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LittLeLives
United States692 Posts
On December 15 2011 08:56 Torenhire wrote: I actually thought about putting free on my anti-team, but went with Snow instead... Phew, dodged that bullet ): I have them both. Learned my lesson, focusing more on Zergs from unreliable teams next time. | ||
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Gara
Canada435 Posts
End of Week 1: + Show Spoiler + End of Week 2: Main Team: 13  EffOrt $59  Horang2 $68 BeSt $48 By.Sun $48 RorO $53  BByong $114 CJ Entus $5 Main Team Points: 63 Anti-Team: Any 3 KT/STX players who have not won a game yet. Anti-Team Points: 0 Maximum Possible Score: 63 EDIT: I just realized that FPL hasn't been updated yet for yesterday's SKT vs. Woongjin match, I'll update this and repost once it has. | ||
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Subversive
Australia2229 Posts
On December 15 2011 03:30 ThE)ShoWTimE wrote: I have the soO problem too, would you advice to trade him with Snow though? Snow has decent records and he's on CJ, which is on fire lately, but it looks like Snow should play less than soO overall, so in the end, what would you do? Trade him. Soo will play more than half of the SKT1 games whereas Snow will probably play 1/3. And SKT1 could easily net as many team points as CJ. | ||
Kiett
United States7639 Posts
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Subversive
Australia2229 Posts
On December 15 2011 17:48 Kiett wrote: All of the teams have already played the same number of games. They all have 3 games now. Saturday and Sunday will just bring their totals to 4. Yup I just checked that and noticed that the 4 teams who played this week were the same four who missed out in week 1-2. Thanks, you're right. | ||
Epoxide
Magic Woods9326 Posts
On December 15 2011 17:42 Subversive wrote: I have Best. And also SK, Light and Jangbi who will probably all play one more time this week. To be honest, I don't think anyone should win FPL by putting together a team made from players from 1 team. CJ is looking good this season, so it might be an exception, but generally it seems unfair to basically go for a fan pick and win. Last seasons FPL winner had a team with only SKT players  | ||
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Subversive
Australia2229 Posts
On December 15 2011 17:50 Epoxide wrote: Last seasons FPL winner had a team with only SKT players Well that's retarded. I actually missed last rounds fpl. I still think people who put together teams made entirely of players from one team shouldn't win. That's luck rather than skill. | ||
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Ciryandor
United States3735 Posts
On December 15 2011 17:53 Subversive wrote: Well that's retarded. I actually missed last rounds fpl. I still think people who put together teams made entirely of players from one team shouldn't win. That's luck rather than skill. It's called a gamble. You can win big like that guy did, or lose big and end up with a lurch. | ||
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Subversive
Australia2229 Posts
On December 15 2011 18:33 Ciryandor wrote: It's called a gamble. You can win big like that guy did, or lose big and end up with a lurch. Of course. But as I said, it seems more luck based than skill. With the exception that this round, CJ is deep enough that its actually reasonable to put together a team made entirely from their roster. | ||
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Subversive
Australia2229 Posts
Not satisfied with a guess, I went through all 137 teams above me and manually changed their scores and wrote them down. Then for safety, I went up to team 173 to make so no one just below me had a bigger jump. I worked out I’m now around tied for 22nd place with people who have the same points as me (46) going up to rank 31. Seeing as I spent over an hour doing this tedious (and pointless) task I thought I’d share the results here in case anyone else had a boost from Wednesdays games and wanted to see roughly where they land. + Show Spoiler + 1 61 2 56 3 53 4 53 5 52 6 50 7 49 8 49 9 48 10 48 11 48 12 48 13 48 14 47 15 47 16 47 17 47 18 47 19 47 20 47 21 47 22 46 23 46 24 46 25 46 26 46 27 46 28 46 29 46 30 46 31 46 32 45 33 45 34 45 34 45 36 45 37 45 38 44 39 44 40 43 41 43 42 43 43 43 44 43 45 42 46 42 47 42 48 42 49 42 50 42 51 42 52 41 53 41 54 41 55 41 56 41 57 41 58 41 59 41 60 41 61 41 62 41 63 40 64 40 65 40 66 40 67 40 68 40 69 40 70 40 71 40 72 40 73 39 74 39 75 39 76 39 77 39 78 39 79 39 80 39 81 39 82 39 83 38 84 38 85 38 86 38 87 38 88 38 89 38 90 38 91 38 92 38 93 38 94 38 95 38 96 37 97 37 98 37 99 37 100 37 101 37 102 37 103 37 104 37 105 37 106 36 107 36 108 36 109 36 110 36 111 36 112 36 113 36 114 36 115 36 116 36 117 35 118 35 119 35 120 35 121 35 122 35 123 35 125 35 126 35 127 35 128 35 129 35 130 35 131 35 132 35 133 34 134 34 135 34 136 34 137 34 138 34 139 34 140 34 141 34 142 33 143 33 144 33 145 33 146 33 147 33 148 33 149 33 150 33 151 33 152 33 153 33 154 33 155 33 156 32 157 32 158 32 159 32 160 32 161 32 162 32 163 31 164 31 165 31 166 30 167 30 168 30 169 30 170 30 171 30 172 29 173 28 Note: I've probably made errors here and there. And if you're anywhere below 38ish in points you'd really want to mentally add on a few positions as there'll be plenty of players who had a boost below rank 173. | ||
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VGhost
United States3617 Posts
I realize you did qualify your ranks already, I'm just trying to clarify how qualified they are. | ||
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Subversive
Australia2229 Posts
