REDBLUEGREEN wrote: Damn I will be at an open air festival today. I hope VODs will be up when I get home wasted =D If the fish ranking system is still the same as a few months ago, there are 60 people with B rank or better right now. So I guess it would be top 60 KR grandmaster in sc2 terms. looking at fish ranks now, ranks 60~16 are B 15~5 are A and 4~1 is S :o so you were right on the money on 60 lol | ||
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iFU.pauline
France1566 Posts
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McRatyn
Poland901 Posts
On June 07 2014 15:27 McRatyn wrote: It will happen on one of the HSC streams. Look for Home Story Cup in the On Air events Additional info: between 7-9 PM if I remember correctly, VODs probably at the twitch channel or YouTube not sure about that one. | ||
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SynC[gm]
United States3127 Posts
On June 07 2014 20:45 iFU.pauline wrote: My question is who is gonna stream it? and where can i see the vod without being spoiled since i won't be online by 9pm -_- http://twitch.tv/taketv As for VOD, I have no clue. | ||
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kuriz
Denmark141 Posts
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iFU.pauline
France1566 Posts
thanks, it should be automatically recorded on twitch | ||
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McRatyn
Poland901 Posts
The match will happen at the very end of today's part of HSC. With the last group planned to start at 8 PM that probably means the showmatch no earlier than 10 PM CET Source: Take on stream | ||
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Iplaythings
Denmark9110 Posts
On June 07 2014 09:19 Tanzklaue wrote: how good is that in sc2 terms? master in korea? The closest comparison is top 50 grand master korean server People who're descent in ICCup (C ish) is equivalent to a D ranked fish player (if not an F ranked one, I haven't laddered at all on fish so I might very well be wrong). edit: read thread. | ||
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vOdToasT
Sweden2870 Posts
On June 07 2014 12:39 Metal[x] wrote: that game w/ forgg was horrible...dear lord i hope stork is better than that.. It was so bad that if I didn't know who they were, I would have assumed they were some bad foreigners. In fact, apart from name value, games between high level foreigners are better and more entertaining than fOrGG vs Jaedong was. But what did people expect? They play SC2 for a living. It's not like they have the time to practice BW. | ||
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_Animus_
Bulgaria1064 Posts
On June 07 2014 21:36 vOdToasT wrote: But what did people expect? They play SC2 for a living. It's not like they have the time to practice BW. Then its better to stick only to sc2, instead of making bw looks ugly and silly. JD vs forgg was complete failure, so bad that i didnt want to watch it and i skipped to the end to see who wins. I think people who organise this should be ashamed as well as the players if they play so bad. Its like group of big names former musicians who didnt touched their instruments in years and they come up on big stage in front of crowd exepting some good show. But instead all they get is just bad performance with bunch of false notes, unsynched rhytm and vocalist who cant remember his own lyrics, it could be really a show, but very pathetic since people on the stage was used to be glorious back in the day. | ||
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puppykiller
United States3128 Posts
On June 07 2014 21:29 Iplaythings wrote: The closest comparison is top 50 grand master korean server People who're descent in ICCup (C ish) is equivalent to a D ranked fish player (if not an F ranked one, I haven't laddered at all on fish so I might very well be wrong). edit: read thread. I think C+ iccup is about E fish. | ||
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EvilChuck
Germany71 Posts
On June 07 2014 22:13 _Animus_ wrote: Then its better to stick only to sc2, instead of making bw looks ugly and silly. JD vs forgg was complete failure, so bad that i didnt want to watch it and i skipped to the end to see who wins. I think people who organise this should be ashamed as well as the players if they play so bad. Its like group of big names former musicians who didnt touched their instruments in years and they come up on big stage in front of crowd exepting some good show. But instead all they get is just bad performance with bunch of false notes, unsynched rhytm and vocalist who cant remember his own lyrics, it could be really a show, but very pathetic since people on the stage was used to be glorious back in the day. You know, there is something called fun. Even if it isn't the highest of all play it is still fun to watch them play. Your comparison is really bad since a good show in BW doesn't have to be 100% perfect games. | ||
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sorrowptoss
Canada1431 Posts
On June 07 2014 22:13 _Animus_ wrote: Then its better to stick only to sc2, instead of making bw looks ugly and silly. JD vs forgg was complete failure, so bad that i didnt want to watch it and i skipped to the end to see who wins. I think people who organise this should be ashamed as well as the players if they play so bad. Its like group of big names former musicians who didnt touched their instruments in years and they come up on big stage in front of crowd exepting some good show. But instead all they get is just bad performance with bunch of false notes, unsynched rhytm and vocalist who cant remember his own lyrics, it could be really a show, but very pathetic since people on the stage was used to be glorious back in the day. Who cares? It's entertaining! | ||
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castleeMg
Canada761 Posts
On June 07 2014 10:04 arb wrote: From what I heard about fish D rank players on there are like C/C+ On Iccup, and you regularly well kinda see pro streamers losing games at D/C so that has to give some evidence for how high up they are if you're D rank on fish, you're B+ or higher on iccup... if you can maintain like like 30-40 record with 700ish points at F rank on fish ur like C+ iccup.... | ||
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ne4aJIb
Russian Federation3209 Posts
well, it depends, LancerX is B+ and he is F on fish ;D | ||
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TaShadan
Germany1973 Posts
On June 07 2014 22:39 EvilChuck wrote: You know, there is something called fun. Even if it isn't the highest of all play it is still fun to watch them play. Your comparison is really bad since a good show in BW doesn't have to be 100% perfect games. No offense but JD vs forgg was not fun to watch at all. Forgg just failed badly and JD was only mediocre. | ||
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WGT-Baal
France3373 Posts
not sure if serious or troll... I d love to hear Ret commenting a BW match actually | ||
