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Samsung Khan will win the Proleague - I believe! - Page 5

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hipaul
Profile Joined May 2009
United States274 Posts
November 08 2011 18:11 GMT
#81
This year got to be ours, khan fans!! I am really excited for Roro, and I think he'll bring more to the table than great ever did. Despite his splash of brilliance (and failing at his only chance for MSL gold), great has never been consistent for us, which we desparately needed from our terrans and zergs to support the tosses. Roro has become the definition of consistency, and let's not forget how good roro used to perform as the ace of fox (in 09~10 and 08~09 I believe?). I never thought I would say such thing, but I hope Khan can also pick up shine. As much as I want to support Juni and Odin, they just aren't that great and I believe Byul still has ways to go until he becomes a solid zerg card. With Roro now our zergs are obviously looking a lot better but not solid. If we can add Shine, we'll have two strong zerg cards with completely different playing style. I'm not exactly sure, but wasn't Shine performing well in PL when Roro was also performing well? If that is the case (can somebody confirm?), it makes sense to me that that was the case because Roro and Shine have such different playing style as zerg. Not to mention, they've been teammates for a while now too. On the other hand, I guess there also could be a screnario of it not working like when Kwanro went to SKT and eventually retired.

For our terrans, I think we are set if Reality is playing full-time now. I believe he's one of the players with most potential in the scene right now and we can only hope to see how good he will be playing full-time, and with improved tvz.

Since the legend of fall, can we safely say that we have the best protoss line now? ^^ I am sure Jangbang's legendary OSL run inspired everyone on the team, but it had to affect stork the most. If so, then we can all sit and enjoy watching stork carry khan, even if jangbi doesn't perform too well. But I mean our protoss line will still be at least decent, even if all things go wrong.

All in all, please pick-up shine khan~ T.T
SAMSUNG KHAN | tensai[ra] on iccup | Stork, Jangbi, Roro, Shine, Reality, Turn | Miss you Grape even though you failed in pvp and Brave the King of Chain Reaction
Crisium
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States1618 Posts
November 08 2011 18:52 GMT
#82
Samsung Khan fighting!
Broodwar and Stork forever! List of BW players with most Ro16, Ro8: http://tinyurl.com/BWRo16-Ro8
Kibibit
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States1551 Posts
November 08 2011 21:41 GMT
#83
Crush all those fools who dare to be on the wrong team. Gogogog!
R.I.P. 우정호 || Do probes dream of psionic sheep?
CosmicHippo
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States547 Posts
November 08 2011 22:01 GMT
#84
You know, you might be right.
Yeah i've got your zerg riiiight here! *gulps beer*
Fushin
Profile Joined June 2010
France193 Posts
November 09 2011 09:32 GMT
#85
Khan fightiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiin !!
baubo
Profile Joined September 2008
China3370 Posts
November 09 2011 10:31 GMT
#86
I'm very excited about this season, because the young kids are in their 2nd full year. Looking forward to seeing Turn, Reality, Grape, and Brave. I think Roro and Great are kind of a wash, except at least Trollary likely won't have the same fascination with sending Roro like she did with great. And with Jangbi's renewed confidence, and I'm pumped.

(T)Reality in particular could really breakout next season. The kid's potential is off the chart.
Meh
Jragon
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia1471 Posts
November 10 2011 05:06 GMT
#87
Khan needs moar HiyA
"Bisu is just too good." - Jaedong (http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=218995) "Bisu hyung's play is just too good" - Flash (http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=225861)
Motivate
Profile Joined June 2011
2860 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-10 07:14:37
November 10 2011 07:11 GMT
#88
On November 09 2011 19:31 baubo wrote:
(T)Reality in particular could really breakout next season. The kid's potential is off the chart.

I don't know why everyone is saying this guy has so much potential. His winrate is pretty mediocre (even for a rookie), and all he's really done is pull off a nice cheese against Jaedong. Is it true that January thinks very highly of Reality? Makes sense because she was sending him out so often at the beginning of proleague and he would continually lose. :/ I'm not saying he's terrible, but so far he's shown himself to be mediocre at best and have some serious problems with micro. As for Turn, he looks kind of like Jaedong so maybe that will help.

With an in shape Jangbi, and the new addition of Roro (an above average, well rounded Zerg), Khan is looking strong. Stork just needs to get back in shape...
arew
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Lithuania1861 Posts
November 10 2011 09:22 GMT
#89
Gogo KHAN fighting!
750/750 emotions fully stacked
xccam
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Great Britain1150 Posts
November 10 2011 09:34 GMT
#90
@motivate, as far as i can see reality CAN be really good, but he isnt all that consistent. He got wins last season against flash, fantasy, baby, jaedong, kal and stats. There are alot of 'above average' players who cant boast that.

In fact in Roro has never beaten flash fantasy or kal in his entire career and has only 1 win vs jaedong.

