First and foremost I want to get to Gambit's Cup...
Gambit's Cup Round 2 will be starting in the new year with a $1000 Winner takes all prize pool. The tournament will be hosted by LRM)nOoNe. Given nOoNe's position on team LRM), there will be an appeal process in which I can overthrow a ruling, however... It's not likely to happen because I have full confidence in nOoNe's ability to be unbiased.
DisclaimerI know the changes to euro aren't fair, or balanced or anything of the sort, it is not intended to be.
Second, Euro Open Championships is now Euro Closed Championships. The process will be invite only. The primary reason for this is anger management issues on my part, I just really don't feel like dealing with most of the community, yet I don't want to disappoint the people I do like, thus a select few will be chosen to participate. Chosen players may be asked to play a qualifier depending on the amount of players chosen from their country... If this is already done by feat of Euro's first qualifier this weekend, then those players will be selected of the chosen ones, no additional qualifier required.
If your name doesn't appear, then it is likely that I don't really like you or your skill level simply won't compare to that of the people in the tournament i.e. Shimy (Or I forgot you... Either way).
Listed players must confirm attendance before the new year.
Russia reps)Plumbum -C
Hungary SiR.Ace -C sas.Skzlime -C
United States Michael[PaiN] -C LRM)Game -C
Bulgaria (Decided by QF1) LRM)TechnicS -C Injo INF3CTED
Prize: $2000/$500 + $75 participation prizes. Location will be moved to Europe.
Players will receive their travel info, confirmation numbers and flight/train/bus tickets within 2-3 weeks of confirmation of attendance and qualification. Players residing outside of Europe's open border countries must have passport or travel visa.
There is also a website in the works where you will be able to easier track this tournament. I will not be posting updates on TL once that is up... It should be fairly soon.
Automatically Seeded: SiR.Ace, LRM)Game
These seeds leave 6 remaining seats at the LAN. The qualifier will go as such: Round 1 January 6th, 19CET
Chosen players may be asked to play a qualifier depending on the amount of players chosen from their country... If this is already done by feat of Euro's first qualifier this weekend, then those players will be selected of the chosen ones, no additional qualifier required.
Our qualifiers are done. So it's over and
Back up players for Qualification in order of importance
On December 10 2012 14:28 ninazerg wrote: I propose to invite dRaW from North America, so he can hang out with his Russian homies and maybe smoke a little bit.
I gotta say this is a much better format tbh. Everyone knows the skillful players in the scene, so why bothering with an open qualifier, if you just can invite the best people. Also the shrinking of the prizepool aint that bad as well imho, since you can make more events in more places (also travel, venue, hosting expenses are quite high even for only 8 people). But I do not like that Lower bracket is only Bo1. Please make it at least Bo3. Even if you go for just one day, you will have plenty of time. I really hope everything runs smooth and that you make more of this tours.
This thread is a upward trend Eywa-. Stay like this and maybe the problems in the community with you will eventually fade out after 2 or 3 events. For myself, I will be already really really thankful if even this first event will be successful.
Any information about livecast? Or will you announce that seperatly with the venue details? Will there be live admins or will you be attending?
On December 10 2012 16:59 Shotcoder wrote: Why are both LRM)Game and SiR.Ace in the Double Elimination Bracket?
Yeah, even though i like both, why :D?
I confirm.
Probably one NA player and one EU player. Even if I gotta say that you should have taken Michael for NA and Sziky for EU. For me undoubtful the best players of their region. Anyways, we will see how it goes.
On December 10 2012 16:59 Shotcoder wrote: Why are both LRM)Game and SiR.Ace in the Double Elimination Bracket?
EDIT: This list of back-ups in order of importance are hilarious. Sziky is so far down, and why the hell is Advokate even o0n the list?
EDIT2: Hockey card sales go bad to kill the prize pool that much?
The reason Game and Ace are chosen to be seeded in is mostly because, I'll likely be asking them to do a couple things at the event itself... And I know these are two people I can trust.
Never took place, I decided not to do it because I didn't feel it was worth my time.
On December 10 2012 18:22 ihufa wrote: This is amazing, why are some people being whiny little cunts?
Nah it's not amazing, the prize pool is dwindled. Random individuals of lesser skill than the best in the region are getting free rides because of "friends". And The community that was so fucking upset at a $38k prizepool is fucking ecstatic over less than 10% of that money.
Whiny little cunt? I stuck my neck out for him staking my reputation as a sponsor and a player. I should have known better when $38k was announced and he asked me to help. He repays me with shitty organization and the community repays this shitty organization with wild fervor because everyone is too damn lazy to take the time to do it themselves. So glad I'm done with this game, this kind of shit is a joke.
On December 10 2012 16:59 Shotcoder wrote: Why are both LRM)Game and SiR.Ace in the Double Elimination Bracket?
EDIT: This list of back-ups in order of importance are hilarious. Sziky is so far down, and why the hell is Advokate even o0n the list?
EDIT2: Hockey card sales go bad to kill the prize pool that much?
The reason Game and Ace are chosen to be seeded in is mostly because, I'll likely be asking them to do a couple things at the event itself... And I know these are two people I can trust.
Never took place, I decided not to do it because I didn't feel it was worth my time.
really dont know if Ace is people that u can trust
anyway all is amazing, missing some of my favorite players but is good to see this happening
This looks like it will be really good to watch! I just have a few questions - Why is LRM)Madinho not included? Will Elegant still be casting? and why oh WHY is Sziky not going?? He is the best, and we all want to see him play! If he can't go then ok, but please invite him!
Eywa i think you'd win the new Random StarLeague pretty EZ ^^ i kinda don't really know what's up but confirm i guess? i really want to beat eon
a lot of players seem to be missing from the qualifiacion process and i'm not too sure why i'm in but i'll be sure to play more than 5 games/week to prepare :3
On December 10 2012 18:22 ihufa wrote: This is amazing, why are some people being whiny little cunts?
The tournament is cool, sure. It's more the fact that Eywa cancelled the 38k tour he was going to host because he "doesn't feel like dealing with most of the community" and he "didn't feel it was worth my time". False promises suck, big false promises suck more.
Where is motherfuckin GLow`mca64? I spent two days waiting for players and you premium players who doeasnt gives a fuck for EUR LAN? Only one player came and i won this game! WTF!!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
On December 10 2012 20:11 mca64[KDV] wrote: Where is motherfuckin GLow`mca64? I spent two days waiting for players and you premium players who doeasnt gives a fuck for EUR LAN? Only one player came and i won this game! WTF!!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
loool, are you stupid? If you want to take part in this tour, dont post any shit about some matches or about BW, it does not matter, better add eywa in skype and try to become best friends, then you will be seeded in semifinals.
On December 10 2012 20:11 mca64[KDV] wrote: Where is motherfuckin GLow`mca64? I spent two days waiting for players and you premium players who doeasnt gives a fuck for EUR LAN? Only one player came and i won this game! WTF!!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
loool, are you stupid? If you want to take part in this tour, dont post any shit about some matches or about BW, it does not matter, better add eywa is skype and try to become best friends, then you will be seeded in semifinals.
this is not true... im not eywa best friend for example
On December 10 2012 20:11 mca64[KDV] wrote: Where is motherfuckin GLow`mca64? I spent two days waiting for players and you premium players who doeasnt gives a fuck for EUR LAN? Only one player came and i won this game! WTF!!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
loool, are you stupid? If you want to take part in this tour, dont post any shit about some matches or about BW, it does not matter, better add eywa in skype and try to become best friends, then you will be seeded in semifinals.
same thing told me eonzerg when i posted topic about Bibane was playin for Rush cause i was banned for that from ASL2 tour and he was like "it would be better for you to be quiet and dont make conflict with Eywa and others"
On December 10 2012 20:11 mca64[KDV] wrote: Where is motherfuckin GLow`mca64? I spent two days waiting for players and you premium players who doeasnt gives a fuck for EUR LAN? Only one player came and i won this game! WTF!!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
loool, are you stupid? If you want to take part in this tour, dont post any shit about some matches or about BW, it does not matter, better add eywa in skype and try to become best friends, then you will be seeded in semifinals.
same thing told me eonzerg when i posted topic about Bibane was playin for Rush cause i was banned for that from ASL2 tour and he was like "it would be better for you to be quiet and dont make conflict with Eywa and others"
thats all so ridic obv. And everyone here is so tolerate I am shocked.
On December 10 2012 20:11 mca64[KDV] wrote: Where is motherfuckin GLow`mca64? I spent two days waiting for players and you premium players who doeasnt gives a fuck for EUR LAN? Only one player came and i won this game! WTF!!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
loool, are you stupid? If you want to take part in this tour, dont post any shit about some matches or about BW, it does not matter, better add eywa in skype and try to become best friends, then you will be seeded in semifinals.
same thing told me eonzerg when i posted topic about Bibane was playin for Rush cause i was banned for that from ASL2 tour and he was like "it would be better for you to be quiet and dont make conflict with Eywa and others"
thats all so ridic obv. And everyone here is so tolerate I am shocked.
i suggest to hire russian mafia boss aka yoda to clean this mess! AK47 should be good for this job
In my opinion it seems to be a little bit ridicolous. You should not change seeds granting formula in the middle of tournament, it's just so unfair for those, who signed in for qualification. Eywa, if you don't have time for organisation, then find people for help or just claim it from start and grant seeds to choosen by you players. No offence, but this situation really looks bad.
Man, I'm not going to sit here and tell you how to run your tournament, but this is frankly pretty confusing.
How did you go from,
On November 15 2012 23:27 Eywa- wrote: Nononono, you got it wrong. If it were designed as such, it would be imbalanced and unfair. This format is designed so that the best players move to the LAN.
to,
On December 10 2012 12:27 Eywa- wrote: Disclaimer: I know the changes to euro aren't fair, or balanced or anything of the sort, it is not intended to be.
I was only more bewildered when I got to this stuff:
On December 10 2012 17:42 Eywa- wrote: The reason Game and Ace are chosen to be seeded in is mostly because, I'll likely be asking them to do a couple things at the event itself... And I know these are two people I can trust.
On December 08 2012 22:45 Eywa- wrote: Sorry for my lack of interest in Brood War everyone, I kind of assumed that people would band together more to make this event work.
I'll pretty readily admit that I've never organised a tournament, but this is just really weird.
I have a question regarding the qualifier - since on 7-8th of December a lot of young people in Bulgaria usually have some plans to go out of town to celebrate (mostly students), some deciding (regarding 2nd place of the group) games weren't played. The following matches were not played
InJo vs ZergbOy INF3CTED vs ZergbOy Nichy vs ZergbOy Nichy vs INF Nichy vs TheMarine Nichy vs InjO
Nichy and TheMarine are the least favoured of those. ZergbOy is not famous with his zvz, but is good at his zvp. Thus there was a good chance INF3CTED, ZergbOy and InJo could have been tied with a 5-2 score for the 2nd place in the group. Should I tell them to play all their matches that are left until some date and if tied to replay until someone beats the other two? Or should it stay InJo as 2nd?
On December 10 2012 18:22 ihufa wrote: This is amazing, why are some people being whiny little cunts?
Nah it's not amazing, the prize pool is dwindled. Random individuals of lesser skill than the best in the region are getting free rides because of "friends". And The community that was so fucking upset at a $38k prizepool is fucking ecstatic over less than 10% of that money.
Whiny little cunt? I stuck my neck out for him staking my reputation as a sponsor and a player. I should have known better when $38k was announced and he asked me to help. He repays me with shitty organization and the community repays this shitty organization with wild fervor because everyone is too damn lazy to take the time to do it themselves. So glad I'm done with this game, this kind of shit is a joke.
The original tournament is still possible, it always has been just a matter of getting a few extra hands. I put forth the idea thinking that it wouldn't be too difficult to get 1-2 extra people to assist. Running a fundraiser of that size with 2 people is not feasible without me investing far more time than I'd like to. Also, everyone whom I had asked to help on that particular project rejected... Like, I can still coordinate everything for a fundraiser + Tournament of that magnitude, but I'm not going to do any of the work for it (i.e. If a bunch of people banded together and decided to do it, I can tell them what they need to do).
On December 10 2012 19:06 Poetic[AoV] wrote: This looks like it will be really good to watch! I just have a few questions - Why is LRM)Madinho not included? Will Elegant still be casting? and why oh WHY is Sziky not going?? He is the best, and we all want to see him play! If he can't go then ok, but please invite him!
I honestly just didn't think of Mad... No other reason.
I hope so... Though he's rarely around to check on.
;; If there is enough demand to see Sziky, I'll move him to the top of the backup list.
I'm insulted you honestly think you can say "I was going to run a $38k tournament but had to scale it down to $2k because I couldn't find an extra person" and have people believe you.
On December 10 2012 18:22 ihufa wrote: This is amazing, why are some people being whiny little cunts?
The tournament is cool, sure. It's more the fact that Eywa cancelled the 38k tour he was going to host because he "doesn't feel like dealing with most of the community" and he "didn't feel it was worth my time". False promises suck, big false promises suck more.
I agree, though if community members feel like picking it up, I will gladly tell them about what the plan was in detail and guide them through it (since I've done this for personal gain before - So I know very well what I'm doing).
The original tournament is still possible, it always has been just a matter of getting a few extra hands. I put forth the idea thinking that it wouldn't be too difficult to get 1-2 extra people to assist. Running a fundraiser of that size with 2 people is not feasible without me investing far more time than I'd like to. Also, everyone whom I had asked to help on that particular project rejected... Like, I can still coordinate everything for a fundraiser + Tournament of that magnitude, but I'm not going to do any of the work for it (i.e. If a bunch of people banded together and decided to do it, I can tell them what they need to do).
If that's true, i'm sure that there are people who want to help in this project, lets start searching people who would like to help? I saw in topics many guys who offered their time and help o_o
Eywa: Could just make a official thread, when you say all info that you search help?
On December 10 2012 23:02 heyoka wrote: I'm insulted you honestly think you can say "I was going to run a $38k tournament but had to scale it down to $2k because I couldn't find an extra person" and have people believe you.
Like I said, I'm still willing to work on it if there area people who will actually do work for it.
The original tournament is still possible, it always has been just a matter of getting a few extra hands. I put forth the idea thinking that it wouldn't be too difficult to get 1-2 extra people to assist. Running a fundraiser of that size with 2 people is not feasible without me investing far more time than I'd like to. Also, everyone whom I had asked to help on that particular project rejected... Like, I can still coordinate everything for a fundraiser + Tournament of that magnitude, but I'm not going to do any of the work for it (i.e. If a bunch of people banded together and decided to do it, I can tell them what they need to do).
If that's true, i'm sure that there are people who want to help in this project, lets start searching people who would like to help? I saw in topics many guys who offered their time and help o_o
Eywa: Could just make a official thread, when you say all info that you search help?
Generally, people offer help and then claim that what is asked for isn't the type of thing they want to help with. Also, I've made 2 threads of the sort (one was closed due to me offering to give them a % of what they earn).
On December 10 2012 23:07 Kiante wrote: why not take like, 1k of the prize pool and hire some people to help you run it?
Because you can't offer people jobs on Teamliquid (I tried), violates terms of use and I'm not sure where else to look for north american/english speaking BW nerds.
Eywa- i have another question, this money 38$K or every other amount of it is only dedicated on LAN, or you can(not you, your people) host every other kind of ONLINE tournaments?
On December 10 2012 23:14 trutaCz wrote: Eywa- i have another question, this money 38$K or every other amount of it is only dedicated on LAN, or you can(not you, your people) host every other kind of ONLINE tournaments?
I'll lay out the math... In a more clearly worded thread.
Well that's why there was a lot incomprehensible threads, you dont say it clearly, somehow avoiding important questions. If we do something for broodwar community we need to cooperate each other, to make a big success. I believe you love BW, no way you not because you did many things for BW in past, but really there is no point in this, if you won't cooperate with us, share every information you can, etc..
On December 10 2012 23:14 trutaCz wrote: Eywa- i have another question, this money 38$K or every other amount of it is only dedicated on LAN, or you can(not you, your people) host every other kind of ONLINE tournaments?
I'll lay out the math... In a more clearly worded thread.
I'll lay out the math TrutaCz. He didn't have the money, he still doesn't. the $38k was a lofty goal that was never achieved.
Yea I'm throwing you under the bus now since you've removed me from skype and threw me under the bus with your comment about not having help. I volunteered to you 30-40 hours of my time to complete this fundraising and said Mote was doing the same thing. You said Mote had a high number of venues to Sell these "Hockey cards" and that was the last of it. Wtf were you trying to do with this whole thing? Please, don't say i didn't fucking try and help by saying everyone rejected. I was right the fuck there with you when you proposed the idea.
On December 10 2012 23:14 trutaCz wrote: Eywa- i have another question, this money 38$K or every other amount of it is only dedicated on LAN, or you can(not you, your people) host every other kind of ONLINE tournaments?
I'll lay out the math... In a more clearly worded thread.
I'll lay out the math TrutaCz. He didn't have the money, he still doesn't. the $38k was a lofty goal that was never achieved.
Yea I'm throwing you under the bus now since you've removed me from skype and threw me under the bus with your comment about not having help. I volunteered to you 30-40 hours of my time to complete this fundraising and said Mote was doing the same thing. You said Mote had a high number of venues to Sell these "Hockey cards" and that was the last of it. Wtf were you trying to do with this whole thing? Please, don't say i didn't fucking try and help by saying everyone rejected. I was right the fuck there with you when you proposed the idea.
I removed nearly everyone Brood War related from skype, please don't feel too special.
On December 10 2012 23:14 trutaCz wrote: Eywa- i have another question, this money 38$K or every other amount of it is only dedicated on LAN, or you can(not you, your people) host every other kind of ONLINE tournaments?
I'll lay out the math... In a more clearly worded thread.
I'll lay out the math TrutaCz. He didn't have the money, he still doesn't. the $38k was a lofty goal that was never achieved.
Yea I'm throwing you under the bus now since you've removed me from skype and threw me under the bus with your comment about not having help. I volunteered to you 30-40 hours of my time to complete this fundraising and said Mote was doing the same thing. You said Mote had a high number of venues to Sell these "Hockey cards" and that was the last of it. Wtf were you trying to do with this whole thing? Please, don't say i didn't fucking try and help by saying everyone rejected. I was right the fuck there with you when you proposed the idea.
I removed nearly everyone Brood War related from skype, please don't feel too special.
Completely ignore everything important in my post, like the blatant lies of not having help, sounds like typical Eywa to me.
On December 11 2012 00:57 trutaCz wrote: Well some admin should clean up this trolling comments and ban users for it.
wouldn't that imply closing all of eywa's threads? He just promised money he didn't have and failed to put together any comprehensive attempt at even organizing the thing. His other post in the euroLAN about "sorry I didn't show up, I expected YOU GUYS to run my tour" is completely laughable.
in his other thread in clears it up at the end: "Is it a lot of work? Yes Is Brood War worth it? Not for me, perhaps for someone else though." as much as i appreciate the effort and all the stuff, i dont know why eywa creates so much threads and all this if hits not worth for him. maybe it was just to good to be true.
Is anyone really, truly surprised that the magically promised 38k failed to materialize out of thin air? Because I'm not...
What just completely floors me is the way Eywa is acting so unapologetic through this whole thing.... heyoka summed it up pretty well--the tone and content of his posts considering the magnitude of his fuckup is quite simply offensive.
On December 10 2012 18:22 ihufa wrote: This is amazing, why are some people being whiny little cunts?
The tournament is cool, sure. It's more the fact that Eywa cancelled the 38k tour he was going to host because he "doesn't feel like dealing with most of the community" and he "didn't feel it was worth my time". False promises suck, big false promises suck more.
I agree, though if community members feel like picking it up, I will gladly tell them about what the plan was in detail and guide them through it (since I've done this for personal gain before - So I know very well what I'm doing).
Better don't do it. You don't know what to do else you would do this before people started complaining or try to improve organization at least. Maybe you want to copy plan which I sent you? Don't do it too because it's not yours.
