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Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8099 Posts
August 02 2019 18:26 GMT
#5961
On August 03 2019 02:41 GGzerG wrote:
What was Soma's aka?


Currently on the ladder he's just using a barcode if that's what you're asking (at least in games vs flash earlier today).
Free Palestine
marwin
Profile Joined June 2011
Ukraine109 Posts
August 02 2019 22:27 GMT
#5962
According to the sponsored matches statistic for the july-august, soma is top4 player with the record of 178-142 (55.6% wr).
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Du kan om du vill...
Chronopolis
Profile Joined April 2009
Canada1484 Posts
August 02 2019 23:29 GMT
#5963
Marwin fyi, you can press the Letter (A) icon to switch the player names to English names
Burled_Sapele
Profile Joined June 2019
10 Posts
August 03 2019 01:23 GMT
#5964
320 sponsored matches in a one-month period?!

He's played more ZvT (167 matches) than the ASL 8 Ro8 competitors have played sponmatches in total save Action and Light. That's a lot of ZvT.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25315 Posts
August 03 2019 01:26 GMT
#5965
On August 03 2019 08:29 Chronopolis wrote:
Marwin fyi, you can press the Letter (A) icon to switch the player names to English names

I prefer it the handwritten way
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28665 Posts
August 03 2019 01:31 GMT
#5966
soulkey with the 16-1 zvp lol
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Terrorbladder
Profile Joined May 2014
2718 Posts
August 03 2019 01:48 GMT
#5967
On August 03 2019 03:26 Ideas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2019 02:41 GGzerG wrote:
What was Soma's aka?


Currently on the ladder he's just using a barcode if that's what you're asking (at least in games vs flash earlier today).

Really? I thought that was Calm.
My dream is to fertilize two females at a time.
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8099 Posts
August 03 2019 02:39 GMT
#5968
On August 03 2019 10:48 Terrorbladder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2019 03:26 Ideas wrote:
On August 03 2019 02:41 GGzerG wrote:
What was Soma's aka?


Currently on the ladder he's just using a barcode if that's what you're asking (at least in games vs flash earlier today).

Really? I thought that was Calm.


Maybe Calm also uses a barcode? That's the point of using a barcode though right? haha
Free Palestine
Highgamer
Profile Joined October 2015
1407 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-03 13:43:22
August 03 2019 13:41 GMT
#5969
These boX matches being played today on the streams, just now Best vs Rush (?) epic carrier game finished a min ago, obsed and commentated (agitatedly) by Flash, Larva, etc. Definitelly worth the re-watch. So much passion, so much energy, so much fun. Good times for BW.

edit: Well, reading the post below, just shows how close joy and sadness are together in everything humans do...
Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17727 Posts
August 03 2019 13:41 GMT
#5970
On August 01 2019 05:29 hazelynut wrote:
A Korean friend of me just let me know.

+ Show Spoiler +
U heard IMJunwiPirme passed away?
apparently he took his own life
No!!!!!
Where did you hear this
it's all over Korean news
at least it is on Korean news rn
idk if u know him well. He was a professional starcraft guy
also known as Junwi_[saM]


I'm asking him to translate the articles. But this is super sad and shocking. Especially in light of recent news in the community. Can someone in our community translate if they're not on it already?

More news

+ Show Spoiler +
http://news.chosun.com/site/data/html_dir/2019/07/31/2019073101438.html
"사인은 알려지지 않았다."=cause of death was not announced=eupherism for suicide
and I just looked up and everyone on social media is saying he took his own life so yeah

Oh wow knew that he passed away because of the thread made but didn't know it was by suicide
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
August 04 2019 13:17 GMT
#5971
It occurred to me today + Show Spoiler +
with the kind of short ASL bo5
that it doesn't make sense we have the same number of games for ZvZs as for TvTs and other matchups. TvT's can be exhausting for viewers and hard on players even at bo5. A bo5 ZvZ is still quite short and swingy. I think in my ideal setup as a viewer, I would want bo5 TvT for a finals, bo9 ZvZ, bo7 maybe for other matchups... And for earlier rounds, bo3 TvT for a bo5 ZvZ. Something like that. That would help more consistent Zergs and Protoss who get knocked out too early from their volatile mirrors, while saving the hands of TvT players a bit from their hour long tough but fair matches.

