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Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
July 05 2012 01:14 GMT
#101
On July 05 2012 09:06 brolaf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2012 03:30 Xiphos wrote:
Here is my thought about 'our future'.

We need to get started on ISL4 soon. Advertise it to China. Then use those viewership numbers to attract sponsors and at the same time get money from Twitch's Ads. Also inviting some of the Chinese players is also vital for the growth of relationship. Since C-OSL is considered as a continuous event, we might even see foreigners like Sziky taking the champion's throne and further explodes the competitive field.

In the future, we are potentially looking toward 2 Huge tournaments event (the C-OSL, ISLs) and perhaps some S.Korean amateur leagues going on. Saturated these events, and then definitely the level of play can climb back again closer to the past OSL/MSL's standard.

Not to mention, we can truly organize some sort of Clan Wars going on. S.Korea have 32 Clans Active last I've seen from
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=292211 (Super Clan League)

Foreigners have a few laying around

China have 30 Teams.

Say that we'll have 70 teams in total for Brood War. The teams do not have to play in the same server. We can have threads in all parties' perspective forum boards and upload replays. Chinese are seen to be able to play on Fish and ICCup. Koreans can play on VS Server. Rest of the world can play on Fish and ICCup (VS Server's Instruction will be translated). With 70 teams in mind, that's almost non stop BW action. We can have regular seasons going on for hours! High possibility of getting that 24/7 Brood War materials going on purposed by Eywa. Then people like Sayle, Elegant, TheShimmy Hacklebeast will be very busy as their viewership skyrockets.

In the end, I'm personally hoping that we (the global scene) will reach to a point where there will be a yearly Brood War ProLeague format with all those teams participating as one. I am going to say, although I'm really shooting dart into the shadow, that MAYBE just MAYBE we can prove to OGN that they made the biggest mistakes ever.

Just when we thought to be extincted, the community fires that nuke straight in the face of the forecasted asteroid..

advertising may be a bit tricky for the chinese though, does twitch have targeted ads for them? and the chinese audience may have a significantly smaller propensity to spend on ad goods given the lower disposable income


some community websites that are listed here function off advertising and individual merchandising, so I wouldn't worry about that
"If you're not living in the US or are a US Citizen, please do not tell us how to vote or how you want our country to be governed." - Serpest, American Hero
flashimba
Profile Joined May 2011
225 Posts
July 05 2012 01:27 GMT
#102
Is it possible to get these events listed in the calendar?
Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
July 05 2012 01:28 GMT
#103
On July 05 2012 10:27 flashimba wrote:
Is it possible to get these events listed in the calendar?


ofcourse. excuse the speed but I'm also working and been busy
"If you're not living in the US or are a US Citizen, please do not tell us how to vote or how you want our country to be governed." - Serpest, American Hero
endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
July 05 2012 02:48 GMT
#104
On July 05 2012 10:14 Caihead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2012 09:06 brolaf wrote:
On July 05 2012 03:30 Xiphos wrote:
Here is my thought about 'our future'.

We need to get started on ISL4 soon. Advertise it to China. Then use those viewership numbers to attract sponsors and at the same time get money from Twitch's Ads. Also inviting some of the Chinese players is also vital for the growth of relationship. Since C-OSL is considered as a continuous event, we might even see foreigners like Sziky taking the champion's throne and further explodes the competitive field.

In the future, we are potentially looking toward 2 Huge tournaments event (the C-OSL, ISLs) and perhaps some S.Korean amateur leagues going on. Saturated these events, and then definitely the level of play can climb back again closer to the past OSL/MSL's standard.

Not to mention, we can truly organize some sort of Clan Wars going on. S.Korea have 32 Clans Active last I've seen from
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=292211 (Super Clan League)

Foreigners have a few laying around

China have 30 Teams.

Say that we'll have 70 teams in total for Brood War. The teams do not have to play in the same server. We can have threads in all parties' perspective forum boards and upload replays. Chinese are seen to be able to play on Fish and ICCup. Koreans can play on VS Server. Rest of the world can play on Fish and ICCup (VS Server's Instruction will be translated). With 70 teams in mind, that's almost non stop BW action. We can have regular seasons going on for hours! High possibility of getting that 24/7 Brood War materials going on purposed by Eywa. Then people like Sayle, Elegant, TheShimmy Hacklebeast will be very busy as their viewership skyrockets.

In the end, I'm personally hoping that we (the global scene) will reach to a point where there will be a yearly Brood War ProLeague format with all those teams participating as one. I am going to say, although I'm really shooting dart into the shadow, that MAYBE just MAYBE we can prove to OGN that they made the biggest mistakes ever.