Dunno why you guys thought Eywa was really credible with such a huge prize pool. Even without the fact that he is a slightly shady poster on TL. It also doesn't help that you said Game and Ace are trustworthy friends -_-
Noone has to believe eywa. in case he would give me 200$ for traveling, i'd travel to LAN place, in case nothing would happen there, i'd have a great trip on that place. I doubt he'd just trolling us
So... despite the cancelling of the open EuroLan (no I'm not dismissing this as something small), there is good news in this post. That LAN will cost a fortune to bring all the players together. I don't know the exact numbers on it, but traveling from the USA to anywhere in Europe besides England is quite a bit of money without the hotel stay or food costs. Having no LAN is his decision to make, unfortunately it's disappointing for a lot of people in this community. Fortunately however, he exponentially raised by his own merit the prize of GC R2 and is going to spend a lot of money on a LAN just to have something amazing for BW. I like how you guys are treating an announcement thread of proportions not seen since TSL2 as if Eywa- just killed each and everyone of your mothers.
On December 11 2012 05:03 Kiante wrote: Positive post coming from the dude who gets a free ride into the quarter finals and lan event.
colour me surprised.
oh wait
Totally unrelated. GC has been the best CL I've played in since WGTCL, and it has money. Of course I'm excited about going to Europe, why the hell wouldn't I be? I'm more excited that I'm going to be able to meet guys I've played hundreds of times competitively, some of those games being in Gambit's Cup. Everyone is bashing Eywa- in this thread, my point is to simply acknowledge the good in the post. Hop off Kiante.
On December 11 2012 04:59 Game wrote: So... despite the cancelling of the open EuroLan (no I'm not dismissing this as something small), there is good news in this post. That LAN will cost a fortune to bring all the players together. I don't know the exact numbers on it, but traveling from the USA to anywhere in Europe besides England is quite a bit of money without the hotel stay or food costs. Having no LAN is his decision to make, unfortunately it's disappointing for a lot of people in this community. Fortunately however, he exponentially raised by his own merit the prize of GC R2 and is going to spend a lot of money on a LAN just to have something amazing for BW. I like how you guys are treating an announcement thread of proportions not seen since TSL2 as if Eywa- just killed each and everyone of your mothers.
First of all, it should be "every one", not "everyone". Furthermore, if mothers were slaughtered, there would be shoot-outs in the streets, not forum posts. But since we're using "hyperbole", then this is the biggest scandal to hit BroodWar since Ma Jae Yoon's match-fixing scandal. He lied to everyone in every one of his posts.
I really don't understand why an online qualifier wasn't held or is held at least for 1 or 2 remaining spots. 2 players are crossed out. A lot of people who are really good didn't get a chance which is a shame.
On December 11 2012 05:03 Kiante wrote: Positive post coming from the dude who gets a free ride into the quarter finals and lan event.
colour me surprised.
oh wait
Totally unrelated. GC has been the best CL I've played in since WGTCL, and it has money. Of course I'm excited about going to Europe, why the hell wouldn't I be? I'm more excited that I'm going to be able to meet guys I've played hundreds of times competitively, some of those games being in Gambit's Cup. Everyone is bashing Eywa- in this thread, my point is to simply acknowledge the good in the post. Hop off Kiante.
of eywa wanted people to be excited maybe he shouldn't have promised tournaments he couldn't follow through on.
and since you're trying to compare to TSL2, how many people got seeded directly into the quarter finals of the TSL2?
On July 20 2012 19:59 Eywa- wrote: There's been a lot of talk from Canada that they don't want to play with South America, however, until there are any sign ups at all from either of these areas, this will be ignored entirely. Like I said, Qualifications I set are likely to change pending on sign ups.
nothing was finalized, so we didn't think to start qualification point systems, Dragon and I were looking at possible players from LA+CA and you claim we're all inactive but this is a huge prize pool and likely some of these inactive people might just take a shot at it (which is what I thought we are promoting anyway, increase popularity in BW?)
Anyway, possible Players: Assault, Bizzy, Bibiane, Castro, Cute, Deska, Dinot, Dragon, Draw, Gotunk, Handy, ShuttleDance, Terror, Yan... These are only off the top of my head though, I imagine there are a few others who upon realizing the amount of $ for the tour will probably give it a shot.
Also for the Qualifiers, where do we host it(server)? How do we notify the people of that area there is a qualifier? what do we need to get the qualifier approved? [again you say we have no sign ups but you were not clear at all that we can just get started on these things, ie: if I sign up now, I still have to wait for other people to sign up before I can host any qualifiers...? ]
I think all these questions coming out are really good. If people voice all uncertainties and inconsistencies now, it will be much easier to make a fully rounded and satisfactory plan. Keep them coming
It would be great if "inactive" or very casual players would really step up their game for this. It would also be superb if players on the edge, (C+, possibly slightly intermittently practicing players like myself) would push themselves to a higher standard, and get some new faces at the top. I'm certainly going to try to do so, schedule permitting.
Oh, excellent! I'm glad you're taking this approach to the questions.
Has EywaSC procured the funds for the tournament already, or are the numbers in the original post more of a 'rough estimate'?
On July 20 2012 19:59 Eywa- wrote: There's been a lot of talk from Canada that they don't want to play with South America, however, until there are any sign ups at all from either of these areas, this will be ignored entirely. Like I said, Qualifications I set are likely to change pending on sign ups.
nothing was finalized, so we didn't think to start qualification point systems, Dragon and I were looking at possible players from LA+CA and you claim we're all inactive but this is a huge prize pool and likely some of these inactive people might just take a shot at it (which is what I thought we are promoting anyway, increase popularity in BW?)
Anyway, possible Players: Assault, Bizzy, Bibiane, Castro, Cute, Deska, Dinot, Dragon, Draw, Gotunk, Handy, ShuttleDance, Terror, Yan... These are only off the top of my head though, I imagine there are a few others who upon realizing the amount of $ for the tour will probably give it a shot.
Also for the Qualifiers, where do we host it(server)? How do we notify the people of that area there is a qualifier? what do we need to get the qualifier approved? [again you say we have no sign ups but you were not clear at all that we can just get started on these things, ie: if I sign up now, I still have to wait for other people to sign up before I can host any qualifiers...? ]
I think all these questions coming out are really good. If people voice all uncertainties and inconsistencies now, it will be much easier to make a fully rounded and satisfactory plan. Keep them coming
It would be great if "inactive" or very casual players would really step up their game for this. It would also be superb if players on the edge, (C+, possibly slightly intermittently practicing players like myself) would push themselves to a higher standard, and get some new faces at the top. I'm certainly going to try to do so, schedule permitting.
Oh, excellent! I'm glad you're taking this approach to the questions.
Has EywaSC procured the funds for the tournament already, or are the numbers in the original post more of a 'rough estimate'?
The funds are already locked in for the tournament, it's no estimate.
"THE FUNDS ARE ALREADY LOCKED IN FOR THE TOURNAMENT"
My God.
Still, I was perplexed by some of the odd wording of some of the posts, so I had to ask:
On July 20 2012 19:59 Eywa- wrote: There's been a lot of talk from Canada that they don't want to play with South America, however, until there are any sign ups at all from either of these areas, this will be ignored entirely. Like I said, Qualifications I set are likely to change pending on sign ups.
nothing was finalized, so we didn't think to start qualification point systems, Dragon and I were looking at possible players from LA+CA and you claim we're all inactive but this is a huge prize pool and likely some of these inactive people might just take a shot at it (which is what I thought we are promoting anyway, increase popularity in BW?)
Anyway, possible Players: Assault, Bizzy, Bibiane, Castro, Cute, Deska, Dinot, Dragon, Draw, Gotunk, Handy, ShuttleDance, Terror, Yan... These are only off the top of my head though, I imagine there are a few others who upon realizing the amount of $ for the tour will probably give it a shot.
Also for the Qualifiers, where do we host it(server)? How do we notify the people of that area there is a qualifier? what do we need to get the qualifier approved? [again you say we have no sign ups but you were not clear at all that we can just get started on these things, ie: if I sign up now, I still have to wait for other people to sign up before I can host any qualifiers...? ]
I think all these questions coming out are really good. If people voice all uncertainties and inconsistencies now, it will be much easier to make a fully rounded and satisfactory plan. Keep them coming
It would be great if "inactive" or very casual players would really step up their game for this. It would also be superb if players on the edge, (C+, possibly slightly intermittently practicing players like myself) would push themselves to a higher standard, and get some new faces at the top. I'm certainly going to try to do so, schedule permitting.
Oh, excellent! I'm glad you're taking this approach to the questions.
Has EywaSC procured the funds for the tournament already, or are the numbers in the original post more of a 'rough estimate'?
The funds are already locked in for the tournament, it's no estimate.
The money has been gathered through a team effort of purchasing and manufacturing product, organizing and packaging said product and redistributing it for sale at a local level. So the funding comes from the efforts of myself, Eywa and Elegant. We are no saying you don't need to know where the money is coming from, we are just withholding information for our fundraising benefits (ie if we raised this kind of money with it what's stopping TL users from repeating and reducing the "profit" margin[I use profit loosely here because the fund go back toward more product or into tournament funding]).
You've stated that Noise is the primary fundraiser for this project. If the funds are already "locked in" like you've said, why did Noise express concerns about revealing the source of the project's income being jeopardized by copycats following the same business model? That sounds to me like the Hockey Cards haven't been sold yet, but maybe I'm misunderstanding?
On July 20 2012 19:59 Eywa- wrote: There's been a lot of talk from Canada that they don't want to play with South America, however, until there are any sign ups at all from either of these areas, this will be ignored entirely. Like I said, Qualifications I set are likely to change pending on sign ups.
nothing was finalized, so we didn't think to start qualification point systems, Dragon and I were looking at possible players from LA+CA and you claim we're all inactive but this is a huge prize pool and likely some of these inactive people might just take a shot at it (which is what I thought we are promoting anyway, increase popularity in BW?)
Anyway, possible Players: Assault, Bizzy, Bibiane, Castro, Cute, Deska, Dinot, Dragon, Draw, Gotunk, Handy, ShuttleDance, Terror, Yan... These are only off the top of my head though, I imagine there are a few others who upon realizing the amount of $ for the tour will probably give it a shot.
Also for the Qualifiers, where do we host it(server)? How do we notify the people of that area there is a qualifier? what do we need to get the qualifier approved? [again you say we have no sign ups but you were not clear at all that we can just get started on these things, ie: if I sign up now, I still have to wait for other people to sign up before I can host any qualifiers...? ]
I think all these questions coming out are really good. If people voice all uncertainties and inconsistencies now, it will be much easier to make a fully rounded and satisfactory plan. Keep them coming
It would be great if "inactive" or very casual players would really step up their game for this. It would also be superb if players on the edge, (C+, possibly slightly intermittently practicing players like myself) would push themselves to a higher standard, and get some new faces at the top. I'm certainly going to try to do so, schedule permitting.
Oh, excellent! I'm glad you're taking this approach to the questions.
Has EywaSC procured the funds for the tournament already, or are the numbers in the original post more of a 'rough estimate'?
The funds are already locked in for the tournament, it's no estimate.
Well, then I'm confused. Let me explain.
On July 19 2012 13:03 Shotcoder wrote:
The money has been gathered through a team effort of purchasing and manufacturing product, organizing and packaging said product and redistributing it for sale at a local level. So the funding comes from the efforts of myself, Eywa and Elegant. We are no saying you don't need to know where the money is coming from, we are just withholding information for our fundraising benefits (ie if we raised this kind of money with it what's stopping TL users from repeating and reducing the "profit" margin[I use profit loosely here because the fund go back toward more product or into tournament funding]).
You've stated that Noise is the primary fundraiser for this project. If the funds are already "locked in" like you've said, why did Noise express concerns about revealing the source of the project's income being jeopardized by copycats following the same business model? That sounds to me like the Hockey Cards haven't been sold yet, but maybe I'm misunderstanding?
I don't see what you're trying to get that or where it says that in his post, obviously, anything can be interpreted and he knows that I don't talk much about my planning, i.e. you didn't hear about this event till I posted it, I try to perfect the product and not the speech. If you get caught up on the speech, then you're likely on the wrong track.
Really? I was on the wrong track?
Of course, yes, I must've been. Geez, how could I have been so skeptical against such an awesome kick-ass event?
On July 21 2012 10:42 BWalma wrote: I can see where a lot of people are getting skeptical. Might I suggest something. I've been a caster for about 6 or 7 months now. Many people still do not hear of my name. I'm fine with that. What I can tell you is for one practice makes perfect. Consistency makes perfect. Maybe if you run enough tournaments that are successful maybe people will stop second guessing you. I'd suggest partner with ISL make it bigger if you want to "rush" this huge tournament out. I think your better off starting smaller with smaller tournaments and organizing them well and then go international with 40k prize pool.
I wish you all the best luck in your endeavor. You said looking for volunteers or something like that. I'd be happy to help any qualifiers that are online with replays. I'd be unavailable to go into Europe has I have school but just giving you some option.
You might have heard of such things as the Nation War League, Gambit Cup Season 1 and 2? Eywa also hosted several other tournaments if I am not mistaken, which also had prices. So, what else should he do?
Tbh, the reason I had trust in this, from the moment I've heard it, is simply because of Eywa's name on it. I think those who have followed his events and read his rulesets clearly notice that what Eywa has once said: the attempt to bring foreign BW to a more professional level, something alot of players sadly lack. Hence it's good someone is taking on this. But that's also the reason I believe in this event.
Jesus.
Now, really, I think I had a right to have a dose of healthy skepticism. Since you had answered all my questions, I let it go. Some of my friends told me on Skype that they thought it was "bullshit", but I said that I wasn't sure. I told them that while I disagree about Eywa's handling of almost everything, I sincerely hoped the event was a real thing. As it turns out, it's not. It never was.
On October 23 2012 14:54 ninazerg wrote: Let me just say right now that I really hope this event succeeds. I may have been skeptical about the prize-pool at first (I was like "Who has that kind of money laying around?") but even when some people I know said they thought the prize was fake, I even told them that I hoped that it wasn't fake. I honestly hope that your effort here succeeds, and even though I may have come off as antagonistic before, I apologize. I probably won't be able to come close to qualifying, and won't be able to afford a trip to Europe anytime in the foreseeable future, it's not about me.
Now, this may come as a surprise, but after some time of reflection, I would much rather just put myself out there and take a step towards reconciliation with you. After all, it's a game we both really love playing, and there is such a great community that comes with it, and I have no intention of skirmishing with you on the forums or anywhere again in the future. That's not the way I want to be, and I hope that it's not too late to make peace with you, Eywa-. That being said, forget about the grudge, I don't want it anymore or want to spend another ounce of energy on my own unnecessary negativity.
I sincerely believe that if you focus on the organization of this LAN tour, it will be a big success. Best of luck to you!
I went out of my way to get out of the way so you would have one less vocal critic, and even went so far as to ask Gecko to take a hockey card joke out of a parody magazine that we worked on. You just need to stop this, Eywa. Just stop. Nobody wants any more bullshit explanations. Just come clean and tell everyone the truth, which is that there will not be a LAN.
Also, those stupid showmatches you barely won while we both played random and you cheesed every game on stupid maps are bullshit. Time to end this once and for all.
In light of nina's post, and specifically the quote about you saying the funds are locked in.
What proof do you have that the extra money for GC and the funds to run + prize for this new lan are in existance. are these more funds that are "locked in"
or are they real?
After you've straight up lied to the community I think we're more than justified to be skeptical of any large money promises you are making at this point.
On July 20 2012 19:59 Eywa- wrote: There's been a lot of talk from Canada that they don't want to play with South America, however, until there are any sign ups at all from either of these areas, this will be ignored entirely. Like I said, Qualifications I set are likely to change pending on sign ups.
nothing was finalized, so we didn't think to start qualification point systems, Dragon and I were looking at possible players from LA+CA and you claim we're all inactive but this is a huge prize pool and likely some of these inactive people might just take a shot at it (which is what I thought we are promoting anyway, increase popularity in BW?)
Anyway, possible Players: Assault, Bizzy, Bibiane, Castro, Cute, Deska, Dinot, Dragon, Draw, Gotunk, Handy, ShuttleDance, Terror, Yan... These are only off the top of my head though, I imagine there are a few others who upon realizing the amount of $ for the tour will probably give it a shot.
Also for the Qualifiers, where do we host it(server)? How do we notify the people of that area there is a qualifier? what do we need to get the qualifier approved? [again you say we have no sign ups but you were not clear at all that we can just get started on these things, ie: if I sign up now, I still have to wait for other people to sign up before I can host any qualifiers...? ]
I think all these questions coming out are really good. If people voice all uncertainties and inconsistencies now, it will be much easier to make a fully rounded and satisfactory plan. Keep them coming
It would be great if "inactive" or very casual players would really step up their game for this. It would also be superb if players on the edge, (C+, possibly slightly intermittently practicing players like myself) would push themselves to a higher standard, and get some new faces at the top. I'm certainly going to try to do so, schedule permitting.
Oh, excellent! I'm glad you're taking this approach to the questions.
Has EywaSC procured the funds for the tournament already, or are the numbers in the original post more of a 'rough estimate'?
On July 20 2012 19:59 Eywa- wrote: There's been a lot of talk from Canada that they don't want to play with South America, however, until there are any sign ups at all from either of these areas, this will be ignored entirely. Like I said, Qualifications I set are likely to change pending on sign ups.
nothing was finalized, so we didn't think to start qualification point systems, Dragon and I were looking at possible players from LA+CA and you claim we're all inactive but this is a huge prize pool and likely some of these inactive people might just take a shot at it (which is what I thought we are promoting anyway, increase popularity in BW?)
Anyway, possible Players: Assault, Bizzy, Bibiane, Castro, Cute, Deska, Dinot, Dragon, Draw, Gotunk, Handy, ShuttleDance, Terror, Yan... These are only off the top of my head though, I imagine there are a few others who upon realizing the amount of $ for the tour will probably give it a shot.
Also for the Qualifiers, where do we host it(server)? How do we notify the people of that area there is a qualifier? what do we need to get the qualifier approved? [again you say we have no sign ups but you were not clear at all that we can just get started on these things, ie: if I sign up now, I still have to wait for other people to sign up before I can host any qualifiers...? ]
I think all these questions coming out are really good. If people voice all uncertainties and inconsistencies now, it will be much easier to make a fully rounded and satisfactory plan. Keep them coming
It would be great if "inactive" or very casual players would really step up their game for this. It would also be superb if players on the edge, (C+, possibly slightly intermittently practicing players like myself) would push themselves to a higher standard, and get some new faces at the top. I'm certainly going to try to do so, schedule permitting.
Oh, excellent! I'm glad you're taking this approach to the questions.
Has EywaSC procured the funds for the tournament already, or are the numbers in the original post more of a 'rough estimate'?
The funds are already locked in for the tournament, it's no estimate.
"THE FUNDS ARE ALREADY LOCKED IN FOR THE TOURNAMENT"
My God.
Still, I was perplexed by some of the odd wording of some of the posts, so I had to ask:
On July 20 2012 19:59 Eywa- wrote: There's been a lot of talk from Canada that they don't want to play with South America, however, until there are any sign ups at all from either of these areas, this will be ignored entirely. Like I said, Qualifications I set are likely to change pending on sign ups.
nothing was finalized, so we didn't think to start qualification point systems, Dragon and I were looking at possible players from LA+CA and you claim we're all inactive but this is a huge prize pool and likely some of these inactive people might just take a shot at it (which is what I thought we are promoting anyway, increase popularity in BW?)
Anyway, possible Players: Assault, Bizzy, Bibiane, Castro, Cute, Deska, Dinot, Dragon, Draw, Gotunk, Handy, ShuttleDance, Terror, Yan... These are only off the top of my head though, I imagine there are a few others who upon realizing the amount of $ for the tour will probably give it a shot.
Also for the Qualifiers, where do we host it(server)? How do we notify the people of that area there is a qualifier? what do we need to get the qualifier approved? [again you say we have no sign ups but you were not clear at all that we can just get started on these things, ie: if I sign up now, I still have to wait for other people to sign up before I can host any qualifiers...? ]
I think all these questions coming out are really good. If people voice all uncertainties and inconsistencies now, it will be much easier to make a fully rounded and satisfactory plan. Keep them coming
It would be great if "inactive" or very casual players would really step up their game for this. It would also be superb if players on the edge, (C+, possibly slightly intermittently practicing players like myself) would push themselves to a higher standard, and get some new faces at the top. I'm certainly going to try to do so, schedule permitting.
Oh, excellent! I'm glad you're taking this approach to the questions.
Has EywaSC procured the funds for the tournament already, or are the numbers in the original post more of a 'rough estimate'?
The funds are already locked in for the tournament, it's no estimate.
Well, then I'm confused. Let me explain.
