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trance-
Profile Joined March 2007
United States46 Posts
November 17 2011 11:15 GMT
#181
As a Khan fan I am perfectly fine with no more ace matches. Sucks for KT though. And for Oz-- oh wait.
onlinerobbe
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany547 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-17 11:16:24
November 17 2011 11:15 GMT
#182
I always loved ace matches, it was always like: and now our hero will go out and save the day

but this system should be good for JD/Sea<3 !!!
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Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
November 17 2011 11:17 GMT
#183
I wanted to start watching the Pro-League this time, to possibly start getting into BW. But my main confusion is about how they could remove the Ace match. Isn't that a significant part of the Pro-League? And also, won't it backfire a bit, since I guess teams may send their Ace for the final game anyways?
"These guys are mindfucking me into a sex coma" | "Mayonnaise is a must-have lubricant when performing necrophilia"
sammy5222000
Profile Joined January 2011
United States44 Posts
November 17 2011 11:17 GMT
#184
noooooo! no ace match no grandfinal
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51615 Posts
November 17 2011 11:20 GMT
#185
On November 17 2011 20:17 Hassybaby wrote:
I wanted to start watching the Pro-League this time, to possibly start getting into BW. But my main confusion is about how they could remove the Ace match. Isn't that a significant part of the Pro-League? And also, won't it backfire a bit, since I guess teams may send their Ace for the final game anyways?


you'd rather secure the win in the first 3 games rather than gamble on the last two (unless the maps are unfavourable or whatever).
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StateAlchemist
Profile Joined January 2011
France1946 Posts
November 17 2011 11:22 GMT
#186
At least there is some Proleague, i'm not gonna complain about the content !
KobraKay
Profile Joined March 2010
Portugal4326 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-17 11:23:27
November 17 2011 11:22 GMT
#187
On November 17 2011 19:51 sinistral wrote:
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On November 17 2011 19:45 KobraKay wrote:
Wtf 12h and 16h KST its 3am and 7am around here (it will change to 4 and 8 once summer time comes but how long till that=/?). Dont they like europeans?


So by your logic, you want them to play at midnight and 4am in the morning to cater you guys? The fangirls need to sleep too, you know?


Why such a jerky response that comes off as someone who has no clue? Didnt you watch the last few years?! On weekends they played early because it was the weekend, kids/young adults/adults could watch the games and us Euros were kind of F*cked but we could watch games during the week because they were a few hours later (6pm in SK).

That also made sense for them. The 6pm in SK thing on week days allowed for people with work/school to watch games. Now its harder because some of them are still at school and most of them are still at work.

I never asked for such a stupid schedule like you suggested and Im making an effort to not post in such a stupid way as you did. The point is this is bad for us and for them also so think a little bit before you post and try to understand people's "logic" before calling them out.
CJ Fighting! (--.--)
fishbowl
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1575 Posts
November 17 2011 11:29 GMT
#188
Man... as much as I've been waiting for BW to start, I don't know about these changes. Specifically no Ace match or Grand Finals.
rainei
Profile Joined November 2009
Canada1316 Posts
November 17 2011 11:33 GMT
#189
On November 17 2011 19:45 KobraKay wrote:
Wow...cant say Im that happy with this news...we have less games, no grand final, no hype before the 5th game (at least not the same, because chances of having 2 big guns playing each other are slimmer now it seems) and the thing that worries me the most is the time of the games....

Wtf 12h and 16h KST its 3am and 7am around here (it will change to 4 and 8 once summer time comes but how long till that=/?). Dont they like europeans?


Oh you. I've woken up at 5am way too many times to count these past 2 years, not to mention staying up till then to watch the 2am ish ones. Seems like they like NA ppl more now BAHAHAHAHAH!!

About the news, really think they should have kept the bo7 format. Even if they want to separate them into 2 seasons, they should at least have the two winners play each other. I want Jaedong and Killer to lift the GRANDFINALS TROPHY.
All aboard the HSY fanboat/train/ whatever form of transportation you desire!! Everyday is Sojin day
trexbqs
Profile Joined January 2011
Malaysia1731 Posts
November 17 2011 11:33 GMT
#190
Bo5, no ace match and no Grand Final anymore?

by the way, thanks supernovamaniac for translating. I'm really appreciate it.
Learn,live and love it.
Hall0wed
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States8486 Posts
November 17 2011 11:35 GMT
#191
I like it. BO7 is preferable of course but this works too I guess.
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Sprouter
Profile Joined December 2009
United States1724 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-17 11:37:26
November 17 2011 11:37 GMT
#192
This is great news but the pessimist in me thinks that PL is in really bad shape.

I have a feeling that this is a transitory period before the switch to SC2. No announced sponsor yet for team8 and apparently no sponsor for PL and no plans for PL GF, the biggest event for BW esports. It makes sense that the season is cut in half just in case everyone is ready to move on when the first half is over.
mnesthes
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
5433 Posts
November 17 2011 11:37 GMT
#193
No Ace match and Grand Final makes me >:[
But better than none I guess.
<+LighTofHeaveN> Ppl call this "Indigo Children"
julia-adams
Profile Joined November 2011
Pakistan3 Posts
November 17 2011 11:44 GMT
#194
--- Nuked ---
Meteora.GB
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada2479 Posts
November 17 2011 11:44 GMT
#195
What the...

Does not compute with these changes... hope its alright though.
Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
November 17 2011 11:46 GMT
#196
On November 17 2011 20:20 GTR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2011 20:17 Hassybaby wrote:
I wanted to start watching the Pro-League this time, to possibly start getting into BW. But my main confusion is about how they could remove the Ace match. Isn't that a significant part of the Pro-League? And also, won't it backfire a bit, since I guess teams may send their Ace for the final game anyways?


you'd rather secure the win in the first 3 games rather than gamble on the last two (unless the maps are unfavourable or whatever).


But the other team would be thinking the same, so they may send out snipers on maps where they think you'll be sending out your ace.

I've always felt that Game 4 in these situations is the critical one, and that's where you want your best. If you're down 2-1 then you need your best to save you. If you're up 2-1 then you want your best to make sure there isn't a final set
"These guys are mindfucking me into a sex coma" | "Mayonnaise is a must-have lubricant when performing necrophilia"
blubbdavid
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Switzerland2412 Posts
November 17 2011 11:51 GMT
#197
Where is Fantasy PL?
What do you desire? Money? Glory? Power? Revenge? Or something that surpasses all other? Whatever you desire - that is here. Tower of God ¦¦Nutella, drink of the Gods
cscarfo1
Profile Joined March 2011
United States307 Posts
November 17 2011 11:54 GMT
#198
There has to be a Grand Final...the whole point of leagues is to see the winner at the end. Not share it.
RIP oGs :( Bisu~ MC~Jaedong~Hero~Tyler~Flash~NaNi~DRG~MVP~Nestea~FXOz~and of course ForGG
a9arnn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States1537 Posts
November 17 2011 11:57 GMT
#199
No ace match should be pretty interesting, and prove to be bad in some cases, luckily Oz isn't a team anymore, they would've lost a lot in this format... good luck to STX I suppose though D:
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mtvacuum
Profile Joined January 2010
United States979 Posts
November 17 2011 11:58 GMT
#200
wow, this is terrible news.. ace matches between TBLS were always the most exciting and best part about Proleague for me.
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