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On July 09 2005 13:22 pirate cod wrote:
Anyone who's blaming ToT for this is an idiot - there's really not much else to say - it's not ToT's fault they're good at this game and not pG Orga's fault for wanting to sponsor a good active team. I'll admit it was unfair and really fucking lame to let Eriador stay and then kick out Draco and Raven among maybe one or two others based on the fact Mondragon didn't like them.
Control i wouldn't bother posting because half the stuff you're talking about dosn't make much sense and the other half makes you look like a retard - just stop.
haha
And one more thing about Draco, maybe he wasnt kicked at all. Maybe he was offered to stay and be a ToT [pG] kind like the others and decided to tell [pG]/mondi to go suicide or something, WHO KNOWS..
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Dammit Draco 3-2 Trek ... Draco is a combine of art and technic... Sometimes we see many good players that just want to play beautifull style and they lost because of that.. Draco is exactly the same bu he win.. His PvZ Style is really really good and he wins lots of games.. 1st Mondi, then Paul, now Trek.. Why you are saying that he is just good?? He is Underated.. Thats it!!
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Yes and now he just beat Trek PVZ 3-2. Hes in the finals, awaiting the winner of the losers bracket.
Btw, all that happend was that ToT gained Eriador, hey thats a good thing. Overall? Not a chance, they lost much more than they gained. Open your eyes.
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United States4471 Posts
People should wait until they have more information before they start crying out in outrage and attacking others. Wait and see what happens, then make an INFORMED opinion. Right now the problem is that very few people are informed and people are making assumptions left and right.
Control made an effort to let people in on what's going on, but unfortunately was only able to make things worse. Noble effort, but the way in which he posted managed to alienate more people than the mere announcement. It probably doesn't help that Control has made similar posts about the lack of appreciation for ToT in the past, and so there's been bitterness built up from other threads.
Regardless, I'd recommend trying to see that Control, while he may not be the best at diplomacy, was simply trying to clear up the many questions people had when the announcement was made. Consider Eri's post and try to withhold making opinions until more facts are known. Try not to leap to conclusions prematurely, and don't mix up your dissatisfaction with Control's posts with your feelings about the ToT -> pg change.
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This is my opinion but Eri if you REALLY were an advocate for competition among the foreign community and not just a huge fucking monopoly like this is, you and Zia could EASILY start another clan with members not in the new pG bullshit and be a damn good competitor.
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On July 09 2005 13:41 XaI)CyRiC wrote:
People should wait until they have more information before they start crying out in outrage and attacking others. Wait and see what happens, then make an INFORMED opinion. Right now the problem is that very few people are informed and people are making assumptions left and right.
Control made an effort to let people in on what's going on, but unfortunately was only able to make things worse. Noble effort, but the way in which he posted managed to alienate more people than the mere announcement. It probably doesn't help that Control has made similar posts about the lack of appreciation for ToT in the past, and so there's been bitterness built up from other threads.
Regardless, I'd recommend trying to see that Control, while he may not be the best at diplomacy, was simply trying to clear up the many questions people had when the announcement was made. Consider Eri's post and try to withhold making opinions until more facts are known. Try not to leap to conclusions prematurely, and don't mix up your dissatisfaction with Control's posts with your feelings about the ToT -> pg change.
excellent post, as usual.
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actually, several days ago, zia was quite ecstatic about the invite i extended her for NuT.. so i dunno about this pG shit
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On July 09 2005 13:43 Ack1027 wrote:
This is my opinion but Eri if you REALLY were an advocate for competition among the foreign community and not just a huge fucking monopoly like this is, you and Zia could EASILY start another clan with members not in the new pG bullshit and be a damn good competitor.
that would take countless hours of effort from him, and many other people.
thats asking a lot from someone who simply 'doesn't prefer monopolies'.
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is awesome32282 Posts
This thread should be named Eri joins the darkside. Zia follows or viceversa :/
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On July 09 2005 13:47 Mandalor wrote:
just join Lehnitz t.t
yeah their CS team kicks ass, might as well make their BW team kickass also ^^
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eri made everything better.hes just so lovable.noone can flame eri its just not possible 
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Belgium9953 Posts
yeah I hope eri will leave and I cant get why Mondragon 'doesnt like' the old pg members but 'likes' testie ie
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Since when is heXer an old school ToT player?
I mean he has been around awhile, but he definetly shouldn't classified as "old school ToT" imo at least.
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rob isnt old school either he was pG before ToT 
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I don't see why this matters. pG sponsors saw (finally) that their team wasn't doing anything as a team and grabbed a new squad that's active in clanwars. Old members that were active only as individuals with the pG tag were not invited back (yet). pG had already lost their two most long-standing and high-level players. pG was not competing with ToT in any way. The foreign clanwar scene on the top level is quite dead anyway, the "monopoly" didn't actually mean anything.
Furthermore....how does this affect 99% of the posters in this thread? No replays of ToT vs pG?
The only people who have any cause to be angry are pG (ex) members. Do you all feel obligated to stand up for them? I'm sure they can all get sponsored to go to tournaments without pG.
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is awesome32282 Posts
Its a discussion Forum, we discuss wether you like it or not :S
btw im not flming in Eri, its just that his post is "not-so-Eri" : [ wheres all that love!!!!!! T_T???
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I always wondered when Mondragon (age 18 or 19 right now) would show the immaturity of his age. He's done a fine job of that recently.
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i just wanna say 2 things.
Basically, mondi isnt a bad person ... nor is he selfish or bad manner.
pG gave mondi full power to design his own team, and in that team there wasnt room for everyone also considering most pG players are inactive.
Some ppl in pG are tho active like satanik and draco... but i dont think most ToTers know these ppl and also i dont think testie and draco get along very well so, is it really that retarded that he was hmm, "kicked" ? : P
nobody is saying draco is bad, infact he is very good ... but thats not the reason why he was " kicked.".. i thought that was pretty obvious.
Also i followed mondi cuz i trust him, and i think this will turn out good , altho i feel bad for some old pG members ;O
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