On July 19 2012 13:03 Shotcoder wrote:
The money has been gathered through a team effort of purchasing and manufacturing product, organizing and packaging said product and redistributing it for sale at a local level. So the funding comes from the efforts of myself, Eywa and Elegant. We are no saying you don't need to know where the money is coming from, we are just withholding information for our fundraising benefits (ie if we raised this kind of money with it what's stopping TL users from repeating and reducing the "profit" margin[I use profit loosely here because the fund go back toward more product or into tournament funding]).
You've stated that Noise is the primary fundraiser for this project. If the funds are already "locked in" like you've said, why did Noise express concerns about revealing the source of the project's income being jeopardized by copycats following the same business model? That sounds to me like the Hockey Cards haven't been sold yet, but maybe I'm misunderstanding?
On July 20 2012 19:59 Eywa- wrote: There's been a lot of talk from Canada that they don't want to play with South America, however, until there are any sign ups at all from either of these areas, this will be ignored entirely. Like I said, Qualifications I set are likely to change pending on sign ups.
nothing was finalized, so we didn't think to start qualification point systems, Dragon and I were looking at possible players from LA+CA and you claim we're all inactive but this is a huge prize pool and likely some of these inactive people might just take a shot at it (which is what I thought we are promoting anyway, increase popularity in BW?)
Anyway, possible Players: Assault, Bizzy, Bibiane, Castro, Cute, Deska, Dinot, Dragon, Draw, Gotunk, Handy, ShuttleDance, Terror, Yan... These are only off the top of my head though, I imagine there are a few others who upon realizing the amount of $ for the tour will probably give it a shot.
Also for the Qualifiers, where do we host it(server)? How do we notify the people of that area there is a qualifier? what do we need to get the qualifier approved? [again you say we have no sign ups but you were not clear at all that we can just get started on these things, ie: if I sign up now, I still have to wait for other people to sign up before I can host any qualifiers...? ]
I think all these questions coming out are really good. If people voice all uncertainties and inconsistencies now, it will be much easier to make a fully rounded and satisfactory plan. Keep them coming
It would be great if "inactive" or very casual players would really step up their game for this. It would also be superb if players on the edge, (C+, possibly slightly intermittently practicing players like myself) would push themselves to a higher standard, and get some new faces at the top. I'm certainly going to try to do so, schedule permitting.
Oh, excellent! I'm glad you're taking this approach to the questions.
Has EywaSC procured the funds for the tournament already, or are the numbers in the original post more of a 'rough estimate'?
The funds are already locked in for the tournament, it's no estimate.
Well, then I'm confused. Let me explain.
On July 19 2012 13:03 Shotcoder wrote:
The money has been gathered through a team effort of purchasing and manufacturing product, organizing and packaging said product and redistributing it for sale at a local level. So the funding comes from the efforts of myself, Eywa and Elegant. We are no saying you don't need to know where the money is coming from, we are just withholding information for our fundraising benefits (ie if we raised this kind of money with it what's stopping TL users from repeating and reducing the "profit" margin[I use profit loosely here because the fund go back toward more product or into tournament funding]).
You've stated that Noise is the primary fundraiser for this project. If the funds are already "locked in" like you've said, why did Noise express concerns about revealing the source of the project's income being jeopardized by copycats following the same business model? That sounds to me like the Hockey Cards haven't been sold yet, but maybe I'm misunderstanding?
I don't see what you're trying to get that or where it says that in his post, obviously, anything can be interpreted and he knows that I don't talk much about my planning, i.e. you didn't hear about this event till I posted it, I try to perfect the product and not the speech. If you get caught up on the speech, then you're likely on the wrong track.
Really? I was on the wrong track?
Of course, yes, I must've been. Geez, how could I have been so skeptical against such an awesome kick-ass event?
On July 21 2012 10:42 BWalma wrote: I can see where a lot of people are getting skeptical. Might I suggest something. I've been a caster for about 6 or 7 months now. Many people still do not hear of my name. I'm fine with that. What I can tell you is for one practice makes perfect. Consistency makes perfect. Maybe if you run enough tournaments that are successful maybe people will stop second guessing you. I'd suggest partner with ISL make it bigger if you want to "rush" this huge tournament out. I think your better off starting smaller with smaller tournaments and organizing them well and then go international with 40k prize pool.
I wish you all the best luck in your endeavor. You said looking for volunteers or something like that. I'd be happy to help any qualifiers that are online with replays. I'd be unavailable to go into Europe has I have school but just giving you some option.
You might have heard of such things as the Nation War League, Gambit Cup Season 1 and 2? Eywa also hosted several other tournaments if I am not mistaken, which also had prices. So, what else should he do?
Tbh, the reason I had trust in this, from the moment I've heard it, is simply because of Eywa's name on it. I think those who have followed his events and read his rulesets clearly notice that what Eywa has once said: the attempt to bring foreign BW to a more professional level, something alot of players sadly lack. Hence it's good someone is taking on this. But that's also the reason I believe in this event.
Jesus.
Now, really, I think I had a right to have a dose of healthy skepticism. Since you had answered all my questions, I let it go. Some of my friends told me on Skype that they thought it was "bullshit", but I said that I wasn't sure. I told them that while I disagree about Eywa's handling of almost everything, I sincerely hoped the event was a real thing. As it turns out, it's not. It never was.
On October 23 2012 14:54 ninazerg wrote: Let me just say right now that I really hope this event succeeds. I may have been skeptical about the prize-pool at first (I was like "Who has that kind of money laying around?") but even when some people I know said they thought the prize was fake, I even told them that I hoped that it wasn't fake. I honestly hope that your effort here succeeds, and even though I may have come off as antagonistic before, I apologize. I probably won't be able to come close to qualifying, and won't be able to afford a trip to Europe anytime in the foreseeable future, it's not about me.
Now, this may come as a surprise, but after some time of reflection, I would much rather just put myself out there and take a step towards reconciliation with you. After all, it's a game we both really love playing, and there is such a great community that comes with it, and I have no intention of skirmishing with you on the forums or anywhere again in the future. That's not the way I want to be, and I hope that it's not too late to make peace with you, Eywa-. That being said, forget about the grudge, I don't want it anymore or want to spend another ounce of energy on my own unnecessary negativity.
I sincerely believe that if you focus on the organization of this LAN tour, it will be a big success. Best of luck to you!
I went out of my way to get out of the way so you would have one less vocal critic, and even went so far as to ask Gecko to take a hockey card joke out of a parody magazine that we worked on. You just need to stop this, Eywa. Just stop. Nobody wants any more bullshit explanations. Just come clean and tell everyone the truth, which is that there will not be a LAN.
Also, those stupid showmatches you barely won while we both played random and you cheesed every game on stupid maps are bullshit. Time to end this once and for all.
Fact: I lied about the money because I was sure that we would be able to raise it on time. Do you think all credible organizations have stuff at the time of announce? No... You generally work out a plan which is very strong in nature and then roll out aspects simultaneously. Of course, that didn't happen, however, there will be a LAN for those few that I have respect for. When I'm working and I'm asked to travel somewhere on a given date, sometimes equipment doesn't come in till the end of the week... I mean why is that? It's because things are organized simultaneously given that without this aspect, the flow of things are just too rough and things happen later than they generally should.
As for the Grudge Match, I have played about 10 games of brood war in the past 12 months.
In my opinion the thing is that it was supposed to be one of the biggest tournaments nowadays, but ended up in few people Eywa invited to it, not even by their level at all.
Lol eywa' that's completely full of shit. there's literally no way a major company running a tournament at this level of prize pool would announce the prize pool without having all the money guaranteed from sponsors via contracts etc.
do you honestly think TL was like, well i mean I GUESS we'll find a sponsor so lets go ahead and announce the prize pool we think they'll give us for TSL4.
On December 11 2012 06:03 Mewka wrote: In my opinion the thing is that it was supposed to be one of the biggest tournaments nowadays, but ended up in few people Eywa invited to it, not even by their level at all.
If you want, you can try pointing out why any one of the invites are bad players... Pretty sure you'd get ignored though.
On December 11 2012 06:03 Mewka wrote: In my opinion the thing is that it was supposed to be one of the biggest tournaments nowadays, but ended up in few people Eywa invited to it, not even by their level at all.
If you want, you can try pointing out why any one of the invites are bad players... Pretty sure you'd get ignored though.
That's not a point of my post and I don't think those players are bad.
On December 11 2012 06:03 Mewka wrote: In my opinion the thing is that it was supposed to be one of the biggest tournaments nowadays, but ended up in few people Eywa invited to it, not even by their level at all.
If you want, you can try pointing out why any one of the invites are bad players... Pretty sure you'd get ignored though.
That's not a point of my post and I don't think those players are bad.
Then explain how they are not proper level players to be seeded into a tournament?
On December 11 2012 05:49 ninazerg wrote: Please, explain this to me.
In my somewhat skeptical inquiry, I asked:
On July 21 2012 08:30 ninazerg wrote:
On July 21 2012 06:13 ImbaTosS wrote:
On July 21 2012 05:37 dRaW wrote:
On July 20 2012 19:59 Eywa- wrote: There's been a lot of talk from Canada that they don't want to play with South America, however, until there are any sign ups at all from either of these areas, this will be ignored entirely. Like I said, Qualifications I set are likely to change pending on sign ups.
nothing was finalized, so we didn't think to start qualification point systems, Dragon and I were looking at possible players from LA+CA and you claim we're all inactive but this is a huge prize pool and likely some of these inactive people might just take a shot at it (which is what I thought we are promoting anyway, increase popularity in BW?)
Anyway, possible Players: Assault, Bizzy, Bibiane, Castro, Cute, Deska, Dinot, Dragon, Draw, Gotunk, Handy, ShuttleDance, Terror, Yan... These are only off the top of my head though, I imagine there are a few others who upon realizing the amount of $ for the tour will probably give it a shot.
Also for the Qualifiers, where do we host it(server)? How do we notify the people of that area there is a qualifier? what do we need to get the qualifier approved? [again you say we have no sign ups but you were not clear at all that we can just get started on these things, ie: if I sign up now, I still have to wait for other people to sign up before I can host any qualifiers...? ]
I think all these questions coming out are really good. If people voice all uncertainties and inconsistencies now, it will be much easier to make a fully rounded and satisfactory plan. Keep them coming
It would be great if "inactive" or very casual players would really step up their game for this. It would also be superb if players on the edge, (C+, possibly slightly intermittently practicing players like myself) would push themselves to a higher standard, and get some new faces at the top. I'm certainly going to try to do so, schedule permitting.
Oh, excellent! I'm glad you're taking this approach to the questions.
Has EywaSC procured the funds for the tournament already, or are the numbers in the original post more of a 'rough estimate'?
To which I received this reply:
On July 21 2012 08:49 Eywa- wrote:
On July 21 2012 08:30 ninazerg wrote:
On July 21 2012 06:13 ImbaTosS wrote:
On July 21 2012 05:37 dRaW wrote:
On July 20 2012 19:59 Eywa- wrote: There's been a lot of talk from Canada that they don't want to play with South America, however, until there are any sign ups at all from either of these areas, this will be ignored entirely. Like I said, Qualifications I set are likely to change pending on sign ups.
nothing was finalized, so we didn't think to start qualification point systems, Dragon and I were looking at possible players from LA+CA and you claim we're all inactive but this is a huge prize pool and likely some of these inactive people might just take a shot at it (which is what I thought we are promoting anyway, increase popularity in BW?)
Anyway, possible Players: Assault, Bizzy, Bibiane, Castro, Cute, Deska, Dinot, Dragon, Draw, Gotunk, Handy, ShuttleDance, Terror, Yan... These are only off the top of my head though, I imagine there are a few others who upon realizing the amount of $ for the tour will probably give it a shot.
Also for the Qualifiers, where do we host it(server)? How do we notify the people of that area there is a qualifier? what do we need to get the qualifier approved? [again you say we have no sign ups but you were not clear at all that we can just get started on these things, ie: if I sign up now, I still have to wait for other people to sign up before I can host any qualifiers...? ]
I think all these questions coming out are really good. If people voice all uncertainties and inconsistencies now, it will be much easier to make a fully rounded and satisfactory plan. Keep them coming
It would be great if "inactive" or very casual players would really step up their game for this. It would also be superb if players on the edge, (C+, possibly slightly intermittently practicing players like myself) would push themselves to a higher standard, and get some new faces at the top. I'm certainly going to try to do so, schedule permitting.
Oh, excellent! I'm glad you're taking this approach to the questions.
Has EywaSC procured the funds for the tournament already, or are the numbers in the original post more of a 'rough estimate'?
The funds are already locked in for the tournament, it's no estimate.
"THE FUNDS ARE ALREADY LOCKED IN FOR THE TOURNAMENT"
My God.
Still, I was perplexed by some of the odd wording of some of the posts, so I had to ask:
On July 21 2012 10:01 ninazerg wrote:
On July 21 2012 08:49 Eywa- wrote:
On July 21 2012 08:30 ninazerg wrote:
On July 21 2012 06:13 ImbaTosS wrote:
On July 21 2012 05:37 dRaW wrote:
On July 20 2012 19:59 Eywa- wrote: There's been a lot of talk from Canada that they don't want to play with South America, however, until there are any sign ups at all from either of these areas, this will be ignored entirely. Like I said, Qualifications I set are likely to change pending on sign ups.
nothing was finalized, so we didn't think to start qualification point systems, Dragon and I were looking at possible players from LA+CA and you claim we're all inactive but this is a huge prize pool and likely some of these inactive people might just take a shot at it (which is what I thought we are promoting anyway, increase popularity in BW?)
Anyway, possible Players: Assault, Bizzy, Bibiane, Castro, Cute, Deska, Dinot, Dragon, Draw, Gotunk, Handy, ShuttleDance, Terror, Yan... These are only off the top of my head though, I imagine there are a few others who upon realizing the amount of $ for the tour will probably give it a shot.
Also for the Qualifiers, where do we host it(server)? How do we notify the people of that area there is a qualifier? what do we need to get the qualifier approved? [again you say we have no sign ups but you were not clear at all that we can just get started on these things, ie: if I sign up now, I still have to wait for other people to sign up before I can host any qualifiers...? ]
I think all these questions coming out are really good. If people voice all uncertainties and inconsistencies now, it will be much easier to make a fully rounded and satisfactory plan. Keep them coming
It would be great if "inactive" or very casual players would really step up their game for this. It would also be superb if players on the edge, (C+, possibly slightly intermittently practicing players like myself) would push themselves to a higher standard, and get some new faces at the top. I'm certainly going to try to do so, schedule permitting.
Oh, excellent! I'm glad you're taking this approach to the questions.
Has EywaSC procured the funds for the tournament already, or are the numbers in the original post more of a 'rough estimate'?
The funds are already locked in for the tournament, it's no estimate.
Well, then I'm confused. Let me explain.
On July 19 2012 13:03 Shotcoder wrote:
The money has been gathered through a team effort of purchasing and manufacturing product, organizing and packaging said product and redistributing it for sale at a local level. So the funding comes from the efforts of myself, Eywa and Elegant. We are no saying you don't need to know where the money is coming from, we are just withholding information for our fundraising benefits (ie if we raised this kind of money with it what's stopping TL users from repeating and reducing the "profit" margin[I use profit loosely here because the fund go back toward more product or into tournament funding]).
You've stated that Noise is the primary fundraiser for this project. If the funds are already "locked in" like you've said, why did Noise express concerns about revealing the source of the project's income being jeopardized by copycats following the same business model? That sounds to me like the Hockey Cards haven't been sold yet, but maybe I'm misunderstanding?
To which I received the enigmatic reply:
On July 21 2012 10:23 Eywa- wrote:
On July 21 2012 10:01 ninazerg wrote:
On July 21 2012 08:49 Eywa- wrote:
On July 21 2012 08:30 ninazerg wrote:
On July 21 2012 06:13 ImbaTosS wrote:
On July 21 2012 05:37 dRaW wrote:
On July 20 2012 19:59 Eywa- wrote: There's been a lot of talk from Canada that they don't want to play with South America, however, until there are any sign ups at all from either of these areas, this will be ignored entirely. Like I said, Qualifications I set are likely to change pending on sign ups.
nothing was finalized, so we didn't think to start qualification point systems, Dragon and I were looking at possible players from LA+CA and you claim we're all inactive but this is a huge prize pool and likely some of these inactive people might just take a shot at it (which is what I thought we are promoting anyway, increase popularity in BW?)
Anyway, possible Players: Assault, Bizzy, Bibiane, Castro, Cute, Deska, Dinot, Dragon, Draw, Gotunk, Handy, ShuttleDance, Terror, Yan... These are only off the top of my head though, I imagine there are a few others who upon realizing the amount of $ for the tour will probably give it a shot.
Also for the Qualifiers, where do we host it(server)? How do we notify the people of that area there is a qualifier? what do we need to get the qualifier approved? [again you say we have no sign ups but you were not clear at all that we can just get started on these things, ie: if I sign up now, I still have to wait for other people to sign up before I can host any qualifiers...? ]
I think all these questions coming out are really good. If people voice all uncertainties and inconsistencies now, it will be much easier to make a fully rounded and satisfactory plan. Keep them coming
It would be great if "inactive" or very casual players would really step up their game for this. It would also be superb if players on the edge, (C+, possibly slightly intermittently practicing players like myself) would push themselves to a higher standard, and get some new faces at the top. I'm certainly going to try to do so, schedule permitting.
Oh, excellent! I'm glad you're taking this approach to the questions.
Has EywaSC procured the funds for the tournament already, or are the numbers in the original post more of a 'rough estimate'?
The funds are already locked in for the tournament, it's no estimate.
Well, then I'm confused. Let me explain.
On July 19 2012 13:03 Shotcoder wrote:
The money has been gathered through a team effort of purchasing and manufacturing product, organizing and packaging said product and redistributing it for sale at a local level. So the funding comes from the efforts of myself, Eywa and Elegant. We are no saying you don't need to know where the money is coming from, we are just withholding information for our fundraising benefits (ie if we raised this kind of money with it what's stopping TL users from repeating and reducing the "profit" margin[I use profit loosely here because the fund go back toward more product or into tournament funding]).
You've stated that Noise is the primary fundraiser for this project. If the funds are already "locked in" like you've said, why did Noise express concerns about revealing the source of the project's income being jeopardized by copycats following the same business model? That sounds to me like the Hockey Cards haven't been sold yet, but maybe I'm misunderstanding?
I don't see what you're trying to get that or where it says that in his post, obviously, anything can be interpreted and he knows that I don't talk much about my planning, i.e. you didn't hear about this event till I posted it, I try to perfect the product and not the speech. If you get caught up on the speech, then you're likely on the wrong track.
Really? I was on the wrong track?
Of course, yes, I must've been. Geez, how could I have been so skeptical against such an awesome kick-ass event?
On July 21 2012 20:42 LML wrote:
On July 21 2012 10:42 BWalma wrote: I can see where a lot of people are getting skeptical. Might I suggest something. I've been a caster for about 6 or 7 months now. Many people still do not hear of my name. I'm fine with that. What I can tell you is for one practice makes perfect. Consistency makes perfect. Maybe if you run enough tournaments that are successful maybe people will stop second guessing you. I'd suggest partner with ISL make it bigger if you want to "rush" this huge tournament out. I think your better off starting smaller with smaller tournaments and organizing them well and then go international with 40k prize pool.
I wish you all the best luck in your endeavor. You said looking for volunteers or something like that. I'd be happy to help any qualifiers that are online with replays. I'd be unavailable to go into Europe has I have school but just giving you some option.
You might have heard of such things as the Nation War League, Gambit Cup Season 1 and 2? Eywa also hosted several other tournaments if I am not mistaken, which also had prices. So, what else should he do?
Tbh, the reason I had trust in this, from the moment I've heard it, is simply because of Eywa's name on it. I think those who have followed his events and read his rulesets clearly notice that what Eywa has once said: the attempt to bring foreign BW to a more professional level, something alot of players sadly lack. Hence it's good someone is taking on this. But that's also the reason I believe in this event.
Jesus.
Now, really, I think I had a right to have a dose of healthy skepticism. Since you had answered all my questions, I let it go. Some of my friends told me on Skype that they thought it was "bullshit", but I said that I wasn't sure. I told them that while I disagree about Eywa's handling of almost everything, I sincerely hoped the event was a real thing. As it turns out, it's not. It never was.
