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Proleague 2011-2012 Format - Page 8

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letian
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany4221 Posts
November 17 2011 09:03 GMT
#141
Yeah, bad that no ACE, but on the other hand that means more competition, and no more KT FLASH, yeah!
lets see how it all works out. Anyway its BW we are going to watch!
Adr4melecH
Profile Joined March 2010
Thailand667 Posts
November 17 2011 09:10 GMT
#142
no ace match + no bo7 + no grand final
infinity2k9
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom2397 Posts
November 17 2011 09:12 GMT
#143
BO5 makes no fucking sense! the teams have MORE players now..
Tomken
Profile Joined January 2010
Norway1144 Posts
November 17 2011 09:25 GMT
#144
Well because of bo5, I guess none of the remaining players without team gonna be picked up -.- TT
MBCGame HERO FIGHTING!!!~
raga4ka
Profile Joined February 2008
Bulgaria5679 Posts
November 17 2011 09:25 GMT
#145
What the hell is Kespa thinking . If they are going to remove ACE games and the Grand finals at least make the matches Bo7 . It's like they are killing the excitement and having less BW at the same time .
DoX.)
Profile Joined December 2008
Singapore6164 Posts
November 17 2011 09:26 GMT
#146
Only good thing about this is KT can't abuse anymore :S Thats alright I guess.
endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-17 09:44:10
November 17 2011 09:35 GMT
#147
I'm just so pumped to watch some PL, whatever the format is !

And except Ground Zero, all the maps look very exciting !

edit : ARGGGGGHHHHHHHHH TL's horse has been replaced by an infested horse, scared the shit outta me for a second, I thought I had a hallucination T_T
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kuroshiroi
Profile Joined November 2010
3149 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-17 13:30:31
November 17 2011 09:37 GMT
#148
Lack of ace match + bo5 means we'll see a lot more strategic plays than before. Teams can't just send out whatever player they like and hope for the best, we'll see snipes and countersnipes and crazy builds and almost certainly more variety. Teams will have to think about which players they want to send and better players, such as TBLS will still practice for 2 maps per match, in case things go horribly wrong and the team needs a guaranteed win. It will be similar to how the Grand Finals last year went down, with SKT being forced to play Fantasy against Hoejja, in the hopes that Flash would come out, so we'll still have ace matches in a sense.

It sucks that some of the new players probably won't get to play as much but on the other hand, some of the older players might start sucking instead, such is the way of the world. By my count there are 105 games in a season per team, which should provide ample opportunities for the new players to shine or fail.

This might hurt teams like KT and SKT the most, since Bisu and Flash are superaces and can usually be relied on to win 2 games each match but CJ, Team8 and Stars will still have to win against higher quality players if they want to win instead of relying on luck. I think this setup will definitely lead to much higher quality matches overall.

And maybe next year we'll return to BO7 or something, assuming another network shows interest in BW. Curse you MBCGame for bailing on us.
Fly Jaedong, fly!
plaszczka
Profile Joined August 2007
Poland376 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-17 09:44:32
November 17 2011 09:43 GMT
#149
o shit. so samsung khan won't be able to make full use of it's great lineup now when it's only bo5...
but without ACE mode coaches will have to let worse players go first, just to save gosu for last sets


my biggest question now is:
will there be FANTASY PL ????
I apologize for all my english mistakes. I used to write really good senteces in this lenguage, but nowadays, i smoke too much weed and drink too much vodka. So you must forgive me :)
baubo
Profile Joined September 2008
China3370 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-17 09:44:45
November 17 2011 09:44 GMT
#150
Mixed feelings. My team Samsung benefits from lack of an ace match since we generally come out on the short end of matchups(Jaedong, Flash, CJ zergs, Woonjin zergs, and even against Bisu/Fantasy to a lesser extent). But from a spectator's standpoint, half the fun is seeing two teams' Aces battle each other in a winner-takes-all situation. And I feel a lot of the excitement will be gone.

