Hacker still playing on WGT?

On June 26 2005 15:44 Taurent wrote:
perhaps they'll read this post and beat you up

On June 26 2005 15:52 Stat.Quo wrote:


lol, that'd be pretty funny

On June 26 2005 15:44 Taurent wrote:
perhaps they'll read this post and beat you up

On June 26 2005 15:37 phiwha wrote:
I work at a cyber cafe in NJ, and today to my surprise, I saw two guys playing WGT Broodwar, so I got curious. It turns out that The two guys playing were GGOk? aka SR.Ownage- aka LastGOsu aka SW)Loius. His team mate was SW)28 aka SW)Hellboy (not sure on this one). In reference to this thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=27078 I recognized his face, and his team mates introduced him as LastGosu. LastGosu then showed me his WGT account profile: http://www.wgtour.com/member.php?datab=broodwar&id=191259

Just wondering if he got unbanned or something or if hes getting around the ban with a diff name/IP. If he was unbanned and I was mistaken, please delete/close this thread.

On June 26 2005 16:42 dronebabo wrote:

use your head

On June 26 2005 16:36 NerO wrote:
lol jk um sw)28 = my ID i used first week on WGT then some other firends that live in canada used it . . . is this a joke? like seriously lol

- also i believe hellboy lives in NYC y would he be in NJ?

On June 26 2005 16:42 dronebabo wrote:

use your head

On June 26 2005 17:42 phiwha wrote:


wow, what a loser... He just walked out of here, and as he paid, he was like: You're lucky my friend stopped me from kicking your ass.

Anyways, that just proves it =/ Nice try lying your way out of this 'hellboy'

btw, this cybercafe is located in Fortlee, NJ - which is where the George Washington Bridge is to NY... not too far there buddy.

On June 26 2005 17:42 phiwha wrote:


wow, what a loser... He just walked out of here, and as he paid, he was like: You're lucky my friend stopped me from kicking your ass.

On June 27 2005 03:00 SyntaxError wrote:
what a coincidence. isn't lois some asian 5'5 guy with stupid emo glasses? what a joke.

rofl, yeah...."kick your ass" lol....

On June 26 2005 16:42 dronebabo wrote:

use your head

On June 27 2005 09:47 Zymurgy wrote:
*Not the real poster, I don't have an acc and he is letting me borrow it*

I was at that pc cafe with a friend. my aka doesn't really matter. we were playing bw when suddenly this kid comes up to us and starts asking us our wgt ranks and stuff. Then he saw SW) and he says, "oh you're SW)? they're a good team. what are you guys' aka's?" We were just kinda messing with the kid and ignoring him telling him we're super gosu. then he says, "do you know sw)hellboy?" i said of course he's on my team. from there he just kinda stopped talking to us and just stood behind us obs'n us play. about 1-2 hours later I receive a PM on wgt from some unknown guy linking me to the kid's TLT post "snitching" us out. I read it and thought it was funny and pathetic at the same time. even if we were whoever he wants to think we were, isn't tattle-telling like elementary school shit? this kid was like 18 or older... lol. i asked my friend if i should go slap him around a bit just for the hell of it. i was even considering walking out without paying for him being so pathetic. but then i thought... this kid is just some pussy looking asian at his work, i would have felt wrong starting up with someone while he's at the job.. when it was time to leave it was really hilarious that the kid was shitting in his pants and could barely look at us straight in the eye. just to tease him i was like "you're lucky my friend won't let me beat ur ass up!" i could tell he wasn't going to do anything, he just tried to ignore me then said "ya ya" i got closer to him and I said "WHAT?!" lol(again just teasing him) and he was just kind of shyly looking at me and looking away when notices there's other people watching. i think he felt like a little pussy and tried coming back in a very, very low voice, "ya you won't be allowed in here again." or someshit like that... I just thought... lol... and i left as my friend was just saying "leave him alone lol"

On June 27 2005 09:47 Zymurgy wrote:
[Explanations]

On June 27 2005 10:00 FeaReD) wrote:


your gay

On June 27 2005 09:47 Zymurgy wrote:
*Not the real poster, I don't have an acc and he is letting me borrow it*

