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taDa
Profile Joined October 2004
575 Posts
July 09 2005 06:03 GMT
#221
Eri banged it right on the nail.
GG
Asta
Profile Joined October 2002
Germany3491 Posts
July 09 2005 06:10 GMT
#222
ok now that most facts are out... i think this _is_ a bit weird or 'unfair'. i understand that if mondi is given the task to create a team he won't take ppl in whom he dislikes - as eri said, it doesn't work if there is one leader and he has personal problems with a team member. but in this case it's different because mondi wasn't exactly given the task to create a team from scratch but rather did he join pG and therefore everyone of the old members should have more to say about the team than him. it's just wrong that he as a new member can kick the others. but of course that's not his fault but the fault of the management. i don't know who's in charge at pG right now but every german broodwar player (except for like 10) knows the pG management for their often biased or "unfair" choices (at least reportedly) in the past so that's nothing new.
the other strange thing is that pG is supposed to be a pro-team and a pro-team should go 100% by skill when selecting members. obviously mondragon (as a member himself) is the wrong person to compose such a team. once again this lies in the hands of the management and is thus is their fault (if it is a fault). but in my opinion that makes the team more sympathic although i'm sure now that someone who's got a lot to say at pG is a little bit confused. =)
one might say mondragon shouldn't have accepted the deal out of respect for draco and the other old members who will get kicked but i guess you cannot expect him to be a true samaritan. in the end it's a great opportunity for him and for every other member of the new pG.
SP)diQ
Profile Joined May 2005
1107 Posts
July 09 2005 06:13 GMT
#223
OMG ! Did i miss smth ?!? When did Strafe quit playing =?
ToT)BrAiN(
Profile Joined March 2003
Austria899 Posts
July 09 2005 06:26 GMT
#224
when he started to play poker =)
Xeroth
Profile Joined July 2005
United States432 Posts
July 09 2005 06:27 GMT
#225
Hexer was ToT, he should have stayed.
Everyones favorite hick.
b(O.o)p
Profile Joined November 2004
699 Posts
July 09 2005 06:32 GMT
#226
On July 09 2005 12:31 -_- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2005 12:11 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
their really isnt anything tot can do without having half the bw community bitch at it. Gets kinda old.


Not really. Recently, the community has consisently been with you. Everyone is heckled over the internet, and for a team in the spotlight, ToT has been treated pretty well. Oh, there was the time when you failed to collect replays for a clan war you lost, then collected them for one you won, but even then I doubt there was a half-and-half split. (there were other times, but really, you weren't flamed that badly in ANY of them, what are you talking about?)

Seriously, it's sounding more and more like some of you like to bask in self-pity and chat about how the broodwar community sucks and you're saints for putting up with us. Honestly, hovz, despite leaving tl.net for about year, is flamed about as much as you guys. Give me a break. People can speak their opinion here. If a majority of us look at an issue in a way you don't, there is a teensy, tinsy, chance that you in your amazing wisdom might be wrong and us right.

About this particular issue, I don't know yet. My first impression is that you burned some pretty useful bridges, but I can't even be sure about that until things play out and info. is released.


agree! especially on the first part! the people here at tl.net have been giving you a lot of credits for your work for the community a.s.o. (i'm not talking about the gg.net community who most of them are just flaming morons) and now they just can't understand what happened (like me) ! 1. you control were one who always said that ToT does not give a shit about money and so on...ToT stood for a bunch of amazing players who had a lot of fun playing this game and representing it in the world - so why take such a step? 2. to be honest i disliked pG and their way of representing their clan(in short they didn'T give a shit about it), BUT to kick them all out of their clan is kind of harsh and not really mature...i mean if they did want to leave on their own ok, but why kick them...ok, kick the inactive players but why all so drastically?....well....it just seems that ToT just changed their believes and for what they stood for from one day to another...i don'T really get it...
the man known for his ANACONDA :)
pighoe
Profile Joined November 2004
Sweden105 Posts
July 09 2005 06:36 GMT
#227
this is exactly when [aNc] becomes aNc-