Just when we thought to be extincted, the community fires that nuke straight in the face of the forecasted asteroid..

advertising may be a bit tricky for the chinese though, does twitch have targeted ads for them? and the chinese audience may have a significantly smaller propensity to spend on ad goods given the lower disposable income


some community websites that are listed here function off advertising and individual merchandising, so I wouldn't worry about that


Twitch TV ads are in Chinese if your IP is Chinese. Not an issue
ॐ
Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
July 05 2012 07:27 GMT
#105
7/5 Chinese team "The." under WangFeng is attempting to sign Scan to play for them in teamleagues.
Wangfeng下的The.队在和Scan商量合作代表队参赛

"The." 's roster
http://www.liansai.net/match_playerlist.aspx?unit_id=17057
Team ranking in STL
http://www.liansai.net/unit_detail.aspx?unit_id=17057
Doing so would put him in the same team as The.jaystar among other Chinese BW former pro's and veterans.
"If you're not living in the US or are a US Citizen, please do not tell us how to vote or how you want our country to be governed." - Serpest, American Hero
Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-05 07:41:04
July 05 2012 07:40 GMT
#106
7/5 planning winner's interviews to be a regular feature once STL starts.
讨论-准备每场STL开始后每场比赛作胜方采访
planning hype interviews of top teams before STL starts.
准备STL开始之前对各大实力战队采访
"If you're not living in the US or are a US Citizen, please do not tell us how to vote or how you want our country to be governed." - Serpest, American Hero
Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
July 05 2012 07:55 GMT
#107
7/5 I got drafted into FoR, ID: FoR..Caihead
我加入FoR成为名义队员, ID: FoR..Caihead

"FoR." 's roster
http://www.liansai.net/match_playerlist.aspx?unit_id=17018
Team ranking in STL
http://www.liansai.net/unit_detail.aspx?unit_id=17018
This would put me in the same team as FoR..lovett and FoR..XiaoZi (who is also in Canada!)
"If you're not living in the US or are a US Citizen, please do not tell us how to vote or how you want our country to be governed." - Serpest, American Hero
endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
July 05 2012 07:58 GMT
#108
On July 05 2012 16:27 Caihead wrote:
7/5 Chinese team "The." under WangFeng is attempting to sign Scan to play for them in teamleagues.
Wangfeng下的The.队在和Scan商量合作代表队参赛

"The." 's roster
http://www.liansai.net/match_playerlist.aspx?unit_id=17057
Team ranking in STL
http://www.liansai.net/unit_detail.aspx?unit_id=17057
Doing so would put him in the same team as The.jaystar among other Chinese BW former pro's and veterans.


Lol the roster lists 206 players. And there are like 30 teams ? I'm curious of the average skill of the team. Like only the top 5 are like B+ skill and above, and top 20 is B-/B and above and the rest is meh, or B rank skill is like the cutoff to enter the team ?

Thanks for your efforts and updates Caihead !
ॐ
Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
July 05 2012 08:04 GMT
#109
On July 05 2012 16:58 endy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2012 16:27 Caihead wrote:
7/5 Chinese team "The." under WangFeng is attempting to sign Scan to play for them in teamleagues.
Wangfeng下的The.队在和Scan商量合作代表队参赛

"The." 's roster
http://www.liansai.net/match_playerlist.aspx?unit_id=17057
Team ranking in STL
http://www.liansai.net/unit_detail.aspx?unit_id=17057
Doing so would put him in the same team as The.jaystar among other Chinese BW former pro's and veterans.


Lol the roster lists 206 players. And there are like 30 teams ? I'm curious of the average skill of the team. Like only the top 5 are like B+ skill and above, and top 20 is B-/B and above and the rest is meh, or B rank skill is like the cutoff to enter the team ?

Thanks for your efforts and updates Caihead !


Yea the teams essentially function as clans do in Korea, they keep players / practice partners on the roster too, roughly around the top 20 get to play in the team league's official matches depending on the situation.
"If you're not living in the US or are a US Citizen, please do not tell us how to vote or how you want our country to be governed." - Serpest, American Hero
Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
July 05 2012 08:04 GMT
#110
http://bbs.8da.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=1224942&extra=
Thread in 8da about my arrival at FoR.
"If you're not living in the US or are a US Citizen, please do not tell us how to vote or how you want our country to be governed." - Serpest, American Hero
Stratos
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic6104 Posts
July 05 2012 08:06 GMT
#111
On July 04 2012 19:03 endy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2012 18:56 Caihead wrote:
Haven't updated today yet, been busy, will update with methods of getting on Chinese servers and contacts and so forth when i get to it.