I was at that pc cafe with a friend. my aka doesn't really matter. we were playing bw when suddenly this kid comes up to us and starts asking us our wgt ranks and stuff. Then he saw SW) and he says, "oh you're SW)? they're a good team. what are you guys' aka's?" We were just kinda messing with the kid and ignoring him telling him we're super gosu. then he says, "do you know sw)hellboy?" i said of course he's on my team. from there he just kinda stopped talking to us and just stood behind us obs'n us play. about 1-2 hours later I receive a PM on wgt from some unknown guy linking me to the kid's TLT post "snitching" us out. I read it and thought it was funny and pathetic at the same time. even if we were whoever he wants to think we were, isn't tattle-telling like elementary school shit? this kid was like 18 or older... lol. i asked my friend if i should go slap him around a bit just for the hell of it. i was even considering walking out without paying for him being so pathetic. but then i thought... this kid is just some pussy looking asian at his work, i would have felt wrong starting up with someone while he's at the job.. when it was time to leave it was really hilarious that the kid was shitting in his pants and could barely look at us straight in the eye. just to tease him i was like "you're lucky my friend won't let me beat ur ass up!" i could tell he wasn't going to do anything, he just tried to ignore me then said "ya ya" i got closer to him and I said "WHAT?!" lol(again just teasing him) and he was just kind of shyly looking at me and looking away when notices there's other people watching. i think he felt like a little pussy and tried coming back in a very, very low voice, "ya you won't be allowed in here again." or someshit like that... I just thought... lol... and i left as my friend was just saying "leave him alone lol"

On June 27 2005 09:47 Zymurgy wrote:
*Not the real poster, I don't have an acc and he is letting me borrow it*

about 1-2 hours later I receive a PM on wgt from some unknown guy linking me to the kid's TLT post "snitching" us out. I read it and thought it was funny and pathetic at the same time. even if we were whoever he wants to think we were, isn't tattle-telling like elementary school shit?

On June 27 2005 11:28 NonY wrote:


i dont understand these details. what wgt account did this random guy send the PM to? i'd assume it was either hellboy's or lastgosu's. if not then this is getting complicated. but anyway, if you read it then you at least have access to those accounts. i dont see why you focus so much on making the middle-man look bad. tattle-telling is when you report someone for the satisfaction of seeing them get in trouble. a report purely for the betterment of the community is not tattle-telling at all. i dont even think johnnie cochran in his hayday could convince me that what the guy did was wrong

On June 26 2005 16:36 NerO wrote:
lol jk um sw)28 = my ID i used first week on WGT then some other firends that live in canada used it . . . is this a joke? like seriously lol

- also i believe hellboy lives in NYC y would he be in NJ?

On June 27 2005 09:47 Zymurgy wrote:
*Not the real poster, I don't have an acc and he is letting me borrow it*

I was at that pc cafe with a friend. my aka doesn't really matter. we were playing bw when suddenly this kid comes up to us and starts asking us our wgt ranks and stuff. Then he saw SW) and he says, "oh you're SW)? they're a good team. what are you guys' aka's?" We were just kinda messing with the kid and ignoring him telling him we're super gosu. then he says, "do you know sw)hellboy?" i said of course he's on my team. from there he just kinda stopped talking to us and just stood behind us obs'n us play. about 1-2 hours later I receive a PM on wgt from some unknown guy linking me to the kid's TLT post "snitching" us out. I read it and thought it was funny and pathetic at the same time. even if we were whoever he wants to think we were, isn't tattle-telling like elementary school shit? this kid was like 18 or older... lol. i asked my friend if i should go slap him around a bit just for the hell of it. i was even considering walking out without paying for him being so pathetic. but then i thought... this kid is just some pussy looking asian at his work, i would have felt wrong starting up with someone while he's at the job.. when it was time to leave it was really hilarious that the kid was shitting in his pants and could barely look at us straight in the eye. just to tease him i was like "you're lucky my friend won't let me beat ur ass up!" i could tell he wasn't going to do anything, he just tried to ignore me then said "ya ya" i got closer to him and I said "WHAT?!" lol(again just teasing him) and he was just kind of shyly looking at me and looking away when notices there's other people watching. i think he felt like a little pussy and tried coming back in a very, very low voice, "ya you won't be allowed in here again." or someshit like that... I just thought... lol... and i left as my friend was just saying "leave him alone lol"

On June 27 2005 09:47 Zymurgy wrote:
*Not the real poster, I don't have an acc and he is letting me borrow it*

