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peekn
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States1152 Posts
November 11 2011 17:32 GMT
#61
Oh man this is so exciting! Can't wait to see how this new team does in the upcoming PL!!

Thanks for the pictures ryo love 'em!
Rostam
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2552 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-11 17:47:15
November 11 2011 17:44 GMT
#62
On November 12 2011 01:02 Lavalamp799 wrote:
So, are they playing BW full-time still?


Is that a serious question?

Thanks Ryo!

On November 12 2011 01:31 setzer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2011 01:13 maximuspita wrote:
On November 12 2011 00:52 setzer wrote:
Can't wait to see the development of these players unfold as their practice continues. Playing against the very top of competition every day 12 hours a day has to be better than playing against B-teamers like so many progamers do.


That isn't necessarily true. If you play against someone who is too good, you might discard a valid strategy because that particular player defended it(and the strategy wasn't well developed at the moment). You also get a much smaller subset of styles to practice against.

I am, however, very excited to see this team tear through Proleague!


I think that is more of a problem of having a smaller amount of people to practice with and not the quality of each person. Overall I think we would see a way better Jaedong in ZvP if he was able to practice against Bisu and reach a modest 50%. Winning 50% of his games against the best PvZ player in the history of BW should almost always be more effective practice than against players who cannot come close to pushing Jaedong to his limits.


If having good practice partners was that much of an advantage, everyone on KT would be the godliest vT players ever. Not so. ACE has always suffered from not having enough players to practice effectively, I feel this team will have the same problem until they expand their roster (I guess they will do so when they find a sponsor?)
BW forever || Thall
DyEnasTy
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States3714 Posts
November 11 2011 17:49 GMT
#63
Wow I have a sudden urge to go play some BW. Be right back
Much better to die an awesome Terran than to live as a magic wielding fairy or a mindless sac of biological goop. -Manifesto7
Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
November 11 2011 17:53 GMT
#64
On November 12 2011 02:44 Rostam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2011 01:02 Lavalamp799 wrote:
So, are they playing BW full-time still?


Is that a serious question?

Thanks Ryo!

Show nested quote +
On November 12 2011 01:31 setzer wrote:
On November 12 2011 01:13 maximuspita wrote:
On November 12 2011 00:52 setzer wrote:
Can't wait to see the development of these players unfold as their practice continues. Playing against the very top of competition every day 12 hours a day has to be better than playing against B-teamers like so many progamers do.


That isn't necessarily true. If you play against someone who is too good, you might discard a valid strategy because that particular player defended it(and the strategy wasn't well developed at the moment). You also get a much smaller subset of styles to practice against.

I am, however, very excited to see this team tear through Proleague!


I think that is more of a problem of having a smaller amount of people to practice with and not the quality of each person. Overall I think we would see a way better Jaedong in ZvP if he was able to practice against Bisu and reach a modest 50%. Winning 50% of his games against the best PvZ player in the history of BW should almost always be more effective practice than against players who cannot come close to pushing Jaedong to his limits.


If having good practice partners was that much of an advantage, everyone on KT would be the godliest vT players ever. Not so. ACE has always suffered from not having enough players to practice effectively, I feel this team will have the same problem until they expand their roster (I guess they will do so when they find a sponsor?)

My guess, and hope, is that they have online practice partners who were former B-teamers from the disbanded teams so that when a sponsor picks them up, these players can join Team 8.
영원히 엠비씨게임 히어로 팬.
ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
November 11 2011 17:59 GMT
#65
On November 12 2011 02:44 Rostam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2011 01:02 Lavalamp799 wrote:
So, are they playing BW full-time still?


Is that a serious question?

Thanks Ryo!

Show nested quote +
On November 12 2011 01:31 setzer wrote:
On November 12 2011 01:13 maximuspita wrote:
On November 12 2011 00:52 setzer wrote:
Can't wait to see the development of these players unfold as their practice continues. Playing against the very top of competition every day 12 hours a day has to be better than playing against B-teamers like so many progamers do.


That isn't necessarily true. If you play against someone who is too good, you might discard a valid strategy because that particular player defended it(and the strategy wasn't well developed at the moment). You also get a much smaller subset of styles to practice against.