On December 15 2011 23:46 VGhost wrote: I'm pretty sure that won't hold. Before last game, I was at 315 with 29 points: with +7 I'm at 36 and I'm going to guess I didn't jump an entire 200 ranks. But I'm not willing to go figure out 300 teams' scores to prove it... I realize you did qualify your ranks already, I'm just trying to clarify how qualified they are. Well I'm certain I made mistakes here and there. But it should be correct for anyone in the top 100 or so. The only question is how many people had massive point jumps outside of the 173 I calculated. Probably not too many. Basically you'd want to go through 100 ranks below yours to see how many other people have jumped up. I, of course, primarily did this for my own benefit, and because my score jumps up so much I didn't need to do it for more than a few dozen below me (it was more important to see how many people above me had increases). I think if you add 20-30 ranks to what my figure shows for 36 pts it'll probably be accurate. There's only like a point or two for each 30 or 40 ranks it seems at the moment. And its pretty unlikely more than 20 or 30ish people below you had +8 points or more in gains. Edit: To give you an idea, the number of people who had an increase of 6 or more points out of the 173 was just 10. 46 had an increase of 4-5 points. The rest were 3 points or less, with a substantial number being 1 point or no change and a small number being negative. I was thinking of putting in the +/- but decided it would be a waste of time and didn't really serve any purpose. | ||
flamewheel
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
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Subversive
Australia2229 Posts
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VGhost
United States3617 Posts
On December 15 2011 20:17 Subversive wrote: Of course. But as I said, it seems more luck based than skill. With the exception that this round, CJ is deep enough that its actually reasonable to put together a team made entirely from their roster. But if it's "entirely reasonable" why is it also "luck rather than skill"? I guess it seems to me that this entire thing has a good deal of luck involved in it. For instance, if you told me ZerO played his first three games against Stork, Calm, and fantasy, I'd assume he want 3-0 or at worst 2-1 with some dumb ZvZ mistake. Instead, he's 0-3 after getting stomped by an unusual timing by Stork, losing both BO and micro battles to Calm, and... whatever that game vs fantasy was. If anything, going CJ-heavy would seem to be minimizing luck: they are clearly going to do well, they have clear aces who will play a lot, the only real question was EffOrt and everybody was saying he was playing well. It's like picking Green Bay for the Super Bowl or Barcelona to win La Liga: sure, there are ways to beat them, but common sense says it's a sensible bet. And SKT was that team last year, too: they ended every round except WL with the best score. | ||
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Saechiis
Netherlands4989 Posts
If only CJ wasn't so OP with their 3-0 stomps -_-' | ||
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miercat
394 Posts
On December 15 2011 17:53 Subversive wrote: + Show Spoiler + On December 15 2011 17:50 Epoxide wrote: Last seasons FPL winner had a team with only SKT players Well that's retarded. I actually missed last rounds fpl. I still think people who put together teams made entirely of players from one team shouldn't win. That's luck rather than skill. The basic strategy for choosing a successful/winning FPL team, is to choose a (main)team that makes best use of the 30 points available (best cost benefit ratio); if a selection from the 10 or so players on one team, is presumably best able to satisfy this requirement, then that is a fine strategic decision - if the players on one team do not presumably best satisfy the requirement, then a limited selection from the ~10 players on one team is an unnecessary and detrimental restriction. Whether or not the last FPL team won with players from only one team, and whether or not these types of teams should be allowed to win, seems fairly irrelevant, because in general it will be much more difficult to win in this manner (well done and congratulations to anyone who can manage this). Additionally, with regards to FPL, with the exception of the consideration of "+1 team win points," the conceptualization of players belonging to a certain team, is mostly just an arbitrary/irrelevant grouping, which may or may not serve to limit the selection of players for an individual - in the same manner, an individual will often unnecessarily limit "his" choices to a number of his favourite players - in this case, and in the other, I don't know if it would really be a matter of luck, so much as someone just choosing a sub optimal, or simply, bad team - if such a team did win, it would be neither here nor there, because an individual result in this case would not be too important - true success would be determined in the long run(over multiple trials) by making effective decisions based on the available information. - additionally, because individuals often unnecessarily restrict their selection pool for a variety of reasons, discriminating against just one source of restriction - in this case, selecting from 1 team - would set a precedent that would be difficult to follow, if not impossible. | ||
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mute20
Canada175 Posts
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LighT.
Canada4501 Posts
Modesty was just a gamble so I'm not too concerned about that.. For my First proleague I'm doing pretty good so its making me happy :D I started the week ranked like #600 but moving on up to rank #165 although...I'm not sure if I can ever come close to top 25 -.-... | ||
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xxpack09
United States2160 Posts
FPL Dream Team: End of Week 1: + Show Spoiler + End of Week 2: Main Team: 13 EffOrt $512 Neo.G_Soulkey $612 BeSt $49 Horang2 $68 sHy $33 BByong $114 CJ Entus $5 Main Team Points: 71 Anti-Team: Any 3 KT/STX players who have not won a game yet. Anti-Team Points: 0 Maximum Possible Score: 71 By my calculations (I hope they're right!) there are a few other possible combinations, such as Horang2 -> By.Sun and BByong -> Piano. Btw, the trade gain/loss thing isn't working, I should be at +3 for Bogus -> Best (+4 best, 0 bogus, -1 penalty) but I'm just at -1. | ||
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