• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 16:14
CEST 22:14
KST 05:14
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2912Serral wins Maestros of the Game 243ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12
Community News
Reynor: GSL Loss Wasn't About Preparation Format12[IPSL] Spring 2026 Grand Finals - This Weekend!1Weekly Cups (July 6 - 12): Protoss strike back9BSL Season 22 Full Overview & Conclusion8BSL Season 22 Full Overview & Conclusion8
StarCraft 2
General
Is the larve respawn broken? Weekly Cups (July 6 - 12): Protoss strike back Interview with an American 16 Year Old Grandmaster Serral wins HomeStory Cup 29 Reynor: GSL Loss Wasn't About Preparation Format
Tourneys
WardiTV Summer Cup 2026 GSL CK #5 Race War RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event HomeStory Cup 29 Vespene Cup #1 — $300+ USD, July 10
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
New Map Maker - Looking for Advice - Love or Hate Work In Progress Melee Maps [D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 534 Burning Evacuation Mutation # 533 Die Together Mutation # 532 Nuclear Family
Brood War
General
screpdb: new Starcraft reporting tool Pros Debate: Zerg Unfairly Nerfed? (ASL S22 map) ASL 22 Proposed Map Pool BSL Season 22 Full Overview & Conclusion BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
[ASL22] Wildcard Qualifier [IPSL] Spring 2026 Grand Finals - This Weekend! [Megathread] Daily Proleagues IPSL Spring 2026 Top 4!
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers Creating a full chart of Zerg builds Relatively freeroll strategies
Other Games
General Games
General RTS Discussion Thread Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Path of Exile Summer Games Done Quick 2026!
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance TL Mafia Community Thread TL Mafia Power Rank Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread UK Politics Mega-thread YouTube Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club The HerO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Movie Discussion! Series you have seen recently...
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread McBoner: A hockey love story Tennis[sport] Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Simple Questions Simple Answers FPS when play League Of Legend on laptop How to clean a TTe Thermaltake keyboard?
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Poker (part 2)
Nebuchad
The Experiences We Want and …
TrAiDoS
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
Gauntlet SC2: A Retrospectiv…
Ctone23
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Evil Gacha Games and the…
ffswowsucks
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 6535 users

BW General Discussion - Page 345

Forum Index > BW General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 343 344 345 346 347 512 Next
Cryoc
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany912 Posts
May 03 2020 12:56 GMT
#6881
ROFL, Zero got a fitting donation with a link to the final moments of game 4 of his OSL semi-finals vs Jangbi after the game.
http://www.twitch.tv/cryoc
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8961 Posts
May 03 2020 12:57 GMT
#6882
Guys, can you see that Flash has a higher APM when he plays protoss than when he plays terran! Unbelivable!
391 apm vs 330-350 as terran
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
Highgamer
Profile Joined October 2015
1470 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-05-03 16:31:12
May 03 2020 15:12 GMT
#6883
Well that proves that Protoss is that much harder to play after all.



edit for clarity: Kappa
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19228 Posts
May 03 2020 15:17 GMT
#6884
It proves Protoss is easier to play, leaving more time to spam APM up.
Liquipediaasante sana squash banana
Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4179 Posts
May 04 2020 03:24 GMT
#6885
Anyone know what Fantasy is up to recently? He went back to SC2 after his military but that was around 1-2 years back, not sure if he's still playing SC2?
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
May 04 2020 03:40 GMT
#6886
On May 04 2020 12:24 Dante08 wrote:
Anyone know what Fantasy is up to recently? He went back to SC2 after his military but that was around 1-2 years back, not sure if he's still playing SC2?

