• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 02:36
CET 08:36
KST 16:36
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12
Community News
ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career !9Weekly Cups (Dec 8-14): MaxPax, Clem, Cure win4Weekly Cups (Dec 1-7): Clem doubles, Solar gets over the hump1Weekly Cups (Nov 24-30): MaxPax, Clem, herO win2BGE Stara Zagora 2026 announced15
StarCraft 2
General
Micro Lags When Playing SC2? ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career ! When will we find out if there are more tournament Weekly Cups (Dec 8-14): MaxPax, Clem, Cure win RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview
Tourneys
$100 Prize Pool - Winter Warp Gate Masters Showdow $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship Winter Warp Gate Amateur Showdown #1 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL Offline Finals Info - Dec 13 and 14!
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 504 Retribution Mutation # 503 Fowl Play Mutation # 502 Negative Reinforcement Mutation # 501 Price of Progress
Brood War
General
Klaucher discontinued / in-game color settings Anyone remember me from 2000s Bnet EAST server? BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ How Rain Became ProGamer in Just 3 Months FlaSh on: Biggest Problem With SnOw's Playstyle
Tourneys
[BSL21] LB QuarterFinals - Sunday 21:00 CET Small VOD Thread 2.0 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] WB SEMIFINALS - Saturday 21:00 CET
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Game Theory for Starcraft Current Meta Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread General RTS Discussion Thread Nintendo Switch Thread Mechabellum PC Games Sales Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Survivor II: The Amazon Sengoku Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread The Games Industry And ATVI US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine YouTube Thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
TL+ Announced Where to ask questions and add stream?
Blogs
The (Hidden) Drug Problem in…
TrAiDoS
I decided to write a webnov…
DjKniteX
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Thanks for the RSL
Hildegard
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1652 users

[Updated] SSL Finals licensing issues - Page 27

Forum Index > BW General
587 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 25 26 27 28 29 30 Next All
]343[
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States10328 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-15 05:30:15
November 15 2012 05:29 GMT
#521
On November 15 2012 13:45 hacklebeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2012 13:23 TrippSC2 wrote:
Blizzard does something everyone doesn't like and they are a horrible, greedy corporation that only cares about money.
Blizzard does something to immediately rectify the situation. What's the response? That the community made it happen and that Blizzard is just doing damage control.

Hate to say "I told ya so", but it goes without saying. This is why you don't jump to conclusions in the first place.

I'm very happy that the right thing has been done! Sonic is working really hard on this, the community is enjoying it and it would have been a terrible thing for the tournament to not finish.
Just please give credit to Blizzard and Mike Morhaime for making the right decision, instead of patting yourself on the back for being a keyboard warrior.


Why am I giving credit to Blizzard? They corrected an error that was their fault to begin with. They don't deserve mounds of credit for returning back to the status quo.

Your logic:
"So that dude did kidnap a girl, but he let her go 3 days later. So really, we should all be patting that guy on the back because he helped resolve a kidnapping case. What an upstanding citizen."


Wait, what? Blizzard did something legal/within their rights; your analogy doesn't really fit. It's more like "That dude took an old lady's seat on the bus, but after everyone glared at him, he got up."

Blizzard working with Sonic is not exactly angelic behavior, but not something to be dismissed so easily either.

Anyway, hoping for everything to get sorted out quickly ^^
Writer
ShiroKaisen
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1082 Posts
November 15 2012 05:30 GMT
#522
Was very disappointed when I heard about the initial situation, and extremely happy to hear that Mike worked things out for Sonic.
Dame da na, zenzen dame da ze!
Al Bundy
Profile Joined April 2010
7257 Posts
November 15 2012 05:31 GMT
#523
Thanks for the update
o choro é livre
hacklebeast
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5090 Posts
November 15 2012 05:52 GMT
#524
On November 15 2012 14:29 ]343[ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2012 13:45 hacklebeast wrote:
On November 15 2012 13:23 TrippSC2 wrote:
Blizzard does something everyone doesn't like and they are a horrible, greedy corporation that only cares about money.
Blizzard does something to immediately rectify the situation. What's the response? That the community made it happen and that Blizzard is just doing damage control.

Hate to say "I told ya so", but it goes without saying. This is why you don't jump to conclusions in the first place.

I'm very happy that the right thing has been done! Sonic is working really hard on this, the community is enjoying it and it would have been a terrible thing for the tournament to not finish.
Just please give credit to Blizzard and Mike Morhaime for making the right decision, instead of patting yourself on the back for being a keyboard warrior.


Why am I giving credit to Blizzard? They corrected an error that was their fault to begin with. They don't deserve mounds of credit for returning back to the status quo.

Your logic:
"So that dude did kidnap a girl, but he let her go 3 days later. So really, we should all be patting that guy on the back because he helped resolve a kidnapping case. What an upstanding citizen."


Wait, what? Blizzard did something legal/within their rights; your analogy doesn't really fit. It's more like "That dude took an old lady's seat on the bus, but after everyone glared at him, he got up."

