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Okay... I'm not sure if anyone has made a topic to discuss it because but i think this is really important to me as it seems i really suck in late game at zerg before of my fingers. Let me get it straight ... i'll start by calling thumb finger as the 5th ok? so you guys know whenever i say 1st finger 2nd finger and etc because i simply don't know all their names lol...
ok.. when i play ... i use only my 4th finger to press the keyboard.. yes you're right only 1 finger?! people always ask HOW THE FUCK can you actually play by using 1 finger? Honestly, I don't know.. even when i type.. only 1 finger on my left hand is doing the job.. the reason i made this thread is to learn from others.... i'll basically explain how i press when i play..
when i attack:
1a2a3a4a(all 4th finger)
when i build 4sz5sz6sz(all jobs done by 4th finger) yes.. i starting to have problem when i press 7sz8sz simply because the keys are too far away..
i know most ppl play with 2 fingers or 3... i really need to change this habit.... i'll show you whats my problem in late game when my fingers fucked me up
Replay will be uploaded soon..
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Belgium9946 Posts
hmm do you type with 2 fingers then? i use my entire hand for playing bw and couldnt imagine playing with one finger
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Norway28609 Posts
I use every finger on my left hand for 1a2a3a4a5a6a7a I start out with middle+ring on 1a2a then index+ring for 3a4a5a and index+pinky for 6a7a stuff like 4sh5sh6sh7sh is middle+ring+index 4sz5sz is middle+ring+pinky, if I go 6sz I end up pressing 6 with index instead.
thumb mostly just used for space hotkey units/buildings with pinky+number
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ive got a vod of Xellos keyboard view while he plays
he uses all 4 fingers every second and his pinky to press Ctrl
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I can type very fast with two hands but that's because i use multiple fingers on right hand but i still use 1 finger on left hand.....
btw which finger is pinky/ring/index? pelase explain to me by calling thumb as the 5th finger. thanks..
i guess my problem is because i didn't learn how to type when i was young i just started it naturally .. did anyone of you have the similiar problem previously and have corrected it?
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Baltimore, USA22251 Posts
On August 08 2006 04:51 Ash wrote: I can type very fast with two hands but that's because i use multiple fingers on right hand but i still use 1 finger on left hand.....
btw which finger is pinky/ring/index? pelase explain to me by calling thumb as 1st finger. thanks..
Well... if thumb = 1st finger, then it's thumb, index finger, middle finger, ring finger, and pinky
How can you use all the fingers on one hand and not the other? -_-;
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On August 08 2006 04:52 EvilTeletubby wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2006 04:51 Ash wrote: I can type very fast with two hands but that's because i use multiple fingers on right hand but i still use 1 finger on left hand.....
btw which finger is pinky/ring/index? pelase explain to me by calling thumb as 1st finger. thanks.. Well... if thumb = 1st finger, then it's thumb, index finger, middle finger, ring finger, and pinky How can you use all the fingers on one hand and not the other? -_-;
ok thanks .. to correct what i've just said... when i type... err let's say "STARCRAFT" i press all the keys using index finger... when i type "POWER" i press P-using middle O-using index WER-using index(left)
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Baltimore, USA22251 Posts
On August 08 2006 04:56 Ash wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2006 04:52 EvilTeletubby wrote:On August 08 2006 04:51 Ash wrote: I can type very fast with two hands but that's because i use multiple fingers on right hand but i still use 1 finger on left hand.....
btw which finger is pinky/ring/index? pelase explain to me by calling thumb as 1st finger. thanks.. Well... if thumb = 1st finger, then it's thumb, index finger, middle finger, ring finger, and pinky How can you use all the fingers on one hand and not the other? -_-; ok thanks .. to correct what i've just said... when i type... err let's say "STARCRAFT" i press all the keys using index finger... when i type "POWER" i press P-using middle O-using index WER-using index(left)
Yeah that's about what I figured you meant... that's just wierd. I've never heard of one hand being able to type, and the other not.
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On August 08 2006 04:58 EvilTeletubby wrote:Yeah that's about what I figured you meant... that's just wierd. I've never heard of one hand being able to type, and the other not. 
hehe it's not that i cant.. it's just that i'm used to it or you can call it a habit? i didn't learn how to type when i started to use computers.. i just learnt it myself naturally.. so im trying to ask others how they play and i try to follow their way etc etc...
btw, is it only me or the ring fingers are extremely "hard" to use.. they don't function like other fingers...