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skzlime
Hungary462 Posts
On June 07 2014 20:36 JohnChoi wrote: looking at fish ranks now, ranks 60~16 are B 15~5 are A and 4~1 is S :o so you were right on the money on 60 lol keep in mind some people have multiple accounts. example: current #5 [neox]carp and #6 terran are both hiya, #2 [neox]hong9 and #10 electricity both larva, #9 taekdol and #15 na1st both bisu etc, so it's even fewer people. | ||
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UmberBane
Germany5450 Posts
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purakushi
United States3300 Posts
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/sc2-tournaments/452056-hsc-ix-day-3 <crosses fingers> | ||
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McRatyn
Poland901 Posts
On June 07 2014 23:23 UmberBane wrote: Just curious, will there be a Korean restream of this match? I'd be very interested in the viewership, although it's probably a really bad timezone for them. Cella does Korean commentary on HSC so maybe he'll also cast the showmatch | ||
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EvilChuck
Germany71 Posts
On June 07 2014 23:01 TaShadan wrote: No offense but JD vs forgg was not fun to watch at all. Forgg just failed badly and JD was only mediocre. Ya, it was a shame Forgg failed really bad and the game was so short but I wouldn't call it a shame to the players or a fail by the organizers since it's just for fun. | ||
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figq
12519 Posts
On June 07 2014 21:08 McRatyn wrote: Great, thank you for telling! Will be able to catch it for sure then! :DUpdate: The match will happen at the very end of today's part of HSC. With the last group planned to start at 8 PM that probably means the showmatch no earlier than 10 PM CET Source: Take on stream Also, this should be updated in the op. Heck, there should be like a blue bar message on top of all Liquid sites about this, if you ask me ;-) | ||
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HyralGambit
2439 Posts
On June 08 2014 00:45 figq wrote: Great, thank you for telling! Will be able to catch it for sure then! :D Also, this should be updated in the op. Heck, there should be like a blue bar message on top of all Liquid sites about this, if you ask me ;-) Updated the OP. If anyone want to make a blue bar message, I'll post that in the OP too. | ||
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pebble444
Italy2497 Posts
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Boonbag
France3318 Posts
lost to foreign zerg | ||
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On June 07 2014 08:04 ArvickHero wrote: i heard rumors that jaedong still plays BW the side and is ranked quite decently, like B rank on fish or so. I think this will be quite one-sided lol there was quite a high ranked player (1470) on fish before the system change, telling me the same. | ||
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On June 08 2014 04:01 L_Master wrote: Roughly 1 hour till showtime? Exactly. Your post is from 4:01 and showmatch is supposed to be happen at 5:00. | ||
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On June 08 2014 04:03 greenelve wrote: Exactly. Your post is from 4:01 and showmatch is supposed to be happen at 5:00. Please note that the time was estimated by me (reasonably well, check my post), especially since the HSC thread gives 11 PM CET (6 PM KST) as the starting hour. | ||
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On June 08 2014 04:54 SynC[gm] wrote: Apparently Stork has been drinking some alcoholic beverages... TaKe was like, "hopefully" we get to see the showmatch between Jaedong vs Stork. Is Stork serious? This might be JD vs ForGG all over again... | ||
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On June 08 2014 04:09 McRatyn wrote: Please note that the time was estimated by me (reasonably well, check my post), especially since the HSC thread gives 11 PM CET (6 PM KST) as the starting hour. That's not an official time btw, I estimated it too. It will probably a bit later cause there are still 3 matches to be played in Jaedong's group | ||
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On June 08 2014 04:57 HyralGambit wrote: Is Stork serious? This might be JD vs ForGG all over again... You'd drink too if you were knocked out of a tournament full of people hanging out drinking when they get knocked out. I imagine this is something like a vacation for a lot of Korean pros. | ||
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On June 08 2014 05:03 Duckman wrote: You'd drink too if you were knocked out of a tournament full of people hanging out drinking when they get knocked out. I imagine this is something like a vacation for a lot of Korean pros. I'm sorry to disappoint you, but I don't drink | ||
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On June 07 2014 23:12 skzlime wrote: keep in mind some people have multiple accounts. example: current #5 [neox]carp and #6 terran are both hiya, #2 [neox]hong9 and #10 electricity both larva, #9 taekdol and #15 na1st both bisu etc, so it's even fewer people. oo good point! | ||
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Which is probably either true for SC2 GM, so the comparisons even out | ||
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On June 08 2014 04:54 SynC[gm] wrote: Apparently Stork has been drinking some alcoholic beverages... TaKe was like, "hopefully" we get to see the showmatch between Jaedong vs Stork. so does this mean the showmatch might not happen? or are they saying stork cant really handle his alcohol? | ||
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On June 08 2014 05:06 HyralGambit wrote: I'm sorry to disappoint you, but I don't drink If you played at HSC, you would learn. | ||
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On June 08 2014 05:11 JohnChoi wrote: so does this mean the showmatch might not happen? or are they saying stork cant really handle his alcohol? TaKe talked about it like he was sure the match would happen, he just mentioned the few bottles that Stork was drinking. | ||
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On June 08 2014 05:11 JohnChoi wrote: so does this mean the showmatch might not happen? or are they saying stork cant really handle his alcohol? I think scheduling will be a problem. Traditionally this tournament doesn't run exactly on time and there are a lot of matches to get through still; not to mention JD is still playing in Ro16 so it won't be for a while at least. | ||
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On June 08 2014 05:14 SynC[gm] wrote: TaKe talked about it like he was sure the match would happen, he just mentioned the few bottles that Stork was drinking. oh kk! | ||
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On June 08 2014 05:28 Jemah wrote: They said after the SC2 games the showmatch can possibly happen, I think it will if Stork isn't too drunk. It definitely will if Stork is too drunk. | ||
