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Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
September 10 2012 12:58 GMT
#101
Hey Arvick, what are the chances for FAT to be inducted into future ProLeague? Would certainly spark out the foreign level of play even more.
2014 - ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ Raise your bows brood warriors! ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ
asel
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Germany1601 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-10 13:16:13
September 10 2012 13:16 GMT
#102
Heavily.Pumped.

i hope the event gets featured on the tl.net calender so i remember the casts
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Hyeon
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Korea (South)462 Posts
September 10 2012 15:21 GMT
#103
i really am a BW lover, but i hate what SONIC does.
Especially all who participate in this league are B level(like they were banned because of their low skills in their team), those sponsors are unknown for me... Who knows there won't be any manipulated games?

@whoever is looking for Savior
You forgot who ruined BW pro scene?
oO
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10688 Posts
September 10 2012 16:01 GMT
#104
This is amazing! Now all we need is easier access to view the streams, and for our good foreign players to participate in these events. :D This sonic guy is really helping BW so much, god bless him~ Can't wait to try to catch some of these things, and hope to get a foreigners pass soon.
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amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
September 10 2012 16:16 GMT
#105
On September 10 2012 21:58 Xiphos wrote:
Hey Arvick, what are the chances for FAT to be inducted into future ProLeague? Would certainly spark out the foreign level of play even more.


If FAT played again, would sziky play again as well?
The world is burning and you rather be on this terrible website discussing video games and your shallow feelings
Notsober
Profile Joined November 2011
France54 Posts
September 10 2012 16:18 GMT
#106
On September 10 2012 00:38 hitthat wrote:
YYYYEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!

My belief in BW has been restored.


it shoud has never disapeared ^^ !!!!
life is ;;
Notsober
Profile Joined November 2011
France54 Posts
September 10 2012 16:19 GMT
#107
On September 11 2012 00:21 Hyeon wrote:
i really am a BW lover, but i hate what SONIC does.
Especially all who participate in this league are B level(like they were banned because of their low skills in their team), those sponsors are unknown for me... Who knows there won't be any manipulated games?

@whoever is looking for Savior
You forgot who ruined BW pro scene?


where is old boy nal_ra @_@...i miss him so much !:
life is ;;
Djagulingu
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany3605 Posts
September 10 2012 16:54 GMT
#108
On September 11 2012 00:21 Hyeon wrote:
i really am a BW lover, but i hate what SONIC does.
Especially all who participate in this league are B level(like they were banned because of their low skills in their team), those sponsors are unknown for me... Who knows there won't be any manipulated games?

@whoever is looking for Savior
You forgot who ruined BW pro scene?

Well, you are right about all of it but still this is the closest thing to KeSPA BW PL out there (tell me if I'm missing out something, you're Korean and I'm not so you probably know better than me).
"windows bash is a steaming heap of shit" tofucake
Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
September 10 2012 16:54 GMT
#109
On September 10 2012 12:55 Ym1r wrote:
They seem to hate foreigners on there? I was put on mute because I spoke English, and people were telling me to "Shut my mouse ㅋㅋㅋ" (yes they said mouse)

So mean.

I got put on mute status, twice. For saying Hello. Oh well, I can still enjoy the streams.

edit:

Easiest way to watch streams on foreign IP is to download the Afreeca app.

I also got Afreeca to work for a little bit using a Korean socks5 proxy, but it was really, really laggy and terrible to use. The connection would drop a lot.

However, a more reliable way is to buy a Korean VPN (cost me $9, and gives me servers across the world, not just Korea), which I currently use. Runs perfectly fine, streams don't sit and constantly buffer like they did on my afreeca app and proxy.

Sorry, but what you did was kinda dumb. This has nothing to do with foreigner hate, TL has an English only policy too, and would ban you if you repeated posted in a different language. It is annoying for users who can't understand you on a site which is obviously Korean. The best you could hope for is someone to speak English and then have really dumb irritating small talk with you which no one else understands... Don't do that. What are you expecting.. "oh, you know Lim Yo Hwan... he gosu" "ya I watch bw for years on youtube!" ~~ waste. You would not be able to keep up with or follow the actual conversation of the channel, it would just be your own side conversation.

That is just my explanation... No offense meant to you, but don't think there is any specific foreigner hate. You just need to know the language if you want to communicate with them.
LEGEND!! LEGEND!!
ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
September 10 2012 18:34 GMT
#110
On September 10 2012 21:58 Xiphos wrote:
Hey Arvick, what are the chances for FAT to be inducted into future ProLeague? Would certainly spark out the foreign level of play even more.