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Baltimore, USA22251 Posts
On August 08 2006 05:00 Ash wrote: hehe it's not that i cant.. it's just that i'm used to it or you can call it a habit? i didn't learn how to type when i started to use computers.. i just learnt it myself naturally.. so im trying to ask others how they play and i try to follow their way etc etc...
Yeah, I know what you mean. I guess the only way is to force yourself to use other fingers... probably going to feel wierd at first if you're really used to using only one. Good luck with that. ^_^
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i dont use my 2nd finger...
i use the little finger for controling ctrl key ... my 3rd finger is the number key finger, my 4th finger is the action key finger (sometimes not for keys like 'a' because 1a is a lot shorter with 3rd finger then 3rd finger / 4th finger combo...) and for keys like p or ctrl 8,9,0 i use my 5th finger (thumb)
so i dont use my 2nd finger cause it sucks 
i have no feeling in this finger and never use it for anything. if i have to decide which finger somebody should cut away from my hand i would take this one -,-
only usage is for rings (ring finger) but i wear no jewelry and i won't marry any time cause living for the day rocks
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Baltimore, USA22251 Posts
On August 08 2006 05:12 Selector wrote:so i dont use my 2nd finger cause it sucks 
I find use for my ring finger doing 1a2a3a4a5a6a
using ring finger to hit the 'a' key... I dunno how you can use middle finger more comfortably since it's so much longer.
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i use them all , but not my 5th. your first is very important for ctrl and when i attack it's : 1a (two) 2a (three and two) 3a(three and two) 4a(four and two) and so on with (four)
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this im getting confused now.. please everyone.. if you're going to call your finger as "1st/2nd/3rd/4th/5th" please start by calling thumb finger as first okay? thanks :D
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in Turkey City Konya .there is a internet café called STARCRAFT the owner of this int café plays 2v2 all day long he has 5-6 accounts total over 10000 matches his age is over 30 .he doesnt watch reps . so he plays freestyle . he has avg 100 apm now it commes he has only 1 arm the right one . no left arm . he plays so fast i wonder everytime . cuz i make only 130 avg apm with 2 arms .
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United Arab Emirates5091 Posts
On August 08 2006 05:29 zir_green wrote: in Turkey City Konya .there is a internet café called STARCRAFT the owner of this int café plays 2v2 all day long he has 5-6 accounts total over 10000 matches his age is over 30 .he doesnt watch reps . so he plays freestyle . he has avg 100 apm now it commes he has only 1 arm the right one . no left arm . he plays so fast i wonder everytime . cuz i make only 130 avg apm with 2 arms . wow thats pretty damn awesome.
yea i use all fingers, pinky for ctrl and thumb for space. normally listen to the units saying some shit then space to go there...
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pinky for CTRL me also but for 1-2-3-4-5-6-7 for -8-9-0 i use the right CTRL use units on hotkeys 8-9-0 and give atack with (P)atrol
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On August 08 2006 05:29 zir_green wrote: in Turkey City Konya .there is a internet café called STARCRAFT the owner of this int café plays 2v2 all day long he has 5-6 accounts total over 10000 matches his age is over 30 .he doesnt watch reps . so he plays freestyle . he has avg 100 apm now it commes he has only 1 arm the right one . no left arm . he plays so fast i wonder everytime . cuz i make only 130 avg apm with 2 arms . 100apm with one hand isn't really that fast at all, i could probably get 140 with mouse only, and + 100 if i use both hands.. as your speed develops you notice 200apm + isn't really that fast at all..
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wtf overkill edit: For 1a2a3a4a5a6a7a8a9a0a 1= 3rd finger 6= 2nd finger i use my 5th or "pinky" 2= 3rd finger 7= 2nd finger finger for hitting 'a' & 3= 2nd finger 8= 1st finger crtl. 4= 2nd finger 9= 1st finger i use my 1st finger or 5= 2nd finger 0= 1st finger "thumb" for hitting space.