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On June 08 2014 06:25 vinsang1000 wrote: I feel it's going to be too late Its already too late for me, so im going to bed. Good night and hopefully a good match! | ||
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It was shown at the moving bar on stream. Two bo3s remaining | ||
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On June 08 2014 06:33 JohnChoi wrote: thx for updates! Wanted to joke about being the spy behind enemy lines... But I just like both games, and the casting is funny so I watch HSC | ||
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Please tweet about this match using #HSC, if you have twitter, to support the event and spread the news about the showmatch. | ||
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On June 08 2014 07:08 GoShox wrote: Sounds like it's just gonna be one game Where did you hear this? I hope it is a Bo3 like the LR suggests. Though, it is going to be pretty late by the time the BW showmatch starts. | ||
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On June 08 2014 07:16 Xeofreestyler wrote: Oh this is happening soon? should be after the hasuobs vs mc series which ends the ro16 for the main tournament | ||
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On June 08 2014 06:55 IcookTacos wrote: I hope we can get some BW experts to cast it and help bridge between the SC2 audience and BW. I would love to get some of that juicy BW insight only the old pros know about. It's funny how much trivial and hidden stuff there is within competitive BW, like you can't even Google how to vulture micro. I found it pretty easy to google. http://lmgtfy.com/?q=starcraft vulture micro | ||
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On June 08 2014 07:16 purakushi wrote: Where did you hear this? I hope it is a Bo3 like the LR suggests. Though, it is going to be pretty late by the time the BW showmatch starts. Incontrol said so on stream. | ||
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Ah Maybe Jaedong and Stork get reenergised playing their first game and decide to play more >< I hope it lasts longer than Jaedong vs ForGG. | ||
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On June 08 2014 07:37 purakushi wrote: Ah Maybe Jaedong and Stork get reenergised playing their first game and decide to play more >< I hope it lasts longer than Jaedong vs ForGG. I don't think they're in a position to decide things, and frankly, while it would be cool, I can understand if they made it a one game affair. It's almost 1 o'clock and we don't know when this Bo3's gonna end, with all the people partying already even JD and Stork might not be burning with BW passion, let alone people supposed to cast this. | ||
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Though, I would prefer some awesome Korean casting >< | ||
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Of the super delayed show-match ._. | ||
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On June 08 2014 08:00 2Pacalypse- wrote: lol even Incontrol doesn't know Zerg builds anymore... and he was a Zerg Should attach the stream to the event on the side | ||
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On June 08 2014 08:03 NovemberstOrm wrote: Should attach the stream to the event on the side It's already under the HSC event. also, first game went as good as expected i guess | ||
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On June 08 2014 08:07 rauk wrote: what were the openings? looked sorta like early pool vs 1gate tech but i only saw the last 2 minutes it was a overpool vs 1 gate tech | ||
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On June 08 2014 08:09 2Pacalypse- wrote: wow, stork actually remembers how to wall on Destination Nah that's a really rough wall lol | ||
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On June 08 2014 08:09 2Pacalypse- wrote: wow, stork actually remembers how to wall on Destination he probably never stopped playing. I mean they got into progaming because they loved the game. Also from this it reminds me why I like whitera, he's the only one who seems to remember what's going on. Although incontrol is funny still I'll admit :p | ||
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On June 08 2014 08:15 Garrl wrote: STORK PLEASE STOP LOSING SAIRS That was pretty rough | ||
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GO JAEDONG!!!!!!!!!!! | ||
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ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS LOOK AT THE MINIMAP, SAME AS IN SC2 | ||
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On June 08 2014 08:12 rauk wrote: lol is jd doing a fake bust? kinda wish there were the tech tabs like in sc2, you'd think that someone would've wrote a spectator program in the last 15 years It's better with good observers not being able to see anything. It makes it more tense. | ||
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And JD's smile is just finishing it. | ||
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you'd think that someone would've wrote a spectator program in the last 15 years there is software, theyre just not using it. | ||
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On June 08 2014 08:23 Qikz wrote: It's better with good observers not being able to see anything. It makes it more tense. yea but at the same time you just want to know if jd's getting speed and range or just one lol | ||
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On June 08 2014 08:24 rauk wrote: yea but at the same time you just want to know if jd's getting speed and range or just one lol You can tell that by the timings/the build leading up to it. It's just incontrol isn't good at obsing SC1 since he hasn't played it in years. | ||
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PUSAN #1 | ||
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On June 08 2014 08:24 rauk wrote: yea but at the same time you just want to know if jd's getting speed and range or just one lol Nope, not at all. | ||
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On June 08 2014 08:26 Qikz wrote: You can tell that by the timings/the build leading up to it. It's just incontrol isn't good at obsing SC1 since he hasn't played it in years. i thought they were just talking in game 1 because they weren't moving the camera at all lol. | ||
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On June 08 2014 08:24 rauk wrote: yea but at the same time you just want to know if jd's getting speed and range or just one lol The better program is the unit/ resource count. Tech research... I don't like that info. The caster prediction/ mystery of it works well in a casted game. | ||
