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DES Retirement Interview with BeSt - Page 4

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Nerfed
Profile Joined May 2010
Russian Federation1132 Posts
August 26 2013 01:19 GMT
#61
oh BeSt i will miss you! good luck
Gorribal
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Canada186 Posts
August 26 2013 02:24 GMT
#62
Commentators and fans have gotten too rude. And it is the fault of the community as a whole. It shouldn't be okay to say one player doesn't have a chance against another, that them winning is just a fluke, etc. BeSt is not the first to say there is too much of it in the community. I have seen many threads on Reddit of people getting tired of esports because of this exact same reason.
"PartinG keeps touching us and groping us (laughs)." - Rain
MercurialVanjal
Profile Joined January 2013
14 Posts
August 26 2013 03:36 GMT
#63
OMG This is sooooo sad....:SSSSS

i was hoping Best can come back after the military service..

Anyway, Best luck to Best!
Parting,Hero,Bomber
dreamseller
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
Australia914 Posts
August 26 2013 08:03 GMT
#64
feeling so much happiness in every moment in his career


except that one time he wanted to run away into the sea
PGtour admin
Epithet
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States840 Posts
August 27 2013 07:56 GMT
#65
Wait Best retired? Sad to see another one go
YellOw, Reach, & Nal_Ra Hwaiting!!
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-27 15:30:36
August 27 2013 15:29 GMT
#66
I had no reason to continue being a progamer. Even continuing for one or two more years, I felt it would not be enough to reach the top. The thought that you can achieve anything with just hard work isn't quite true. No matter how hard you try, sometimes some things don't work out. At that time, being honest with yourself and stopping is a brave thing to do."


Wonderful quote and this goes back to what I was saying about players like Bisu and Stork.

On August 27 2013 16:56 Epithet wrote:
Wait Best retired? Sad to see another one go


He was getting ready to go to the Military, saw no benefit in continuing with SC2 atm and wanted to get it out of the way. Let him do his service and then we'll see where he goes from there.
Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-27 18:12:53
August 27 2013 18:06 GMT
#67
Thanks for the translation.

I think this was a very P.R. answer and his real reasons are more complicated. The 'always leave them wanting more' is something Effort sort of said too, but it doesn't really apply here. When a comedian or writer says that, they intend to write more, they just want to make the last joke or page strong, so that you'll look forward to next time. When there is no next time, there's no reason to do it. It feels romantic and it feels like a great thing to say, but it's not uncommon that people who go through dramatic exit are also hungry for more, maybe more hungry than their fans were.

I can speculate a lot of reasons, but I think if he isn't having fun anymore such that a comment like 'the current strongest SC2 player is going to take the set' bothers him a lot, then maybe the real reason its time to leave is that he has lost his spirit to prove people wrong, and being a progamer now has become a chore he wants to be acknowledged for. Combine that with knowing that he eventually will have to go to the army no matter what, he might as well quit with people remembering him fondly.

Maybe because in BW, even Flash would not make people count BeSt out, someone like Bogus (ace though he be, for a losing team) being given that much favour over him would feel like falling a long way and be a pretty big blow to his ego. And because he knew he was capable of beating Bogus, and moveover proved it, it ends up feeling like a betrayal. Maybe the article writer is giving us a warped perspective, but that feeling seems at least equal to wanting to be remembered. Add that with maybe not caring about being the greatest player in SC2, and it just feels like a job where you're not being respected for your work.

My thoughts, anyway. I hope he will find something fulfilling after his service.

Wonderful quote and this goes back to what I was saying about players like Bisu and Stork.

I think Bisu and Stork probably have contracts to finish with their teams. They probably pay a good amount too. I get the feeling the article is insinuating more about Boxer or Yellow or TossGirl, maybe almost all of ACE in general. I don't know if that's BeSt's own insinuation (I doubt it), but regardless Bisu and Stork are a totally different situation. They got stuck in the middle of a transition and they're contracted to keep working and practicing. Imagine it more like 'choosing not to renew the contract' than it is leaving whenever you want, because I don't think the latter is legal. I would guess, anyway. I can't consider Bisu or Stork washed out either, because they game they're not winning in is not the game they became known for...
LEGEND!! LEGEND!!
Kyuukyuu
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada6263 Posts
August 27 2013 18:35 GMT
#68
Thanks for translating.