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wow it seems like everyone does it differently than me. I do
1a (two and one) 2a (two and one) 3a (three and one) 4a-8a(four and one) 9a0a(five and one)
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my way is the best1a2a3a4a5a6a7a8a9a0^^
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Well, when I play, I use all my fingers, wheter is to macro units, or to move units or anything, I have one problem though, I can't use my thumb for shit, since my hand is kind of small, it is kind of hard for me to use it, but I have got used to play without it so, it is ok ;p.
1a with ring finger (yes the 1 and a) 2a3a4a with midle+ring 5a6a7a8a9a0a with index and pinky.
Setting control groups, depends on the number, but it always with pinky+some finger. ;P
1a2a3a4a5a6a7a8a98a9a0a
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1 is Pinky, 5 is thumb
1a (3,2) 2a (3,2) 3a (4,2) 4a (4,2) 5a (4,2) 6a (4,1) 7a (4,1) I cant use 8a 9a and 0a very well because my hand doesnt stretch that long. So they are set to things like comsat
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Washington, D.C9933 Posts
practice typing properly first learn how to use fingers like your ring finger. not only will your words per minute go up drastically, but you will also be able to translate this speed to hotkeying.
in case you don't know how just google "how to type" or something along those lines.
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Like you dude. Only 4th on keyboard. My APM is like 90-100. Once I can perfectly know the keyboard without looking, might just try other fingers ^^
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strangely i don't use my pinky finger for hotkeys, I only use it when i type.
I highly suggest everyone else to do the same. The pinky finger is not designed to be durable, it cannot handle the rigorous apm spam that other fingers are capable of (unless you are a low 30 apm user like CTStalker).
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Its best to use all fingers for typing speed if you can, so I think it makes the most sense to use all fingers for sc too.
Somewhat intresting how many people dont use thumb. Pinkey i can understand because its a weaker finger and people dont want to go though the trouble of using it in the first place. If done well using thumb for "a" certainly seems faster then usign another finger for a, as it frees up fingers and seems more convient for hand shape. Also thumb for "ctrl" makes more sense to me as one's hand remains slanted toward the screen, not away like ctrl does.
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thumb for ctrl? only if you are left handed. pinky can be used for crtl with much more speed + gosuness
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On August 08 2006 07:37 SpaCe)Ment-rA wrote: Like you dude. Only 4th on keyboard. My APM is like 90-100. Once I can perfectly know the keyboard without looking, might just try other fingers ^^
lol i have 200+ apm O_O and i can type on a keyboard without looking at it
oh well i use thumb for ctrl too
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Norway28609 Posts
erm the only way using thumb for "a" makes any kind of sense at all is if you're using the left hand on your mouse. which is normally only done by left handed people. (and naz. )
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Well... if thumb = 1st finger, then it's thumb, index finger, middle finger, ring finger, and pinky
Here are my playing style: I use 1234567 for hatcherys and 09876 for units. In early game I use F2 and F3 on my two minerals lines so if someone do a reaver drop I could fast take my drones from danger. F4 are for there I have my rally point. Late game I have them on my exps that dont have any hotkey
I use all fingers on my left hand when I play. In the beging I had an start postion so it sould be easier to find all buttons. Pinky on Q, ring on W, middle E, index on R and thumb on B. I also taked away two buttons between Right Ctrl and Alt Gr, I lay my thumb in that space and then it is really easy to find 09876 with my fingers.
If we say that I have two modes then I plays we could say that then I use hotkeys 1234567 it is macro mode and 09876 are micro mode.
In macro mode pinky are for the button over Ctrl (dont know what it is called) Ring finger are for 1 Q A and W. Middel finger are for E S Z and 2. Index finger are for R F G H N U M I 3 4 5 6 and 7. Thumb are for B V and C I press on Ctrl with my left side of my left hand
In micro mode Pinky are for 5 6 7 U and H. Ring finger are for 8 and I Middel finger are for 9 Index finger are for 0 P and L Thumb for Ctrl.
Before I hurt my hands I had an APM on 190 to 240
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On August 08 2006 08:24 Ash wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2006 07:37 SpaCe)Ment-rA wrote: Like you dude. Only 4th on keyboard. My APM is like 90-100. Once I can perfectly know the keyboard without looking, might just try other fingers ^^ lol i have 200+ apm O_O and i can type on a keyboard without looking at it oh well i use thumb for ctrl too
Yeah, but I can't.
"Once I can perfectly..."