I was at that pc cafe with a friend. my aka doesn't really matter. we were playing bw when suddenly this kid comes up to us and starts asking us our wgt ranks and stuff. Then he saw SW) and he says, "oh you're SW)? they're a good team. what are you guys' aka's?" We were just kinda messing with the kid and ignoring him telling him we're super gosu. then he says, "do you know sw)hellboy?" i said of course he's on my team. from there he just kinda stopped talking to us and just stood behind us obs'n us play.

about 1-2 hours later I receive a PM on wgt from some unknown guy linking me to the kid's TLT post "snitching" us out. I read it and thought it was funny and pathetic at the same time. even if we were whoever he wants to think we were, isn't tattle-telling like elementary school shit? this kid was like 18 or older... lol. i asked my friend if i should go slap him around a bit just for the hell of it.

i was even considering walking out without paying for him being so pathetic. but then i thought... this kid is just some pussy looking asian at his work, i would have felt wrong starting up with someone while he's at the job.. when it was time to leave it was really hilarious that the kid was shitting in his pants and could barely look at us straight in the eye. just to tease him i was like "you're lucky my friend won't let me beat ur ass up!" i could tell he wasn't going to do anything, he just tried to ignore me then said "ya ya" i got closer to him and I said "WHAT?!" lol(again just teasing him) and he was just kind of shyly looking at me and looking away when notices there's other people watching. i think he felt like a little pussy and tried coming back in a very, very low voice, "ya you won't be allowed in here again." or someshit like that... I just thought... lol... and i left as my friend was just saying "leave him alone lol"

Faith Norway. June 27 2005 11:13. Posts 64 PM Profile Buddy Quote
kinda easy Rofl`ing of you (Rofl = Rolling on floor laughing)

Ps. and the kid who rattling on sw) pathetic

On June 27 2005 10:58 Faith wrote:
SW) FIghting~ when you do not know the AkA`s dont bother saying what you think

The two guys playing were GGOk? aka SR.Ownage- aka LastGOsu aka SW)Loius. His team mate was SW)28 aka SW)Hellboy (not sure on this one).

On June 27 2005 11:13 Faith wrote:
Ps. and the kid who rattling on sw) pathetic

On June 27 2005 20:15 tenbagger wrote:
Hey phiwha, which cafe do you work at?

On June 27 2005 20:26 Zymurgy wrote:
*same guy as before*

lol ur still calling me hellboy? you asked me if I knew sw)hellboy and I said yes. maybe u asked me because he was recently banned? idk why. you asked us if we qualified for wcg and our exact reply was yes we owned it we're super gosu. we, or I personally, was just yanking your neck and hoping you would go away. and stop being such a pathetic liar you didn't say shit to me when i was leaving. maybe i'll pay you a visit and wait for you to end your shift so we can discuss things like gentlemen. so you and the rest of you can sleep at night, my aka is Cop_Riddler / NeO)Riddler on east. this is my last post, so knock yourself out. bye bye~

On June 27 2005 19:56 Bill307 wrote:


Why? Because he cares about the people who would otherwise be taken advantage of? What's your argument, that Hellboy has a right to hack and cheat?

Ratting people out is a great thing you can do for your community -- in fact, people are responsible for reporting trouble if they find out about it, and if they don't then they are also in-part responsible for any negative consequences.

Maybe you should stop basing your morals on the stuff playground kids told you in elementary school.

On June 27 2005 20:26 Zymurgy wrote:
*same guy as before*

lol ur still calling me hellboy? you asked me if I knew sw)hellboy and I said yes. maybe u asked me because he was recently banned? idk why. you asked us if we qualified for wcg and our exact reply was yes we owned it we're super gosu. we, or I personally, was just yanking your neck and hoping you would go away. and stop being such a pathetic liar you didn't say shit to me when i was leaving. maybe i'll pay you a visit and wait for you to end your shift so we can discuss things like gentlemen. so you and the rest of you can sleep at night, my aka is Cop_Riddler / NeO)Riddler on east. this is my last post, so knock yourself out. bye bye~