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On June 08 2014 08:26 Qikz wrote: You can tell that by the timings/the build leading up to it. It's just incontrol isn't good at obsing SC1 since he hasn't played it in years. jd went 3hat into hydra den, that can be either real bust or fake bust into 5 hatch, didn't know which, though it turned out to be 4hat lurker. i'm not sure if he meant to fake bust but stork didn't bite and build extra cannons anyways. imo he should have just powered hydras off the 3hatch to make it a real bust | ||
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On June 08 2014 08:33 2Pacalypse- wrote: jaedong only made like 4-5 mutas and missed his ee-han-timing Exactly what I was thinking haha | ||
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Stork Can someone make an entry for this on Liquipedia? | ||
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On June 08 2014 08:45 CDRdude wrote: God, I missed this sort of thing. I should watch more BW. You did not miss anything. Worst games ever. Looked like c- vs d+. I mean i suck in bw too but i expected more from former pros. Better watch this: On June 08 2014 08:45 Garrl wrote: gg. If anyone coming from sc2 to this thread and wants to see a truly amazing zvp, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ijf6RysNq9I | ||
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Not good, but at least not painful to watch But by the gods, that observer | ||
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On June 08 2014 08:46 TaShadan wrote: You did not miss anything. Worst games ever. Looked like c- vs d+. I mean i suck in bw too but i expected more from former pros. Dude, please, get the hell out of here, hater... It was not that bad, they played really good! They didn't play BW for ages and they did totally awesome! | ||
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On June 08 2014 08:46 TaShadan wrote: You did not miss anything. Worst games ever. Looked like c- vs d+. I mean i suck in bw too but i expected more from former pros. The point is that Jaedong and Stork played BW. If you want to watch great BW games, watch VoDs or active BW ex-pros. Great showmatch! <3 | ||
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On June 08 2014 08:48 Magreidis wrote: Dude, please, get the hell out of here, hater... It was not that bad, they played really good! They didn't play BW for ages and they did totally awesome! Get the hell out of the bw forum sc2 guy? | ||
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On June 08 2014 08:45 Garrl wrote: gg. If anyone coming from sc2 to this thread and wants to see a truly amazing zvp, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ijf6RysNq9I Man JD was exhausted by the end of that | ||
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On June 08 2014 08:50 murphs wrote: Lots of fun, nearly 30k SC2 fans got to see that. I'm sure many were impressed. many are actually impressed in the thread. They are so surprised with the archon and cracklings specifically lol | ||
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On June 08 2014 08:46 TaShadan wrote: You did not miss anything. Worst games ever. Looked like c- vs d+. I mean i suck in bw too but i expected more from former pros. You must suck really really hard if you think this was c- vs d+ | ||
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lol this is how bw treats their legends ? man if boxer would play 1 single game of sc2 everybody would love it no matter how bad he is . | ||
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On June 08 2014 08:46 TaShadan wrote: You did not miss anything. Worst games ever. Looked like c- vs d+. I mean i suck in bw too but i expected more from former pros. Better watch this: Lol noob you should play the game. | ||
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On June 08 2014 08:53 marcesr wrote: You must suck really really hard if you think this was c- vs d+ I did not play for 4 years but i most likely still crush you. I am not that good though. On June 08 2014 08:54 EvilChuck wrote: They would probably still destroy most of the foreigners with a little bit of training... Yes i agree. Unfortunately they do not train anymore. | ||
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SONG BYUNG GOO FIGHTING! | ||
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On June 08 2014 08:53 xsnac wrote: lol this is how bw treats their legends ? man if boxer would play 1 single game of sc2 everybody would love it no matter how bad he is . plz dont generalize us based on how some of the vocal minorities present themselves I for one enjoyed the games greatly and i enjoyed boxer playing bw on afreeca and im super hyped for stars party with all the old skool players! theres lots of places to watch the highest level bw in 2014 and i watched this showmatch knowing skill level wouldnt be the highest but it would still be very entertaining | ||
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I played that game for years. What did you do? | ||
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On June 08 2014 08:55 JohnChoi wrote: plz dont generalize us based on how some of the vocal minorities present themselves I for one enjoyed the games greatly and i enjoyed boxer playing bw on afreeca and im super hyped for stars party with all the old skool players! theres lots of places to watch the highest level bw in 2014 and i watched this showmatch knowing skill level wouldnt be the highest but it would still be very entertaining Seeing Stork laughing like a child is worth even if he played Mario. | ||
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STORK! | ||
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On June 08 2014 08:57 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote: Seeing Stork laughing like a child is worth even if he played Mario. it really looked like they enjoyed themselves and that makes me pretty happy lol | ||
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On June 08 2014 08:58 JohnChoi wrote: it really looked like they enjoyed themselves and that makes me pretty happy lol Someday we will get Bisu. ;_; Ye, it tends to happen when you get back your favourite toy. :D Hope, Jaedong wins whole thing tomorrow, he wasn't laughing as much as Stork was. | ||
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On June 08 2014 09:00 Maxhster wrote: well im a sc2 guy, and i did enjoy that game I'm glad you did. It was fun reading the twitch chat go a mile a minute over early game bw micro (even if it was pretty rusty.) | ||
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Of course it was not the level of play in their prime, but seriously, if you expect that from a match that was spontaneously scheduled, none of the players had a chance to practice (get some muscle-memory back etc), at 1am in the night after a long tournament day, after drinking some beers... then the problem lies with your expectations, not the players. Props to the TO for asking Stork and JD and of course to both players for agreeing to this despite risking being ridiculed for their "bad BW-skillz *lulz* " damn, this funmatch really makes me digging up some old bw-vods again, as well | ||