On October 23 2012 14:54 ninazerg wrote: Let me just say right now that I really hope this event succeeds. I may have been skeptical about the prize-pool at first (I was like "Who has that kind of money laying around?") but even when some people I know said they thought the prize was fake, I even told them that I hoped that it wasn't fake. I honestly hope that your effort here succeeds, and even though I may have come off as antagonistic before, I apologize. I probably won't be able to come close to qualifying, and won't be able to afford a trip to Europe anytime in the foreseeable future, it's not about me.
Now, this may come as a surprise, but after some time of reflection, I would much rather just put myself out there and take a step towards reconciliation with you. After all, it's a game we both really love playing, and there is such a great community that comes with it, and I have no intention of skirmishing with you on the forums or anywhere again in the future. That's not the way I want to be, and I hope that it's not too late to make peace with you, Eywa-. That being said, forget about the grudge, I don't want it anymore or want to spend another ounce of energy on my own unnecessary negativity.
I sincerely believe that if you focus on the organization of this LAN tour, it will be a big success. Best of luck to you!
I went out of my way to get out of the way so you would have one less vocal critic, and even went so far as to ask Gecko to take a hockey card joke out of a parody magazine that we worked on. You just need to stop this, Eywa. Just stop. Nobody wants any more bullshit explanations. Just come clean and tell everyone the truth, which is that there will not be a LAN.
Also, those stupid showmatches you barely won while we both played random and you cheesed every game on stupid maps are bullshit. Time to end this once and for all.
Fact: I lied about the money because I was sure that we would be able to raise it on time. Do you think all credible organizations have stuff at the time of announce? No... You generally work out a plan which is very strong in nature and then roll out aspects simultaneously. Of course, that didn't happen, however, there will be a LAN for those few that I have respect for. When I'm working and I'm asked to travel somewhere on a given date, sometimes equipment doesn't come in till the end of the week... I mean why is that? It's because things are organized simultaneously given that without this aspect, the flow of things are just too rough and things happen later than they generally should.
As for the Grudge Match, I have played about 10 games of brood war in the past 12 months.
You are not an organization. There is no EywaSC. There won't be a LAN. Please... just stop it, and if you've only played 10 games, then get practicing.
On December 11 2012 06:14 Mewka wrote: Read my 1st post -.- And you just said that you picked some players that you like I didn't write anywhere that they are bad
On December 11 2012 06:03 Mewka wrote: In my opinion the thing is that it was supposed to be one of the biggest tournaments nowadays, but ended up in few people Eywa invited to it, not even by their level at all.
I'm just trying to figure out who wasn't picked by their level? I didn't include L_Master in there, even though he stated on Skype that he was offended I didn't think he was at top level... I didn't put a lot of people in there because they're not top level. I mean, if they weren't picked by their level at all then who of the 14 shouldn't be in a tournament? Please enlighten me.
On December 11 2012 05:49 ninazerg wrote: Please, explain this to me.
In my somewhat skeptical inquiry, I asked:
On July 21 2012 08:30 ninazerg wrote:
On July 21 2012 06:13 ImbaTosS wrote:
On July 21 2012 05:37 dRaW wrote:
On July 20 2012 19:59 Eywa- wrote: There's been a lot of talk from Canada that they don't want to play with South America, however, until there are any sign ups at all from either of these areas, this will be ignored entirely. Like I said, Qualifications I set are likely to change pending on sign ups.
nothing was finalized, so we didn't think to start qualification point systems, Dragon and I were looking at possible players from LA+CA and you claim we're all inactive but this is a huge prize pool and likely some of these inactive people might just take a shot at it (which is what I thought we are promoting anyway, increase popularity in BW?)
Anyway, possible Players: Assault, Bizzy, Bibiane, Castro, Cute, Deska, Dinot, Dragon, Draw, Gotunk, Handy, ShuttleDance, Terror, Yan... These are only off the top of my head though, I imagine there are a few others who upon realizing the amount of $ for the tour will probably give it a shot.
Also for the Qualifiers, where do we host it(server)? How do we notify the people of that area there is a qualifier? what do we need to get the qualifier approved? [again you say we have no sign ups but you were not clear at all that we can just get started on these things, ie: if I sign up now, I still have to wait for other people to sign up before I can host any qualifiers...? ]
I think all these questions coming out are really good. If people voice all uncertainties and inconsistencies now, it will be much easier to make a fully rounded and satisfactory plan. Keep them coming
It would be great if "inactive" or very casual players would really step up their game for this. It would also be superb if players on the edge, (C+, possibly slightly intermittently practicing players like myself) would push themselves to a higher standard, and get some new faces at the top. I'm certainly going to try to do so, schedule permitting.
Oh, excellent! I'm glad you're taking this approach to the questions.
Has EywaSC procured the funds for the tournament already, or are the numbers in the original post more of a 'rough estimate'?
To which I received this reply:
On July 21 2012 08:49 Eywa- wrote:
On July 21 2012 08:30 ninazerg wrote:
On July 21 2012 06:13 ImbaTosS wrote:
On July 21 2012 05:37 dRaW wrote:
On July 20 2012 19:59 Eywa- wrote: There's been a lot of talk from Canada that they don't want to play with South America, however, until there are any sign ups at all from either of these areas, this will be ignored entirely. Like I said, Qualifications I set are likely to change pending on sign ups.
nothing was finalized, so we didn't think to start qualification point systems, Dragon and I were looking at possible players from LA+CA and you claim we're all inactive but this is a huge prize pool and likely some of these inactive people might just take a shot at it (which is what I thought we are promoting anyway, increase popularity in BW?)
Anyway, possible Players: Assault, Bizzy, Bibiane, Castro, Cute, Deska, Dinot, Dragon, Draw, Gotunk, Handy, ShuttleDance, Terror, Yan... These are only off the top of my head though, I imagine there are a few others who upon realizing the amount of $ for the tour will probably give it a shot.
Also for the Qualifiers, where do we host it(server)? How do we notify the people of that area there is a qualifier? what do we need to get the qualifier approved? [again you say we have no sign ups but you were not clear at all that we can just get started on these things, ie: if I sign up now, I still have to wait for other people to sign up before I can host any qualifiers...? ]
I think all these questions coming out are really good. If people voice all uncertainties and inconsistencies now, it will be much easier to make a fully rounded and satisfactory plan. Keep them coming
It would be great if "inactive" or very casual players would really step up their game for this. It would also be superb if players on the edge, (C+, possibly slightly intermittently practicing players like myself) would push themselves to a higher standard, and get some new faces at the top. I'm certainly going to try to do so, schedule permitting.
Oh, excellent! I'm glad you're taking this approach to the questions.
Has EywaSC procured the funds for the tournament already, or are the numbers in the original post more of a 'rough estimate'?
The funds are already locked in for the tournament, it's no estimate.
"THE FUNDS ARE ALREADY LOCKED IN FOR THE TOURNAMENT"
My God.
Still, I was perplexed by some of the odd wording of some of the posts, so I had to ask:
On July 21 2012 10:01 ninazerg wrote:
On July 21 2012 08:49 Eywa- wrote:
On July 21 2012 08:30 ninazerg wrote:
On July 21 2012 06:13 ImbaTosS wrote:
On July 21 2012 05:37 dRaW wrote:
On July 20 2012 19:59 Eywa- wrote: There's been a lot of talk from Canada that they don't want to play with South America, however, until there are any sign ups at all from either of these areas, this will be ignored entirely. Like I said, Qualifications I set are likely to change pending on sign ups.
nothing was finalized, so we didn't think to start qualification point systems, Dragon and I were looking at possible players from LA+CA and you claim we're all inactive but this is a huge prize pool and likely some of these inactive people might just take a shot at it (which is what I thought we are promoting anyway, increase popularity in BW?)
Anyway, possible Players: Assault, Bizzy, Bibiane, Castro, Cute, Deska, Dinot, Dragon, Draw, Gotunk, Handy, ShuttleDance, Terror, Yan... These are only off the top of my head though, I imagine there are a few others who upon realizing the amount of $ for the tour will probably give it a shot.
Also for the Qualifiers, where do we host it(server)? How do we notify the people of that area there is a qualifier? what do we need to get the qualifier approved? [again you say we have no sign ups but you were not clear at all that we can just get started on these things, ie: if I sign up now, I still have to wait for other people to sign up before I can host any qualifiers...? ]
I think all these questions coming out are really good. If people voice all uncertainties and inconsistencies now, it will be much easier to make a fully rounded and satisfactory plan. Keep them coming
It would be great if "inactive" or very casual players would really step up their game for this. It would also be superb if players on the edge, (C+, possibly slightly intermittently practicing players like myself) would push themselves to a higher standard, and get some new faces at the top. I'm certainly going to try to do so, schedule permitting.
Oh, excellent! I'm glad you're taking this approach to the questions.
Has EywaSC procured the funds for the tournament already, or are the numbers in the original post more of a 'rough estimate'?
The funds are already locked in for the tournament, it's no estimate.
Well, then I'm confused. Let me explain.
On July 19 2012 13:03 Shotcoder wrote:
The money has been gathered through a team effort of purchasing and manufacturing product, organizing and packaging said product and redistributing it for sale at a local level. So the funding comes from the efforts of myself, Eywa and Elegant. We are no saying you don't need to know where the money is coming from, we are just withholding information for our fundraising benefits (ie if we raised this kind of money with it what's stopping TL users from repeating and reducing the "profit" margin[I use profit loosely here because the fund go back toward more product or into tournament funding]).
You've stated that Noise is the primary fundraiser for this project. If the funds are already "locked in" like you've said, why did Noise express concerns about revealing the source of the project's income being jeopardized by copycats following the same business model? That sounds to me like the Hockey Cards haven't been sold yet, but maybe I'm misunderstanding?
To which I received the enigmatic reply:
On July 21 2012 10:23 Eywa- wrote:
On July 21 2012 10:01 ninazerg wrote:
On July 21 2012 08:49 Eywa- wrote:
On July 21 2012 08:30 ninazerg wrote:
On July 21 2012 06:13 ImbaTosS wrote:
On July 21 2012 05:37 dRaW wrote:
On July 20 2012 19:59 Eywa- wrote: There's been a lot of talk from Canada that they don't want to play with South America, however, until there are any sign ups at all from either of these areas, this will be ignored entirely. Like I said, Qualifications I set are likely to change pending on sign ups.
nothing was finalized, so we didn't think to start qualification point systems, Dragon and I were looking at possible players from LA+CA and you claim we're all inactive but this is a huge prize pool and likely some of these inactive people might just take a shot at it (which is what I thought we are promoting anyway, increase popularity in BW?)
Anyway, possible Players: Assault, Bizzy, Bibiane, Castro, Cute, Deska, Dinot, Dragon, Draw, Gotunk, Handy, ShuttleDance, Terror, Yan... These are only off the top of my head though, I imagine there are a few others who upon realizing the amount of $ for the tour will probably give it a shot.
Also for the Qualifiers, where do we host it(server)? How do we notify the people of that area there is a qualifier? what do we need to get the qualifier approved? [again you say we have no sign ups but you were not clear at all that we can just get started on these things, ie: if I sign up now, I still have to wait for other people to sign up before I can host any qualifiers...? ]
I think all these questions coming out are really good. If people voice all uncertainties and inconsistencies now, it will be much easier to make a fully rounded and satisfactory plan. Keep them coming
It would be great if "inactive" or very casual players would really step up their game for this. It would also be superb if players on the edge, (C+, possibly slightly intermittently practicing players like myself) would push themselves to a higher standard, and get some new faces at the top. I'm certainly going to try to do so, schedule permitting.
Oh, excellent! I'm glad you're taking this approach to the questions.
Has EywaSC procured the funds for the tournament already, or are the numbers in the original post more of a 'rough estimate'?
The funds are already locked in for the tournament, it's no estimate.
Well, then I'm confused. Let me explain.
On July 19 2012 13:03 Shotcoder wrote:
The money has been gathered through a team effort of purchasing and manufacturing product, organizing and packaging said product and redistributing it for sale at a local level. So the funding comes from the efforts of myself, Eywa and Elegant. We are no saying you don't need to know where the money is coming from, we are just withholding information for our fundraising benefits (ie if we raised this kind of money with it what's stopping TL users from repeating and reducing the "profit" margin[I use profit loosely here because the fund go back toward more product or into tournament funding]).
You've stated that Noise is the primary fundraiser for this project. If the funds are already "locked in" like you've said, why did Noise express concerns about revealing the source of the project's income being jeopardized by copycats following the same business model? That sounds to me like the Hockey Cards haven't been sold yet, but maybe I'm misunderstanding?
I don't see what you're trying to get that or where it says that in his post, obviously, anything can be interpreted and he knows that I don't talk much about my planning, i.e. you didn't hear about this event till I posted it, I try to perfect the product and not the speech. If you get caught up on the speech, then you're likely on the wrong track.
Really? I was on the wrong track?
Of course, yes, I must've been. Geez, how could I have been so skeptical against such an awesome kick-ass event?
On July 21 2012 20:42 LML wrote:
On July 21 2012 10:42 BWalma wrote: I can see where a lot of people are getting skeptical. Might I suggest something. I've been a caster for about 6 or 7 months now. Many people still do not hear of my name. I'm fine with that. What I can tell you is for one practice makes perfect. Consistency makes perfect. Maybe if you run enough tournaments that are successful maybe people will stop second guessing you. I'd suggest partner with ISL make it bigger if you want to "rush" this huge tournament out. I think your better off starting smaller with smaller tournaments and organizing them well and then go international with 40k prize pool.
I wish you all the best luck in your endeavor. You said looking for volunteers or something like that. I'd be happy to help any qualifiers that are online with replays. I'd be unavailable to go into Europe has I have school but just giving you some option.
You might have heard of such things as the Nation War League, Gambit Cup Season 1 and 2? Eywa also hosted several other tournaments if I am not mistaken, which also had prices. So, what else should he do?
Tbh, the reason I had trust in this, from the moment I've heard it, is simply because of Eywa's name on it. I think those who have followed his events and read his rulesets clearly notice that what Eywa has once said: the attempt to bring foreign BW to a more professional level, something alot of players sadly lack. Hence it's good someone is taking on this. But that's also the reason I believe in this event.
Jesus.
Now, really, I think I had a right to have a dose of healthy skepticism. Since you had answered all my questions, I let it go. Some of my friends told me on Skype that they thought it was "bullshit", but I said that I wasn't sure. I told them that while I disagree about Eywa's handling of almost everything, I sincerely hoped the event was a real thing. As it turns out, it's not. It never was.
On October 23 2012 14:54 ninazerg wrote: Let me just say right now that I really hope this event succeeds. I may have been skeptical about the prize-pool at first (I was like "Who has that kind of money laying around?") but even when some people I know said they thought the prize was fake, I even told them that I hoped that it wasn't fake. I honestly hope that your effort here succeeds, and even though I may have come off as antagonistic before, I apologize. I probably won't be able to come close to qualifying, and won't be able to afford a trip to Europe anytime in the foreseeable future, it's not about me.
Now, this may come as a surprise, but after some time of reflection, I would much rather just put myself out there and take a step towards reconciliation with you. After all, it's a game we both really love playing, and there is such a great community that comes with it, and I have no intention of skirmishing with you on the forums or anywhere again in the future. That's not the way I want to be, and I hope that it's not too late to make peace with you, Eywa-. That being said, forget about the grudge, I don't want it anymore or want to spend another ounce of energy on my own unnecessary negativity.
I sincerely believe that if you focus on the organization of this LAN tour, it will be a big success. Best of luck to you!
I went out of my way to get out of the way so you would have one less vocal critic, and even went so far as to ask Gecko to take a hockey card joke out of a parody magazine that we worked on. You just need to stop this, Eywa. Just stop. Nobody wants any more bullshit explanations. Just come clean and tell everyone the truth, which is that there will not be a LAN.
Also, those stupid showmatches you barely won while we both played random and you cheesed every game on stupid maps are bullshit. Time to end this once and for all.
Fact: I lied about the money because I was sure that we would be able to raise it on time. Do you think all credible organizations have stuff at the time of announce? No... You generally work out a plan which is very strong in nature and then roll out aspects simultaneously. Of course, that didn't happen, however, there will be a LAN for those few that I have respect for. When I'm working and I'm asked to travel somewhere on a given date, sometimes equipment doesn't come in till the end of the week... I mean why is that? It's because things are organized simultaneously given that without this aspect, the flow of things are just too rough and things happen later than they generally should.
As for the Grudge Match, I have played about 10 games of brood war in the past 12 months.
You are not an organization. There is no EywaSC. There won't be a LAN. Please... just stop it, and if you've only played 10 games, then get practicing.
In Order: Correct, Correct, Incorrect, absolutely not.
On December 11 2012 06:20 Kiante wrote: instead of answering in vague statements why not provide some proof that the funds exist so we can stop being skeptical?
Because this tournament is not for you, it's not for anyone in the community except for the people invited. They will receive proof very shortly... You get nothing. Just another reason to have 2 seeds, for the qualifying players to have some reassurance of what's going on.
On December 10 2012 18:22 ihufa wrote: This is amazing, why are some people being whiny little cunts?
The tournament is cool, sure. It's more the fact that Eywa cancelled the 38k tour he was going to host because he "doesn't feel like dealing with most of the community" and he "didn't feel it was worth my time". False promises suck, big false promises suck more.
I agree, though if community members feel like picking it up, I will gladly tell them about what the plan was in detail and guide them through it (since I've done this for personal gain before - So I know very well what I'm doing).
This bold quote is exactly why we have this tour running as smoothly as possible @ top quality!!! Everyone enjoy the 38k $ LAN... oh wait...
On December 10 2012 23:17 sas.Sziky wrote: it's a bit offensive to me (backup list) I do not understand, so you can delete it from there my name Thanks for the opportunity!
^ lol why he's not an invite is strange to begin with
Also, Cryoc won his group in the EUROLAN and dOTY showed no interest in it, so now he's not even an invite?
In my opinion the thing is that it was supposed to be one of the biggest tournaments nowadays, but ended up in few people Eywa invited to it, not even by their level at all.
Last 7 words mean that you invited good players which u like the most, the most important in this post is that part
On December 11 2012 06:20 Kiante wrote: instead of answering in vague statements why not provide some proof that the funds exist so we can stop being skeptical?
Because this tournament is not for you, it's not for anyone in the community except for the people invited. They will receive proof very shortly... You get nothing. Just another reason to have 2 seeds, for the qualifying players to have some reassurance of what's going on.
so why the fuck you are posting this thread in Teamliquid? I am out of this topic
On December 10 2012 18:22 ihufa wrote: This is amazing, why are some people being whiny little cunts?
The tournament is cool, sure. It's more the fact that Eywa cancelled the 38k tour he was going to host because he "doesn't feel like dealing with most of the community" and he "didn't feel it was worth my time". False promises suck, big false promises suck more.
I agree, though if community members feel like picking it up, I will gladly tell them about what the plan was in detail and guide them through it (since I've done this for personal gain before - So I know very well what I'm doing).
This bold quote is exactly why we have this tour running as smoothly as possible @ top quality!!! Everyone enjoy the 38k $ LAN... oh wait...
On December 10 2012 23:17 sas.Sziky wrote: it's a bit offensive to me (backup list) I do not understand, so you can delete it from there my name Thanks for the opportunity!
^ lol why he's not an invite is strange to begin with
Also, Cryoc won his group in the EUROLAN and dOTY showed no interest in it, so now he's not even an invite?
Quite Simply, I didn't think about Cryoc, but now that you mention it... He can have a spot.
On December 11 2012 06:20 Kiante wrote: instead of answering in vague statements why not provide some proof that the funds exist so we can stop being skeptical?
Because this tournament is not for you, it's not for anyone in the community except for the people invited. They will receive proof very shortly... You get nothing. Just another reason to have 2 seeds, for the qualifying players to have some reassurance of what's going on.
Oh cool so you'll be providing everyone in GC with proof of the funds for that?
On December 11 2012 05:49 ninazerg wrote: Please, explain this to me.
In my somewhat skeptical inquiry, I asked:
On July 21 2012 08:30 ninazerg wrote:
On July 21 2012 06:13 ImbaTosS wrote:
On July 21 2012 05:37 dRaW wrote:
On July 20 2012 19:59 Eywa- wrote: There's been a lot of talk from Canada that they don't want to play with South America, however, until there are any sign ups at all from either of these areas, this will be ignored entirely. Like I said, Qualifications I set are likely to change pending on sign ups.
nothing was finalized, so we didn't think to start qualification point systems, Dragon and I were looking at possible players from LA+CA and you claim we're all inactive but this is a huge prize pool and likely some of these inactive people might just take a shot at it (which is what I thought we are promoting anyway, increase popularity in BW?)