On June 27 2005 20:54 FeaReD) wrote:


you're still gay

On June 27 2005 13:42 racebannon wrote:
paragraphs you fucking moron

On June 27 2005 20:54 FeaReD) wrote:


you're still gay

On June 27 2005 20:26 Zymurgy wrote:
*same guy as before*

lol ur still calling me hellboy? you asked me if I knew sw)hellboy and I said yes. maybe u asked me because he was recently banned? idk why. you asked us if we qualified for wcg and our exact reply was yes we owned it we're super gosu. we, or I personally, was just yanking your neck and hoping you would go away. and stop being such a pathetic liar you didn't say shit to me when i was leaving. maybe i'll pay you a visit and wait for you to end your shift so we can discuss things like gentlemen. so you and the rest of you can sleep at night, my aka is Cop_Riddler / NeO)Riddler on east. this is my last post, so knock yourself out. bye bye~

On June 27 2005 20:26 Zymurgy wrote:
*same guy as before*

lol ur still calling me hellboy? you asked me if I knew sw)hellboy and I said yes. maybe u asked me because he was recently banned? idk why. you asked us if we qualified for wcg and our exact reply was yes we owned it we're super gosu. we, or I personally, was just yanking your neck and hoping you would go away. and stop being such a pathetic liar you didn't say shit to me when i was leaving. maybe i'll pay you a visit and wait for you to end your shift so we can discuss things like gentlemen. so you and the rest of you can sleep at night, my aka is Cop_Riddler / NeO)Riddler on east. this is my last post, so knock yourself out. bye bye~

On June 28 2005 10:05 TL-[Riddler] wrote:
another riddler?

On June 27 2005 20:54 FeaReD) wrote:


you're still gay

On June 27 2005 20:57 ManaBlue wrote:


Well put.

On June 28 2005 11:16 Hot_Bid wrote:


you are a fucking idiot who contradicted himself. how the hell would your friend know who to message if it you weren't using the ID the guy "ratted" on?

On June 28 2005 11:16 Hot_Bid wrote:


you are a fucking idiot who contradicted himself. how the hell would your friend know who to message if it you weren't using the ID the guy "ratted" on?

On June 27 2005 20:26 Zymurgy wrote:
*same guy as before*

lol ur still calling me hellboy? you asked me if I knew sw)hellboy and I said yes. maybe u asked me because he was recently banned? idk why. you asked us if we qualified for wcg and our exact reply was yes we owned it we're super gosu. we, or I personally, was just yanking your neck and hoping you would go away. and stop being such a pathetic liar you didn't say shit to me when i was leaving. maybe i'll pay you a visit and wait for you to end your shift so we can discuss things like gentlemen. so you and the rest of you can sleep at night, my aka is Cop_Riddler / NeO)Riddler on east. this is my last post, so knock yourself out. bye bye~

On June 28 2005 14:06 StriFe` wrote:
Call the cops and show them his post threatening to kick your ass. They put people in jail for shit like this.

On June 26 2005 15:47 camooT wrote:
A witch! A witch! What will we do?

On June 28 2005 16:48 HeadBangaa wrote:
My my, we love to hunt the witchhunters, don't we camooT!

On June 28 2005 17:07 enkera~ wrote:


YAY!!!!!!!!!

CLose this, For the community sakes.

On June 28 2005 18:07 FeaReD) wrote:
they're still gay

On June 28 2005 18:18 -_- wrote:
I don't want this closed until everyone explains why they're quoting things repeatedly. Are your keyboards broke?

On June 28 2005 15:59 SW)HellBoY wrote:
Since I found out about this topic, I haven't bothered with it since its pretty stupid. I only am now because of your idiocy, killme1st. I have the history of my IM to you. This was when I saw your reply in 2nd to last post of page 4.

xmannyx(5:56:24 PM): Lol thats not me, you penis. And since when did you start being a dick with me?
tacojockey03 signed off at 5:56:31 (means he blocked me)

*I logg on a different screen name*
CharacterX01: You felt like a dumbass so you blocked me? Lol. (5:57:04 PM)
*I logged off and went back on xmannyx*


So much for me spamming you with messages. And so much for me logging on new screen nameS to be an, "internet tough guy" you said?

On June 28 2005 19:10 ronhaak wrote:
cant this thing be sorted out through bwchart? why not just analyze their replays, and compare them to the players in question. Romad seems to be able to find many many smurfs on ladders, why cant someone find out whether or not this is true?

On June 28 2005 18:23 KiLLme1st wrote:


If I told you I loved you, would you take it the wrong way?

