EPTOn August 29 2013 17:23 Dodgin wrote:
This is the Brood War forum what were you expecting
This is the Brood War forum what were you expecting
Some dignity would be nice but maybe I'm an optimist
Jangbi retires - Page 18
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Zealously
East Gorteau22261 Posts
Some dignity would be nice but maybe I'm an optimist | ||
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bo1b
Australia12814 Posts
On August 29 2013 17:24 Zealously wrote: Some dignity would be nice but maybe I'm an optimist Looking past faults is something that naniwa fans are good at, surely you can look past the bw forums problems. | ||
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chambertin
United States1704 Posts
After starting SC2 i still somehow decided to tune into to some Jangbi vs Zero as like the first BW I ever really watched.... the storms, the magic. Gl gl sir, tho I wish you wouldn't go. | ||
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Lucumo
6850 Posts
On August 29 2013 17:28 bo1b wrote: Looking past faults is something that naniwa fans are good at, surely you can look past the bw forums problems. What problems? We are fine on our own and at least we don't derail threads unlike some other people ^ So don't answer and let the people who are on-topic post. | ||
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LuckyMacro
United States1482 Posts
I'll miss you :[ | ||
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Khai
Australia553 Posts
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
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SkelA
Macedonia13090 Posts
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MasterOfPuppets
Romania6942 Posts
On August 29 2013 17:37 SkelA wrote: Why is this in BW forum and not in SC2 ? Last time i checked he played SC2 I think it's funny that you consider yourself a KHAN fan and then make a post like this... | ||
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theking1
Romania658 Posts
On August 29 2013 17:17 MasterOfPuppets wrote: It's Blizzard's fault for killing professional BW and forcing Kespa to switch to SC2 even though not all players enjoy the game. blizzard didn't kill anything.bw simply got replaced by it's newer version called sc2.And if you think kespa and ogn would have kept bw teams and broadcasted bw competition instead of lol ones..i highly disagree with you | ||
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MasterOfPuppets
Romania6942 Posts
On August 29 2013 17:39 theking1 wrote: blizzard didn't kill anything.bw simply got replaced by it's newer version called sc2.And if you think kespa and ogn would have kept bw teams and broadcasted bw competition instead of lol ones..i highly disagree with you Well I know they would never have switched to SC2 of their own volition, considering how little popularity it has in Korea compared to either BW -or- LoL.  | ||
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Glioburd
France1911 Posts
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endy
Switzerland8970 Posts
On August 29 2013 15:18 lichter wrote: On the one hand, I agree that if he didn't enjoy the game, then getting on with his life is the right choice. But on the other I see someone like Jaedong who did so poorly for a long period in SC2, but just won't fucking give up until he succeeds. Seriously ? Jangbi was working extremely hard and is certainly not someone who gives up easily. He did very well during the Dragons era, then fell into a huge and very long slump and ended up being nicknamed "pae-wang" ( = loser king) by journalists. Then he came back out of nowhere to win two OSL back to back. The real problem is that he was forced to switch to SC2 while he was dreaming of a Golden Mouse... | ||
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Kergy
Peru2011 Posts
On August 29 2013 17:39 theking1 wrote: blizzard didn't kill anything.bw simply got replaced by it's newer version called sc2.And if you think kespa and ogn would have kept bw teams and broadcasted bw competition instead of lol ones..i highly disagree with you uhmm no... Blizzard tried but ultimately, LoL replaced BW and became the long awaited BW2 in Korea | ||
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Zealously
East Gorteau22261 Posts
On August 29 2013 17:38 MasterOfPuppets wrote: I think it's funny that you consider yourself a KHAN fan and then make a post like this... What's funny is that you seem to think being a KHAN fan somehow means you should think this belongs in the BW forum. Anyway, if we all were to stop spitting insults, I think it's really sad that Jangbi is retiring - I thought for sure he was going to have some real success after watching him play toward the end of the PL season. But if you're not enjoying what you're doing when you're putting in as many hours as Jangbang no doubt was, then there's not much to do but call it a day. Hopefully he'll have a great life, whatever he chooses to do. On August 29 2013 17:37 SkelA wrote: Why is this in BW forum and not in SC2 ? Last time i checked he played SC2 How is a player's career ending because he's not enjoying himself great news? | ||