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WOW they're so enjoying broodwar even tho it's at 2am after a 14hours tour and before it's about 25k$ in 12hours again so it's cool to still do showmatches and they were nice games for playing it after ages, it entertained 30k viewer so don't fucken complain (plz no ban^^) also work out much o.o JD and Stork both look so hawt ^^ | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + pretty much no way for JD to be practicing secretly on fish, let alone being B it seems to me. stork won convincingly all 3 games. he just decided to get way too greedy after getting a ridiculous advantage in the beginning in game 1. JD somewhat significantly sloppy in late games. i really enjoyed how Jaedong tried to go for bulgarian zvp in game 2 though such biceps much amaze brood wow | ||
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On June 08 2014 10:19 Highways wrote: Vods?? http://www.twitch.tv/taketv/b/536234505 starts about 12:20:00 | ||
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HyralGambit
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On June 08 2014 10:16 LightAngels wrote: Is there any vods for this? Added VOD in OP. | ||
Peeano
Netherlands4992 Posts
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L_Master
United States8017 Posts
On June 08 2014 08:46 TaShadan wrote: You did not miss anything. Worst games ever. Looked like c- vs d+. I mean i suck in bw too but i expected more from former pros. I know you have played, but comments like these make me want to go "have you ever played BW". Maybe you meant it as hyperbole but that's a bit silly too. They were rusty yes, and sloppy. It was still miles better play than C- level. Even foreigners who come back from not playing for several years are insta yellow ranks, and these are JD and Stork two of the best players of their respective race. Play was easily green ranks or better, with some moments of sloppy micro. | ||
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Axxis
United States133 Posts
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ShadeR
Australia7535 Posts
also this On June 08 2014 08:27 Falling wrote: The better program is the unit/ resource count. Tech research... I don't like that info. The caster prediction/ mystery of it works well in a casted game. | ||
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PVJ
Hungary5221 Posts
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BigFan
TLADT24920 Posts
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JohnChoi
1773 Posts
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HyralGambit
2439 Posts
On June 08 2014 12:22 JohnChoi wrote: the games were awesome :D Better than I expected; worse than I hoped | ||
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SagaZ
France3460 Posts
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Dirtyharry
Germany171 Posts
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TT1
Canada10009 Posts
STORK | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States44337 Posts
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BigFan
TLADT24920 Posts
On June 08 2014 12:22 JohnChoi wrote: the games were awesome :D cool. Sounds like it's a good idea to check them out then lol | ||
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Boonbag
France3318 Posts
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FiWiFaKi
Canada9859 Posts
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HyralGambit
2439 Posts
On June 08 2014 15:30 Boonbag wrote: so, when are they coming afreeca When JD's contract with EG run out and whether or not Samsung succeed in KesPA's proleague, I guess. | ||
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eviltomahawk
United States11135 Posts
On June 08 2014 15:36 HyralGambit wrote: When JD's contract with EG run out and whether or not Samsung succeed in KesPA's proleague, I guess. At this rate, EG is gonna keep throwing money at JD for a long time to come unless JD wants out due to slumping or military or contractual disputes or loss of passion. But the day will come, just not soon. | ||
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FFW_Rude
France10201 Posts
Game 3 was good. I would have really want to see reavers and mutas to show my wife why i still love this game. Those smiles were priceless. Haters gonna hate, it wasn't as epic as in the past but in a sense it still was. Really happy they accepted it. I was worried they wouldn't accept because they knew they couldn't be "good games for fans". But really. I can't emphathyze how i'm happy to see them playing BW again. Finding VODs of our legends that are watchable for a non initiate is so hard (I know we stil watch the blurry vids in 144p but you can't show that to someone that have never watch BW). | ||
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LemOn
United Kingdom8629 Posts
Still this game reminded me why I quit watching SC2 and moved to dota2 - BW is such a better game to watch. I actually had a dream last night after watching the game, I was playing protoss again, on destination, vs zerg. The sense of despair when I couldn't handle my macro during a fight and had 4k left and had to queue zealots and build 10 gateways I swiftly realized it was a nightmare. Somehow I ended having a small army of army of carriers, battlecruisers (dunno how I made em as protoss xD) goons and a couple templars, and he was mining from just one base, but I spent all my minerals and just had 150 left, not enough for a nexus and for some reason I couldn't just distance mine with probes in my dream. Then I woke up. If I crushed the zerg with my last army we will never know, but it only confirms that BW was so good the VODs continue into your dreams. | ||
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Monsen
Germany2548 Posts
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EvilChuck
Germany71 Posts
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Caladan
Germany1238 Posts
Considering the circumstances, they did great. Would have loved to see more late game action, but it still was so much fun. Concerning gameplay for me still bw > sc2. | ||
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Boonbag
France3318 Posts
On June 08 2014 17:52 Monsen wrote: Ridiculous how high their skill level still is after all those years. hmm not really bisu was much, much more impressive upon coming back but that's not comparable the games were awful, very low level | ||
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NotSorry
United States6722 Posts
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nepeta
1872 Posts
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Foxxan
Sweden3427 Posts
I missed game 1, saw 50% of game 2, saw game 3 I enjoyed it. | ||
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Boonbag
France3318 Posts
