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United Kingdom5251 Posts
Wha? Zuh? Guh?! 
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On July 09 2005 13:18 iNsaNe- wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2005 13:16 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
And now that we clan war korean clans, id rather have 1 team that can compete with them, than 5 teams that can bruise their shins. Hmm, ToT/pG:s roster didn't change so I don't get your point.
point is they now GET MONEY. that's ToT's motivation, and that's what control was totally against right?
It was bad cause pG members were doing it, but now it's mondi and it's fine.
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Anyone who's blaming ToT for this is an idiot - there's really not much else to say - it's not ToT's fault they're good at this game and not pG Orga's fault for wanting to sponsor a good active team. I'll admit it was unfair and really fucking lame to let Eriador stay and then kick out Draco and Raven among maybe one or two others based on the fact Mondragon didn't like them.
Control i wouldn't bother posting because half the stuff you're talking about dosn't make much sense and the other half makes you look like a retard - just stop.
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United States5018 Posts
bAHHH just give me some good games do well and show kor that there are good bw players elsewhere just mix in some respect and honor ok ^_^
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Wath he is trying to say its that Draco, Raven and maybe more will eb in pG too  Everything seems to be better now 
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On July 09 2005 13:22 Fernando Hierro wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2005 13:18 iNsaNe- wrote:On July 09 2005 13:16 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
And now that we clan war korean clans, id rather have 1 team that can compete with them, than 5 teams that can bruise their shins. Hmm, ToT/pG:s roster didn't change so I don't get your point. point is they now GET MONEY. that's ToT's motivation, and that's what control was totally against right? It was bad cause pG members were doing it, but now it's mondi and it's fine.
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On July 09 2005 13:03 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
But instead he took his entire team, to a sponsored team, not leaving anyone. Also, its only mondie getting money really, the rest of us dont pay for tourneys (same as it was in ToT).
I got it that way that they won't get money, only sponsored to events now in pG. Or am I wrong?
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On July 09 2005 13:18 LostDevil wrote:
Capn people are pissed that pG's best members got kicked and the fact that control dug himself a hole my contradicting himself a number of time over the past few weeks which BlackJack pointed out
Well, imo, it sounds like pG management kicked the entire team. The people that were allowed to stay should feel lucky/priveleged. It shouldn't be the other way around where the kicked ones should feel insulted.
But, I don't know. I think people are making way too big a deal out of this.
EDIT: The kicked players might obviously feel insulted that their management abandoned them, but they shouldn't hold a grudge against ToT or Mondragon.
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The fact that control has double standards, which BJ pointed out, is contributing to the dislike of the new situation.
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United Kingdom5251 Posts
I think Twisted could've worded the title for the thread a lot better too.
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On July 09 2005 13:18 Liquid`Drone wrote:hehe good post blackjack okay you guys should really chill out. there might be more pg members added than the amount currently added. yes, I stay. but I did not change clan. also, mondragon was appointed all power over the bw.pG clan. and then he made the clan with the players HE wanted to be in it. (and note, there might be players who are currently considered kicked who are actually not. ) if you have big personal problems with a member, that IS reason enough to kick them. you really can't have a clan where the leader dislikes a member. that DOES NOT WORK. period. I know I said I was opposed to one team having monopoly as honestly I still am. but I'd rather be part of a sponsored team consisting of the best players outside korea than not. especially because the only team able to compete with the koreans is this team, and participating in clanwars against koreans is well, something I'd enjoy. the opposition towards this was harsher than I had expected.. but well, you really shouldn't blame mondi or any other tot members. if anything you should blame the pG leadership. but personally I dont think you should blame anyone.
good post
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k im starting to get a better feel for whats going on lol.so the part that is confusing me is.
1)why didnt anyone in pG no about this?
2)did all those ppl really get kicked just cause mondi didnt like them?(with the exception of the inactives)
3) there was a 3rd i forgot it
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On July 09 2005 13:25 Fernando Hierro wrote:
The fact that control has double standards, which BJ pointed out, is contributing to the dislike of the new situation.
it contributed to the dislike of control, people were already unhappy with the situation before he butted in.
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On July 09 2005 13:25 Fernando Hierro wrote:
The fact that control has double standards, which BJ pointed out, is contributing to the dislike of the new situation.
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Norway28923 Posts
twisted's thread title was intended as a joke.
how can you people claim that a manager of a team should keep a player he really dislikes though? seriously.. think of any professional sport.. no team in any sport would willingly keep a player that is not indispensable to the team whom is disliked by the manager. (and the only player you can claim got kicked because he's not liked is draco. and draco is FAR, FAR from indispensable. he's good, but nothing more. )
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things look much better now :D
On July 09 2005 13:01 PaRaDiSe wrote:
lol
I dunno why but i felt exactly the same.. I usually love [pG], now that feeling have disapeered... I hope to see a new great team merged from nothing with many gosu players like Draco, Raven, etc... Draco is playing godly good, he is best non-kor imo...
yes I believe he is the best 2
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On July 09 2005 13:28 [GiTM]-Ace wrote:
2)did all those ppl really get kicked just cause mondi didnt like them?(with the exception of the inactives)
Check Eri's post.
He explainted this thing. At least better than Control
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On July 09 2005 13:13 HungZerg wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2005 13:06 Mandalor wrote:
Do you even think a second before you post? Obviously the pG management made ToT the offer to join and get old pG kicked. It's not like ToT made this decision, at least not all alone.
Well speaking for me, I dislike ToT (except for Ilvy :D) and the pG management from now on. mondi is the one who kicked all the pG members, not pG management. that is the part most ppl are objecting to.
if the ogirinal pg members had any connections with their management instead of using them for sponsorship, mondragon would not have been given that power.
I don't understand how people do not get this. *The only people in pg that matter, did not care about the rest of their team to let them have any say or control over there future. The only people that matter in pg, gave complete control to another person.*
Mondragon is not an evil person for exercising the control he was given. If you have a problem with what has happened, it should be directed at pG management. Mondi's opinion about his own team is the only opinion that matters. If he thinks draco is not good enough for pg, he should be kicked. If he thinks draco is too imature for pg, he should be kicked. If he personally dislikes draco, and therefore will cause tension among the team, he should be kicked. Ultimately the reason could be anything, and if mondi feels he is bettering the team, he should do exactly that.
Since none of you are him, nor on his team, your opinions don't matter and shouldn't. You are not in the know. You are not informed. You are not involved. If you didn't want your favourite team to die, perhaps you should have told the original members to get off their asses and fight for what they all ready had, instead of taking it for granted. I, personally, don't feel that the original members should need encouragement from their fans to get motivated to do such a thing.
If this situation has given sponsorship to the best team (outside of korea), and will create better opportunities for the foreign community - whether it be through replays, news, better competition, or whatever else - then it's a good thing.
Cheers to good things.
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Draco is good but nothing more....... He's better than a number of players in ToT thats for sure
Didn't someone just say he beat mondi and paul in tanl ? thats slightly better than good IMO
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Ha-ha , Draco is pwning ex-ToT) in TANL I love it =)
Sh*t , and yesterday I was blaming Fisheye , no i must say that he was 100% right
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