I'll say unlikely, but that's simply just speculation.. ask and you shall find out hehe. I think that they'd definitely be able to organize a Sonic All-stars vs Foreign All-stars though

On September 11 2012 00:21 Hyeon wrote:
i really am a BW lover, but i hate what SONIC does.
Especially all who participate in this league are B level(like they were banned because of their low skills in their team), those sponsors are unknown for me... Who knows there won't be any manipulated games?

wait .. what? Everything about this post confuses me. First off, these are the best Sonic could get (well, except for StarCue he sucks lol). In fact, many of these players probably could beat the current KeSPA A-teamers now, because of the practice difference. And all of these "B level players" had different circumstances, not simply just "oh lol they suxxed". You would know if you watched them play that they are all incredibly skilled

Do you hate all foreigner leagues because they aren't progamer level?

As for unknown sponsors .. you didn't know these sponsors before, now you know about them .. Congrats, they have succeeded in their mission!!

And I'm appalled that you would even hint at match-fixing, really :/
Writerptrk
Stratos
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic6104 Posts
September 10 2012 20:15 GMT
#111
ArvickHero certainly living up to his name. Thank you and your friend John so much for all the hard work, didn't expect you'd come up with so much in such a short period of time
Imo one of the most important questions now is - can we get anyone to re-stream the matches? Or make the VODs accessible? If we can make that happen then we can build up a lot from that..
En Taro Violet
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6795 Posts
September 10 2012 20:34 GMT
#112
On September 11 2012 05:15 Stratos wrote:
ArvickHero certainly living up to his name. Thank you and your friend John so much for all the hard work, didn't expect you'd come up with so much in such a short period of time
Imo one of the most important questions now is - can we get anyone to re-stream the matches? Or make the VODs accessible? If we can make that happen then we can build up a lot from that..

i bless god to kjwcj and bgvrt re stream those events
Ym1r
Profile Joined May 2009
United States1164 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-10 20:35:45
September 10 2012 20:34 GMT
#113
On September 11 2012 01:54 Chef wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2012 12:55 Ym1r wrote:
They seem to hate foreigners on there? I was put on mute because I spoke English, and people were telling me to "Shut my mouse ㅋㅋㅋ" (yes they said mouse)

So mean.

I got put on mute status, twice. For saying Hello. Oh well, I can still enjoy the streams.

edit:

Easiest way to watch streams on foreign IP is to download the Afreeca app.

I also got Afreeca to work for a little bit using a Korean socks5 proxy, but it was really, really laggy and terrible to use. The connection would drop a lot.

However, a more reliable way is to buy a Korean VPN (cost me $9, and gives me servers across the world, not just Korea), which I currently use. Runs perfectly fine, streams don't sit and constantly buffer like they did on my afreeca app and proxy.

Sorry, but what you did was kinda dumb. This has nothing to do with foreigner hate, TL has an English only policy too, and would ban you if you repeated posted in a different language. It is annoying for users who can't understand you on a site which is obviously Korean. The best you could hope for is someone to speak English and then have really dumb irritating small talk with you which no one else understands... Don't do that. What are you expecting.. "oh, you know Lim Yo Hwan... he gosu" "ya I watch bw for years on youtube!" ~~ waste. You would not be able to keep up with or follow the actual conversation of the channel, it would just be your own side conversation.

That is just my explanation... No offense meant to you, but don't think there is any specific foreigner hate. You just need to know the language if you want to communicate with them.


I went to a couple of different streams and used English, they were completely fine with it. The BJ even replied to me when I asked him "Does the food taste good?" he responded with "Yes the food has is does taste good."

Yet I go to a girls stream and say hello, and they ask me if I was American (in Korean 미국), to which I responded back with Korean, yes [네]. I was instant muted.
im ji geum - ellin - eunji - spica - a pink - naeun - sojinyura - HAERYUNG<3 - Red Velvet
Sayle
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom3685 Posts
September 10 2012 20:40 GMT
#114
Just because a few streams were okay with you speaking English, doesn't mean it's the norm. Chef was spot on with his post. On my stream I routinely have anyone speaking a language besides English warned and then banned.
ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
September 10 2012 21:20 GMT
#115
On September 11 2012 05:34 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2012 05:15 Stratos wrote:
ArvickHero certainly living up to his name. Thank you and your friend John so much for all the hard work, didn't expect you'd come up with so much in such a short period of time
Imo one of the most important questions now is - can we get anyone to re-stream the matches? Or make the VODs accessible? If we can make that happen then we can build up a lot from that..