KiLLme1st United States. June 28 2005 14:13. Posts 1737

Hey Phiwah was this guy here who is claiming to be NeO)Riddler very tall and hispanic? If not then he is lying because I have met Noah many times, and even flew him down here a few years back to hang out.

If someone murdered your family, was punished for a very short time, and then released back into the public, would statements such as "There are police out there, he obviously wont kill again". stop the killer from continuing his reign of terror?

On June 29 2005 14:24 camooT wrote:

BWScanner is to hacks what house arrest is to crime. Your analogy just doesnt apply. I'm not sure if he's evading a lifeban, but if he isn't hacking, then let him be.

On June 29 2005 15:18 MaRiO.BrOs_ wrote:

God this makes no-sense...
It's like saying that even if he hacked, it's alright, we all forgive him o_O.

If some dude raped 231 10 years old girls in one night, and is proved guilty, you're saying that aslong as someone's watches him, then we should let him be?

God let those hackers suffer a bit...

God this makes no-sense...
It's like saying that even if he hacked, it's alright, we all forgive him o_O.

If some dude raped 231 10 years old girls in one night, and is proved guilty, you're saying that aslong as someone's watches him, then we should let him be?

God let those hackers suffer a bit...

On June 29 2005 15:37 Zymurgy wrote:


These analogies are horribly exaggerated. No one suffered emotionally or physically (I hope) if someone hacks in a game. If I cheat in a pick up game of basketball vs my friends, should I forever pay for that and be barred from the NBA? That would be manny's case (as far as I know), as for Lois, he should most definitely be banned because he screwed people out of possible money and anyone else who hacked in ladders or money ladders - it is just random nonladder games that don't make that much sense to me.

On June 29 2005 15:37 Zymurgy wrote:


These analogies are horribly exaggerated. No one suffered emotionally or physically (I hope) if someone hacks in a game. If I cheat in a pick up game of basketball vs my friends, should I forever pay for that and be barred from the NBA? That would be manny's case (as far as I know), as for Lois, he should most definitely be banned because he screwed people out of possible money and anyone else who hacked in ladders or money ladders - it is just random nonladder games that don't make that much sense to me.

On June 29 2005 17:23 ()utlaW... wrote:
Pete Rose is whom you're referring to. He was banned for betting on the other team when he was a manager. The only thing he was allowed to do again was go to baseball games (I believe), however, he's still banned from ever reaching cooperstown.

All of these analogies blow..this isn't real life..this is a game, for which everyone should be given ONE more shot. Just because people dislike lastgosu or hellboy, doesn't mean they shouldn't be given another shot. I seriously doubt either of them have even touched another hack after all the shit they had to go through, give them another shot, and please don't judge people by what others tell you.

On June 29 2005 17:23 ()utlaW... wrote:
Pete Rose is whom you're referring to. He was banned for betting on the other team when he was a manager. The only thing he was allowed to do again was go to baseball games (I believe), however, he's still banned from ever reaching cooperstown.

All of these analogies blow..this isn't real life..this is a game, for which everyone should be given ONE more shot. Just because people dislike lastgosu or hellboy, doesn't mean they shouldn't be given another shot. I seriously doubt either of them have even touched another hack after all the shit they had to go through, give them another shot, and please don't judge people by what others tell you.

On June 29 2005 23:05 SW)HellBoY wrote:
Revolve I come from a country where a criminal, even if guilty, is entitled to a defence. I explained why I had the program. After a while it became clear the admins and the community weren't buying it(I don't blame them) so my defence strategy had to change. It then became a matter of even if I indeed used the maphack, I never did on WGTour, ever. That is something you admins can prove and agree with me since my clean history of BWS loggs during my ladder games and Nation War events prove it. I encourage anyone to examine any existing WGTour ladder or NationWar/ClanWar replay of mine for physical or non-physical but seemingly obvious evidence of maphack. I guarantee and can bet everything I'm worth for that they will never find anything. All my games are 100% clean. While I understand WGTour policy, I question if it should apply for an offence that never actually took place on WGTour itself. Long ago it was understandable that if someone was caught maphacking anywhere they'd be banned on WGTour since there was no 100% anti-hack and who was to say they weren't doing the same on WGTour. However, now there is. With the mandatory and unescapable use of BWS(since it is incorporated into the bot) there shouldn't be any worry should there?

