EPTSOSPA - the Korean Afreeca Broodwar Scene - Page 8
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FullNatural
United States180 Posts
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Skeggaba
Korea (South)1556 Posts
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Hyeon
Korea (South)462 Posts
So you hate that Sonic is keeping the BW scene alive, simply because these are just "b gamers"? Some BW lover you are. So? Stop being sarcastic. You like what sonic does but i don't. What then? As i said, i do have my personal thought which you have, this isn't 'defending your thread' but what you said is "don't ruin my OP QQ" for me. "Also, if you say they(SOSPA/KeSPA gamers) are money whore, it's okay to manipulate games? " Don't say fucking ridiculous things, it's just like me saying "oh, so should we all just give away our money and keep none to ourselves because money-whoring is bad?" LOL you said "FUCKING RIDICULOUS" again. Why you keep saying it's fucking stupid thing, already there was a scandal and you think there won't be any? Too idealistic. Honestly, what is wrong with asking for balloons and recommend? It's how the Afreeca system is set up, what else do you expect? Do you detest waiters that expect a tip, or when there's a donation box at a website you visit? Or when a street performer does something awesome and then asks for donations .. is that so wrong? Please don't bring OFF TOPIC here. Anyway, I'm not saying Afreeca's Ballon/Recommend system, i just said their asking "balloon balloon plz" or something like that. Who do you think give them balloons? I'm sure over 50% of them are teenagers whose money came from parents. Donation? LOL isn't donations for someone/something poor or charity? Do you think they threw money to him because they want Sonic to host tour? NOPE. lol almost everyone who do that is just hope their names announced on streams LOL. Also, if you're so concerned about any sort of issue/scandal/matchfix because there's money involved, then why don't you be concerned about the Foreigner scene you so love? Foreigner scene tournaments have had their share of problems because of money, but do we burn it down because of it? No, we keep supporting it because we have a love for BW 1. I think i've already done enough thing for Foreigner scene. (Are you going to say "nope" in this case?) 2. Your logic : BW LOVE -> Scandal -> It's okay, keep loving it and 'throw money' -> Another scandal(probably) ; recycles. If you at first said "hopefully there won't be any scandal" or "i like B teamer's playing which you don't" or something like that, i wouldn't arguing here. Think how you tried to defend this thread. I have an obligation to defend this thread, so don't come in here spreading trash and expect to get off free. All i can see is just 'stop ruining my OP' here. If you want to keep defend your thread, go ahead. But i hope you stop saying "you are saying fucking shit". | ||
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Hyeon
Korea (South)462 Posts
On September 12 2012 11:26 MicrowaveMess wrote: All Kespa players are Sc2 gamers now, that's my point. I don't know how much they play on Fish but I don't see how that is relevant concerning the horrible quality of the BW games. What i meant was they were dropped from teams because of their lower acheivement in their team(some may have their personal problem but i would say whoever dropped from team, i would say they are B teamers). Yes, they are better than some random players on Fish, i don't deny that neither. But why should 'I' watch B teamers game, and manipulated games(yeah, it didn't happen yet, but who knows it won't happen)? I don't blame you with 'you shouldn't like what Sonic do'. I just said what i thought. | ||
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Hyeon
Korea (South)462 Posts
Amount of Kespa players that use Fish ladder is a lot higher than most think but it's hard to know just how widespread it is unless you're zimp. I'll let him elaborate on this point if he sees this thread and wants to. Example being that Eonzerg played Juni in his most recent rep pack released. Nice assumption. If zimp finds KeSPA played Fish, i would enjoy that too. But here's why i don't think KeSPA played a lot on fish. 1. Where are those KeSPA players on fish? a. They are playing vs 1300-1500 players to hit higher points : waste of time to play vs them. Their team mates are better than them. b. Okay, cool. Let's say suddenly unknown account(player) hit #1. That should be KeSPA gamer? Some say, yeah he is! Then what happens? There would be lots of replays of that gamer, opponents from other team d/l them and study for that. Next time, every opponents can beat them. : No one from KeSPA player want to be shared his replays. etc. Another point people aren't considering is that kespa players stopped practicing FS while people on fish have continued to play there. If there is a place where Fish can equal or better the Kespa players then it's definitely on FS. For example, when Bisu played Larva, he wasn't even using the optimal imba wall at top right. FS has changed a lot from when the Kespa players actively played it. I don't get this. Why you are bringing FS here? | ||
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Hyeon
Korea (South)462 Posts
Whoever wants to dispute, PM me. Always welcome. Have fun all. | ||
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thezanursic
5500 Posts
How many people watch these events? | ||
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Stratos
Czech Republic6104 Posts
On September 12 2012 09:54 ArvickHero wrote: Starting from the Ro16 to be specific. And the set-up seems a little strange because of Sonic's limitations (using his office space for the studio). I wouldn't say expect something on the scale of OSL/MSL or even GSL, but it's a start  Oh my goodness.. so you're saying theoretically there's still a chance to go to Korea and attend a BW match.. albeit with no stargirls and shit like that? Honestly, this is supergalactic news for newcomers like me! :D | ||
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Djagulingu
Germany3605 Posts
On September 12 2012 16:54 thezanursic wrote: I don't want to ask the obvious, but How many people watch these events? A couple hundred online i think. | ||
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Sinedd
Poland7052 Posts
lol.. I think that ALOT more than that  | ||
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stevewch
Hong Kong216 Posts
hope it can grow bigger, and is it possible to let top foreigners like fengzi/sziky join? | ||
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Djagulingu
Germany3605 Posts
On September 12 2012 20:11 stevewch wrote: omg, bw striving!!! hope it can grow bigger, and is it possible to let top foreigners like fengzi/sziky join? Sure, as long as they can get accepted by Sonic to the starleague and can go to Sonic's studio, which is in Korea if they qualify for ro16. | ||
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EquilasH
Denmark2142 Posts
Edit: I assume that it's based off of the ranking since it's their own ranking. | ||
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JohnChoi
1773 Posts
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ChApFoU
France2984 Posts
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JohnChoi
1773 Posts
On September 12 2012 16:54 thezanursic wrote: I don't want to ask the obvious, but How many people watch these events? Like on his 24/7 restream theres an average of 300~800 ppl watching and on his live streams, depending on what he is doing, viewership is anywhere from 1500~2000 people to upwards of 14000~15000. | ||
BisuDagger
Bisutopia19372 Posts
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stevewch
Hong Kong216 Posts
On September 12 2012 20:26 Djagulingu wrote: Sure, as long as they can get accepted by Sonic to the starleague and can go to Sonic's studio, which is in Korea if they qualify for ro16. oh.. that's a little bit sad, i thought it is just an online event that people from other countries can join easily. thanks for your answer though. | ||
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JohnChoi
1773 Posts
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Xiphos
Canada7507 Posts
On September 12 2012 22:48 stevewch wrote: oh.. that's a little bit sad, i thought it is just an online event that people from other countries can join easily. thanks for your answer though. stevewch, you know what to do. HINT: + Show Spoiler + Purchase yourself a ticket! | ||
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