I remember when i was [aNc] and one day when I log on b.net ppl told me that the whole clan has been kicked because we got a new leader or something like that.
bine
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States2352 Posts
July 09 2005 06:41 GMT
#228
is this a joke?
Assamite[DS]
Profile Joined September 2004
Poland53 Posts
July 09 2005 06:43 GMT
#229
no it isnt unfortunatlly
b(O.o)p
Profile Joined November 2004
699 Posts
July 09 2005 06:44 GMT
#230
On July 09 2005 13:18 Liquid`Drone wrote:
hehe good post blackjack

okay
you guys should really chill out. there might be more pg members added than the amount currently added.

yes, I stay. but I did not change clan.

also, mondragon was appointed all power over the bw.pG clan. and then he made the clan with the players HE wanted to be in it. (and note, there might be players who are currently considered kicked who are actually not. ) if you have big personal problems with a member, that IS reason enough to kick them. you really can't have a clan where the leader dislikes a member. that DOES NOT WORK. period.

I know I said I was opposed to one team having monopoly as honestly I still am. but I'd rather be part of a sponsored team consisting of the best players outside korea than not. especially because the only team able to compete with the koreans is this team, and participating in clanwars against koreans is well, something I'd enjoy.

the opposition towards this was harsher than I had expected.. but well, you really shouldn't blame mondi or any other tot members. if anything you should blame the pG leadership.

but personally I dont think you should blame anyone.


OK, FINALLY a nice answer!! so we will just try and chill and see what will happen...ok! no problem..thx eri !!
the man known for his ANACONDA :)
Frits
Profile Joined March 2003
11782 Posts
July 09 2005 06:50 GMT
#231
Hmm can't say mondragon given full power over all is the best decision ever, but at least the [pG] tag lives on. Would be sad to see that go after such a long time, guess im just being nostalgic.

Oh well, go *cough* "pG" *cough* !
rar1234
Profile Joined June 2005
Canada13 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-07-09 06:53:26
July 09 2005 06:51 GMT
#232
I don't know why people are pissed ToT is takin over, the old [PG] was overrated anyway and now their being taken over by another overrated clan - ToT. The only decent players in ToT are mondragon/testie and they're both overhyped by newbies who dont know any better. They don't have a chance in hell vs any korean pro gamers. The old PG never impressed me. They're best players at times were Draco, Satanik, Blackman and fisheye - who are mediocre.

Draco - who the hell is this guy? polish? ok enough said.

Satanik - Honestly..WTF has this guy done? Never heard of him. Can only play 1 map apparently.

Blackman - Only reason why people even know him is from the Boxer vs Blackman VOD from WCG 2002 where Boxer dismantled his game. Boxer was toying with him. Blackman couldn't do shit vs a REAL pro gamer.

Fisheye - low APM newbie who is completely overrated. Once again he faced Ogogo in WCG 2003 finals and got his ass handed to him. Once again when faced with a SEMI-progamer he gets destroyed.

Mondragon - Overrated, Overhyped newbie who gets a bunch of dicksucking newbies following him around worshipping a fake idol. Only good at one matchup and plays it to death, he just needs to kill himself now.

Testie - Another overrated, overhyped newbie who plays random because he sucks at all matchups equally. Once again when faced with a legit professional he gets creamed.

Im just trying to show u idiots the light, stop worshipping these worthless players e-dicks it is insulting to the real pro-gamers, who really are good at the game.