Its pretty silly that this topic has evolved into an issue that is so old and has me so fed up since its been discussed on WGTour forums dozens of times. Those of you still crying about the SW)28 deal, get over it. I'm not him. I know who it is and actually more than one person has played on it.

On June 29 2005 22:39 littlechava wrote:
What if someone does the same thing as him, except admits+apologizes for it straight out?

On June 30 2005 00:31 ronhaak wrote:
For those complaining about the difference between situations, one being a game, the other "real life" are missing the point entirely. It is in the rules, and one will agree to following them, and any attempt to break them willingly and knowingly deserves a life ban. There is no accidental way this can go about. They took the time to download hacks, and use them regardless of what the rules clearly state. That is defiance. We do not play broodwar to give every defiant person a second chance. We play to enjoy ourselves in a community with honost players. Your claims of real life opposed to online are absurd. We are talking in the world of Starcraft, on these forums and on WGT all that matters is starcraft. Here...starcraft is the real world. Thus the Rules governing it should be followed and acted out accordingly. I guarentee that if the 2 players in question hacked against you, your 2nd chance debate would be tossed right out the window.

The other fact was that one of the players in question then proceeded to threaten an individuals safety in his own place of occupation, and followed that up with more online threats and insults. Why would you back such useless scum? These are the people you are willing to give second chances to? How many chances does it take before you click in and realize these sorts of things destroy the game you play. Why are you advocating such behavior? To me, it seems like you are "pro" on the destruction of starcraft, in the fact that you are backing and defending those who are ruining it for the rest of us. Hack once, and thats it. You mess up, you pay for it. This 2nd chance crap is sickening. Rules are meant to be aheared to.

On June 30 2005 00:31 ronhaak wrote:
For those complaining about the difference between situations, one being a game, the other "real life" are missing the point entirely. It is in the rules, and one will agree to following them, and any attempt to break them willingly and knowingly deserves a life ban. There is no accidental way this can go about. They took the time to download hacks, and use them regardless of what the rules clearly state. That is defiance. We do not play broodwar to give every defiant person a second chance. We play to enjoy ourselves in a community with honost players. Your claims of real life opposed to online are absurd. We are talking in the world of Starcraft, on these forums and on WGT all that matters is starcraft. Here...starcraft is the real world. Thus the Rules governing it should be followed and acted out accordingly. I guarentee that if the 2 players in question hacked against you, your 2nd chance debate would be tossed right out the window.

The other fact was that one of the players in question then proceeded to threaten an individuals safety in his own place of occupation, and followed that up with more online threats and insults. Why would you back such useless scum? These are the people you are willing to give second chances to? How many chances does it take before you click in and realize these sorts of things destroy the game you play. Why are you advocating such behavior? To me, it seems like you are "pro" on the destruction of starcraft, in the fact that you are backing and defending those who are ruining it for the rest of us. Hack once, and thats it. You mess up, you pay for it. This 2nd chance crap is sickening. Rules are meant to be aheared to.

On June 30 2005 00:31 ronhaak wrote:
For those complaining about the difference between situations, one being a game, the other "real life" are missing the point entirely. It is in the rules, and one will agree to following them, and any attempt to break them willingly and knowingly deserves a life ban. There is no accidental way this can go about. They took the time to download hacks, and use them regardless of what the rules clearly state. That is defiance. We do not play broodwar to give every defiant person a second chance. We play to enjoy ourselves in a community with honost players. Your claims of real life opposed to online are absurd. We are talking in the world of Starcraft, on these forums and on WGT all that matters is starcraft. Here...starcraft is the real world. Thus the Rules governing it should be followed and acted out accordingly. I guarentee that if the 2 players in question hacked against you, your 2nd chance debate would be tossed right out the window.

The other fact was that one of the players in question then proceeded to threaten an individuals safety in his own place of occupation, and followed that up with more online threats and insults. Why would you back such useless scum? These are the people you are willing to give second chances to? How many chances does it take before you click in and realize these sorts of things destroy the game you play. Why are you advocating such behavior? To me, it seems like you are "pro" on the destruction of starcraft, in the fact that you are backing and defending those who are ruining it for the rest of us. Hack once, and thats it. You mess up, you pay for it. This 2nd chance crap is sickening. Rules are meant to be aheared to.

On June 29 2005 23:11 SW)HellBoY wrote:
Sure you may check my replays. You might learn a thing or two.