Head coach of a lol team.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Chris_Havoc
Profile Joined August 2016
United States600 Posts
May 04 2020 04:21 GMT
#6887
On May 04 2020 12:24 Dante08 wrote:
Anyone know what Fantasy is up to recently? He went back to SC2 after his military but that was around 1-2 years back, not sure if he's still playing SC2?


https://tl.net/forum/starcraft-2/552910-fantasy-retires-joins-sandbox-as-lol-coach
Owner of the SC2 Esports Anthology channel on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/SC2EsportsAnthology
Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4179 Posts
May 04 2020 08:06 GMT
#6888
Oh wow that's a pity, always thought he would return to BW
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10345 Posts
May 04 2020 08:40 GMT
#6889
On May 04 2020 17:06 Dante08 wrote:
Oh wow that's a pity, always thought he would return to BW

I believe he was one of the few prominent BW players who consistently said he likes SC2, so it was kinda foreseeable.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
ne4aJIb
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Russian Federation3209 Posts
May 04 2020 16:18 GMT
#6890
What about Shuttle? Where is he?
Bisu,Best,Stork,Jangbi and Flash, Fantasy, Leta, Light and Jaedong, Hydra, Zero, Soulkey assemble in ACE now!
ne4aJIb
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Russian Federation3209 Posts
May 04 2020 16:22 GMT
#6891
On May 03 2020 21:57 prosatan wrote:
Guys, can you see that Flash has a higher APM when he plays protoss than when he plays terran! Unbelivable!
391 apm vs 330-350 as terran


Right now Flash is playing terran and his apm is 410
Bisu,Best,Stork,Jangbi and Flash, Fantasy, Leta, Light and Jaedong, Hydra, Zero, Soulkey assemble in ACE now!
WaterSerpentM
Profile Joined November 2018
United Kingdom139 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-05-04 16:42:25
May 04 2020 16:40 GMT
#6892
On April 25 2020 20:25 chuDr3t4 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2020 16:07 WaterSerpentM wrote:
On April 21 2020 06:19 Jealous wrote:
I love how well over a year ago you were informed in rigorous detail as to why Corsairs are not good against BC's yet you still include them as a counter. Over 1 year. 0 progress.


get 1200 worth of minerals of BC to fight 1200 worth of minerals of corsairs, and see what happens


That would be 3 BC vc 8 Corsairs

Also, it takes 252 seconds to make 3 BC and 200 seconds to make 8 Corsairs, which give more advantage to Corsairs

this is why you're a butt of jokes here

you're a delusional clown who spouts bullshit that can be fact checked in minutes so noone takes you seriously


2 more corsairs could of been made by the time those BC were made, yes its more minerals, but the BC wouldn't of reached by that time

you gotta consider both variables, minerals and time made

looks like you gotta test it again
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12043 Posts
May 04 2020 16:42 GMT
#6893
If you're talking counters then scouts are a massive counter to BCs. Corsairs no.
FanTaSy's #1 Fan | STPL Caster/Organiser | SKT BEST KT | https://twitch.tv/stpl
WaterSerpentM
Profile Joined November 2018
United Kingdom139 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-05-04 16:44:14
May 04 2020 16:43 GMT
#6894
On May 05 2020 01:42 Qikz wrote:
If you're talking counters then scouts are a massive counter to BCs. Corsairs no.


you're right in 1 way

i say both could work
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10345 Posts
May 04 2020 16:45 GMT
#6895
On May 05 2020 01:43 WaterSerpentM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2020 01:42 Qikz wrote:
If you're talking counters then scouts are a massive counter to BCs. Corsairs no.


you're right in 1 way

i say both could work

I say the Earth is flat and the moon is made of cheese.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
WaterSerpentM
Profile Joined November 2018
United Kingdom139 Posts
May 04 2020 16:46 GMT
#6896
On May 05 2020 01:45 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2020 01:43 WaterSerpentM wrote:
On May 05 2020 01:42 Qikz wrote:
If you're talking counters then scouts are a massive counter to BCs. Corsairs no.


you're right in 1 way

i say both could work

I say the Earth is flat and the moon is made of cheese.