Just a weird thought on something related to the meta-balance of StarCraft. Everyone knows a ZvZ finals is typically very bad, because it can be over in 20 minutes if it's a 3-0. I think more ZvZs would be more chances for at least one of them to go into something not pure muta ling, or at least have a chance at deciding games where players rolled equal builds.
LEGEND!! LEGEND!!
outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
August 04 2019 13:26 GMT
#5972
How the hell Light is on 3rd place when his TvT and TvP are garbage? Did he play vs. Z only? Record shows opposite, maybe he's offline choker? Also interesting to see Rain so down. I'm really looking forward for terran destroyer SoMa to deliver next ASL by going deep.
sunbeams are never made like me...
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25315 Posts
August 04 2019 13:34 GMT
#5973
On August 04 2019 22:17 Chef wrote:
It occurred to me today + Show Spoiler +
with the kind of short ASL bo5
that it doesn't make sense we have the same number of games for ZvZs as for TvTs and other matchups. TvT's can be exhausting for viewers and hard on players even at bo5. A bo5 ZvZ is still quite short and swingy. I think in my ideal setup as a viewer, I would want bo5 TvT for a finals, bo9 ZvZ, bo7 maybe for other matchups... And for earlier rounds, bo3 TvT for a bo5 ZvZ. Something like that. That would help more consistent Zergs and Protoss who get knocked out too early from their volatile mirrors, while saving the hands of TvT players a bit from their hour long tough but fair matches.

Just a weird thought on something related to the meta-balance of StarCraft. Everyone knows a ZvZ finals is typically very bad, because it can be over in 20 minutes if it's a 3-0. I think more ZvZs would be more chances for at least one of them to go into something not pure muta ling, or at least have a chance at deciding games where players rolled equal builds.

It would probably make it easier to schedule tournaments for sure.

'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28665 Posts
August 04 2019 13:49 GMT
#5974
On August 04 2019 22:26 outscar wrote:
How the hell Light is on 3rd place when his TvT and TvP are garbage? Did he play vs. Z only? Record shows opposite, maybe he's offline choker? Also interesting to see Rain so down. I'm really looking forward for terran destroyer SoMa to deliver next ASL by going deep.


Seeing how he has the best stat out of anyone in tvp over a 60 game sample size it seems unfair to consider his tvp garbage..
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Highgamer
Profile Joined October 2015
1407 Posts
August 04 2019 14:24 GMT
#5975
On August 04 2019 22:17 Chef wrote:
It occurred to me today + Show Spoiler +
with the kind of short ASL bo5
that it doesn't make sense we have the same number of games for ZvZs as for TvTs and other matchups. TvT's can be exhausting for viewers and hard on players even at bo5. A bo5 ZvZ is still quite short and swingy. I think in my ideal setup as a viewer, I would want bo5 TvT for a finals, bo9 ZvZ, bo7 maybe for other matchups... And for earlier rounds, bo3 TvT for a bo5 ZvZ. Something like that. That would help more consistent Zergs and Protoss who get knocked out too early from their volatile mirrors, while saving the hands of TvT players a bit from their hour long tough but fair matches.

Just a weird thought on something related to the meta-balance of StarCraft. Everyone knows a ZvZ finals is typically very bad, because it can be over in 20 minutes if it's a 3-0. I think more ZvZs would be more chances for at least one of them to go into something not pure muta ling, or at least have a chance at deciding games where players rolled equal builds.


So if we end up with a ZvZ final... you want more of it?
Dazed.
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3301 Posts
August 04 2019 14:39 GMT
#5976
On August 04 2019 22:17 Chef wrote:
It occurred to me today + Show Spoiler +
with the kind of short ASL bo5
that it doesn't make sense we have the same number of games for ZvZs as for TvTs and other matchups. TvT's can be exhausting for viewers and hard on players even at bo5. A bo5 ZvZ is still quite short and swingy. I think in my ideal setup as a viewer, I would want bo5 TvT for a finals, bo9 ZvZ, bo7 maybe for other matchups... And for earlier rounds, bo3 TvT for a bo5 ZvZ. Something like that. That would help more consistent Zergs and Protoss who get knocked out too early from their volatile mirrors, while saving the hands of TvT players a bit from their hour long tough but fair matches.