Blizzard working with Sonic is not exactly angelic behavior, but not something to be dismissed so easily either.

Anyway, hoping for everything to get sorted out quickly ^^

Blizzard didn't win any court cases. The legality in Korea is still in question. Even if their "right" is upheld in a court of law: just because it was legal doesn't mean it wasn't an error on there part. Whether you want to use my analogy or yours, Blizzard shouldn't be lauded either way.
Protoss: Best, Paralyze, Jangbi, Nal_Ra || Terran: Oov, Boxer, Fantasy, Hiya|| Zerg: Yellow, Zero
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50600 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-15 06:02:26
November 15 2012 06:02 GMT
#525
On November 15 2012 13:21 ArvickHero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2012 12:46 TheEmulator wrote:
On November 15 2012 12:44 JohnChoi wrote:
On November 15 2012 12:40 TheEmulator wrote:
Someone reverse Arvick's ban, lol.

haha his ban was 6 hours hes already unbanned XD

oh, for some reason I thought it was two days.

Show nested quote +
On November 15 2012 12:22 ZodaSoda wrote:
Straight from "Fuck Blizzard" to "Props to Mike Morhaime"
Overreaction Level = to Starcraft 2 Dota 2 and LoL Drama
wheeeeeeeeeeee

These kinds of ppl will always make me laugh


good to know I make your day little more bright..
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
ironchef
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Canada1350 Posts
November 15 2012 06:20 GMT
#526
Glad it worked out!
“Because your own strength is unequal to the task, do not assume that it is beyond the powers of man; but if anything is within the powers and province of man, believe that it is within your own compass also.” - Marcus Aurelius
Drake
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany6146 Posts
November 15 2012 06:54 GMT
#527
so all blizzard haters ^^ say thank you to mr morhaime
Nb.Drake / CoL_Drake / Original Joined TL.net Tuesday, 15th of March 2005
GeLaar
Profile Joined January 2003
2421 Posts
November 15 2012 07:17 GMT
#528
On November 15 2012 15:54 CoR wrote:
so all blizzard haters ^^ say thank you to mr morhaime


"Thank you, Mr. Morhaime." (Yes, I still hate Blizzard.)

The licensing issue was insane to begin with, and that's just one of a long list of reasons to hate them.
Brood War is alive and well.
CrayonPopChoa
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Canada761 Posts
November 15 2012 07:28 GMT
#529
Wow I just read all this drama now !!! Im super glad cause I woulda gotten banned for sure lol.

If I didnt know any better id say this was some elaborate marketing ploy. This is kinda like in politics when you rile up your own base and there is nothing that can unite our base like the hatred for Blizzard lol.

Another victory for BW, we on da comeback trail yo. Next step, we get Mr. Morhaime to tweet about the finals xD
BW4LIFE
Hyde
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Australia14568 Posts
November 15 2012 08:01 GMT
#530
Oh wow, it's been resolved? That's wonderful :D
Glad M.Morhaime got on top of this when he found out, and thanks to Waxangel for letting him know <3
Because when you left, Brood War was all spotlights and titans. Now, with the death of the big leagues, Brood War has moved to the basements and carparks. Now, Brood War is unlicensed brawls, lost teeth, and bloody fights for fistfulls of money - SirJolt
Kittan
Profile Joined April 2012
Poland3999 Posts
November 15 2012 08:23 GMT
#531
Thank the heavens, the crisis is resolved! Sonic hwaiting, BW hwaiting!

TL epeen has grown substantially with this as you are all aware xD

On November 15 2012 14:17 Skeggaba wrote:
Arvickheroes ban was that hunger strike that caused Mike Mortimer to cave in. Thank you Gandhihero !

Ghandi-hero: It's over, Mike! I have the (moral) high ground!
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=81288 <--- How I fell in love with a man, a team, a game and a website in a single day... | "There are no false gods, there is only the Emperor, and Choi Yun Sung is his prophet." -> Zona 40k
Antisocialmunky
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5912 Posts
November 15 2012 08:25 GMT
#532
Wow so that's what Broodwar is like without Kespa drama..
[゚n゚] SSSSssssssSSsss ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Marine/Raven Guide:http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=163605
IntoTheEmo
Profile Joined February 2009
Singapore1169 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-15 08:43:15
November 15 2012 08:29 GMT
#533
Wow, just got through all 27 pages. Didn't actually expect anything to come out of Mike Morhaime's tweet, not after http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=350009&currentpage=94

Still, glad it all worked out? Unless they're still thinking about messing with Afreeca streams. Wouldn't be surprised if they were.

Shame I wasn't able to use my pitchfork this time , love you guys for rallying once again though
MMOs kill APM. However Proleague plus BW Proscene music increase APM -> 100. 이제동 Fighting! Highest ranked Jaedong owner in FPL10 = clearly #1 Jaedong fan~! <- Keeping my sig from 2010
ImbaTosS
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom1704 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-15 08:43:10
November 15 2012 08:35 GMT
#534
On November 15 2012 15:54 CoR wrote:
so all blizzard haters ^^ say thank you to mr morhaime

Would you shut the fuck up, with your smugness? I logged on specifically with the intention of doing so, if this issue was resolved, but I wouldn't want anyone to think that you had anything to do with my sentiments, in any way.