Overall though, I really prefer Ace matches. And hope they change this policy for the 2nd half of the season.
Meh
zeehar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Korea (South)3804 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-17 09:57:13
November 17 2011 09:54 GMT
#151
there is no grand final because the tables won't be combined anymore between the whole 6 rounds.

three rounds > PO > final for first half > winner of first half.

three rounds > PO > final for second half > winner of second half.

pretty simple. each team plays 21 games per season, 7 games (1 against each team) for a total of 3 matches per season against each team.

it makes each game so much more important in the standings.

also, i don't know about the no ace match yet, i think it'll make the games before it much more important and thus more exciting to watch.
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PineappleLumpsToss
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand2434 Posts
November 17 2011 09:58 GMT
#152
My initial reaction to the format was one of shock and disappointment, but now I've had a chance to think about it more I'm gonna wait and see how it pans out.

As others have intimated already, I'd watch Bo1 with 7 seasons and no Champion in any of them as long as they're playing BW.

P.S. Thanks for the update.
ImbaTosS
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom1699 Posts
November 17 2011 10:05 GMT
#153
On November 17 2011 17:15 Ryo wrote:
After some reflection, I think I can accept the new format. But BOTH halves of the season better be pure BW or else...

Yeeeeah... I'm thinking probably not TT TT TT TT
EleGant[AoV]
BroodWarHD
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
136 Posts
November 17 2011 10:06 GMT
#154
The fact is, they had to change it up, dramatically. The way last season was run wasnt apparently commercially viable and sustainable - the sponsors pulling out, TV ratings low as theyve been. So they did, with the concise BO5 format, to focus the proleague content on the best players, and league straight to the point with the double finals, making every game count. Remember, this is business, they cannot continue doing the same thing if it isnt turning a profit. And for the few past seasons, Proleague hasnt.
Umbrella
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Taiwan936 Posts
November 17 2011 10:07 GMT
#155
Having 2 winners and no Grand Finals is kind of weird. Is it like running 2 smaller seasons? The Proleague will be good, but I feel it's much better with the older system (although that wasn't perfect either).
kuroshiroi
Profile Joined November 2010
3149 Posts
November 17 2011 10:12 GMT
#156
I'm sure they'll have a super final though, right? Between the winners of both seasons, assuming it's not the same team.
Fly Jaedong, fly!
chongu
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Malaysia2593 Posts
November 17 2011 10:19 GMT
#157
Huge letdown. No ACE match system. sigh.... I wonder if we'll see less JvF/FvBisu/JvBisu/StorkvAll/etc etc. Today is a sad day.

How are the korean netizens' overall reaction?
SC2 is to BW, what coke is to wine.
Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
November 17 2011 10:21 GMT
#158
On November 17 2011 19:05 ImbaTosS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2011 17:15 Ryo wrote:
After some reflection, I think I can accept the new format. But BOTH halves of the season better be pure BW or else...

Yeeeeah... I'm thinking probably not TT TT TT TT

I can't see the logic of not having a Grand Final unless it's because of this.
영원히 엠비씨게임 히어로 팬.
sixfour
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
England11061 Posts
November 17 2011 10:28 GMT
#159
On November 17 2011 19:21 Ryo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2011 19:05 ImbaTosS wrote:
On November 17 2011 17:15 Ryo wrote:
After some reflection, I think I can accept the new format. But BOTH halves of the season better be pure BW or else...

Yeeeeah... I'm thinking probably not TT TT TT TT

I can't see the logic of not having a Grand Final unless it's because of this.


because it's effectively two separate seasons.
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red4ce
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States7313 Posts
November 17 2011 10:31 GMT
#160
On November 17 2011 19:06 BroodWarHD wrote:
The fact is, they had to change it up, dramatically. The way last season was run wasnt apparently commercially viable and sustainable - the sponsors pulling out, TV ratings low as theyve been. So they did, with the concise BO5 format, to focus the proleague content on the best players, and league straight to the point with the double finals, making every game count. Remember, this is business, they cannot continue doing the same thing if it isnt turning a profit. And for the few past seasons, Proleague hasnt.


So then what could possibly be the rationale for removing the ace match?
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