Is it really worth it ? You need a Chinese ID card number to register to VS. I know you can always borrow one, but if you can borrow one, then you are very likely to have a Chinese friend that can register an account for you and tell you how to get on the VS server.

A couple of Chinese players actually visited my stream yesterday and offered to help me with getting on the server :D

Whoruxiao: hi
» could you see my worlds?
» hello, friend
» could you see my worlds and reply?
» have you ever played sc with chinese players?

Whoruxiao: welcome to chinese service station like VS,
» we have a lot of SC lovers here

Broadcaster Stratosj: I heard we can't join the server without chinese iD?

Whoruxiao: nono
» of course you can
» I can give you one
» and provide you the address
» you need to download VS station first, then login

4:05 Broadcaster Stratosj: but I think someone from teamliquid was going to make a guide for the chinese servers for us

4:05 Whoruxiao: great!!
» good idea
» we are eagle to play sc wit foreigners

4:11 Broadcaster Stratosj: you guys have an account @ teamliquid?

4:11 Whoruxiao: here is 22:12pm
» not yeah
» what's yours?
» I will regin it later

4:12 Broadcaster Stratosj: Stratos

4:12 Whoruxiao: make a friends
» ok, mark it

4:12 Broadcaster Stratosj: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=349688
» go take a look later
» see you
» thanks for stopping by
» china fighting!

4:13 Whoruxiao: you too!! hero!!!

full transcript, including some Chinese (there was also another guy but his english seemed really poor TT)+ Show Spoiler +
7289426: 没人聊天啊

Broadcaster Stratosj: » 没人聊天啊
» i don't know chinese or what it is sorry

Whoruxiao: hi
» could you see my worlds?
» hello, friend
» could you see my worlds and reply?
» have you ever played sc with chinese players?
» yes, i feel you need to enhance your TVT also

Broadcaster Stratosj: hi
» i may have played with chinese players but not sure
» you're chinese?

Whoruxiao: yes
» hi
» what's your level in ICCUP?

Broadcaster Stratosj: d/d-
» im very chobo

Whoruxiao: welcome to chinese service station like VS,
» we have a lot of SC lovers here

Broadcaster Stratosj: I heard we can't join the server without chinese iD?

Whoruxiao: nono
» of course you can
» I can give you one
» and provide you the address
» you need to download VS station first, then login

Broadcaster Stratosj: can you link me?

Whoruxiao: OK
» http://game.vsa.com.cn/vsmain/jsp/down/down.html

Claudspeed: 。。。vs平台?

Whoruxiao: 是啊
» 我叫他来VS啊

Claudspeed: 他是高手吗?

Whoruxiao: d/d-
» 你是哪位

Claudspeed: 我lv12,应该和他差不多?

Whoruxiao: 你叫什么呢,他才D-
» VS LV12比他猛吧

Claudspeed: 不清楚bw上的

Broadcaster Stratosj: haha
» the translation is really terrible

4:05 Whoruxiao: donwload vs first
» download the software first

4:05 Broadcaster Stratosj: but I think someone from teamliquid was going to make a guide for the chinese servers for us

4:05 Whoruxiao: great!!
» good idea
» we are eagle to play sc wit foreigners

4:06 Claudspeed: 你在用什么和他聊?

4:06 Whoruxiao: so, are you korean?
» english

4:06 Claudspeed: 你在哪里和他聊?
» 什么软件?

4:06 Broadcaster Stratosj: I am czech actually :D
» I know a bit korean
» do you know where czech republic is?

4:07 Whoruxiao: so i dont know, could you tell me

4:07 Broadcaster Stratosj: Middle Europe

4:07 Whoruxiao: oh, i got it
» yeah!

4:08 Broadcaster Stratosj: I re-stream chinese tournaments when I can
» really good stuff

4:08 Whoruxiao: so, are there many sc player in your contry?

4:08 Broadcaster Stratosj: I think I've restreamed CTFB last time
» and CN OSL before

4:08 Whoruxiao: yes

4:08 Broadcaster Stratosj: not really we're a small country and most people play SC2 if anything
» but I only like BW..
» there's a few czech friends that play as well

4:08 Whoruxiao: SC2 is a shit

4:09 Broadcaster Stratosj: :D:D

4:09 Whoruxiao: I like bw also
» always play this game
» for 10 years
» I am a protoss player

4:09 Broadcaster Stratosj: I've only got to know about BW 2 years ago
» so I am still very chobo

4:10 Whoruxiao: You are really playing good with much short time

4:11 Whoruxiao: oh, I got it
» what time is it now in your side?