I am, however, very excited to see this team tear through Proleague!


I think that is more of a problem of having a smaller amount of people to practice with and not the quality of each person. Overall I think we would see a way better Jaedong in ZvP if he was able to practice against Bisu and reach a modest 50%. Winning 50% of his games against the best PvZ player in the history of BW should almost always be more effective practice than against players who cannot come close to pushing Jaedong to his limits.


If having good practice partners was that much of an advantage, everyone on KT would be the godliest vT players ever. Not so. ACE has always suffered from not having enough players to practice effectively, I feel this team will have the same problem until they expand their roster (I guess they will do so when they find a sponsor?)

spot on. Team 8 will most likely have big hardships through the first round, because their understanding of the new maps will probably be less than the others, and they'll be very suspectible of being sniped by cheese and/or weird strategies.
Writerptrk
Lavalamp799
Profile Joined March 2011
United States554 Posts
November 11 2011 18:23 GMT
#66
On November 12 2011 02:44 Rostam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2011 01:02 Lavalamp799 wrote:
So, are they playing BW full-time still?


Is that a serious question?



Yes, I never followed the BW scene before.
I was just wondering since I heard of some BW players playing SC2, but wasn't sure what has come of it lately..
jyLee
Profile Joined August 2009
United States350 Posts
November 11 2011 18:24 GMT
#67
On November 12 2011 01:32 Masheyoon wrote:
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On November 11 2011 21:23 Ryo wrote:
Dailyesports:

[image loading]



Curious, are these their study books for school, or some elite BW strategy books?

There's a wide variety of books but most of them are leadership/inspirational books. I also see an economics book, excel 2007 book, and even a book about obama ^^.
Rostam
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2552 Posts
November 11 2011 18:32 GMT
#68
On November 12 2011 03:23 Lavalamp799 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2011 02:44 Rostam wrote:
On November 12 2011 01:02 Lavalamp799 wrote:
So, are they playing BW full-time still?


Is that a serious question?



Yes, I never followed the BW scene before.
I was just wondering since I heard of some BW players playing SC2, but wasn't sure what has come of it lately..


They're practicing BW 12+ hours a day, I suspect they have no time to play other games for fun even if they wanted to.
BW forever || Thall
LML
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Germany1764 Posts
November 11 2011 18:45 GMT
#69
looks cool, tbh.
Might not be the same compared to their old houses, but obv they are very greatful to still be able to play and continue their career.
gogo JD!
LML
Sephy90
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1785 Posts
November 11 2011 18:52 GMT
#70
Awesome news! I'm really happy for them and I wonder why exactly they feel more at ease?
"So I turned the lights off at night and practiced by myself"
Klonere
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Ireland4123 Posts
November 11 2011 18:56 GMT
#71
On November 12 2011 02:11 Black[CAT] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2011 01:33 Klonere wrote:
Looks like an SC2 team house

So hyped for new PL, all the drama and misfortunes has really injected an enormous amount of storylines into it!


Actually SC2 team houses looks like BW team houses.


Oh I know that, its just SC2 team houses are not half as impressive as the big BW facilities and that this one is closer to the SC2 ones
Release
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4397 Posts
November 11 2011 18:56 GMT
#72
does this team have a name yet? It's really awkward to keep calling 8th team.
Like : "in a few weeks, it will be 8th team vs SKT"
☺
ninini
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden1204 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-11 19:04:55
November 11 2011 19:03 GMT
#73
On November 12 2011 02:19 baubo wrote:
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On November 12 2011 01:24 forumtext wrote:
On November 12 2011 01:22 baubo wrote:
Wow, I never knew a progaming house can be so small. I can't imagine spending my days in such a crowded apartment. Are the better-funded progaming houses bigger? Not sure if the environment will affect their play.


IIRC even the big teams have their players sharing rooms.


I knew they shared rooms. I just expected bigger space overall. You know, like a nice dining area, sofas for resting, maybe table tennis, etc. But 175 sq. meter should allow for a living room barely enough for a stack of computers.