Anyway, possible Players: Assault, Bizzy, Bibiane, Castro, Cute, Deska, Dinot, Dragon, Draw, Gotunk, Handy, ShuttleDance, Terror, Yan... These are only off the top of my head though, I imagine there are a few others who upon realizing the amount of $ for the tour will probably give it a shot.
Also for the Qualifiers, where do we host it(server)? How do we notify the people of that area there is a qualifier? what do we need to get the qualifier approved? [again you say we have no sign ups but you were not clear at all that we can just get started on these things, ie: if I sign up now, I still have to wait for other people to sign up before I can host any qualifiers...? ]
I think all these questions coming out are really good. If people voice all uncertainties and inconsistencies now, it will be much easier to make a fully rounded and satisfactory plan. Keep them coming
It would be great if "inactive" or very casual players would really step up their game for this. It would also be superb if players on the edge, (C+, possibly slightly intermittently practicing players like myself) would push themselves to a higher standard, and get some new faces at the top. I'm certainly going to try to do so, schedule permitting.
Oh, excellent! I'm glad you're taking this approach to the questions.
Has EywaSC procured the funds for the tournament already, or are the numbers in the original post more of a 'rough estimate'?
To which I received this reply:
On July 21 2012 08:49 Eywa- wrote:
On July 21 2012 08:30 ninazerg wrote:
On July 21 2012 06:13 ImbaTosS wrote:
On July 21 2012 05:37 dRaW wrote:
On July 20 2012 19:59 Eywa- wrote: There's been a lot of talk from Canada that they don't want to play with South America, however, until there are any sign ups at all from either of these areas, this will be ignored entirely. Like I said, Qualifications I set are likely to change pending on sign ups.
nothing was finalized, so we didn't think to start qualification point systems, Dragon and I were looking at possible players from LA+CA and you claim we're all inactive but this is a huge prize pool and likely some of these inactive people might just take a shot at it (which is what I thought we are promoting anyway, increase popularity in BW?)
Anyway, possible Players: Assault, Bizzy, Bibiane, Castro, Cute, Deska, Dinot, Dragon, Draw, Gotunk, Handy, ShuttleDance, Terror, Yan... These are only off the top of my head though, I imagine there are a few others who upon realizing the amount of $ for the tour will probably give it a shot.
Also for the Qualifiers, where do we host it(server)? How do we notify the people of that area there is a qualifier? what do we need to get the qualifier approved? [again you say we have no sign ups but you were not clear at all that we can just get started on these things, ie: if I sign up now, I still have to wait for other people to sign up before I can host any qualifiers...? ]
I think all these questions coming out are really good. If people voice all uncertainties and inconsistencies now, it will be much easier to make a fully rounded and satisfactory plan. Keep them coming
It would be great if "inactive" or very casual players would really step up their game for this. It would also be superb if players on the edge, (C+, possibly slightly intermittently practicing players like myself) would push themselves to a higher standard, and get some new faces at the top. I'm certainly going to try to do so, schedule permitting.
Oh, excellent! I'm glad you're taking this approach to the questions.
Has EywaSC procured the funds for the tournament already, or are the numbers in the original post more of a 'rough estimate'?
The funds are already locked in for the tournament, it's no estimate.
"THE FUNDS ARE ALREADY LOCKED IN FOR THE TOURNAMENT"
My God.
Still, I was perplexed by some of the odd wording of some of the posts, so I had to ask:
On July 21 2012 10:01 ninazerg wrote:
On July 21 2012 08:49 Eywa- wrote:
On July 21 2012 08:30 ninazerg wrote:
On July 21 2012 06:13 ImbaTosS wrote:
On July 21 2012 05:37 dRaW wrote:
On July 20 2012 19:59 Eywa- wrote: There's been a lot of talk from Canada that they don't want to play with South America, however, until there are any sign ups at all from either of these areas, this will be ignored entirely. Like I said, Qualifications I set are likely to change pending on sign ups.
nothing was finalized, so we didn't think to start qualification point systems, Dragon and I were looking at possible players from LA+CA and you claim we're all inactive but this is a huge prize pool and likely some of these inactive people might just take a shot at it (which is what I thought we are promoting anyway, increase popularity in BW?)
Anyway, possible Players: Assault, Bizzy, Bibiane, Castro, Cute, Deska, Dinot, Dragon, Draw, Gotunk, Handy, ShuttleDance, Terror, Yan... These are only off the top of my head though, I imagine there are a few others who upon realizing the amount of $ for the tour will probably give it a shot.
Also for the Qualifiers, where do we host it(server)? How do we notify the people of that area there is a qualifier? what do we need to get the qualifier approved? [again you say we have no sign ups but you were not clear at all that we can just get started on these things, ie: if I sign up now, I still have to wait for other people to sign up before I can host any qualifiers...? ]
I think all these questions coming out are really good. If people voice all uncertainties and inconsistencies now, it will be much easier to make a fully rounded and satisfactory plan. Keep them coming
It would be great if "inactive" or very casual players would really step up their game for this. It would also be superb if players on the edge, (C+, possibly slightly intermittently practicing players like myself) would push themselves to a higher standard, and get some new faces at the top. I'm certainly going to try to do so, schedule permitting.
Oh, excellent! I'm glad you're taking this approach to the questions.
Has EywaSC procured the funds for the tournament already, or are the numbers in the original post more of a 'rough estimate'?
The funds are already locked in for the tournament, it's no estimate.
Well, then I'm confused. Let me explain.
On July 19 2012 13:03 Shotcoder wrote:
The money has been gathered through a team effort of purchasing and manufacturing product, organizing and packaging said product and redistributing it for sale at a local level. So the funding comes from the efforts of myself, Eywa and Elegant. We are no saying you don't need to know where the money is coming from, we are just withholding information for our fundraising benefits (ie if we raised this kind of money with it what's stopping TL users from repeating and reducing the "profit" margin[I use profit loosely here because the fund go back toward more product or into tournament funding]).
You've stated that Noise is the primary fundraiser for this project. If the funds are already "locked in" like you've said, why did Noise express concerns about revealing the source of the project's income being jeopardized by copycats following the same business model? That sounds to me like the Hockey Cards haven't been sold yet, but maybe I'm misunderstanding?
To which I received the enigmatic reply:
On July 21 2012 10:23 Eywa- wrote:
On July 21 2012 10:01 ninazerg wrote:
On July 21 2012 08:49 Eywa- wrote:
On July 21 2012 08:30 ninazerg wrote:
On July 21 2012 06:13 ImbaTosS wrote:
On July 21 2012 05:37 dRaW wrote: [quote]
nothing was finalized, so we didn't think to start qualification point systems, Dragon and I were looking at possible players from LA+CA and you claim we're all inactive but this is a huge prize pool and likely some of these inactive people might just take a shot at it (which is what I thought we are promoting anyway, increase popularity in BW?)
Anyway, possible Players: Assault, Bizzy, Bibiane, Castro, Cute, Deska, Dinot, Dragon, Draw, Gotunk, Handy, ShuttleDance, Terror, Yan... These are only off the top of my head though, I imagine there are a few others who upon realizing the amount of $ for the tour will probably give it a shot.
Also for the Qualifiers, where do we host it(server)? How do we notify the people of that area there is a qualifier? what do we need to get the qualifier approved? [again you say we have no sign ups but you were not clear at all that we can just get started on these things, ie: if I sign up now, I still have to wait for other people to sign up before I can host any qualifiers...? ]
I think all these questions coming out are really good. If people voice all uncertainties and inconsistencies now, it will be much easier to make a fully rounded and satisfactory plan. Keep them coming
It would be great if "inactive" or very casual players would really step up their game for this. It would also be superb if players on the edge, (C+, possibly slightly intermittently practicing players like myself) would push themselves to a higher standard, and get some new faces at the top. I'm certainly going to try to do so, schedule permitting.
Oh, excellent! I'm glad you're taking this approach to the questions.
Has EywaSC procured the funds for the tournament already, or are the numbers in the original post more of a 'rough estimate'?
The funds are already locked in for the tournament, it's no estimate.
Well, then I'm confused. Let me explain.
On July 19 2012 13:03 Shotcoder wrote:
The money has been gathered through a team effort of purchasing and manufacturing product, organizing and packaging said product and redistributing it for sale at a local level. So the funding comes from the efforts of myself, Eywa and Elegant. We are no saying you don't need to know where the money is coming from, we are just withholding information for our fundraising benefits (ie if we raised this kind of money with it what's stopping TL users from repeating and reducing the "profit" margin[I use profit loosely here because the fund go back toward more product or into tournament funding]).
You've stated that Noise is the primary fundraiser for this project. If the funds are already "locked in" like you've said, why did Noise express concerns about revealing the source of the project's income being jeopardized by copycats following the same business model? That sounds to me like the Hockey Cards haven't been sold yet, but maybe I'm misunderstanding?
I don't see what you're trying to get that or where it says that in his post, obviously, anything can be interpreted and he knows that I don't talk much about my planning, i.e. you didn't hear about this event till I posted it, I try to perfect the product and not the speech. If you get caught up on the speech, then you're likely on the wrong track.
Really? I was on the wrong track?
Of course, yes, I must've been. Geez, how could I have been so skeptical against such an awesome kick-ass event?
On July 21 2012 20:42 LML wrote:
On July 21 2012 10:42 BWalma wrote: I can see where a lot of people are getting skeptical. Might I suggest something. I've been a caster for about 6 or 7 months now. Many people still do not hear of my name. I'm fine with that. What I can tell you is for one practice makes perfect. Consistency makes perfect. Maybe if you run enough tournaments that are successful maybe people will stop second guessing you. I'd suggest partner with ISL make it bigger if you want to "rush" this huge tournament out. I think your better off starting smaller with smaller tournaments and organizing them well and then go international with 40k prize pool.
I wish you all the best luck in your endeavor. You said looking for volunteers or something like that. I'd be happy to help any qualifiers that are online with replays. I'd be unavailable to go into Europe has I have school but just giving you some option.
You might have heard of such things as the Nation War League, Gambit Cup Season 1 and 2? Eywa also hosted several other tournaments if I am not mistaken, which also had prices. So, what else should he do?
Tbh, the reason I had trust in this, from the moment I've heard it, is simply because of Eywa's name on it. I think those who have followed his events and read his rulesets clearly notice that what Eywa has once said: the attempt to bring foreign BW to a more professional level, something alot of players sadly lack. Hence it's good someone is taking on this. But that's also the reason I believe in this event.
Jesus.
Now, really, I think I had a right to have a dose of healthy skepticism. Since you had answered all my questions, I let it go. Some of my friends told me on Skype that they thought it was "bullshit", but I said that I wasn't sure. I told them that while I disagree about Eywa's handling of almost everything, I sincerely hoped the event was a real thing. As it turns out, it's not. It never was.
On October 23 2012 14:54 ninazerg wrote: Let me just say right now that I really hope this event succeeds. I may have been skeptical about the prize-pool at first (I was like "Who has that kind of money laying around?") but even when some people I know said they thought the prize was fake, I even told them that I hoped that it wasn't fake. I honestly hope that your effort here succeeds, and even though I may have come off as antagonistic before, I apologize. I probably won't be able to come close to qualifying, and won't be able to afford a trip to Europe anytime in the foreseeable future, it's not about me.
Now, this may come as a surprise, but after some time of reflection, I would much rather just put myself out there and take a step towards reconciliation with you. After all, it's a game we both really love playing, and there is such a great community that comes with it, and I have no intention of skirmishing with you on the forums or anywhere again in the future. That's not the way I want to be, and I hope that it's not too late to make peace with you, Eywa-. That being said, forget about the grudge, I don't want it anymore or want to spend another ounce of energy on my own unnecessary negativity.
I sincerely believe that if you focus on the organization of this LAN tour, it will be a big success. Best of luck to you!
I went out of my way to get out of the way so you would have one less vocal critic, and even went so far as to ask Gecko to take a hockey card joke out of a parody magazine that we worked on. You just need to stop this, Eywa. Just stop. Nobody wants any more bullshit explanations. Just come clean and tell everyone the truth, which is that there will not be a LAN.
Also, those stupid showmatches you barely won while we both played random and you cheesed every game on stupid maps are bullshit. Time to end this once and for all.
Fact: I lied about the money because I was sure that we would be able to raise it on time. Do you think all credible organizations have stuff at the time of announce? No... You generally work out a plan which is very strong in nature and then roll out aspects simultaneously. Of course, that didn't happen, however, there will be a LAN for those few that I have respect for. When I'm working and I'm asked to travel somewhere on a given date, sometimes equipment doesn't come in till the end of the week... I mean why is that? It's because things are organized simultaneously given that without this aspect, the flow of things are just too rough and things happen later than they generally should.
As for the Grudge Match, I have played about 10 games of brood war in the past 12 months.
You are not an organization. There is no EywaSC. There won't be a LAN. Please... just stop it, and if you've only played 10 games, then get practicing.
In Order: Correct, Correct, Incorrect, absolutely not.
All right, if you don't want to practice, then I think you'll do significantly worse than normal, but that's fine I guess.
On December 11 2012 06:20 Kiante wrote: instead of answering in vague statements why not provide some proof that the funds exist so we can stop being skeptical?
Because this tournament is not for you, it's not for anyone in the community except for the people invited. They will receive proof very shortly... You get nothing. Just another reason to have 2 seeds, for the qualifying players to have some reassurance of what's going on.
Oh cool so you'll be providing everyone in GC with proof of the funds for that?
Hopefully one of those players will publish.
looking at you draw!
I'm not organizing GC... Do you have trouble with reading?
On December 11 2012 05:49 ninazerg wrote: Please, explain this to me.
In my somewhat skeptical inquiry, I asked:
On July 21 2012 08:30 ninazerg wrote:
On July 21 2012 06:13 ImbaTosS wrote:
On July 21 2012 05:37 dRaW wrote:
On July 20 2012 19:59 Eywa- wrote: There's been a lot of talk from Canada that they don't want to play with South America, however, until there are any sign ups at all from either of these areas, this will be ignored entirely. Like I said, Qualifications I set are likely to change pending on sign ups.
nothing was finalized, so we didn't think to start qualification point systems, Dragon and I were looking at possible players from LA+CA and you claim we're all inactive but this is a huge prize pool and likely some of these inactive people might just take a shot at it (which is what I thought we are promoting anyway, increase popularity in BW?)
Anyway, possible Players: Assault, Bizzy, Bibiane, Castro, Cute, Deska, Dinot, Dragon, Draw, Gotunk, Handy, ShuttleDance, Terror, Yan... These are only off the top of my head though, I imagine there are a few others who upon realizing the amount of $ for the tour will probably give it a shot.
Also for the Qualifiers, where do we host it(server)? How do we notify the people of that area there is a qualifier? what do we need to get the qualifier approved? [again you say we have no sign ups but you were not clear at all that we can just get started on these things, ie: if I sign up now, I still have to wait for other people to sign up before I can host any qualifiers...? ]
I think all these questions coming out are really good. If people voice all uncertainties and inconsistencies now, it will be much easier to make a fully rounded and satisfactory plan. Keep them coming
It would be great if "inactive" or very casual players would really step up their game for this. It would also be superb if players on the edge, (C+, possibly slightly intermittently practicing players like myself) would push themselves to a higher standard, and get some new faces at the top. I'm certainly going to try to do so, schedule permitting.
Oh, excellent! I'm glad you're taking this approach to the questions.
Has EywaSC procured the funds for the tournament already, or are the numbers in the original post more of a 'rough estimate'?
To which I received this reply:
On July 21 2012 08:49 Eywa- wrote:
On July 21 2012 08:30 ninazerg wrote:
On July 21 2012 06:13 ImbaTosS wrote:
On July 21 2012 05:37 dRaW wrote:
On July 20 2012 19:59 Eywa- wrote: There's been a lot of talk from Canada that they don't want to play with South America, however, until there are any sign ups at all from either of these areas, this will be ignored entirely. Like I said, Qualifications I set are likely to change pending on sign ups.
nothing was finalized, so we didn't think to start qualification point systems, Dragon and I were looking at possible players from LA+CA and you claim we're all inactive but this is a huge prize pool and likely some of these inactive people might just take a shot at it (which is what I thought we are promoting anyway, increase popularity in BW?)
Anyway, possible Players: Assault, Bizzy, Bibiane, Castro, Cute, Deska, Dinot, Dragon, Draw, Gotunk, Handy, ShuttleDance, Terror, Yan... These are only off the top of my head though, I imagine there are a few others who upon realizing the amount of $ for the tour will probably give it a shot.
Also for the Qualifiers, where do we host it(server)? How do we notify the people of that area there is a qualifier? what do we need to get the qualifier approved? [again you say we have no sign ups but you were not clear at all that we can just get started on these things, ie: if I sign up now, I still have to wait for other people to sign up before I can host any qualifiers...? ]
I think all these questions coming out are really good. If people voice all uncertainties and inconsistencies now, it will be much easier to make a fully rounded and satisfactory plan. Keep them coming
It would be great if "inactive" or very casual players would really step up their game for this. It would also be superb if players on the edge, (C+, possibly slightly intermittently practicing players like myself) would push themselves to a higher standard, and get some new faces at the top. I'm certainly going to try to do so, schedule permitting.
Oh, excellent! I'm glad you're taking this approach to the questions.
Has EywaSC procured the funds for the tournament already, or are the numbers in the original post more of a 'rough estimate'?
The funds are already locked in for the tournament, it's no estimate.
"THE FUNDS ARE ALREADY LOCKED IN FOR THE TOURNAMENT"
My God.
Still, I was perplexed by some of the odd wording of some of the posts, so I had to ask:
On July 21 2012 10:01 ninazerg wrote:
On July 21 2012 08:49 Eywa- wrote:
On July 21 2012 08:30 ninazerg wrote:
On July 21 2012 06:13 ImbaTosS wrote:
On July 21 2012 05:37 dRaW wrote: [quote]
nothing was finalized, so we didn't think to start qualification point systems, Dragon and I were looking at possible players from LA+CA and you claim we're all inactive but this is a huge prize pool and likely some of these inactive people might just take a shot at it (which is what I thought we are promoting anyway, increase popularity in BW?)
Anyway, possible Players: Assault, Bizzy, Bibiane, Castro, Cute, Deska, Dinot, Dragon, Draw, Gotunk, Handy, ShuttleDance, Terror, Yan... These are only off the top of my head though, I imagine there are a few others who upon realizing the amount of $ for the tour will probably give it a shot.
Also for the Qualifiers, where do we host it(server)? How do we notify the people of that area there is a qualifier? what do we need to get the qualifier approved? [again you say we have no sign ups but you were not clear at all that we can just get started on these things, ie: if I sign up now, I still have to wait for other people to sign up before I can host any qualifiers...? ]
I think all these questions coming out are really good. If people voice all uncertainties and inconsistencies now, it will be much easier to make a fully rounded and satisfactory plan. Keep them coming
It would be great if "inactive" or very casual players would really step up their game for this. It would also be superb if players on the edge, (C+, possibly slightly intermittently practicing players like myself) would push themselves to a higher standard, and get some new faces at the top. I'm certainly going to try to do so, schedule permitting.
Oh, excellent! I'm glad you're taking this approach to the questions.
Has EywaSC procured the funds for the tournament already, or are the numbers in the original post more of a 'rough estimate'?
The funds are already locked in for the tournament, it's no estimate.
Well, then I'm confused. Let me explain.
On July 19 2012 13:03 Shotcoder wrote:
The money has been gathered through a team effort of purchasing and manufacturing product, organizing and packaging said product and redistributing it for sale at a local level. So the funding comes from the efforts of myself, Eywa and Elegant. We are no saying you don't need to know where the money is coming from, we are just withholding information for our fundraising benefits (ie if we raised this kind of money with it what's stopping TL users from repeating and reducing the "profit" margin[I use profit loosely here because the fund go back toward more product or into tournament funding]).
You've stated that Noise is the primary fundraiser for this project. If the funds are already "locked in" like you've said, why did Noise express concerns about revealing the source of the project's income being jeopardized by copycats following the same business model? That sounds to me like the Hockey Cards haven't been sold yet, but maybe I'm misunderstanding?