4:11 Broadcaster Stratosj: it's 16PM now

4:11 Broadcaster Stratosj: you guys have an account @ teamliquid?

4:11 Whoruxiao: here is 22:12pm
» not yeah
» what's yours?
» I will regin it later

4:12 Broadcaster Stratosj: Stratos

4:12 Whoruxiao: make a friends
» ok, mark it

4:12 Whoruxiao: so,,,chat with you later
» I will visit the web later

4:12 Broadcaster Stratosj: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=349688
» go take a look later
» see you
» thanks for stopping by
» china fighting!

4:13 Whoruxiao: you too!! hero!!!
En Taro Violet
Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
July 05 2012 08:10 GMT
#112
On July 05 2012 17:06 Stratos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2012 19:03 endy wrote:
On July 04 2012 18:56 Caihead wrote:
Haven't updated today yet, been busy, will update with methods of getting on Chinese servers and contacts and so forth when i get to it.


Is it really worth it ? You need a Chinese ID card number to register to VS. I know you can always borrow one, but if you can borrow one, then you are very likely to have a Chinese friend that can register an account for you and tell you how to get on the VS server.

A couple of Chinese players actually visited my stream yesterday and offered to help me with getting on the server :D

Show nested quote +
Whoruxiao: hi
» could you see my worlds?
» hello, friend
» could you see my worlds and reply?
» have you ever played sc with chinese players?

Whoruxiao: welcome to chinese service station like VS,
» we have a lot of SC lovers here

Broadcaster Stratosj: I heard we can't join the server without chinese iD?

Whoruxiao: nono
» of course you can
» I can give you one
» and provide you the address
» you need to download VS station first, then login

4:05 Broadcaster Stratosj: but I think someone from teamliquid was going to make a guide for the chinese servers for us

4:05 Whoruxiao: great!!
» good idea
» we are eagle to play sc wit foreigners

4:11 Broadcaster Stratosj: you guys have an account @ teamliquid?

4:11 Whoruxiao: here is 22:12pm
» not yeah
» what's yours?
» I will regin it later

4:12 Broadcaster Stratosj: Stratos

4:12 Whoruxiao: make a friends
» ok, mark it

4:12 Broadcaster Stratosj: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=349688
» go take a look later
» see you
» thanks for stopping by
» china fighting!

4:13 Whoruxiao: you too!! hero!!!

full transcript, including some Chinese (there was also another guy but his english seemed really poor TT)+ Show Spoiler +
7289426: 没人聊天啊

Broadcaster Stratosj: » 没人聊天啊
» i don't know chinese or what it is sorry

Whoruxiao: hi
» could you see my worlds?
» hello, friend
» could you see my worlds and reply?
» have you ever played sc with chinese players?
» yes, i feel you need to enhance your TVT also

Broadcaster Stratosj: hi
» i may have played with chinese players but not sure
» you're chinese?

Whoruxiao: yes
» hi
» what's your level in ICCUP?

Broadcaster Stratosj: d/d-
» im very chobo

Whoruxiao: welcome to chinese service station like VS,
» we have a lot of SC lovers here

Broadcaster Stratosj: I heard we can't join the server without chinese iD?

Whoruxiao: nono
» of course you can
» I can give you one
» and provide you the address
» you need to download VS station first, then login

Broadcaster Stratosj: can you link me?

Whoruxiao: OK
» http://game.vsa.com.cn/vsmain/jsp/down/down.html

Claudspeed: 。。。vs平台?

Whoruxiao: 是啊
» 我叫他来VS啊

Claudspeed: 他是高手吗?

Whoruxiao: d/d-
» 你是哪位

Claudspeed: 我lv12,应该和他差不多?

Whoruxiao: 你叫什么呢,他才D-
» VS LV12比他猛吧

Claudspeed: 不清楚bw上的

Broadcaster Stratosj: haha
» the translation is really terrible

4:05 Whoruxiao: donwload vs first
» download the software first

4:05 Broadcaster Stratosj: but I think someone from teamliquid was going to make a guide for the chinese servers for us

4:05 Whoruxiao: great!!
» good idea
» we are eagle to play sc wit foreigners

4:06 Claudspeed: 你在用什么和他聊?

4:06 Whoruxiao: so, are you korean?
» english

4:06 Claudspeed: 你在哪里和他聊?
» 什么软件?

4:06 Broadcaster Stratosj: I am czech actually :D
» I know a bit korean
» do you know where czech republic is?