On June 08 2014 18:28 nepeta wrote: That was so bad. Stork playing stargate and botching his only shuttle venture, jd losing mutas to archons and overlooking a ramp into his nat in game 3... maybe the setup wasnt optimal idk how they ran the games because even with their own gear (actually especially because of their own gear), if its setup everything for sc2, then Bw is going to be very very hard to play / control, because dpi / refresh rate / laucnher (if they used it) window resizing). even if they used no launcher, the mouses they use would still fuck it up with sc2 settings i think and since koreans are very bad at computers and setting up their own stuff, and that i'm not sure either anyone of the staff there, knew about how to run bw smooth, maybe the games were difficult to play given the circumstances | ||
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Creager
Germany1895 Posts
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McRatyn
Poland901 Posts
On June 08 2014 18:23 Boonbag wrote: hmm not really bisu was much, much more impressive upon coming back but that's not comparable the games were awful, very low level 1) You don't now how much time passed since Bisu went back to playing BW to actually streaming it live. 2) I used to get very disappointed with all the negative posts, but now I just think it's the issue of very overgrown expectations. | ||
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batsnacks
United States4466 Posts
On June 08 2014 18:23 Boonbag wrote: hmm not really bisu was much, much more impressive upon coming back but that's not comparable the games were awful, very low level I beat bisu when he first came back with normal hydras bust. | ||
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Boonbag
France3318 Posts
On June 08 2014 18:44 McRatyn wrote: 1) You don't now how much time passed since Bisu went back to playing BW to actually streaming it live. 2) I used to get very disappointed with all the negative posts, but now I just think it's the issue of very overgrown expectations. the negativity you see is your eyes "but that's not comparable" ? read please | ||
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Boonbag
France3318 Posts
On June 08 2014 18:46 batsnacks wrote: I beat bisu when he first came back with normal hydras bust. bisu zerged up the ladder to rank 1# as a come back training x_x | ||
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Monsen
Germany2548 Posts
excellent results. Find the difference. | ||
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McRatyn
Poland901 Posts
On June 08 2014 18:47 Boonbag wrote: the negativity you see is your eyes "but that's not comparable" ? read please Oh I did, saying that their games were "awful, very low level", about a showmatch by two guys playing for fun after years of not touching the game is just that: a negative opinion for negativity's sake based upon unreasonable expectations. Edit: I apologise for especially quoting you and all, this pertakes to a couple of other posters too | ||
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Boonbag
France3318 Posts
On June 08 2014 18:55 McRatyn wrote: Oh I did, saying that their games were "awful, very low level", about a showmatch by two guys playing for fun after years of not touching the game is just that: a negative opinion for negativity's sake based upon unreasonable expectations. i was answering a post stating the exact opposite ? because of this very precise reason you just mentionned ? for god's sake | ||
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Boonbag
France3318 Posts
On June 08 2014 18:52 Monsen wrote: Bisu tried Sc2 for a few months, with disappointing results. Who knows if he ever even really "switched" (I doubt it, when he "retired" he said that he just didn't enjoy Sc2 at all). On the other hand Jaedong has been dedicated to Sc2 for years now with excellent results. Find the difference. few months ? two years | ||
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batsnacks
United States4466 Posts
On June 08 2014 18:48 Boonbag wrote: bisu zerged up the ladder to rank 1# as a come back training x_x na1st account was in the D/F channel on fish a while before he streamed | ||
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LRM)TechnicS
Bulgaria1565 Posts
On June 08 2014 17:43 LemOn wrote: Wow their game was so sloppy Still this game reminded me why I quit watching SC2 and moved to dota2 - BW is such a better game to watch. I actually had a dream last night after watching the game, I was playing protoss again, on destination, vs zerg. The sense of despair when I couldn't handle my macro during a fight and had 4k left and had to queue zealots and build 10 gateways I swiftly realized it was a nightmare. Somehow I ended having a small army of army of carriers, battlecruisers (dunno how I made em as protoss xD) goons and a couple templars, and he was mining from just one base, but I spent all my minerals and just had 150 left, not enough for a nexus and for some reason I couldn't just distance mine with probes in my dream. Then I woke up. If I crushed the zerg with my last army we will never know, but it only confirms that BW was so good the VODs continue into your dreams. rofl, that was a good read i remember having BW dreams too, perhaps the most weird of which being watching tanks being sieged in the corner of a football field | ||
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batsnacks
United States4466 Posts
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nukkuj
Finland403 Posts
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xM(Z
Romania5281 Posts
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_Animus_
Bulgaria1064 Posts
They seem to have pretty good time with BW. Nice games, its funny how many people thought Jaedong will own Stork. If you look at their games on the last few OSL's, Stork was the better player and had no hard time reading Jaedong's game and he have lead in their 1v1 games. I had only one concern for Stork not wining and it was if Jaedong really playing BW outside of SC2. | ||
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alexander670
Australia14 Posts
I unfortunately could not watch live, watching the rerun now and I am glad to see the players are having fun with it | ||
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McRatyn
Poland901 Posts
On June 08 2014 19:59 alexander670 wrote: Could someone tell me how many viewers this got live? I unfortunately could not watch live, watching the rerun now and I am glad to see the players are having fun with it ~30-35k | ||
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sabas123
Netherlands3122 Posts
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Boonbag
France3318 Posts
On June 08 2014 21:20 sabas123 wrote: storks level of play really suprised me. never doubt storku yo that's bm i'm pretty sure you make him play pvt carriers immaculate.... | ||
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StarStruck
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Boonbag
France3318 Posts