i bless god to kjwcj and bgvrt re stream those events

Sonic has his Broadcast on 24/7 and restreams past/recent events while he's sleeping/at work. So catching/recording the games live won't be a big deal, since it'd probably be better to wait for the restream due to less ppl watching(which is less lag) lol

This also means that Sonic has VODs to many the games/events he's casted. Whether or not he'll release those VODs later on, who knows ..
Writerptrk
Sinedd
Profile Joined July 2008
Poland7052 Posts
September 10 2012 23:57 GMT
#116
On September 11 2012 06:20 ArvickHero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2012 05:34 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
On September 11 2012 05:15 Stratos wrote:
ArvickHero certainly living up to his name. Thank you and your friend John so much for all the hard work, didn't expect you'd come up with so much in such a short period of time
Imo one of the most important questions now is - can we get anyone to re-stream the matches? Or make the VODs accessible? If we can make that happen then we can build up a lot from that..

i bless god to kjwcj and bgvrt re stream those events

Sonic has his Broadcast on 24/7 and restreams past/recent events while he's sleeping/at work. So catching/recording the games live won't be a big deal, since it'd probably be better to wait for the restream due to less ppl watching(which is less lag) lol

This also means that Sonic has VODs to many the games/events he's casted. Whether or not he'll release those VODs later on, who knows ..

we need a YT account for SONIC

would be SOOOO GOOD !!!
T H C makes ppl happy
Antisocialmunky
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5912 Posts
September 11 2012 00:15 GMT
#117
I wish we could post english commentary of this.
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SilSol
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden2744 Posts
September 11 2012 01:10 GMT
#118
yeah this is def amazing! wow :D
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soujiro_
Profile Joined June 2010
Uruguay5195 Posts
September 11 2012 03:08 GMT
#119
great news hope someone restream this
ace hwaiting!!
Hyeon
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Korea (South)462 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-11 05:08:04
September 11 2012 05:01 GMT
#120
On September 11 2012 03:34 ArvickHero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2012 21:58 Xiphos wrote:
Hey Arvick, what are the chances for FAT to be inducted into future ProLeague? Would certainly spark out the foreign level of play even more.

I'll say unlikely, but that's simply just speculation.. ask and you shall find out hehe. I think that they'd definitely be able to organize a Sonic All-stars vs Foreign All-stars though

Show nested quote +
On September 11 2012 00:21 Hyeon wrote:
i really am a BW lover, but i hate what SONIC does.
Especially all who participate in this league are B level(like they were banned because of their low skills in their team), those sponsors are unknown for me... Who knows there won't be any manipulated games?

wait .. what? Everything about this post confuses me. First off, these are the best Sonic could get (well, except for StarCue he sucks lol). In fact, many of these players probably could beat the current KeSPA A-teamers now, because of the practice difference. And all of these "B level players" had different circumstances, not simply just "oh lol they suxxed". You would know if you watched them play that they are all incredibly skilled

Do you hate all foreigner leagues because they aren't progamer level?

As for unknown sponsors .. you didn't know these sponsors before, now you know about them .. Congrats, they have succeeded in their mission!!

And I'm appalled that you would even hint at match-fixing, really :/



1. I agree with what you said "Sonic did best" and they are doing great(compared to foreign players), but not with "many of these B levels prob beat KeSPA players". Oh yeah, they probably win 1 out of 10. Have you thought why those players retired? Because they were not good in their internal team league. Even if KeSPA players practice sc2 now, it would be hard for B levels to beat them. Pros have their own secret skills, develop their own b.o, which B levels can't do. That's the difference, no point to discuss this.

2. I didn't say i don't watch foreign tournaments, if i hate foreign scene, why did i organize showmatches(korean vs sziky) or managing Gambit Team or organize ICCUP CL? Don't get me wrong. I love foreign scene more than Korean scene.

3. For sponsors, yes. Mission success. But i think it's waste of money for sponsors(yeah, i'm very pessimistic with this). Even KeSPA couldn't keep their players from manipulated games. Can Sonic do it? Haha.. you would say "No, they know what would happen if they do the same thing what Savior does.." But guess what? Some may know this, but those Afreeca BJs are money whore(even Sonic is afaik), they would do every thing if they can earn money. (Have you heard rumors about Pusan and Savior?) Also, if this can be THE best league, why don't major companys sponsor this?
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