To which I received the enigmatic reply:
On July 21 2012 10:23 Eywa- wrote:
On July 21 2012 10:01 ninazerg wrote:
On July 21 2012 08:49 Eywa- wrote:
On July 21 2012 08:30 ninazerg wrote:
On July 21 2012 06:13 ImbaTosS wrote: [quote] I think all these questions coming out are really good. If people voice all uncertainties and inconsistencies now, it will be much easier to make a fully rounded and satisfactory plan. Keep them coming
It would be great if "inactive" or very casual players would really step up their game for this. It would also be superb if players on the edge, (C+, possibly slightly intermittently practicing players like myself) would push themselves to a higher standard, and get some new faces at the top. I'm certainly going to try to do so, schedule permitting.
Oh, excellent! I'm glad you're taking this approach to the questions.
Has EywaSC procured the funds for the tournament already, or are the numbers in the original post more of a 'rough estimate'?
The funds are already locked in for the tournament, it's no estimate.
Well, then I'm confused. Let me explain.
On July 19 2012 13:03 Shotcoder wrote:
The money has been gathered through a team effort of purchasing and manufacturing product, organizing and packaging said product and redistributing it for sale at a local level. So the funding comes from the efforts of myself, Eywa and Elegant. We are no saying you don't need to know where the money is coming from, we are just withholding information for our fundraising benefits (ie if we raised this kind of money with it what's stopping TL users from repeating and reducing the "profit" margin[I use profit loosely here because the fund go back toward more product or into tournament funding]).
You've stated that Noise is the primary fundraiser for this project. If the funds are already "locked in" like you've said, why did Noise express concerns about revealing the source of the project's income being jeopardized by copycats following the same business model? That sounds to me like the Hockey Cards haven't been sold yet, but maybe I'm misunderstanding?
I don't see what you're trying to get that or where it says that in his post, obviously, anything can be interpreted and he knows that I don't talk much about my planning, i.e. you didn't hear about this event till I posted it, I try to perfect the product and not the speech. If you get caught up on the speech, then you're likely on the wrong track.
Really? I was on the wrong track?
Of course, yes, I must've been. Geez, how could I have been so skeptical against such an awesome kick-ass event?
On July 21 2012 20:42 LML wrote:
On July 21 2012 10:42 BWalma wrote: I can see where a lot of people are getting skeptical. Might I suggest something. I've been a caster for about 6 or 7 months now. Many people still do not hear of my name. I'm fine with that. What I can tell you is for one practice makes perfect. Consistency makes perfect. Maybe if you run enough tournaments that are successful maybe people will stop second guessing you. I'd suggest partner with ISL make it bigger if you want to "rush" this huge tournament out. I think your better off starting smaller with smaller tournaments and organizing them well and then go international with 40k prize pool.
I wish you all the best luck in your endeavor. You said looking for volunteers or something like that. I'd be happy to help any qualifiers that are online with replays. I'd be unavailable to go into Europe has I have school but just giving you some option.
You might have heard of such things as the Nation War League, Gambit Cup Season 1 and 2? Eywa also hosted several other tournaments if I am not mistaken, which also had prices. So, what else should he do?
Tbh, the reason I had trust in this, from the moment I've heard it, is simply because of Eywa's name on it. I think those who have followed his events and read his rulesets clearly notice that what Eywa has once said: the attempt to bring foreign BW to a more professional level, something alot of players sadly lack. Hence it's good someone is taking on this. But that's also the reason I believe in this event.
Jesus.
Now, really, I think I had a right to have a dose of healthy skepticism. Since you had answered all my questions, I let it go. Some of my friends told me on Skype that they thought it was "bullshit", but I said that I wasn't sure. I told them that while I disagree about Eywa's handling of almost everything, I sincerely hoped the event was a real thing. As it turns out, it's not. It never was.
On October 23 2012 14:54 ninazerg wrote: Let me just say right now that I really hope this event succeeds. I may have been skeptical about the prize-pool at first (I was like "Who has that kind of money laying around?") but even when some people I know said they thought the prize was fake, I even told them that I hoped that it wasn't fake. I honestly hope that your effort here succeeds, and even though I may have come off as antagonistic before, I apologize. I probably won't be able to come close to qualifying, and won't be able to afford a trip to Europe anytime in the foreseeable future, it's not about me.
Now, this may come as a surprise, but after some time of reflection, I would much rather just put myself out there and take a step towards reconciliation with you. After all, it's a game we both really love playing, and there is such a great community that comes with it, and I have no intention of skirmishing with you on the forums or anywhere again in the future. That's not the way I want to be, and I hope that it's not too late to make peace with you, Eywa-. That being said, forget about the grudge, I don't want it anymore or want to spend another ounce of energy on my own unnecessary negativity.
I sincerely believe that if you focus on the organization of this LAN tour, it will be a big success. Best of luck to you!
I went out of my way to get out of the way so you would have one less vocal critic, and even went so far as to ask Gecko to take a hockey card joke out of a parody magazine that we worked on. You just need to stop this, Eywa. Just stop. Nobody wants any more bullshit explanations. Just come clean and tell everyone the truth, which is that there will not be a LAN.
Also, those stupid showmatches you barely won while we both played random and you cheesed every game on stupid maps are bullshit. Time to end this once and for all.
Fact: I lied about the money because I was sure that we would be able to raise it on time. Do you think all credible organizations have stuff at the time of announce? No... You generally work out a plan which is very strong in nature and then roll out aspects simultaneously. Of course, that didn't happen, however, there will be a LAN for those few that I have respect for. When I'm working and I'm asked to travel somewhere on a given date, sometimes equipment doesn't come in till the end of the week... I mean why is that? It's because things are organized simultaneously given that without this aspect, the flow of things are just too rough and things happen later than they generally should.
As for the Grudge Match, I have played about 10 games of brood war in the past 12 months.
You are not an organization. There is no EywaSC. There won't be a LAN. Please... just stop it, and if you've only played 10 games, then get practicing.
In Order: Correct, Correct, Incorrect, absolutely not.
All right, if you don't want to practice, then I think you'll do significantly worse than normal, but that's fine I guess.
I'll grudge match you in Dota 2... You can even pick my hero in all games.
On December 11 2012 06:20 Kiante wrote: instead of answering in vague statements why not provide some proof that the funds exist so we can stop being skeptical?
Because this tournament is not for you, it's not for anyone in the community except for the people invited. They will receive proof very shortly... You get nothing. Just another reason to have 2 seeds, for the qualifying players to have some reassurance of what's going on.
Oh cool so you'll be providing everyone in GC with proof of the funds for that?
Hopefully one of those players will publish.
looking at you draw!
sas has a salary, I got paid for GC R1 (very small amount, I decided to be the financial adviser for sas and we went base on games won for $$ split). It was about 3 weeks late and I was skeptical about it but it came. However, I told most in sas that there won't be a R2 for GC just because of the epic shadiness. Waiting to be proven wrong, but the problem now is if the teams will even remain to compete for money or just pull out due to these circumstances. (Also for making an observation in the GC thread I was banned for 4 weeks, so I won't be too active in this scene until unbanned)
Yes you're not organising GC but according to your post and game's you're directly funding this new 1k prize pool. Surely proof of this should exist, considering you were happy to lie about the funds for the eurolan, why would the players believe the 1k is real either?
Looking at draw's post it seems like while you managed to provide the prizes for the first season, jacking up the prize pool to double would most likely leave players feeling a bit uneasy about whether the money exists? I know i'm an outsider to the league but just looking in and considering your past actions surely this is something you've considered and have an appropriate action to help resolve?
On December 11 2012 06:41 Kiante wrote: Yes you're not organising GC but according to your post and game's you're directly funding this new 1k prize pool. Surely proof of this should exist, considering you were happy to lie about the funds for the eurolan, why would the players believe the 1k is real either?
Looking at draw's post it seems like while you managed to provide the prizes for the first season, jacking up the prize pool to double would most likely leave players feeling a bit uneasy about whether the money exists? I know i'm an outsider to the league but just looking in and considering your past actions surely this is something you've considered and have an appropriate action to help resolve?
On December 11 2012 06:52 sas.ZaRaki wrote: what i dont get is why are u sponsoring bw tours/LAN's , if you think bw is not worth for u.
Finishing what I started (on some accounts more or less)... And it's easier for me to work for the money rather than obtain sponsorships which are rare and hard to find.
On December 11 2012 06:52 sas.ZaRaki wrote: what i dont get is why are u sponsoring bw tours/LAN's , if you think bw is not worth for u.
Finishing what I started (on some accounts more or less)... And it's easier for me to work for the money rather than obtain sponsorships which are rare and hard to find.
so it was worth for you when you started with this?
On December 11 2012 04:59 Game wrote: So... despite the cancelling of the open EuroLan (no I'm not dismissing this as something small), there is good news in this post. That LAN will cost a fortune to bring all the players together. I don't know the exact numbers on it, but traveling from the USA to anywhere in Europe besides England is quite a bit of money without the hotel stay or food costs. Having no LAN is his decision to make, unfortunately it's disappointing for a lot of people in this community. Fortunately however, he exponentially raised by his own merit the prize of GC R2 and is going to spend a lot of money on a LAN just to have something amazing for BW. I like how you guys are treating an announcement thread of proportions not seen since TSL2 as if Eywa- just killed each and everyone of your mothers.
"Good News Everyone! I didn't have to play a single qualifier match and get rolled by Michael or Bizzy or Bibiane! Why are you guys so mad? I don't understand!"
How the hell did you want us to respond to that?
"Omg thank god we have less money in the prize pool and this whole facade is over! I can't believe we were kept in the dark about this new awesome "Eywa's FriendZone Tour" For so long! I can't wait to see second rate foreigners who are way passed their prime play each other while the best foreigners are resigned to a waiting list! GENIUS!"
On December 11 2012 04:59 Game wrote: So... despite the cancelling of the open EuroLan (no I'm not dismissing this as something small), there is good news in this post. That LAN will cost a fortune to bring all the players together. I don't know the exact numbers on it, but traveling from the USA to anywhere in Europe besides England is quite a bit of money without the hotel stay or food costs. Having no LAN is his decision to make, unfortunately it's disappointing for a lot of people in this community. Fortunately however, he exponentially raised by his own merit the prize of GC R2 and is going to spend a lot of money on a LAN just to have something amazing for BW. I like how you guys are treating an announcement thread of proportions not seen since TSL2 as if Eywa- just killed each and everyone of your mothers.
"Good News Everyone! I didn't have to play a single qualifier match and get rolled by Michael or Bizzy or Bibiane! Why are you guys so mad? I don't understand!"
How the hell did you want us to respond to that?
"Omg thank god we have less money in the prize pool and this whole facade is over! I can't believe we were kept in the dark about this new awesome "Eywa's FriendZone Tour" For so long! I can't wait to see second rate foreigners who are way passed their prime play each other while the best foreigners are resigned to a waiting list! GENIUS!"
Your response is irrelevant... New Format: Mission Accomplished.
On December 11 2012 04:59 Game wrote: So... despite the cancelling of the open EuroLan (no I'm not dismissing this as something small), there is good news in this post. That LAN will cost a fortune to bring all the players together. I don't know the exact numbers on it, but traveling from the USA to anywhere in Europe besides England is quite a bit of money without the hotel stay or food costs. Having no LAN is his decision to make, unfortunately it's disappointing for a lot of people in this community. Fortunately however, he exponentially raised by his own merit the prize of GC R2 and is going to spend a lot of money on a LAN just to have something amazing for BW. I like how you guys are treating an announcement thread of proportions not seen since TSL2 as if Eywa- just killed each and everyone of your mothers.
"Good News Everyone! I didn't have to play a single qualifier match and get rolled by Michael or Bizzy or Bibiane! Why are you guys so mad? I don't understand!"
How the hell did you want us to respond to that?
"Omg thank god we have less money in the prize pool and this whole facade is over! I can't believe we were kept in the dark about this new awesome "Eywa's FriendZone Tour" For so long! I can't wait to see second rate foreigners who are way passed their prime play each other while the best foreigners are resigned to a waiting list! GENIUS!"
Your response is irrelevant... New Format: Mission Accomplished.
On December 11 2012 07:48 Rekrul wrote: i found an old gretzky rookie card at my parents house over thanksgiving and stole it and would like to donate it to broodwar
on ebay.com ppl r trying to sell it for 200-1000$ in general but one guy is selling it for 100,000$
i think if we can match what the guy selling it for 100,000$ is we could make this LAN happen
On December 11 2012 06:41 Kiante wrote: Yes you're not organising GC but according to your post and game's you're directly funding this new 1k prize pool. Surely proof of this should exist, considering you were happy to lie about the funds for the eurolan, why would the players believe the 1k is real either?
Looking at draw's post it seems like while you managed to provide the prizes for the first season, jacking up the prize pool to double would most likely leave players feeling a bit uneasy about whether the money exists? I know i'm an outsider to the league but just looking in and considering your past actions surely this is something you've considered and have an appropriate action to help resolve?
I won't be doing any work until the funds are in my account, so you don't need to worry about that.
Few months ago i wrote on polish sc site - netwars.pl long post why this eurolan is a scam. Noone from top players like trutacz or mazur belived me. Now few months later everything is like i said. Does it mean i motherfuckin seer?
On December 11 2012 07:48 Rekrul wrote: i found an old gretzky rookie card at my parents house over thanksgiving and stole it and would like to donate it to broodwar
on ebay.com ppl r trying to sell it for 200-1000$ in general but one guy is selling it for 100,000$
i think if we can match what the guy selling it for 100,000$ is we could make this LAN happen
Rekrul to re ignite the BW foreign scene, saw it here first.
On December 11 2012 07:48 Rekrul wrote: i found an old gretzky rookie card at my parents house over thanksgiving and stole it and would like to donate it to broodwar
on ebay.com ppl r trying to sell it for 200-1000$ in general but one guy is selling it for 100,000$
i think if we can match what the guy selling it for 100,000$ is we could make this LAN happen
try to sell it for 100k, it will sell faster than Eywa's euro lan make happen
On December 11 2012 07:48 Rekrul wrote: i found an old gretzky rookie card at my parents house over thanksgiving and stole it and would like to donate it to broodwar
on ebay.com ppl r trying to sell it for 200-1000$ in general but one guy is selling it for 100,000$
i think if we can match what the guy selling it for 100,000$ is we could make this LAN happen
Sounds more likely than the other hockey card plan, assuming that znf doesn't come through.
On December 11 2012 05:49 ninazerg wrote: Please, explain this to me.
In my somewhat skeptical inquiry, I asked:
On July 21 2012 08:30 ninazerg wrote:
On July 21 2012 06:13 ImbaTosS wrote:
On July 21 2012 05:37 dRaW wrote:
On July 20 2012 19:59 Eywa- wrote: There's been a lot of talk from Canada that they don't want to play with South America, however, until there are any sign ups at all from either of these areas, this will be ignored entirely. Like I said, Qualifications I set are likely to change pending on sign ups.
nothing was finalized, so we didn't think to start qualification point systems, Dragon and I were looking at possible players from LA+CA and you claim we're all inactive but this is a huge prize pool and likely some of these inactive people might just take a shot at it (which is what I thought we are promoting anyway, increase popularity in BW?)
Anyway, possible Players: Assault, Bizzy, Bibiane, Castro, Cute, Deska, Dinot, Dragon, Draw, Gotunk, Handy, ShuttleDance, Terror, Yan... These are only off the top of my head though, I imagine there are a few others who upon realizing the amount of $ for the tour will probably give it a shot.
Also for the Qualifiers, where do we host it(server)? How do we notify the people of that area there is a qualifier? what do we need to get the qualifier approved? [again you say we have no sign ups but you were not clear at all that we can just get started on these things, ie: if I sign up now, I still have to wait for other people to sign up before I can host any qualifiers...? ]
I think all these questions coming out are really good. If people voice all uncertainties and inconsistencies now, it will be much easier to make a fully rounded and satisfactory plan. Keep them coming
It would be great if "inactive" or very casual players would really step up their game for this. It would also be superb if players on the edge, (C+, possibly slightly intermittently practicing players like myself) would push themselves to a higher standard, and get some new faces at the top. I'm certainly going to try to do so, schedule permitting.
Oh, excellent! I'm glad you're taking this approach to the questions.
Has EywaSC procured the funds for the tournament already, or are the numbers in the original post more of a 'rough estimate'?
To which I received this reply:
On July 21 2012 08:49 Eywa- wrote:
On July 21 2012 08:30 ninazerg wrote:
On July 21 2012 06:13 ImbaTosS wrote:
On July 21 2012 05:37 dRaW wrote: [quote]
nothing was finalized, so we didn't think to start qualification point systems, Dragon and I were looking at possible players from LA+CA and you claim we're all inactive but this is a huge prize pool and likely some of these inactive people might just take a shot at it (which is what I thought we are promoting anyway, increase popularity in BW?)
Anyway, possible Players: Assault, Bizzy, Bibiane, Castro, Cute, Deska, Dinot, Dragon, Draw, Gotunk, Handy, ShuttleDance, Terror, Yan... These are only off the top of my head though, I imagine there are a few others who upon realizing the amount of $ for the tour will probably give it a shot.
Also for the Qualifiers, where do we host it(server)? How do we notify the people of that area there is a qualifier? what do we need to get the qualifier approved? [again you say we have no sign ups but you were not clear at all that we can just get started on these things, ie: if I sign up now, I still have to wait for other people to sign up before I can host any qualifiers...? ]
I think all these questions coming out are really good. If people voice all uncertainties and inconsistencies now, it will be much easier to make a fully rounded and satisfactory plan. Keep them coming
It would be great if "inactive" or very casual players would really step up their game for this. It would also be superb if players on the edge, (C+, possibly slightly intermittently practicing players like myself) would push themselves to a higher standard, and get some new faces at the top. I'm certainly going to try to do so, schedule permitting.
Oh, excellent! I'm glad you're taking this approach to the questions.
Has EywaSC procured the funds for the tournament already, or are the numbers in the original post more of a 'rough estimate'?
The funds are already locked in for the tournament, it's no estimate.
"THE FUNDS ARE ALREADY LOCKED IN FOR THE TOURNAMENT"
My God.
Still, I was perplexed by some of the odd wording of some of the posts, so I had to ask:
On July 21 2012 10:01 ninazerg wrote:
On July 21 2012 08:49 Eywa- wrote:
On July 21 2012 08:30 ninazerg wrote:
On July 21 2012 06:13 ImbaTosS wrote: [quote] I think all these questions coming out are really good. If people voice all uncertainties and inconsistencies now, it will be much easier to make a fully rounded and satisfactory plan. Keep them coming
It would be great if "inactive" or very casual players would really step up their game for this. It would also be superb if players on the edge, (C+, possibly slightly intermittently practicing players like myself) would push themselves to a higher standard, and get some new faces at the top. I'm certainly going to try to do so, schedule permitting.
Oh, excellent! I'm glad you're taking this approach to the questions.
Has EywaSC procured the funds for the tournament already, or are the numbers in the original post more of a 'rough estimate'?
The funds are already locked in for the tournament, it's no estimate.
Well, then I'm confused. Let me explain.
On July 19 2012 13:03 Shotcoder wrote:
The money has been gathered through a team effort of purchasing and manufacturing product, organizing and packaging said product and redistributing it for sale at a local level. So the funding comes from the efforts of myself, Eywa and Elegant. We are no saying you don't need to know where the money is coming from, we are just withholding information for our fundraising benefits (ie if we raised this kind of money with it what's stopping TL users from repeating and reducing the "profit" margin[I use profit loosely here because the fund go back toward more product or into tournament funding]).
You've stated that Noise is the primary fundraiser for this project. If the funds are already "locked in" like you've said, why did Noise express concerns about revealing the source of the project's income being jeopardized by copycats following the same business model? That sounds to me like the Hockey Cards haven't been sold yet, but maybe I'm misunderstanding?
To which I received the enigmatic reply:
On July 21 2012 10:23 Eywa- wrote:
On July 21 2012 10:01 ninazerg wrote:
On July 21 2012 08:49 Eywa- wrote:
On July 21 2012 08:30 ninazerg wrote: [quote]
Oh, excellent! I'm glad you're taking this approach to the questions.
Has EywaSC procured the funds for the tournament already, or are the numbers in the original post more of a 'rough estimate'?
The funds are already locked in for the tournament, it's no estimate.
Well, then I'm confused. Let me explain.