On August 25 2013 06:20 GoTuNk! wrote:
I Also copied my p v z/p v t from you.


wat
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
August 27 2013 18:36 GMT
#69
Well aware of the last line man. It goes back to my argument with another guy in another thread when it comes down to certain players and their inability to perform in a new game, lol.
Kal_rA
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2925 Posts
August 27 2013 19:06 GMT
#70
You are not a walkover Best. Please participate in the next SRT and walkover all these other scrubs!
Jaedong.
danbel1005
Profile Joined February 2008
United States1319 Posts
August 27 2013 19:16 GMT
#71
OMG i can not believe this, many of these Broodwar progamers retiring makes me sad in massive proportions, to think that i grew up watching their games and now many of them are taking a different road in live, its good for them of course and im happy for them but at the same time it makes me really sad to see them go, so many good memories...OH MAN T___T
GL HF Best. You'll be missed.
"EE HAN TIMING" Jaedong vs Stork [22 December, 2007] 2set @ Finals EVER OSL.
seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9777 Posts
August 28 2013 01:16 GMT
#72
Oh my, this was way deeper than I was prepared for
boomer hands
white_horse
Profile Joined July 2010
1019 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-28 01:41:00
August 28 2013 01:37 GMT
#73
On August 24 2013 14:19 Heyoka wrote:
Cool read, thanks!

Show nested quote +
On August 24 2013 11:13 juki wrote:
He sometimes thought of running away in the night. Since he was not a well-known progamer and did not have a contract with the team, he believed that if escaped in the early morning and jumped in the sea no one would find him.


Whoah that got dark.


I just read the korean article and that was translated literally. I don't think best was suicidal or actually wanted to jump into the real ocean.

Best was one of my favorite players because he seemed like a confident, bright person. The interview supports that image I have of him and hope he is able to enjoy the next part of his life too.
Translator
juki
Profile Joined April 2012
68 Posts
August 28 2013 07:30 GMT
#74
On August 28 2013 10:37 white_horse wrote:


I just read the korean article and that was translated literally. I don't think best was suicidal or actually wanted to jump into the real ocean.


That's correct; it was a mis-translation on my part. The actual meaning is closer to "laying low" rather than diving into the sea. I've edited it into the original post.

Thanks
PM me if you want a BW-related item translated (stuff on former players is okay as well)
Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
August 28 2013 08:55 GMT
#75
goodbye horse
Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
myminerals
Profile Joined August 2013
560 Posts
August 28 2013 10:49 GMT
#76
good bye Best, I enjoyed your games!
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
August 29 2013 07:30 GMT
#77
Thanks so much for translating this, I don't check the BW section often these days so I almost missed it.
GoTuNk!
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Chile4591 Posts
September 01 2013 13:39 GMT
#78
On August 28 2013 03:35 Kyuukyuu wrote:
Thanks for translating.

Show nested quote +
On August 25 2013 06:20 GoTuNk! wrote:
I Also copied my p v z/p v t from you.


wat



BeSt build's were easier to execute as they relied on timing mostly.

Bisu's style on the other hand was to harras zerg to death while expanding and not dying by his superior micro/multitasking, which I never had t.t
Ciryandor
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3735 Posts
September 01 2013 14:30 GMT
#79
May he find better ways to macro his way to success.
에일리 and 아이유 <3 - O Captain 박재혁 ・゚✧*:・*゚+..。✧・゚:*・..。 ✧・゚ :・゚* ゜・*:・ ✧・゚:・゚:.。 ✧・゚ SPARKULING ・゜・:・゚✧*:・゚✧。*゚+..。 ✧・゚: ✧・゚:*・゜・:・゚✧*::
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