I dont know, reality may turn out really good if he fixes his faults, or he could remain a pretty average terran imo.
baubo
Profile Joined September 2008
China3370 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-10 13:34:02
November 10 2011 13:33 GMT
#91
On November 10 2011 16:11 Motivate wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2011 19:31 baubo wrote:
(T)Reality in particular could really breakout next season. The kid's potential is off the chart.

I don't know why everyone is saying this guy has so much potential. His winrate is pretty mediocre (even for a rookie), and all he's really done is pull off a nice cheese against Jaedong. Is it true that January thinks very highly of Reality? Makes sense because she was sending him out so often at the beginning of proleague and he would continually lose. :/ I'm not saying he's terrible, but so far he's shown himself to be mediocre at best and have some serious problems with micro. As for Turn, he looks kind of like Jaedong so maybe that will help.

With an in shape Jangbi, and the new addition of Roro (an above average, well rounded Zerg), Khan is looking strong. Stork just needs to get back in shape...


Is there anything in Reality's play that causes you to believe he's simply mediocre? And by that I mean beyond the 3 games he played Jaedong? I have seen probably 10+ games from him. Both wins and losses. And I have seen play that make me feel he can easily achieve the level of an A level terran if not more. But that he's too inconsistent as of right now. If you feel differently, I'd love to hear your thoughts on what makes his play not conducive to improvement.

Also, fwiw, Reality is still in school. The kid is really, really young.
Meh
hipaul
Profile Joined May 2009
United States274 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-10 18:27:31
November 10 2011 18:27 GMT
#92
On November 10 2011 16:11 Motivate wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2011 19:31 baubo wrote:
(T)Reality in particular could really breakout next season. The kid's potential is off the chart.

I don't know why everyone is saying this guy has so much potential. His winrate is pretty mediocre (even for a rookie), and all he's really done is pull off a nice cheese against Jaedong. Is it true that January thinks very highly of Reality? Makes sense because she was sending him out so often at the beginning of proleague and he would continually lose. :/ I'm not saying he's terrible, but so far he's shown himself to be mediocre at best and have some serious problems with micro. As for Turn, he looks kind of like Jaedong so maybe that will help.

With an in shape Jangbi, and the new addition of Roro (an above average, well rounded Zerg), Khan is looking strong. Stork just needs to get back in shape...

Basically what xccam and baubo said, but I want to mention few more things. First of all, you are right about his record being mediocre; however, that's doesn't really do justice. Reality's overall record is greatly affected by his shitty tvz record of 5W-12L. He himself admitted that he sucks at tvz and using bio (there was an interview of him on either fomos/des semi recently, i'm not quite sure if it was translated though). Even his tvp and tvt records aren't that great (just about .500), but the players he beat are really impressive. Reality beat a lot of solid players at their best matchup, such as: fantasy and flash in tvt & best and stats in pvt. Well, "at their best matchup" may sound misleading (especially for flash, all matchups are his best), but you get the point.

Also, fwiw, Reality is still in school. The kid is really, really young.

Reality just took his college entrance exam, he's almost done or done with school already. I remember looking at pictures of khan players attending someone's graduation a while back and I'm not exactly sure if it was for reality or not. Anyways, he's pretty much done.

There has been a lot of potential talk about reality because he did all that while still going to school and not being able to practice as much as others.
SAMSUNG KHAN | tensai[ra] on iccup | Stork, Jangbi, Roro, Shine, Reality, Turn | Miss you Grape even though you failed in pvp and Brave the King of Chain Reaction
Fenrax
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States5018 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-10 23:09:39
November 10 2011 23:08 GMT
#93
On November 10 2011 16:11 Motivate wrote:
Is it true that January thinks very highly of Reality?


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a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
November 10 2011 23:37 GMT
#94
remember guys, they have 2 starleague championships under their belt in the past year alone ...
starleague forever
Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
November 11 2011 01:40 GMT
#95
On November 11 2011 08:37 a176 wrote:
remember guys, they have 2 starleague championships under their belt in the past year alone ...

Do we?
2014 - ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ Raise your bows brood warriors! ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ
S-Class
Profile Joined November 2011
Korea (North)665 Posts
November 11 2011 01:46 GMT
#96
Nice. Such confidence on Khan! Can't wait for Jangbi though!
unit
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2621 Posts
November 11 2011 01:52 GMT
#97
I believe, also how does grape have that good of an elo!?!?
Troxior
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States168 Posts
November 11 2011 01:54 GMT
#98
If kim ga eul keeps trolling to minimum then KHAN, my favorite team, does end up winning :D
Frotoss fan!
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
November 11 2011 02:08 GMT
#99
AAAAAAH!

AAAAAAAAAAH!

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!

SAAAAAMSSSSUUUUNGG!

Here we are, let's go!
kiss kiss fall in love
a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
November 11 2011 04:03 GMT
#100
On November 11 2011 10:40 Xiphos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2011 08:37 a176 wrote:
remember guys, they have 2 starleague championships under their belt in the past year alone ...

Do we?


jangbi & hydra
starleague forever
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