On June 30 2005 00:27 Energies wrote:
Hellboy, I understand. But it is WGT Policy, (I know it's outdated, that's why we're working on changing it) you and a few others were unfortunate enough to get stung by it.

It's just changing stories and smurfing doesn't help you out. (If we decide to let some people back after new policy)

On June 30 2005 07:55 CultureMisfits wrote:


you cant go by "policy" You have to look at each person indvidualy and judge the situation and ask yourself is this guy gonna hack in the ladder? Going by one strict policy is plain ignorance, situations are always different. Manny explained his situation and i think the admins should check all the logs and his games of season 12 and if there clean he should be unbanned.

On June 30 2005 07:45 ronhaak wrote:
having the guilty party come forth with an explanation on a forum does not render my previous post useless

You're entitled to your opinion..It will be completly ignored, but still, you're entitled to it.

He's not getting unbanned

On June 30 2005 10:14 ()utlaW... wrote:


Completely ignored..just something that shows why WGT is a ridiculous system. WGT admins need to get over themselves asap.

On June 30 2005 10:50 CultureMisfits wrote:
i guess wgt is like the michael jackson trials

The known people get by with there crimes (Testie/MichaelJackson) while the average joe gets fucked in the ass

On June 30 2005 14:57 KiLLme1st wrote:
You still hack.

Edit - And suck to.

On June 30 2005 10:58 ()utlaW... wrote:
I've read the entire situation..but I was commenting on the WGT admin saying you're opinion is completely ignored..this seems to happen a lot on wgtour.com. Also, attacking me personally just makes you sound like an idiot.

On June 28 2005 15:59 SW)HellBoY wrote:
Since I found out about this topic, I haven't bothered with it since its pretty stupid. I only am now because of your idiocy, killme1st. I have the history of my IM to you. This was when I saw your reply in 2nd to last post of page 4.

xmannyx(5:56:24 PM): Lol thats not me, you penis. And since when did you start being a dick with me?
tacojockey03 signed off at 5:56:31 (means he blocked me)

*I logg on a different screen name*
CharacterX01: You felt like a dumbass so you blocked me? Lol. (5:57:04 PM)
*I logged off and went back on xmannyx*


So much for me spamming you with messages. And so much for me logging on new screen nameS to be an, "internet tough guy" you said?

On June 29 2005 15:37 Zymurgy wrote:


These analogies are horribly exaggerated. No one suffered emotionally or physically (I hope) if someone hacks in a game. If I cheat in a pick up game of basketball vs my friends, should I forever pay for that and be barred from the NBA? That would be manny's case (as far as I know), as for Lois, he should most definitely be banned because he screwed people out of possible money and anyone else who hacked in ladders or money ladders - it is just random nonladder games that don't make that much sense to me.

On June 30 2005 14:53 SW)HellBoY wrote:
What is this I keep hearing about getting caught over and over or 2nd or 3rd time? I've never maphacked on WGTour before. Several months ago during season 11 there was a similar situation except I later found out why it had happened. It was just this season, and as I've explained several times I never maphacked against anyone on WGTour. I supported BWS' use and enforced it when I organized Nation Wars. I never made up the excuse that many do saying, "my bws doesn't work we must manual." Either way everything thats been needed to be discussed has been. Last few pages has been unnecessary flame and repetition. I'm done with this topic, yet again... 2 E Z 2 ASAP I SLAIN ALL VERY E Z ASAP GG RUN FOR HILLS X17 BM SLAINDED SMASH U FACE GEEK GOOK E Z ASAP GG NO RE.

On June 30 2005 10:58 ()utlaW... wrote:
I've read the entire situation..but I was commenting on the WGT admin saying you're opinion is completely ignored..this seems to happen a lot on wgtour.com. Also, attacking me personally just makes you sound like an idiot.

On July 01 2005 09:19 SyntaxError wrote:


Calling you an idiot was nothing personal. You're post about WGT admins needing to get over themselves was dumb, so calling you an idiot fit pretty good. You obviously don't know the WGT administration well if you stand behind your claims. Whatever though..

On June 30 2005 16:13 Night[Mare] wrote:


if you are not hellboy, why the heck do you give a fuck about him? unless its you of course... xD

On July 01 2005 09:31 -_- wrote:


I was under the impression that ambitious, underqualified admins was and is WGT's greatest problem, so telling them "to get over themselves" seems like rational advice to me.