Just a weird thought on something related to the meta-balance of StarCraft. Everyone knows a ZvZ finals is typically very bad, because it can be over in 20 minutes if it's a 3-0. I think more ZvZs would be more chances for at least one of them to go into something not pure muta ling, or at least have a chance at deciding games where players rolled equal builds.
better solution; patch broodwar and fix zvz.
Never say Die! ||| Fight you? No, I want to kill you.
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8649 Posts
August 04 2019 15:25 GMT
#5977
On August 04 2019 23:39 Dazed. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2019 22:17 Chef wrote:
It occurred to me today + Show Spoiler +
with the kind of short ASL bo5
that it doesn't make sense we have the same number of games for ZvZs as for TvTs and other matchups. TvT's can be exhausting for viewers and hard on players even at bo5. A bo5 ZvZ is still quite short and swingy. I think in my ideal setup as a viewer, I would want bo5 TvT for a finals, bo9 ZvZ, bo7 maybe for other matchups... And for earlier rounds, bo3 TvT for a bo5 ZvZ. Something like that. That would help more consistent Zergs and Protoss who get knocked out too early from their volatile mirrors, while saving the hands of TvT players a bit from their hour long tough but fair matches.

Just a weird thought on something related to the meta-balance of StarCraft. Everyone knows a ZvZ finals is typically very bad, because it can be over in 20 minutes if it's a 3-0. I think more ZvZs would be more chances for at least one of them to go into something not pure muta ling, or at least have a chance at deciding games where players rolled equal builds.
better solution; patch broodwar and fix zvz.

this is literally the worst solution possible
Counc1l
Profile Joined April 2019
33 Posts
August 04 2019 19:03 GMT
#5978
On August 04 2019 22:26 outscar wrote:
How the hell Light is on 3rd place when his TvT and TvP are garbage? Did he play vs. Z only? Record shows opposite, maybe he's offline choker? Also interesting to see Rain so down. I'm really looking forward for terran destroyer SoMa to deliver next ASL by going deep.


59% in TvT and 75% in TvP according to that chart. I've seen his TvP recently in starleague and his timings are incredibly sharp; he's good.
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10009 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-04 21:32:27
August 04 2019 21:31 GMT
#5979
On August 04 2019 22:26 outscar wrote:
How the hell Light is on 3rd place when his TvT and TvP are garbage? Did he play vs. Z only? Record shows opposite, maybe he's offline choker? Also interesting to see Rain so down. I'm really looking forward for terran destroyer SoMa to deliver next ASL by going deep.


Light is indeed an offline choker and he typically doesn't play top end oppos in spon matches. For example, this month the highest ranked T he played is Sharp, highest rank P is BeSt (went 0-3 vs him, after that it's Stork and Horang2.. so no games vs SnOw/Rain/Mini) and the highest Z is SoMa.

His spon winrate is typically inflated.
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
ProMeTheus112
Profile Joined December 2009
France2027 Posts
August 05 2019 11:18 GMT
#5980
On August 05 2019 00:25 evilfatsh1t wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2019 23:39 Dazed. wrote:
On August 04 2019 22:17 Chef wrote:
It occurred to me today + Show Spoiler +
with the kind of short ASL bo5
that it doesn't make sense we have the same number of games for ZvZs as for TvTs and other matchups. TvT's can be exhausting for viewers and hard on players even at bo5. A bo5 ZvZ is still quite short and swingy. I think in my ideal setup as a viewer, I would want bo5 TvT for a finals, bo9 ZvZ, bo7 maybe for other matchups... And for earlier rounds, bo3 TvT for a bo5 ZvZ. Something like that. That would help more consistent Zergs and Protoss who get knocked out too early from their volatile mirrors, while saving the hands of TvT players a bit from their hour long tough but fair matches.

Just a weird thought on something related to the meta-balance of StarCraft. Everyone knows a ZvZ finals is typically very bad, because it can be over in 20 minutes if it's a 3-0. I think more ZvZs would be more chances for at least one of them to go into something not pure muta ling, or at least have a chance at deciding games where players rolled equal builds.
better solution; patch broodwar and fix zvz.

this is literally the worst solution possible

rofl, patch can be good, patch can be bad, patching to make the game better and fix broken matchups is the worst solution possible to the problem of bad matchups xD well it won't happen there's nobody at blizzard who is willing and skilled to do that
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