Can't yet
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;O ok :D
That thing is fucking weird, it also teaches you how to sit rofl~
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dling-.-
fun for a one time use, its already deleted o.oV
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... I use my pinky(1st) for shift, caps (AZERTY - french keyboard need caps to get hotkey >.<; , Ring finger(2nd) for like hotkeys well actually I basically do what Xellos does - use eveyr single finger you have ... ofc 1 im no as good as xellos - never will be, 2 im not korean so already hes faster than me and well having a 3rd point sounds better but I cant find 1 so ill just say and 3;..
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I am a zerg user as well but I use all of my left hand for hotkeys. I'll explain my hotkeys first
1 = pinky 2 = ring 3 = middle 4 = ring 5 = thumb Beginning game: 1 = overlord (first finger) 2 = drone building about to hatch (second finger) 5 = hatch (4th finger)
Later in the game: 1 2 3 4 = units (1st 2nd 3rd 4th fingers) 5 - 0 = hatches (all 4th fingers)
however when i build as in 5sz6sz7sz8sz9sz0sz i use 4th finger for hatch, second finger for s, first finger for z. This differs from mutas /hydras however I use my 4th finger for both hatch and the m/h because obviously my pinky isn't going to reach that far.
My thumb i rarely ever use for spacebar, as we do have the f2 f3 f4 keys for macroing and my rally collection. Mmm I am a 350 apm user and I cannot imagine you using one hand and getting more than 80 apm.
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I welcome everyone to try this:
First rest on 1-2-3 with ring-middle-index. 1) go 1a2a3a4a5a6a, using thumb for a 2) go 1a2a3a4a5a6a, using ring for a. I think its clear which is faster as long as you lift your wrist off of the desk past the hight of the keyboard.
Try this as well: 1) 1a2a3a, then ctrl with pinkey or pinky join+123 2) 1a2a3a, then ctrl with thumb joint+123 Again, its clear which is fastest as long as your wrist is lifted up high enough.
So, I'm guessing its the lifting your wrist up thing that many of you guys dont do. Sure, using pinkey for ctrl and finger for a makes more sense if you keep wrist down. But, does keeping your wrist down make more sense?
edit- assuing your thumb is not a fat immoible sausage. :p
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Beginning of game: 1 on shift 2 on A 3 on S 4 on D 5 on space.
Omg...this gonna be hard to explain..here we go. At attack: Finger 2 at 1,A. Finger 3 AND Finger 2 at A. Finger 3 at 3 AND Finger 2 at A. Then...Finger 4 at 4 and finger 2 at A. Same to 5A. But after that I move the hand so Finger 4 is at 6 then finger 1 moves from Shift to A. and it goes up..
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I use all 4 fingers of my left hand. When I play terran and i'm building marines I use my thumb.
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It really doesn't really matter what fingers you use to attack as long as it's the MOST effective for you. but some of these here are not as effective but i'm not going to say anything =). the most effective for me and the fastest would probably be (oh and i'm a terran user):
1a: pinky/ring 2a: pinky/ring 3a: pinky/ring 4a: pinky/middle 5a: pinky/index 6a: pinky/index 7a: pinky/index 8a: pinky/index 9a: pinky/index 0a: pinky/index
ctrl 1: palm/ring ctrl 2: palm/middle ctrl 3: palm/index ctrl 4: palm/index ctrl 5: palm/index ctrl 6: palm/index ctrl 7: pinky/thumb ctrl 8: pinky/thumb ctrl 9: pinky/thumb ctrl 0: pinky/right hand
*Oh and remember to tilt your keyboard more on the left side up so that it's even more faster and easier to press the keys.
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Baltimore, USA22251 Posts
I can't use my thumb for anything but the space bar... it's too big and inaccurate otherwise.
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I almost always use my ring finger to hit a and my other fingers cycle through the numbers. I never use my left pinky though.
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I do the same thing as you Ash. I use my "forth finger" which is your index finger for 1a2a3a4a5a. Usually I don't need to go beyond 6a so that works fine. You need to use other fingers though if you want to do like 0sz9sz8sz7sz.
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I use my thumb very little, but the other 4 get used. I think I do it different from some in that I keep my hand very stationary, only moving it when I absolutely have to. Pinky generally stays on left-ctrl the whole time.
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