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MasterOfPuppets
Romania6942 Posts
On August 29 2013 17:43 Zealously wrote: What's funny is that you seem to think being a KHAN fan somehow means you should think this belongs in the BW forum. Anyway, if we all were to stop spitting insults, I think it's really sad that Jangbi is retiring - I thought for sure he was going to have some real success after watching him play toward the end of the PL season. But if you're not enjoying what you're doing when you're putting in as many hours as Jangbang no doubt was, then there's not much to do but call it a day. Hopefully he'll have a great life, whatever he chooses to do. So you're renouncing JangBi's legacy in Brood War just because he plays a different game now? Maybe he still has people who give two shits about him in the BW community, don't you think they deserve to know about his retirement and discuss/mourn? | ||
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
this is the danger zone | ||
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Zealously
East Gorteau22261 Posts
On August 29 2013 17:44 MasterOfPuppets wrote: So you're renouncing JangBi's legacy in Brood War just because he plays a different game now? Maybe he still has people who give two shits about him in the BW community, don't you think they deserve to know about his retirement and discuss/mourn? No I agree that it should be in the Brood War section, but wondering why it isn't in the Starcraft II-section since Jangbi hasn't had anything to do with Brood War for over a year isn't exactly a whacked-out thing to say (and it has little to do with team icons) On August 29 2013 17:45 Dodgin wrote: careful zealousy this is the danger zone All I see is gloating. But you're right, I'll leave. Sorry for stirring shit up. | ||
GTR
51698 Posts
On August 29 2013 16:41 Kergy wrote: Does anyone have the comic from this thread saved? http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=238074 for some reason i only have this iconic image saved ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/jfN2FLT.jpg) | ||
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Pontius Pirate
United States1557 Posts
January 21st, 2013: "I found out how to properly play SC2 WoL. Ever since I found out exactly how I'm supposed to play a macro game, I've even been enjoying my practices. If there was ever a time in the beginning where I was feeling forced to practice, then right now I feel the complete opposite. Since I am putting in the effort to work hard, I am having fun and I think I'm making good results." April 10th, 2013: "After winning my final BW championship, I've been on a decline ever since my transition to HotS. However, I'm sure that's just one of many roads that I'll be able to take. It's time for me to start rising." In a video interview with Khaldor on the same day, he expressed resignation and frustration that he wouldn't get many opportunities to travel abroad, as Samsung only contracted the team out for events inside Korea. He also stated that he wished he could switch to Zerg, but he felt an obligation to the fans to stay as Protoss, which he found to be the race least suitable to his playstyle, and that the changes in HotS actually encouraged more defensive play from Protoss. While he clearly emphasized how much easier SC2 was than BW, he also specifically stated "even as a Brood War pro, I played Starcraft 2 as a hobby when I had time. They're both really fun games." April 13th, 2013: "I feel proud of the fact that I was responsible for the team's 200th victory today. I really hope I'm still here when we grab our 300th victory." (I just thought that this showed his commitment to his legacy) Guys, I hate to sound like I've got a tinfoil hat on, but I really don't think this is all about being bored with SC2. I think it's very likely that that is partially to blame, and that he feels Protoss isn't terribly fun, but I think the story is greatly oversimplifying his reasons for quitting. He's from the farthest city in SK from Seoul, so he probably doesn't get to see his family terribly often. He mentioned wanting to see his sister's wedding and his (potential) niece. He's got military service coming up in a year, and probably has only so much time he can get better. SC2 is a less remunerative career in Korea these days, and he probably was looking at his contract negotiations, comparing them with the years in which he was nearly top banana, and thinking "gee, this sucks!". Perhaps he felt that he was currently hitting a wall, much as Snute explored the psychology of in his recent blog. All of these were probably (except maybe hitting a wall, which is purely conjecture) on his mind and contributing to him not continuing his career. | ||
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