4:07 Whoruxiao: so i dont know, could you tell me

4:07 Broadcaster Stratosj: Middle Europe

4:07 Whoruxiao: oh, i got it
» yeah!

4:08 Broadcaster Stratosj: I re-stream chinese tournaments when I can
» really good stuff

4:08 Whoruxiao: so, are there many sc player in your contry?

4:08 Broadcaster Stratosj: I think I've restreamed CTFB last time
» and CN OSL before

4:08 Whoruxiao: yes

4:08 Broadcaster Stratosj: not really we're a small country and most people play SC2 if anything
» but I only like BW..
» there's a few czech friends that play as well

4:08 Whoruxiao: SC2 is a shit

4:09 Broadcaster Stratosj: :D:D

4:09 Whoruxiao: I like bw also
» always play this game
» for 10 years
» I am a protoss player

4:09 Broadcaster Stratosj: I've only got to know about BW 2 years ago
» so I am still very chobo

4:10 Whoruxiao: You are really playing good with much short time

4:11 Whoruxiao: oh, I got it
» what time is it now in your side?

4:11 Broadcaster Stratosj: it's 16PM now

4:11 Broadcaster Stratosj: you guys have an account @ teamliquid?

4:11 Whoruxiao: here is 22:12pm
» not yeah
» what's yours?
» I will regin it later

4:12 Broadcaster Stratosj: Stratos

4:12 Whoruxiao: make a friends
» ok, mark it

4:12 Whoruxiao: so,,,chat with you later
» I will visit the web later

4:12 Broadcaster Stratosj: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=349688
» go take a look later
» see you
» thanks for stopping by
» china fighting!

4:13 Whoruxiao: you too!! hero!!!


yea i will get to it, sorries xD
essentially you just need A chinese ID number to register, you can register multiple ones under 1 ID, so no worries.
"If you're not living in the US or are a US Citizen, please do not tell us how to vote or how you want our country to be governed." - Serpest, American Hero
Bebop07
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States291 Posts
July 05 2012 10:11 GMT
#113
Just wanted to say this is pretty awesome and exciting. Didn't know F91 still played BW..can't wait to see him in action.
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
July 05 2012 10:11 GMT
#114
On July 05 2012 17:04 Caihead wrote:
http://bbs.8da.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=1224942&extra=
Thread in 8da about my arrival at FoR.


tl admin eh?

good stuff, really appreciate what you are doing, I really hope this eventually turns into something fruitful
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
July 05 2012 10:14 GMT
#115
On July 05 2012 19:11 Cambium wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2012 17:04 Caihead wrote:
http://bbs.8da.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=1224942&extra=
Thread in 8da about my arrival at FoR.


tl admin eh?

good stuff, really appreciate what you are doing, I really hope this eventually turns into something fruitful


dahhhhh wording, lol, they know im doing this voluntarily
"If you're not living in the US or are a US Citizen, please do not tell us how to vote or how you want our country to be governed." - Serpest, American Hero
endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
July 05 2012 10:23 GMT
#116
On July 05 2012 19:11 Cambium wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2012 17:04 Caihead wrote:
http://bbs.8da.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=1224942&extra=
Thread in 8da about my arrival at FoR.


tl admin eh?

good stuff, really appreciate what you are doing, I really hope this eventually turns into something fruitful


Yeah, I thought about this too when I read that post, but Caihead is the TL Chinese relations admin in our hearts !
ॐ
Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
July 05 2012 10:27 GMT
#117
On July 05 2012 19:23 endy wrote:
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On July 05 2012 19:11 Cambium wrote:
On July 05 2012 17:04 Caihead wrote:
http://bbs.8da.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=1224942&extra=
Thread in 8da about my arrival at FoR.


tl admin eh?

good stuff, really appreciate what you are doing, I really hope this eventually turns into something fruitful


Yeah, I thought about this too when I read that post, but Caihead is the TL Chinese relations admin in our hearts !


<3
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Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
July 06 2012 03:02 GMT
#118
7/6 starting the process for interviews of teams, starting with FoR. and previous STL winner GP, preliminary structure is one team captain, one team manager, and one player from each team.
开始对队伍做采访,先采访FoR.战队和上联赛冠军GP战队,拟每队采访一个队长,一个领队,一个队员代表的形式.
"If you're not living in the US or are a US Citizen, please do not tell us how to vote or how you want our country to be governed." - Serpest, American Hero
reincremate
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
China2215 Posts
July 06 2012 03:07 GMT
#119
What does the O stand for?
Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
July 06 2012 03:17 GMT
#120
On July 06 2012 12:07 reincremate wrote:
What does the O stand for?


In C-OSL? "Our Starcraft League"
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