On July 19 2012 13:03 Shotcoder wrote:
The money has been gathered through a team effort of purchasing and manufacturing product, organizing and packaging said product and redistributing it for sale at a local level. So the funding comes from the efforts of myself, Eywa and Elegant. We are no saying you don't need to know where the money is coming from, we are just withholding information for our fundraising benefits (ie if we raised this kind of money with it what's stopping TL users from repeating and reducing the "profit" margin[I use profit loosely here because the fund go back toward more product or into tournament funding]).
You've stated that Noise is the primary fundraiser for this project. If the funds are already "locked in" like you've said, why did Noise express concerns about revealing the source of the project's income being jeopardized by copycats following the same business model? That sounds to me like the Hockey Cards haven't been sold yet, but maybe I'm misunderstanding?
I don't see what you're trying to get that or where it says that in his post, obviously, anything can be interpreted and he knows that I don't talk much about my planning, i.e. you didn't hear about this event till I posted it, I try to perfect the product and not the speech. If you get caught up on the speech, then you're likely on the wrong track.
Really? I was on the wrong track?
Of course, yes, I must've been. Geez, how could I have been so skeptical against such an awesome kick-ass event?
On July 21 2012 20:42 LML wrote:
On July 21 2012 10:42 BWalma wrote: I can see where a lot of people are getting skeptical. Might I suggest something. I've been a caster for about 6 or 7 months now. Many people still do not hear of my name. I'm fine with that. What I can tell you is for one practice makes perfect. Consistency makes perfect. Maybe if you run enough tournaments that are successful maybe people will stop second guessing you. I'd suggest partner with ISL make it bigger if you want to "rush" this huge tournament out. I think your better off starting smaller with smaller tournaments and organizing them well and then go international with 40k prize pool.
I wish you all the best luck in your endeavor. You said looking for volunteers or something like that. I'd be happy to help any qualifiers that are online with replays. I'd be unavailable to go into Europe has I have school but just giving you some option.
You might have heard of such things as the Nation War League, Gambit Cup Season 1 and 2? Eywa also hosted several other tournaments if I am not mistaken, which also had prices. So, what else should he do?
Tbh, the reason I had trust in this, from the moment I've heard it, is simply because of Eywa's name on it. I think those who have followed his events and read his rulesets clearly notice that what Eywa has once said: the attempt to bring foreign BW to a more professional level, something alot of players sadly lack. Hence it's good someone is taking on this. But that's also the reason I believe in this event.
Jesus.
Now, really, I think I had a right to have a dose of healthy skepticism. Since you had answered all my questions, I let it go. Some of my friends told me on Skype that they thought it was "bullshit", but I said that I wasn't sure. I told them that while I disagree about Eywa's handling of almost everything, I sincerely hoped the event was a real thing. As it turns out, it's not. It never was.
On October 23 2012 14:54 ninazerg wrote: Let me just say right now that I really hope this event succeeds. I may have been skeptical about the prize-pool at first (I was like "Who has that kind of money laying around?") but even when some people I know said they thought the prize was fake, I even told them that I hoped that it wasn't fake. I honestly hope that your effort here succeeds, and even though I may have come off as antagonistic before, I apologize. I probably won't be able to come close to qualifying, and won't be able to afford a trip to Europe anytime in the foreseeable future, it's not about me.
Now, this may come as a surprise, but after some time of reflection, I would much rather just put myself out there and take a step towards reconciliation with you. After all, it's a game we both really love playing, and there is such a great community that comes with it, and I have no intention of skirmishing with you on the forums or anywhere again in the future. That's not the way I want to be, and I hope that it's not too late to make peace with you, Eywa-. That being said, forget about the grudge, I don't want it anymore or want to spend another ounce of energy on my own unnecessary negativity.
I sincerely believe that if you focus on the organization of this LAN tour, it will be a big success. Best of luck to you!
I went out of my way to get out of the way so you would have one less vocal critic, and even went so far as to ask Gecko to take a hockey card joke out of a parody magazine that we worked on. You just need to stop this, Eywa. Just stop. Nobody wants any more bullshit explanations. Just come clean and tell everyone the truth, which is that there will not be a LAN.
Also, those stupid showmatches you barely won while we both played random and you cheesed every game on stupid maps are bullshit. Time to end this once and for all.
Fact: I lied about the money because I was sure that we would be able to raise it on time. Do you think all credible organizations have stuff at the time of announce? No... You generally work out a plan which is very strong in nature and then roll out aspects simultaneously. Of course, that didn't happen, however, there will be a LAN for those few that I have respect for. When I'm working and I'm asked to travel somewhere on a given date, sometimes equipment doesn't come in till the end of the week... I mean why is that? It's because things are organized simultaneously given that without this aspect, the flow of things are just too rough and things happen later than they generally should.
As for the Grudge Match, I have played about 10 games of brood war in the past 12 months.
You are not an organization. There is no EywaSC. There won't be a LAN. Please... just stop it, and if you've only played 10 games, then get practicing.
In Order: Correct, Correct, Incorrect, absolutely not.
All right, if you don't want to practice, then I think you'll do significantly worse than normal, but that's fine I guess.
I'll grudge match you in Dota 2... You can even pick my hero in all games.
Just one comment regarding the "only eywa's friends stuff" Eywa once banned me for a couple of weeks from Gambit Cups Season 1 for bm towards him and opponent, i then stopped playing gambit.
So that is not 100% true that he is only inviting people who he is big friends with.
On December 11 2012 22:17 dOTY wrote: Just one comment regarding the "only eywa's friends stuff" Eywa once banned me for a couple of weeks from Gambit Cups Season 1 for bm towards him and opponent, i then stopped playing gambit.
So that is not 100% true that he is only inviting people who he is big friends with.
Now now, people. You cannot say that he cannot deliver successful events. Look at this thread! Drama, grudgematches, various community figures chiming in, movies in production, the lot. We have it all! Look! When was the last time you could observe the Grim Reaper?
On December 11 2012 07:48 Rekrul wrote: i found an old gretzky rookie card at my parents house over thanksgiving and stole it and would like to donate it to broodwar
on ebay.com ppl r trying to sell it for 200-1000$ in general but one guy is selling it for 100,000$
i think if we can match what the guy selling it for 100,000$ is we could make this LAN happen
Thread Level: Successful :D
Now, if only Nina gets her grudgematch this would be perfect... + Show Spoiler +
It is a sad thing about the 38k tour for the Euro BW fans, especially for those of us living in Eastern Europe. T__T I would love to go out for a weekend of awesome bw action but guess it was not meant to be. And broken promises are one thing, but dismissing attitude about it is even worse I think.
If Advokate still plays at all and he's not number 1 in importance, there is no bigger mistake. It's kinda nice to see a tournament that Sziky isn't in, as I'm under the impression he's been treating everyone as if it were a comp stomp. A2 and Sziky. Why isn't this happening? What a tragedy. The guy beat jaedong. What's a kid got to do?
Now, if only Nina gets her grudgematch this would be perfect...
He's in Full Metal Dodge mode. He was like "I will play you 1v1 in Pokemon Stadium 2 mini-games" or something, which impulsively made me want to kick him into random hole in the ground and yell "THIS IS STARCRAFT".
Now, if only Nina gets her grudgematch this would be perfect...
He's in Full Metal Dodge mode. He was like "I will play you 1v1 in Pokemon Stadium 2 mini-games" or something, which impulsively made me want to kick him into random hole in the ground and yell "THIS IS STARCRAFT".
A grudge match in Pokemon stadium 2 mini games would by pretty hype.
Now, if only Nina gets her grudgematch this would be perfect...
He's in Full Metal Dodge mode. He was like "I will play you 1v1 in Pokemon Stadium 2 mini-games" or something, which impulsively made me want to kick him into random hole in the ground and yell "THIS IS STARCRAFT".
A grudge match in Pokemon stadium 2 mini games would by pretty hype.
Wait, he offered you a GM in Pokemon Stadium 2 mini games....and you were upset?
Now, if only Nina gets her grudgematch this would be perfect...
He's in Full Metal Dodge mode. He was like "I will play you 1v1 in Pokemon Stadium 2 mini-games" or something, which impulsively made me want to kick him into random hole in the ground and yell "THIS IS STARCRAFT".
A grudge match in Pokemon stadium 2 mini games would by pretty hype.
I would totally watch that, provided it's casted :D
Any volunteers? Perhaps we should summon TheAntZ from his hermit training for the occasion :D
On December 12 2012 00:00 GunSec wrote: rekrul, are you still playing poker? I would donate 100 $ if I still played poker but I lost my whole BR :/
If every BW fan who played poker donated just one weekend of their time and gave the profits to Eywa we'd have the original prize pool and more.
Too bad community pooling / group investment / kickstarters are usually for a product or service, not an event, since events usually aren't ongoing and it's hard for people to see where the money goes to unless it's straight into a prize pool
On December 12 2012 05:16 playa wrote: If Advokate still plays at all and he's not number 1 in importance, there is no bigger mistake. It's kinda nice to see a tournament that Sziky isn't in, as I'm under the impression he's been treating everyone as if it were a comp stomp. A2 and Sziky. Why isn't this happening? What a tragedy. The guy beat jaedong. What's a kid got to do?
advokate doesnt play at all, he probably read the original thread and thought if it was going to happen he might be interested to try. However, there were no updates and not very professional threads so he probably dropped out like most of the people are doing after the follow through.
if there is some event, hopefully there will at least be some rep cast.
Now, if only Nina gets her grudgematch this would be perfect...
He's in Full Metal Dodge mode. He was like "I will play you 1v1 in Pokemon Stadium 2 mini-games" or something, which impulsively made me want to kick him into random hole in the ground and yell "THIS IS STARCRAFT".
Well, I for one am sorry that this turned out the way it did. I won't question the motivations of the people involved in the past, instead I'm just gonna hope that the event itself goes off with out a hitch as much as possible, finish off what you started Eywa.
Now, if only Nina gets her grudgematch this would be perfect...
He's in Full Metal Dodge mode. He was like "I will play you 1v1 in Pokemon Stadium 2 mini-games" or something, which impulsively made me want to kick him into random hole in the ground and yell "THIS IS STARCRAFT".
A grudge match in Pokemon stadium 2 mini games would by pretty hype.
Wait, he offered you a GM in Pokemon Stadium 2 mini games....and you were upset?
I wasn't upset. I was like "Let's go then." and he was like "Nah, too busy." Too busy with what? KILLING ESPORTS?
On December 12 2012 10:38 Caihead wrote: Well, I for one am sorry that this turned out the way it did. I won't question the motivations of the people involved in the past, instead I'm just gonna hope that the event itself goes off with out a hitch as much as possible, finish off what you started Eywa.
Why are you sorry? Why aren't you questioning things? The premise that you should have unquestioning loyalty to anyone is asking to have your allegiance abused; and make no mistake, that's exactly what happened here. There won't be a LAN. To transport and house the number of people he is proposing to bring to this event, Eywa would need to raise an enormous sum of money single-handedly, which will almost certainly be impossible.
To transport 2 North Americans to Europe and give them a 3-star hotel by air will cost around 3,000 - 4,000 US$
How much will it additionally cost to transport 14 Europeans by train and provide them with hotels? Let's say, somehow, someway, they only stayed for 2 days. Let's say we found an uber-cheap, rat-infested hotel that let people stay for 500 dollars a week. 14 x 500 = $7,000. Add that to the North Americans' transport and hotel costs, which we will cut in half to 1,500 to 2,000 dollars just to be ridiculously parsimonious. The bill is now $10,000 without counting the train tickets.
On top of this, Eywa would have to provide a venue (which would probably be the cheapest item, but I'm not sure), food for these hungry people (eOn can eat 10 kilos of food per day), and this is just a minimalist estimate where everyone rides livestock boxcars, stay in horrible hotels that are run by cockroaches (they have taken over), eat nothing but boiled hotdogs and crackers, and plays in some cheap PC-Bang, none of which have SC:BW installed on them. It's a fiasco waiting to happen if, in fact, Eywa is so frickin' stubborn that he would rather spend 10,000+ dollars rather than admit he was wrong.
Now, if only Nina gets her grudgematch this would be perfect...
He's in Full Metal Dodge mode. He was like "I will play you 1v1 in Pokemon Stadium 2 mini-games" or something, which impulsively made me want to kick him into random hole in the ground and yell "THIS IS STARCRAFT".
A grudge match in Pokemon stadium 2 mini games would by pretty hype.
Wait, he offered you a GM in Pokemon Stadium 2 mini games....and you were upset?
I wasn't upset. I was like "Let's go then." and he was like "Nah, too busy." Too busy with what? KILLING ESPORTS?
On December 12 2012 10:38 Caihead wrote: Well, I for one am sorry that this turned out the way it did. I won't question the motivations of the people involved in the past, instead I'm just gonna hope that the event itself goes off with out a hitch as much as possible, finish off what you started Eywa.
Why are you sorry? Why aren't you questioning things? The premise that you should have unquestioning loyalty to anyone is asking to have your allegiance abused; and make no mistake, that's exactly what happened here. There won't be a LAN. To transport and house the number of people he is proposing to bring to this event, Eywa would need to raise an enormous sum of money single-handedly, which will almost certainly be impossible.
To transport 2 North Americans to Europe and give them a 3-star hotel by air will cost around 3,000 - 4,000 US$ + Show Spoiler +
How much will it additionally cost to transport 14 Europeans by train and provide them with hotels? Let's say, somehow, someway, they only stayed for 2 days. Let's say we found an uber-cheap, rat-infested hotel that let people stay for 500 dollars a week. 14 x 500 = $7,000. Add that to the North Americans' transport and hotel costs, which we will cut in half to 1,500 to 2,000 dollars just to be ridiculously parsimonious. The bill is now $10,000 without counting the train tickets.
On top of this, Eywa would have to provide a venue (which would probably be the cheapest item, but I'm not sure), food for these hungry people (eOn can eat 10 kilos of food per day), and this is just a minimalist estimate where everyone rides livestock boxcars, stay in horrible hotels that are run by cockroaches (they have taken over), eat nothing but boiled hotdogs and crackers, and plays in some cheap PC-Bang, none of which have SC:BW installed on them. It's a fiasco waiting to happen if, in fact, Eywa is so frickin' stubborn that he would rather spend 10,000+ dollars rather than admit he was wrong.
I'm sorry for BW, I'm not sorry for the individuals involved. I'm sorry if I can't express contempt or well wishes for the scene with out people questioning my ulterior motives. I want the event to actually go through well because if it does... that's good isn't it. In China the entire BW scene is run by people doing shit just because it's something they like, financial situations and personal employment be damned.
Now, if only Nina gets her grudgematch this would be perfect...
He's in Full Metal Dodge mode. He was like "I will play you 1v1 in Pokemon Stadium 2 mini-games" or something, which impulsively made me want to kick him into random hole in the ground and yell "THIS IS STARCRAFT".
A grudge match in Pokemon stadium 2 mini games would by pretty hype.
Wait, he offered you a GM in Pokemon Stadium 2 mini games....and you were upset?
I wasn't upset. I was like "Let's go then." and he was like "Nah, too busy." Too busy with what? KILLING ESPORTS?
On December 12 2012 10:38 Caihead wrote: Well, I for one am sorry that this turned out the way it did. I won't question the motivations of the people involved in the past, instead I'm just gonna hope that the event itself goes off with out a hitch as much as possible, finish off what you started Eywa.
Why are you sorry? Why aren't you questioning things? The premise that you should have unquestioning loyalty to anyone is asking to have your allegiance abused; and make no mistake, that's exactly what happened here. There won't be a LAN. To transport and house the number of people he is proposing to bring to this event, Eywa would need to raise an enormous sum of money single-handedly, which will almost certainly be impossible.
To transport 2 North Americans to Europe and give them a 3-star hotel by air will cost around 3,000 - 4,000 US$ + Show Spoiler +
How much will it additionally cost to transport 14 Europeans by train and provide them with hotels? Let's say, somehow, someway, they only stayed for 2 days. Let's say we found an uber-cheap, rat-infested hotel that let people stay for 500 dollars a week. 14 x 500 = $7,000. Add that to the North Americans' transport and hotel costs, which we will cut in half to 1,500 to 2,000 dollars just to be ridiculously parsimonious. The bill is now $10,000 without counting the train tickets.
On top of this, Eywa would have to provide a venue (which would probably be the cheapest item, but I'm not sure), food for these hungry people (eOn can eat 10 kilos of food per day), and this is just a minimalist estimate where everyone rides livestock boxcars, stay in horrible hotels that are run by cockroaches (they have taken over), eat nothing but boiled hotdogs and crackers, and plays in some cheap PC-Bang, none of which have SC:BW installed on them. It's a fiasco waiting to happen if, in fact, Eywa is so frickin' stubborn that he would rather spend 10,000+ dollars rather than admit he was wrong.
I'm sorry for BW, I'm not sorry for the individuals involved. I'm sorry if I can't express contempt or well wishes for the scene with out people questioning my ulterior motives. I want the event to actually go through well because if it does... that's good isn't it. In China the entire BW scene is run by people doing shit just because it's something they like, financial situations and personal employment be damned.
The event isn't going to happen. That's what I'm trying to explain to you.
Now, if only Nina gets her grudgematch this would be perfect...
He's in Full Metal Dodge mode. He was like "I will play you 1v1 in Pokemon Stadium 2 mini-games" or something, which impulsively made me want to kick him into random hole in the ground and yell "THIS IS STARCRAFT".
A grudge match in Pokemon stadium 2 mini games would by pretty hype.
Wait, he offered you a GM in Pokemon Stadium 2 mini games....and you were upset?
I wasn't upset. I was like "Let's go then." and he was like "Nah, too busy." Too busy with what? KILLING ESPORTS?
On December 12 2012 10:38 Caihead wrote: Well, I for one am sorry that this turned out the way it did. I won't question the motivations of the people involved in the past, instead I'm just gonna hope that the event itself goes off with out a hitch as much as possible, finish off what you started Eywa.
Why are you sorry? Why aren't you questioning things? The premise that you should have unquestioning loyalty to anyone is asking to have your allegiance abused; and make no mistake, that's exactly what happened here. There won't be a LAN. To transport and house the number of people he is proposing to bring to this event, Eywa would need to raise an enormous sum of money single-handedly, which will almost certainly be impossible.
To transport 2 North Americans to Europe and give them a 3-star hotel by air will cost around 3,000 - 4,000 US$
How much will it additionally cost to transport 14 Europeans by train and provide them with hotels? Let's say, somehow, someway, they only stayed for 2 days. Let's say we found an uber-cheap, rat-infested hotel that let people stay for 500 dollars a week. 14 x 500 = $7,000. Add that to the North Americans' transport and hotel costs, which we will cut in half to 1,500 to 2,000 dollars just to be ridiculously parsimonious. The bill is now $10,000 without counting the train tickets.
On top of this, Eywa would have to provide a venue (which would probably be the cheapest item, but I'm not sure), food for these hungry people (eOn can eat 10 kilos of food per day), and this is just a minimalist estimate where everyone rides livestock boxcars, stay in horrible hotels that are run by cockroaches (they have taken over), eat nothing but boiled hotdogs and crackers, and plays in some cheap PC-Bang, none of which have SC:BW installed on them. It's a fiasco waiting to happen if, in fact, Eywa is so frickin' stubborn that he would rather spend 10,000+ dollars rather than admit he was wrong.
huk. i can find more expensive hotels if i want ...
On December 13 2012 01:12 reps)Plumbum wrote: wow! Nice tour, great news! How and where i can register?
If you want to play, I can put you in.
Yes, i want to play.
Unfortunately you took the place of a Terran player to form an all Zerg group . Still 4 non-confirmed, if you know these people, please check with them.
Now, if only Nina gets her grudgematch this would be perfect...
He's in Full Metal Dodge mode. He was like "I will play you 1v1 in Pokemon Stadium 2 mini-games" or something, which impulsively made me want to kick him into random hole in the ground and yell "THIS IS STARCRAFT".
A grudge match in Pokemon stadium 2 mini games would by pretty hype.
Wait, he offered you a GM in Pokemon Stadium 2 mini games....and you were upset?
I wasn't upset. I was like "Let's go then." and he was like "Nah, too busy." Too busy with what? KILLING ESPORTS?
On December 12 2012 10:38 Caihead wrote: Well, I for one am sorry that this turned out the way it did. I won't question the motivations of the people involved in the past, instead I'm just gonna hope that the event itself goes off with out a hitch as much as possible, finish off what you started Eywa.