175 sq meter is huge. That's a luxury sized apartment or a large double story house. That picture is a bit misleading. Believe me, they have enough room. The problem is that the practice space is quite small, but since it's an apartment, that was probably the largest room they could find. There's probably 5 bedrooms/study rooms, a large kitchen, 2 bathrooms and another living room on top of that room.
MuK_x
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
743 Posts
November 11 2011 19:05 GMT
#74
On November 12 2011 03:56 Release wrote:
does this team have a name yet? It's really awkward to keep calling 8th team.
Like : "in a few weeks, it will be 8th team vs SKT"

team Pal(meaning 8th in Korean)

I mean team name is "team 8th or pal" whatever you like to call.
IdrA "TT1 actually fucked up and didn't see the hatchery,so im at a really big advantage right now,assuming he reacts intelligently which is not something you should assume with TT1"
setzer
Profile Joined March 2010
United States3284 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-11 19:54:29
November 11 2011 19:52 GMT
#75
On November 12 2011 02:44 Rostam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2011 01:02 Lavalamp799 wrote:
So, are they playing BW full-time still?


Is that a serious question?

Thanks Ryo!

Show nested quote +
On November 12 2011 01:31 setzer wrote:
On November 12 2011 01:13 maximuspita wrote:
On November 12 2011 00:52 setzer wrote:
Can't wait to see the development of these players unfold as their practice continues. Playing against the very top of competition every day 12 hours a day has to be better than playing against B-teamers like so many progamers do.


That isn't necessarily true. If you play against someone who is too good, you might discard a valid strategy because that particular player defended it(and the strategy wasn't well developed at the moment). You also get a much smaller subset of styles to practice against.

I am, however, very excited to see this team tear through Proleague!


I think that is more of a problem of having a smaller amount of people to practice with and not the quality of each person. Overall I think we would see a way better Jaedong in ZvP if he was able to practice against Bisu and reach a modest 50%. Winning 50% of his games against the best PvZ player in the history of BW should almost always be more effective practice than against players who cannot come close to pushing Jaedong to his limits.


If having good practice partners was that much of an advantage, everyone on KT would be the godliest vT players ever. Not so. ACE has always suffered from not having enough players to practice effectively, I feel this team will have the same problem until they expand their roster (I guess they will do so when they find a sponsor?)


Valid point, but how many different things do progamers need to practice for there to be a huge advantage with a much larger team? I could see instances where they won't be able to practice a matchup because another player is tied up, but there are still many practice partners out there to train online. Idra himself said the majority of practice time in BW was to maintain mechanics while he was in the CJ house. I don't see Jaedong benefiting more from playing a b-team zerg over Hydra and against a player like Hydra his micro is always going to be pushed to the limit, making the practice valuable as it forces you to get better. Against a player like BaBy Jaedong is going to develop better multi-tasking skills to defend drops and such; he isn't as likely to hone those skills playing Bee.

There is a reason why every foreign organizations are sending many foreigners over to Korea in SC2. The environment and competition are so much better than elsewhere that is does make a huge difference. Pretty much every major successful foreigner has been to Korea to train at one point or another.
MangoTango
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States3670 Posts
November 11 2011 19:58 GMT
#76
Jaedong. :3
"One fish, two fish, red fish, BLUE TANK!" - Artosis
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
November 11 2011 20:08 GMT
#77
The team's practice schedule is from 10am to 10pm daily. In addition to that, players voluntarily put in extra practice hours.


I will always be amazed about this. Would be impossible task to me. Thanks for the news Ryo!
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Betalump
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States109 Posts
November 11 2011 20:13 GMT
#78
Can anyone tell me what those books are?
tnud
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden2233 Posts
November 11 2011 20:17 GMT
#79
Looks great!
Good to see them practising again, Team8(?) fighting!
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rslee
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada226 Posts
November 11 2011 20:23 GMT
#80
On November 12 2011 03:56 Release wrote:
does this team have a name yet? It's really awkward to keep calling 8th team.
Like : "in a few weeks, it will be 8th team vs SKT"


The name at the moment is "pal" which means 2 things in korean.

1. It means 8 because it is the either team.
2. It means "to sell." Because at some point this team will be sold, they thought it was a clever play on words to name it pal.

And it is a clever play on words..
Goal for when I go to korea: Hang out with 김택용
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