On June 08 2014 22:01 StarStruck wrote: those builds though.. >_< troll builds tho the fact of the matter we never ever seen neither of em playing any of the afreeca streamers or even them mentionning something about stork/jd playing on fish might be a good indicator that they really have 0 practice i think | ||
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Musicus
Germany23576 Posts
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iFU.pauline
France1566 Posts
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Boonbag
France3318 Posts
foreign force ftw | ||
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
On June 08 2014 22:25 iFU.pauline wrote: It wasn't so nice to watch even though they are still better than all of us combined. maybe with very little practice. what stork did first game really took me back. It's been a while since I've seen someone do that type of opening lol and the Hungarian sensation would have no problems with them atm. If you gave them a few weeks of practice though. Yeah, they could give a few people a run for their money. | ||
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Hagen0
Germany765 Posts
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Miragee
8509 Posts
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Ribbon
United States5278 Posts
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Vaftrudner
Sweden1185 Posts
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Miragee
8509 Posts
On June 09 2014 03:54 Vaftrudner wrote: The games weren't that good, but their smiles while playing... If that didn't make you happy, you have a heart of stone. Yep, those Stork smiles let me smile as well. | ||
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sM.Zik
Canada2547 Posts
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Zenbrez
Canada5973 Posts
On June 09 2014 03:40 Ribbon wrote: Jesus Christ, everyone's so negative. They were fun games, who cares if it was B on ICCUP level. And 35,000 people, most of whom never saw BW before, got some exposure to it. This was nothing but good for BW Seriously, bunch of arm-chair progamers. It's like they paid tickets to see an OSL finals then got this. It was literally just a fun show for the fans to watch, JD sac'd probably an hour or two of sleep he may have liked for his play today to put this on. | ||
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fuzzylogic44
Canada2633 Posts
On June 09 2014 03:40 Ribbon wrote: Jesus Christ, everyone's so negative. They were fun games, who cares if it was B on ICCUP level. And 35,000 people, most of whom never saw BW before, got some exposure to it. This was nothing but good for BW As someone who never watched BW I can tell you, that while I could tell they weren't high level games, just seeing the way the game plays out with constant action and smaller battles definitely comes across and is very cool. | ||
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miercat
394 Posts
On June 08 2014 18:07 EvilChuck wrote: That muta micro vs the archon in game 3 tho :D I cringed a little | ||
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CursOr
United States6335 Posts
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skzlime
Hungary462 Posts
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SynC[gm]
United States3127 Posts
Thanks for the gem, and happy birthday. | ||
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EvilChuck
Germany71 Posts
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Drake
Germany6146 Posts
would say it wasnt the case and damn i played THAT game for 12!!! years ? oh my god xD super fun games but you could clearly see they rly not play the game anymore ^^ (but curious bisu said he not like bw look after he played sc2 and then went back so well ^^ ) | ||
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JohnChoi
1773 Posts
On June 09 2014 08:40 Drake wrote: so all the stork will get crushed posts and jd still plays would say it wasnt the case and damn i played THAT game for 12!!! years ? oh my god xD super fun games but you could clearly see they rly not play the game anymore ^^ (but curious bisu said he not like bw look after he played sc2 and then went back so well ^^ ) he really said that?? | ||
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AsianEcksDragon
United States1036 Posts
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zanga
659 Posts
<3<3Also really fun to hear "the good old boys" speak about BW and commentate it etc! | ||
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arb
Noobville17921 Posts
On June 09 2014 09:46 AsianEcksDragon wrote: SC2 Protoss -> BW Protoss skills translate far better than SC2 Zerg -> BW Zerg. It's evident too when JD couldn't even rally properly The dual rally points is a luxury im sure. I wouldnt be surprised if that didnt mess him up lol. When i was making the transition that and auto mine both messed with me for quite a while >.> | ||
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iFU.pauline
France1566 Posts
Then next game he misses drop templar. You would think he would prepare juuuuuuuust a bit before broadcasting Jaedong vs Stork. | ||
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JohnChoi
1773 Posts
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viermalvier
Austria115 Posts
On June 08 2014 18:23 Boonbag wrote: hmm not really bisu was much, much more impressive upon coming back but that's not comparable the games were awful, very low level i dont think bisu was that better, he just started streaming after he was already #1 on fish ladder and before that he also had a good amount of games before you could see other streamer play vs him. | ||
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Drake
Germany6146 Posts
On June 09 2014 17:01 iFU.pauline wrote: That obs was really bad, i can't believe he missed a drop on destination, then he is like "sorry first time I obs bw" as if there is no minimap in sc2. Then next game he misses drop templar. You would think he would prepare juuuuuuuust a bit before broadcasting Jaedong vs Stork. you realise the obs was a drunken incontrol ? xD | ||
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Boonbag
France3318 Posts
On June 09 2014 18:36 viermalvier wrote: i dont think bisu was that better, he just started streaming after he was already #1 on fish ladder and before that he also had a good amount of games before you could see other streamer play vs him. god youre like the second person missing the "but that's not comparable" line in the bloody post | ||
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Kal_rA
United States2925 Posts
On June 09 2014 18:41 Drake wrote: you realise the obs was a drunken incontrol ? xD Haha its jd vs stork playing brood war. Idc how bad the obs is.. I'll take what I can get.. just make sure you yourself pay attention to the minimap | ||
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