Why are you sorry? Why aren't you questioning things? The premise that you should have unquestioning loyalty to anyone is asking to have your allegiance abused; and make no mistake, that's exactly what happened here. There won't be a LAN. To transport and house the number of people he is proposing to bring to this event, Eywa would need to raise an enormous sum of money single-handedly, which will almost certainly be impossible.
To transport 2 North Americans to Europe and give them a 3-star hotel by air will cost around 3,000 - 4,000 US$ + Show Spoiler +
How much will it additionally cost to transport 14 Europeans by train and provide them with hotels? Let's say, somehow, someway, they only stayed for 2 days. Let's say we found an uber-cheap, rat-infested hotel that let people stay for 500 dollars a week. 14 x 500 = $7,000. Add that to the North Americans' transport and hotel costs, which we will cut in half to 1,500 to 2,000 dollars just to be ridiculously parsimonious. The bill is now $10,000 without counting the train tickets.
On top of this, Eywa would have to provide a venue (which would probably be the cheapest item, but I'm not sure), food for these hungry people (eOn can eat 10 kilos of food per day), and this is just a minimalist estimate where everyone rides livestock boxcars, stay in horrible hotels that are run by cockroaches (they have taken over), eat nothing but boiled hotdogs and crackers, and plays in some cheap PC-Bang, none of which have SC:BW installed on them. It's a fiasco waiting to happen if, in fact, Eywa is so frickin' stubborn that he would rather spend 10,000+ dollars rather than admit he was wrong.
I'm sorry for BW, I'm not sorry for the individuals involved. I'm sorry if I can't express contempt or well wishes for the scene with out people questioning my ulterior motives. I want the event to actually go through well because if it does... that's good isn't it. In China the entire BW scene is run by people doing shit just because it's something they like, financial situations and personal employment be damned.
The whole BW scene was started by those who thought Video Games could become sports, not by those who sought profit.
Now, if only Nina gets her grudgematch this would be perfect...
He's in Full Metal Dodge mode. He was like "I will play you 1v1 in Pokemon Stadium 2 mini-games" or something, which impulsively made me want to kick him into random hole in the ground and yell "THIS IS STARCRAFT".
A grudge match in Pokemon stadium 2 mini games would by pretty hype.
Wait, he offered you a GM in Pokemon Stadium 2 mini games....and you were upset?
I wasn't upset. I was like "Let's go then." and he was like "Nah, too busy." Too busy with what? KILLING ESPORTS?
On December 12 2012 10:38 Caihead wrote: Well, I for one am sorry that this turned out the way it did. I won't question the motivations of the people involved in the past, instead I'm just gonna hope that the event itself goes off with out a hitch as much as possible, finish off what you started Eywa.
Why are you sorry? Why aren't you questioning things? The premise that you should have unquestioning loyalty to anyone is asking to have your allegiance abused; and make no mistake, that's exactly what happened here. There won't be a LAN. To transport and house the number of people he is proposing to bring to this event, Eywa would need to raise an enormous sum of money single-handedly, which will almost certainly be impossible.
To transport 2 North Americans to Europe and give them a 3-star hotel by air will cost around 3,000 - 4,000 US$ + Show Spoiler +
How much will it additionally cost to transport 14 Europeans by train and provide them with hotels? Let's say, somehow, someway, they only stayed for 2 days. Let's say we found an uber-cheap, rat-infested hotel that let people stay for 500 dollars a week. 14 x 500 = $7,000. Add that to the North Americans' transport and hotel costs, which we will cut in half to 1,500 to 2,000 dollars just to be ridiculously parsimonious. The bill is now $10,000 without counting the train tickets.
On top of this, Eywa would have to provide a venue (which would probably be the cheapest item, but I'm not sure), food for these hungry people (eOn can eat 10 kilos of food per day), and this is just a minimalist estimate where everyone rides livestock boxcars, stay in horrible hotels that are run by cockroaches (they have taken over), eat nothing but boiled hotdogs and crackers, and plays in some cheap PC-Bang, none of which have SC:BW installed on them. It's a fiasco waiting to happen if, in fact, Eywa is so frickin' stubborn that he would rather spend 10,000+ dollars rather than admit he was wrong.
I'm sorry for BW, I'm not sorry for the individuals involved. I'm sorry if I can't express contempt or well wishes for the scene with out people questioning my ulterior motives. I want the event to actually go through well because if it does... that's good isn't it. In China the entire BW scene is run by people doing shit just because it's something they like, financial situations and personal employment be damned.
The whole BW scene was started by those who thought Video Games could become sports, not by those who sought profit.
Im sure if the organization was great we wouldn't really need financials for gaming/casting. Even a few years back there were iccup tournament casts which would reach quite a few viewers.
On December 13 2012 01:12 reps)Plumbum wrote: wow! Nice tour, great news! How and where i can register?
If you want to play, I can put you in.
Yes, i want to play.
Unfortunately you took the place of a Terran player to form an all Zerg group . Still 4 non-confirmed, if you know these people, please check with them.
A lot of people are kinda pissed that you failed them. I understand that it was a lot of work and if you pull this of it's a pay off, but you REALLY need to hold a qualifier to a wide range of people just about any B- To A+ that want's to participate should be given a chance.
On December 13 2012 01:12 reps)Plumbum wrote: wow! Nice tour, great news! How and where i can register?
If you want to play, I can put you in.
Yes, i want to play.
Unfortunately you took the place of a Terran player to form an all Zerg group . Still 4 non-confirmed, if you know these people, please check with them.
A lot of people are kinda pissed that you failed them. I understand that it was a lot of work and if you pull this of it's a pay off, but you REALLY need to hold a qualifier to a wide range of people just about any B- To A+ that want's to participate should be given a chance.
I need to sleep, breathe and take in nourishment, everything else is optional.
On December 13 2012 01:12 reps)Plumbum wrote: wow! Nice tour, great news! How and where i can register?
If you want to play, I can put you in.
Yes, i want to play.
Unfortunately you took the place of a Terran player to form an all Zerg group . Still 4 non-confirmed, if you know these people, please check with them.
A lot of people are kinda pissed that you failed them. I understand that it was a lot of work and if you pull this of it's a pay off, but you REALLY need to hold a qualifier to a wide range of people just about any B- To A+ that want's to participate should be given a chance.
I need to sleep, breathe and take in nourishment, everything else is optional.
I have grown a taste for Eywa's sarcastic quips xD
On December 13 2012 01:12 reps)Plumbum wrote: wow! Nice tour, great news! How and where i can register?
If you want to play, I can put you in.
Yes, i want to play.
Unfortunately you took the place of a Terran player to form an all Zerg group . Still 4 non-confirmed, if you know these people, please check with them.
A lot of people are kinda pissed that you failed them. I understand that it was a lot of work and if you pull this of it's a pay off, but you REALLY need to hold a qualifier to a wide range of people just about any B- To A+ that want's to participate should be given a chance.
I need to sleep, breathe and take in nourishment, everything else is optional.
I have grown a taste for Eywa's sarcastic quips xD
I have the same feeling except it's the exact opposite.
On December 13 2012 01:12 reps)Plumbum wrote: wow! Nice tour, great news! How and where i can register?
If you want to play, I can put you in.
Yes, i want to play.
Unfortunately you took the place of a Terran player to form an all Zerg group . Still 4 non-confirmed, if you know these people, please check with them.
A lot of people are kinda pissed that you failed them. I understand that it was a lot of work and if you pull this of it's a pay off, but you REALLY need to hold a qualifier to a wide range of people just about any B- To A+ that want's to participate should be given a chance.
I need to sleep, breathe and take in nourishment, everything else is optional.
I have grown a taste for Eywa's sarcastic quips xD
I have the same feeling except it's the exact opposite.
On December 13 2012 01:12 reps)Plumbum wrote: wow! Nice tour, great news! How and where i can register?
If you want to play, I can put you in.
Yes, i want to play.
Unfortunately you took the place of a Terran player to form an all Zerg group . Still 4 non-confirmed, if you know these people, please check with them.
A lot of people are kinda pissed that you failed them. I understand that it was a lot of work and if you pull this of it's a pay off, but you REALLY need to hold a qualifier to a wide range of people just about any B- To A+ that want's to participate should be given a chance.
I need to sleep, breathe and take in nourishment, everything else is optional.
I have grown a taste for Eywa's sarcastic quips xD
I have the same feeling except it's the exact opposite.
On December 13 2012 01:12 reps)Plumbum wrote: wow! Nice tour, great news! How and where i can register?
If you want to play, I can put you in.
Yes, i want to play.
Unfortunately you took the place of a Terran player to form an all Zerg group . Still 4 non-confirmed, if you know these people, please check with them.
A lot of people are kinda pissed that you failed them. I understand that it was a lot of work and if you pull this of it's a pay off, but you REALLY need to hold a qualifier to a wide range of people just about any B- To A+ that want's to participate should be given a chance.
I need to sleep, breathe and take in nourishment, everything else is optional.
I have grown a taste for Eywa's sarcastic quips xD
I have the same feeling except it's the exact opposite.
On December 13 2012 01:55 Eywa- wrote: [quote] If you want to play, I can put you in.
Yes, i want to play.
Unfortunately you took the place of a Terran player to form an all Zerg group . Still 4 non-confirmed, if you know these people, please check with them.
A lot of people are kinda pissed that you failed them. I understand that it was a lot of work and if you pull this of it's a pay off, but you REALLY need to hold a qualifier to a wide range of people just about any B- To A+ that want's to participate should be given a chance.
I need to sleep, breathe and take in nourishment, everything else is optional.
I have grown a taste for Eywa's sarcastic quips xD
I have the same feeling except it's the exact opposite.
On December 13 2012 02:05 reps)Plumbum wrote: [quote] Yes, i want to play.
Unfortunately you took the place of a Terran player to form an all Zerg group . Still 4 non-confirmed, if you know these people, please check with them.
A lot of people are kinda pissed that you failed them. I understand that it was a lot of work and if you pull this of it's a pay off, but you REALLY need to hold a qualifier to a wide range of people just about any B- To A+ that want's to participate should be given a chance.
I need to sleep, breathe and take in nourishment, everything else is optional.
I have grown a taste for Eywa's sarcastic quips xD
I have the same feeling except it's the exact opposite.
I have been following the threads about the Euro LAN for quite some time, and I must say, I am dismayed at the turn of events. I have taken it upon myself to help you out with funding by selling lemonade at a very successful lemonade stand. I got my parents to front the money to purchase the wooden stand, the lemons, the sugar, the water, and the pitcher to hold the delicious lemonade, as well as cups. Through this enterprise, I have raised a substantial sum of money, and I would like to negotiate a business proposition with the organizers of this tournament. Send me a PM if interested, let's make BroodWar happen!
I know Eywa at some point in this thread said that he doesn't want to organize these tournaments, but he can let other people do it.
Amm if possible why not give the sponsor money to TL and let them organize? The Legacy league clearly proves that they still care and that they would still do it especially with free money
On January 04 2013 03:07 thezanursic wrote: I know Eywa at some point in this thread said that he doesn't want to organize these tournaments, but he can let other people do it.
Amm if possible why not give the sponsor money to TL and let them organize? The Legacy league clearly proves that they still care and that they would still do it especially with free money
On January 04 2013 03:07 thezanursic wrote: I know Eywa at some point in this thread said that he doesn't want to organize these tournaments, but he can let other people do it.
Amm if possible why not give the sponsor money to TL and let them organize? The Legacy league clearly proves that they still care and that they would still do it especially with free money
Yeah I'm kind of on board with this. Eywa as a sponsor could do amazing things for BW, but as an organizer I don't think he has much interest. Give SBWI some money for an ISL, or let Teamliquid host GC.
On January 04 2013 03:07 thezanursic wrote: I know Eywa at some point in this thread said that he doesn't want to organize these tournaments, but he can let other people do it.
Amm if possible why not give the sponsor money to TL and let them organize? The Legacy league clearly proves that they still care and that they would still do it especially with free money
Yeah I'm kind of on board with this. Eywa as a sponsor could do amazing things for BW, but as an organizer I don't think he has much interest. Give SBWI some money for an ISL, or let Teamliquid host GC.
On January 04 2013 03:07 thezanursic wrote: I know Eywa at some point in this thread said that he doesn't want to organize these tournaments, but he can let other people do it.
Amm if possible why not give the sponsor money to TL and let them organize? The Legacy league clearly proves that they still care and that they would still do it especially with free money
Yeah I'm kind of on board with this. Eywa as a sponsor could do amazing things for BW, but as an organizer I don't think he has much interest. Give SBWI some money for an ISL, or let Teamliquid host GC.
Yeah and whoever the sponsor was Teamliquid would gladely make a banner with their name on it and it being a TL run event it surely can't fail.
On January 04 2013 03:07 thezanursic wrote: I know Eywa at some point in this thread said that he doesn't want to organize these tournaments, but he can let other people do it.
Amm if possible why not give the sponsor money to TL and let them organize? The Legacy league clearly proves that they still care and that they would still do it especially with free money
Yeah I'm kind of on board with this. Eywa as a sponsor could do amazing things for BW, but as an organizer I don't think he has much interest. Give SBWI some money for an ISL, or let Teamliquid host GC.
Ohh and I forgot to add something. A lot of people will return for the legacy (Well I don't know about a lot, but a few players who played in the 2009-2010 era are going to participate) Soo I think that it's really important that the league gets followed up by another tournament as soon as possible, but without overlapping aka ISL soo a sponsorship from somebody like Eywa would be amazing and at least for my point I would think that whatever grudge the community holds would be dropped because what would be done would be fucking amazing for foreign BW.
On January 04 2013 03:07 thezanursic wrote: I know Eywa at some point in this thread said that he doesn't want to organize these tournaments, but he can let other people do it.
Amm if possible why not give the sponsor money to TL and let them organize? The Legacy league clearly proves that they still care and that they would still do it especially with free money
Yeah I'm kind of on board with this. Eywa as a sponsor could do amazing things for BW, but as an organizer I don't think he has much interest. Give SBWI some money for an ISL, or let Teamliquid host GC.
Ohh and I forgot to add something. A lot of people will return for the legacy (Well I don't know about a lot, but a few players who played in the 2009-2010 era are going to participate) Soo I think that it's really important that the league gets followed up by another tournament as soon as possible, but without overlapping aka ISL soo a sponsorship from somebody like Eywa would be amazing and at least for my point I would think that whatever grudge the community holds would be dropped because what would be done would be fucking amazing for foreign BW.
My offer still stands, and I will support the community with my lemonade business, even though on the sign, some of the E's are written backwards. Some individuals thought the backwards E's were "Cute", however, after further review, I have concluded that ignorance is not cute, and am working to correct this indiscretion.
On January 04 2013 03:07 thezanursic wrote: I know Eywa at some point in this thread said that he doesn't want to organize these tournaments, but he can let other people do it.
Amm if possible why not give the sponsor money to TL and let them organize? The Legacy league clearly proves that they still care and that they would still do it especially with free money
Yeah I'm kind of on board with this. Eywa as a sponsor could do amazing things for BW, but as an organizer I don't think he has much interest. Give SBWI some money for an ISL, or let Teamliquid host GC.
Ohh and I forgot to add something. A lot of people will return for the legacy (Well I don't know about a lot, but a few players who played in the 2009-2010 era are going to participate) Soo I think that it's really important that the league gets followed up by another tournament as soon as possible, but without overlapping aka ISL soo a sponsorship from somebody like Eywa would be amazing and at least for my point I would think that whatever grudge the community holds would be dropped because what would be done would be fucking amazing for foreign BW.
My offer still stands, and I will support the community with my lemonade business, even though on the sign, some of the E's are written backwards. Some individuals thought the backwards E's were "Cute", however, after further review, I have concluded that ignorance is not cute, and am working to correct this indiscretion.
On January 07 2013 08:30 ninazerg wrote: My offer still stands, and I will support the community with my lemonade business, even though on the sign, some of the E's are written backwards. Some individuals thought the backwards E's were "Cute", however, after further review, I have concluded that ignorance is not cute, and am working to correct this indiscretion.
Now of course, after a statement like that you absolutely must post a picture of said sign for posterity :D
Lemonade saved many a venture, surely it can save a bw tournament!
On January 04 2013 03:07 thezanursic wrote: I know Eywa at some point in this thread said that he doesn't want to organize these tournaments, but he can let other people do it.
Amm if possible why not give the sponsor money to TL and let them organize? The Legacy league clearly proves that they still care and that they would still do it especially with free money
Yeah I'm kind of on board with this. Eywa as a sponsor could do amazing things for BW, but as an organizer I don't think he has much interest. Give SBWI some money for an ISL, or let Teamliquid host GC.
Ohh and I forgot to add something. A lot of people will return for the legacy (Well I don't know about a lot, but a few players who played in the 2009-2010 era are going to participate) Soo I think that it's really important that the league gets followed up by another tournament as soon as possible, but without overlapping aka ISL soo a sponsorship from somebody like Eywa would be amazing and at least for my point I would think that whatever grudge the community holds would be dropped because what would be done would be fucking amazing for foreign BW.
My offer still stands, and I will support the community with my lemonade business, even though on the sign, some of the E's are written backwards. Some individuals thought the backwards E's were "Cute", however, after further review, I have concluded that ignorance is not cute, and am working to correct this indiscretion.
On January 07 2013 08:30 ninazerg wrote: My offer still stands, and I will support the community with my lemonade business, even though on the sign, some of the E's are written backwards. Some individuals thought the backwards E's were "Cute", however, after further review, I have concluded that ignorance is not cute, and am working to correct this indiscretion.
Now of course, after a statement like that you absolutely must post a picture of said sign for posterity :D
Lemonade saved many a venture, surely it can save a bw tournament!
The lemonade stand is known as "Jazmine's Lemonade Parade". I originally started the venture as a means of acquiring a pony, but I have decided to allocate all of the profits to ESPORTS.
Till 19:30-19:40CET it was just me and InJo into the channel when Cryoc (my opponent) joined. We quickly agreed to start from 1-0 for me. I won him on Circuit Breaker and then played some more games for fun with him till ~20:45CET. Unfortunately, InJo's opponent (skzlime) still wasn't there by that time. So I guess that means InJo advances to the LAN with me. The other players were mostly off or they were @ iCCup playing TLS.
Matches left to be played from R2 until January 20th:
WB2 trutacz vs Pike (bo3 @Fighting Spirit, Circuit Breaker, Neo Sniper Ridge in this exact order)
Till 19:30-19:40CET it was just me and InJo into the channel when Cryoc (my opponent) joined. We quickly agreed to start from 1-0 for me. I won him on Circuit Breaker and then played some more games for fun with him till ~20:45CET. Unfortunately, InJo's opponent (skzlime) still wasn't there by that time. So I guess that means InJo advances to the LAN with me. The other players were mostly off or they were @ iCCup playing TLS.
Matches left to be played from R2 until January 20th:
WB2 trutacz vs Pike (bo3 @Fighting Spirit, Circuit Breaker, Neo Sniper Ridge in this exact order)
FR1 Cryoc vs Bakuryu / eOnzErg (bo3 @Fighting Spirit, Circuit Breaker, Neo Sniper Ridge in this exact order) FR2 Pike/Trutacz vs dOTY/ Michael (bo3 @Fighting Spirit, Circuit Breaker, Neo Sniper Ridge in this exact order) FR3 Skzlime vs Southpark/ Plumbum (bo3 @Fighting Spirit, Circuit Breaker, Neo Sniper Ridge in this exact order)
I already have told trutacz I drop out of this tour because I think it is pathetic that players have to organize the tour themself. If Eywa decides to post a statement before though, I would play. Let's see...
Its so sad that this league has no organization at all. Eywa step it up and do something. Just at least end what you have begun. Don't let the players need to organize this themselves. If you aren't able to put up a real LAN-Event then at least sponsor this 2500 $ to someone willing to organize a tournament. If you really are willing to spend this money on Broodwar event then maybe give it to TL.net Staff and let them do something with it. As you can see with TLS (about the same prizepool), they are able and willing to organize a big tournament. If this money never existed or you aren't open to spend it on BW anymore, then just say it clearly in this thread, so the players will not waste their time chasing this tournament.
You know that I am not bashing you without any reasons, so please just take this post as a good advice.
EPT
(Or I forgot you... Either way).
reps)Plumbum -C
sas.Skzlime -C
Injo
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