I'm just speaking the truth.
I SAID NO N00Bs
TreK
Profile Joined August 2004
Sweden2089 Posts
July 09 2005 06:55 GMT
#233
lol, that was funny... but u werent serious right?
Bergkamp ftw!
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32282 Posts
July 09 2005 06:55 GMT
#234
ROFLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
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Newblish
Profile Joined November 2004
Canada116 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-07-09 06:56:49
July 09 2005 06:56 GMT
#235
rar1234 you're an idiot, providing of course you were serious.
Senator[LighT]
KiLLme1st
Profile Joined December 2003
United States1824 Posts
July 09 2005 06:56 GMT
#236
On July 09 2005 15:51 rar1234 wrote:
I don't know why people are pissed ToT is takin over, the old [PG] was overrated anyway and now their being taken over by another overrated clan - ToT. The only decent players in ToT are mondragon/testie and they're both overhyped by newbies who dont know any better. They don't have a chance in hell vs any korean pro gamers. The old PG never impressed me. They're best players at times were Draco, Satanik, Blackman and fisheye - who are mediocre.

Draco - who the hell is this guy? polish? ok enough said.

Satanik - Honestly..WTF has this guy done? Never heard of him. Can only play 1 map apparently.

Blackman - Only reason why people even know him is from the Boxer vs Blackman VOD from WCG 2002 where Boxer dismantled his game. Boxer was toying with him. Blackman couldn't do shit vs a REAL pro gamer.

Fisheye - low APM newbie who is completely overrated. Once again he faced Ogogo in WCG 2003 finals and got his ass handed to him. Once again when faced with a SEMI-progamer he gets destroyed.

Mondragon - Overrated, Overhyped newbie who gets a bunch of dicksucking newbies following him around worshipping a fake idol. Only good at one matchup and plays it to death, he just needs to kill himself now.

Testie - Another overrated, overhyped newbie who plays random because he sucks at all matchups equally. Once again when faced with a legit professional he gets creamed.

Im just trying to show u idiots the light, stop worshipping these worthless players e-dicks it is insulting to the real pro-gamers, who really are good at the game.

I'm just speaking the truth.


SPOT ON!
CAPSLOCK IS AUTOPILOT FOR COOL
OrangeWorld
Profile Joined June 2005
Norway57 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-07-09 06:57:43
July 09 2005 06:56 GMT
#237
On July 09 2005 15:51 rar1234 wrote:
I don't know why people are pissed ToT is takin over, the old [PG] was overrated anyway and now their being taken over by another overrated clan - ToT. The only decent players in ToT are mondragon/testie and they're both overhyped by newbies who dont know any better. They don't have a chance in hell vs any korean pro gamers. The old PG never impressed me. They're best players at times were Draco, Satanik, Blackman and fisheye - who are mediocre.

Draco - who the hell is this guy? polish? ok enough said.

Satanik - Honestly..WTF has this guy done? Never heard of him. Can only play 1 map apparently.

Blackman - Only reason why people even know him is from the Boxer vs Blackman VOD from WCG 2002 where Boxer dismantled his game. Boxer was toying with him. Blackman couldn't do shit vs a REAL pro gamer.

Fisheye - low APM newbie who is completely overrated. Once again he faced Ogogo in WCG 2003 finals and got his ass handed to him. Once again when faced with a SEMI-progamer he gets destroyed.

Mondragon - Overrated, Overhyped newbie who gets a bunch of dicksucking newbies following him around worshipping a fake idol. Only good at one matchup and plays it to death, he just needs to kill himself now.

Testie - Another overrated, overhyped newbie who plays random because he sucks at all matchups equally. Once again when faced with a legit professional he gets creamed.

Im just trying to show u idiots the light, stop worshipping these worthless players e-dicks it is insulting to the real pro-gamers, who really are good at the game.

I'm just speaking the truth.



Ban for retardness plz?
Terross
Profile Joined November 2003
United States878 Posts
July 09 2005 06:57 GMT
#238
rofl rar1234 is the man
I am Joe oO;
OrangeWorld
Profile Joined June 2005
Norway57 Posts
July 09 2005 06:58 GMT
#239
Sounds like he had just finished having an oral affair with madcow
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33723 Posts
July 09 2005 07:01 GMT
#240
Trust me on this, the future is looking good --~
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
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