Nonetheless, I have no idea whether this is any kind of marketing ploy, but I suspend cynicism for the possibility that Mike Morhaime has done something really good for us here. Thank you Mike for letting great BW go ahead.
EleGant[AoV]
ShiroKaisen
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1082 Posts
November 15 2012 08:57 GMT
#535
On November 15 2012 17:29 IntoTheEmo wrote:
Wow, just got through all 27 pages. Didn't actually expect anything to come out of Mike Morhaime's tweet, not after http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=350009&currentpage=94

Still, glad it all worked out? Unless they're still thinking about messing with Afreeca streams. Wouldn't be surprised if they were.

Shame I wasn't able to use my pitchfork this time , love you guys for rallying once again though


It should be pointed out that after that message aired, it was later edited down to remove Mike's offensive comments about "StarCraft II is the future." The rest of that goes on OGN, not Blizzard, for being completely asstarded and editing Morhaime into a montage of OSL winners. I can't understand what the hell went through their heads.

It's not like Blizzard actually controls what OGN broadcasts, they didn't order them to edit that. I'll bet you OGN asked Mike to record a message and that's what he said, not knowing it was gonna go the way it did.
Dame da na, zenzen dame da ze!
Polarexia
Profile Joined November 2010
United States383 Posts
November 15 2012 08:58 GMT
#536
Faith restored.
nighcol
Profile Joined January 2012
298 Posts
November 15 2012 09:08 GMT
#537
On November 15 2012 14:52 hacklebeast wrote:
Blizzard didn't win any court cases. The legality in Korea is still in question. Even if their "right" is upheld in a court of law: just because it was legal doesn't mean it wasn't an error on there part. Whether you want to use my analogy or yours, Blizzard shouldn't be lauded either way.


Kespa settling suggests that their lawyers did not think it was winnable either. Of course you can say that pretty much every case is unique and this one would definitely have been setting a precedent but I do think Blizzard winning would be very much in line with current copyright law.
rotinegg
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States1719 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-15 09:36:59
November 15 2012 09:09 GMT
#538
Sonic says he was able to secure the same venue for December 1st, at Gun-Gook University. The event starts at 7pm KST, and everybody is welcome to come. He says rocker Park Wan Gyu and Kim Carrier are still on board as planned, so all in all everything worked out pretty well He also says you can add him on facebook at http://www.facebook.com/sogoodtt and he will try his best to communicate with you in English haha Oh i forgot to ask him about the stargirls... ._. ill ask when i talk to him again

+ Show Spoiler [Park Wan Gyu] +
Famous rocker who is also an outspoken fan of BW and SKT1/Bisu. He sang the theme song for the last OSL



+ Show Spoiler [Kim Carrier] +
Man who needs no introduction



edit: there's more.. I see another singer, a new girlgroup, a stargirl, and also a racing girl... take a look for yourself: here
Translator
chrisolo
Profile Joined May 2009
Germany2609 Posts
November 15 2012 09:14 GMT
#539
At least this drama did actually do something. I am very proud of our small but fighting community :D

And now...
+ Show Spoiler +
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO :D :D
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ - aka cReAtiVee
Golbat
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States499 Posts
November 15 2012 09:24 GMT
#540
Oh wow. Faith in Blizzard partially restored.
Like why do u use an oven instead of a fire? Coz its fucking better at cooking, that doesnt mean you want the shit to burn.
Prev 1 25 26 27 28 29 30 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 2h 25m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
WinterStarcraft723
StarCraft: Brood War
Shuttle 554
Stork 309
Leta 307
Sharp 69
Mong 58
Soma 48
Dewaltoss 40
JulyZerg 21
Noble 20
Movie 6
Dota 2
NeuroSwarm77
League of Legends
JimRising 617
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor154
Other Games
summit1g9740
Mew2King76
ToD29
Models4
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick708
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 11 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH285
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Upcoming Events
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2h 25m
Ladder Legends
9h 25m
BSL 21
12h 25m
StRyKeR vs TBD
Bonyth vs TBD
Replay Cast
1d 1h
Wardi Open
1d 4h
Monday Night Weeklies
1d 9h
WardiTV Invitational
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
WardiTV Invitational
4 days
ByuN vs Solar
Clem vs Classic
Cure vs herO
Reynor vs MaxPax
Replay Cast
5 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Acropolis #4 - TS3
RSL Offline Finals
Kuram Kup

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
YSL S2
BSL Season 21
Slon Tour Season 2
CSL Season 19: Qualifier 1
WardiTV 2025
META Madness #9
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22

Upcoming

CSL Season 19: Qualifier 2
CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Big Gabe Cup #3
OSC Championship Season 13
Nations Cup 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.