ye its in your name
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19228 Posts
May 04 2020 16:50 GMT
#6897
Stop moving the goal posts. Your claim of equal amounts of minerals units was disproven. You cannot prove your point by saying "yeah but in that time the Protoss could have spent even more money and won" because that's 1) a different point and 2) incredibly stupid.
Liquipediaasante sana squash banana
WaterSerpentM
Profile Joined November 2018
United Kingdom139 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-05-04 16:54:08
May 04 2020 16:51 GMT
#6898
deleted for accidental double post
WaterSerpentM
Profile Joined November 2018
United Kingdom139 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-05-04 17:01:09
May 04 2020 16:53 GMT
#6899
On May 05 2020 01:50 tofucake wrote:
Stop moving the goal posts. Your claim of equal amounts of minerals units was disproven. You cannot prove your point by saying "yeah but in that time the Protoss could have spent even more money and won" because that's 1) a different point and 2) incredibly stupid.


that information was in the original post, they just didn't consider it when they tested it

"Also, it takes 252 seconds to make 3 BC and 200 seconds to make 8 Corsairs, which give more advantage to Corsairs"

252 - 200 = 52

52/25 = 2.08

thats 2 more corsairs
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10345 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-05-04 17:07:14
May 04 2020 17:06 GMT
#6900
On May 05 2020 01:53 WaterSerpentM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2020 01:50 tofucake wrote:
Stop moving the goal posts. Your claim of equal amounts of minerals units was disproven. You cannot prove your point by saying "yeah but in that time the Protoss could have spent even more money and won" because that's 1) a different point and 2) incredibly stupid.


that information was in the original post, they just didn't consider it when they tested it

"Also, it takes 252 seconds to make 3 BC and 200 seconds to make 8 Corsairs, which give more advantage to Corsairs"

252 - 200 = 52

52/25 = 2.08

thats 2 more corsairs

Who goes 1 Starport BCs?

If 10 Corsairs really do barely beat 3 BCs, does that really make them a "counter"? Doesn't a counter, like, have to do really well against something to be considered a counter?

Also, why are you telling people to run tests for you? Haven't you already run these tests, and that's how you know all this information? Or are you just making stuff up based on what you think might be true based on your limited experience? Surely you have some data to back up your claims?
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Prev 1 343 344 345 346 347 512 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 12h 47m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
UpATreeSC 215
Railgan 58
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 2557
Britney 659
ggaemo 220
firebathero 161
Dewaltoss 100
Zeus 64
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu275
Other Games
Grubby3220
tarik_tv2122
Liquid`RaSZi1019
fl0m1013
Beastyqt607
C9.Mang0246
RotterdaM218
XaKoH 149
Livibee87
mouzStarbuck73
SteadfastSC59
CosmosSc2 21
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick2479
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 95
• Reevou 1
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• Michael_bg 6
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• Noizen34
League of Legends
• Shiphtur416
Other Games
• imaqtpie1109
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
12h 47m
CrankTV Team League
14h 47m
Replay Cast
1d 12h
CrankTV Team League
1d 14h
Replay Cast
2 days
RSL Revival
2 days
Clem vs Lambo
Scarlett vs Cure
CranKy Ducklings
2 days
IPSL
2 days
Dragon vs Hawk
RSL Revival
3 days
Classic vs Trap
herO vs SHIN
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
[ Show More ]
IPSL
3 days
Bonyth vs Ret
WardiTV Weekly
4 days
Monday Night Weeklies
4 days
PiGosaur Cup
6 days
The PondCast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

YSL S3
HSC XXIX
Eternal Conflict S2 E2

Ongoing

IPSL Spring 2026
Acropolis #4
CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
RSL Revival: Season 6
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
SCTL 2026 Spring
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S3: W3
ASL S22 SEASON OPEN Day 1
Escore Tournament S3: W4
ASL S22 SEASON OPEN Day 2
Escore Tournament S3: W5
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
HSC XXX
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
Light Tournament 2026
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale
Eternal Conflict S2 E3
Logitech G Connect 2026
StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.