On June 09 2014 10:39 zanga wrote: I know very little about broodwar esports and didn't watch it back then... but damn, that showmatch was so awesome to see <3<3Also really fun to hear "the good old boys" speak about BW and commentate it etc! huh, other than white-ra they really didn't say shit to be fair and even then white-ra. It was pretty vague. On June 09 2014 18:36 viermalvier wrote: i dont think bisu was that better, he just started streaming after he was already #1 on fish ladder and before that he also had a good amount of games before you could see other streamer play vs him. From what I saw it didn't take bisu long at all to regain some of his old form. | ||
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BisuDagger
Bisutopia19240 Posts
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Archers_bane
United States1338 Posts
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BigFan
TLADT24920 Posts
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FFW_Rude
France10201 Posts
On June 09 2014 17:01 iFU.pauline wrote: That obs was really bad, i can't believe he missed a drop on destination, then he is like "sorry first time I obs bw" as if there is no minimap in sc2. Then next game he misses drop templar. You would think he would prepare juuuuuuuust a bit before broadcasting Jaedong vs Stork. You know that they were all hammered ? It's HSC. Apparently Stork was quite drunk too. Stork was eliminated from the SC2 tournament but not JD so it's nice that he took an hour of his sleep for this showmatchAnd the obs were... well they obs like that in SC2 too when they are drunk HSC is a really good tournament to watch even if you don't like SC2. Because downtimes are really funny. It's like there is games interupting the downtime Anyway as i said earlier. That showmatch was really nice to see. Brought back memories. And there's another thing that people miss i think. How many times did you saw a BW match casted in Korean, English, French, German, Polish, Russian and Italian ? | ||
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Ribbon
United States5278 Posts
On June 09 2014 17:01 iFU.pauline wrote: That obs was really bad, i can't believe he missed a drop on destination, then he is like "sorry first time I obs bw" as if there is no minimap in sc2. Then next game he misses drop templar. You would think he would prepare juuuuuuuust a bit before broadcasting Jaedong vs Stork. In obs mode, the SC2 minimap flashes when units or buildings are under attack to help you not miss things, which BW obviously doesn't. #themoreyouknow Also, as said, he was drunk and it was 1 in the morning and he was probably spending his mental energy on not sounding stupid | ||
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BisuDagger
Bisutopia19240 Posts
On June 10 2014 22:28 FFW_Rude wrote: You know that they were all hammered ? It's HSC. Apparently Stork was quite drunk too. Stork was eliminated from the SC2 tournament but not JD so it's nice that he took an hour of his sleep for this showmatchAnd the obs were... well they obs like that in SC2 too when they are drunk HSC is a really good tournament to watch even if you don't like SC2. Because downtimes are really funny. It's like there is games interupting the downtime Anyway as i said earlier. That showmatch was really nice to see. Brought back memories. And there's another thing that people miss i think. How many times did you saw a BW match casted in Korean, English, French, German, Polish, Russian and Italian ? The casting made me realize I either: - Get a co-caster or - Drink so much that I act out multiple personalities while I'm casting | ||
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FromShouri
United States862 Posts
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McRatyn
Poland901 Posts
On June 11 2014 02:05 BisuDagger wrote: The casting made me realize I either: - Get a co-caster or - Drink so much that I act out multiple personalities while I'm casting Make sure the co-caster is a fan of Shine. You'll be able to discuss hydra busting very in-depth. Don't know if it's just me but this never gets old. | ||
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BisuDagger
Bisutopia19240 Posts
On June 11 2014 03:06 McRatyn wrote: Make sure the co-caster is a fan of Shine. You'll be able to discuss hydra busting very in-depth. Don't know if it's just me but this never gets old. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/JNAv4L8.png) | ||
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McRatyn
Poland901 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/WeIMJT3.jpg) Translation, clockwise: "Kill him!, Jew!, ROFL" "Father, if you haven't left me give me some sign" "Shut you yapper John, I'm painting a fence in heaven" | ||
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Miragee
8509 Posts
On June 11 2014 02:05 BisuDagger wrote: The casting made me realize I either: - Get a co-caster or - Drink so much that I act out multiple personalities while I'm casting You are already that way, no need to drink. | ||
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FFW_Rude
France10201 Posts
On June 11 2014 02:05 BisuDagger wrote: The casting made me realize I either: - Get a co-caster or - Drink so much that I act out multiple personalities while I'm casting You need a DRUNK co-caster. | ||
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Boonbag
France3318 Posts
You need a FUNNY person ! | ||
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Arvendilin
Germany1878 Posts
On June 08 2014 19:31 nukkuj wrote: From the smiles it looks like they had a great time with BW, that's all what's important. Yup, that is the most Important thing :D I hope they also have a good time playing SC2, but they probably do, I remember Stork saying that he was really dissappointed because he really enjoys SC2 but can't translate this into results and he also wants fans to enjoy it with him/see how much is enjoying it, thats why he started doing ceremonys. Also one thing I want to say as a guy who enjoys both SC2 and BW, I don't think it helps to convert newer people to BW, and I really hope they have a chance to check out some of the amazing games that happened over the years so I want them to convert, if we are beeing so elitist about it. Sure we probably think it is one if not THE best game ever made, but that doesn't mean we have to be dicks about it. I personally like both, and while thinking that BW is better, there is no other RTS that comes close to SC2 other than BW. That doesn't mean I have to call WC3 guys out, because aslong as they have fun with their game and enjoy their time, then that is great! I used this showmatch to bring BW closer to a friend who only knows SC2, showing him that this game is awesome and that some of his favorite players started with it. I also wanted to show him the cool hardcore community, that still loves and supports the game after all this time, but looking at some of the posts I just couldn't, so I hope I dont get shouted on for this, but that we try to be a little bit friendlier even if we all know/believe that BW is the better game, doesn't mean that SC2 can't be awesome aswell, even if maybe not for us, then for other people. | ||
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