EPT[SSL] Round of 32 Preview - Welcome to 2014 - Page 3
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Falling
Canada11607 Posts
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Wedge
Canada580 Posts
Great read again as always. So pumped. | ||
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES51706 Posts
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Hesmyrr
Canada5776 Posts
Now let me quickly be a jerk ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/mirror/smilies/devil.gif) Had JangBi returned a year ago speculation about how well he would do may not have been as high, even upon his arrival people in the forums were already heralding him as the next SSL champion but in the last few months the competitive terrain has rapidly changed. This sentence is so confusing T_T If I'm to make quick adjustment... Had JangBi returned a year ago, speculation about how well he would do may not have been as high - people in the forums were already heralding him as the next SSL champion even upon his arrival. However, in the last few months the competitive terrain has rapidly changed. Most known by the name Curse of the OSL Champion. ZerO lost to Killer pretty badly in Proleague, he did however manage to win against self-proclaimed ZvZ master Modesty. I will have faith, I believe in the Spirit! meeeeeeehhhhh | ||
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Golgotha
Korea (South)8418 Posts
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soujiro_
Uruguay5195 Posts
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icystorage
Jollibee19350 Posts
 awesome article. | ||
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endy
Switzerland8970 Posts
Blizzard said they'll help to promote the event, I'm curious to see what they're gonna do. | ||
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miercat
394 Posts
On a different topic, I don't recall Zero being considered at all - nevermind "widely considered" the best Zerg after Jaedong, in the most recent Proleague years. If anything Jaedong was slumping pretty hard, and it was actually Soulkey who was essentially destroying everybody (even Terrans) except Flash, and was considered pretty clearly the best Zerg in the world. Zero never reached the same level that Soulkey did. | ||
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NB
Netherlands12045 Posts
I wish day9 still casting BW  . Could use some english casting. | ||
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Harem
United States11393 Posts
On January 09 2014 14:15 NB wrote: wow... i took the NSFL warning lightly... I cant fucking unsee that S&M entrance. x( I wish day9 still casting BW . Could use some english casting.What? Sayle is casting in English. | ||
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thezanursic
5504 Posts
On January 09 2014 11:39 Hesmyrr wrote: Excellent article! I'm certain SSL9 will be amazing tournament worth all the hype. Now let me quickly be a jerk This sentence is so confusing T_T If I'm to make quick adjustment... Had JangBi returned a year ago, speculation about how well he would do may not have been as high - people in the forums were already heralding him as the next SSL champion even upon his arrival. However, in the last few months the competitive terrain has rapidly changed. meeeeeeehhhhh Yeah... While the write-up was generally pretty good, smb should have spell checked it. | ||
Epoxide
Magic Woods9326 Posts
On January 09 2014 13:46 miercat wrote: Yes, for some reason I found it very interesting watching the Juice micro during the Group Ceremony. There were at least 6 different movements applied to the various juices (not drinking, just moving), by Sonic and LSW primarily, throughout the night. I never actually saw them drink any juice.. On a different topic, I don't recall Zero being considered at all - nevermind "widely considered" the best Zerg after Jaedong, in the most recent Proleague years. If anything Jaedong was slumping pretty hard, and it was actually Soulkey who was essentially destroying everybody (even Terrans) except Flash, and was considered pretty clearly the best Zerg in the world. Zero never reached the same level that Soulkey did. Do you not think that ZerO's second place finish in ABC Mart, and consistent semifinals appearances in tving and PDPop trumps Souley's round of 16 appearances? Perhaps Soulkey was considered better in ZvT, but I do think that ZerO should be called the better overall player. | ||
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mtvacuum
United States979 Posts
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BisuDagger
Bisutopia19398 Posts
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lemmata
468 Posts
On January 09 2014 14:34 Epoxide wrote: Do you not think that ZerO's second place finish in ABC Mart, and consistent semifinals appearances in tving and PDPop trumps Souley's round of 16 appearances? Perhaps Soulkey was considered better in ZvT, but I do think that ZerO should be called the better overall player. To borrow Kim Carrier's words, "Someone who did not win a championship but worthy of one". ZerO was kind of awesome. He was responsible for some goose bump moments. Soulkey was a good player (a good comparison might be Sea?) but not a championship class player in Brood War. | ||
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miercat
394 Posts
On January 09 2014 14:34 Epoxide wrote: Do you not think that ZerO's second place finish in ABC Mart, and consistent semifinals appearances in tving and PDPop trumps Souley's round of 16 appearances? Perhaps Soulkey was considered better in ZvT, but I do think that ZerO should be called the better overall player. Individual League performance may be in Zero's favor. But unless I am mistaken, I remember a period in time when Soulkey was considered a favorite against every player in the world except Flash. On the other hand, Zero would have, at all points in time, been considered an underdog to quite a number of players (including many Terran players). Based on overall statistics, and the players Soulkey was defeating, and the style in which he was doing so, it seems like he reached the higher "peak" of performance. And probably at one point he was playing the second highest level of ZvT ever (after Jaedong). Soulkey has a much better overall winrate, a much better ZvP winrate, and a much better ZvZ, winrate, and a better, although misleadingly low overall ZvT winrate (given that he improved his ZvT winrate SO dramatically in the last couple years).Soulkey had significantly less experience than Zero, and yet already significantly better statistics in all matchups. Nevermind just ZvT, I think there is compelling evidence that Soulkey was significantly better in every single matchup - by statistics, but also by directly observing quality of games. At one point, Soulkey was on the verge of being S-Class (or potentially even S-Class), Zero was having some decent success in individual leagues, but his overall play ranged from mediocre - to very good, but never really near S-Class. I would be interested however, in knowing what the Professional Korean commentators had to say about the topic. Soulkey: All: 94-66 (58.75%) vT: 36-31 (53.73%) vZ: 30-20 (60.00%) vP: 28-15 (65.12%) Zero: All: 224-184 (54.90%) vT: 57-51 (52.78%) vZ: 99-87 (53.23%) vP: 68-46 (59.65%) | ||
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Epoxide
Magic Woods9326 Posts
 I never had the feeling that Soulkey was considered a favourite against every player in the world except Flash or on the verge of being S-Class. | ||
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miercat
394 Posts
Based on the overall statistics and performance against high calibre players, it didn't seem like much of a stretch at all, to say that Soulkey was a much better player in every single matchup. But like I said, I would be very interested to know what the Korean's said on the issue, I'm sure it was discussed at one point or another, and they would likely know better than anyone. | ||
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Brad`
Canada548 Posts
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