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On November 10 2011 00:34 ninini wrote:
"I'm not sure whether that rumour is true,The gamers that didn't get caught match fixing.I know of two,the two that I know of both retired."
That's a pretty big statement by Hiya. The non-practice partner players who have retired since the scandal, other than ForGG are: Firefist, Frozen, Hogil, July, Kwanro, MVP, Nada, Boxer, Puma and Iron. Did I miss anyone?
I highly doubt Nada or Boxer would be involved in something like this, and I don't think Iron(MC) played often enough that he would get the offer. It's probably someone on Hite, CJ, KT or STX, since these teams already had match-fixers. So, Firefist on KT, Frozen or July on STX, Hogil or Puma on Hite or Kwanro on CJ. I think the players who switched to SC2 are less likely to be involved, so Firefist, Frozen, Kwanro and Hogil sounds like the main suspects. If you look at Kwanro it makes sense. He fell in ranking after that event. Hogil also left the scene at a weird time, when he was just starting to put out good results, maybe the guilt caught up with him. But then this could just be a rumour.
kwanro,hogil and frozen but if they were match fixing why weren't they pull down with all the other match fixers ?
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On November 10 2011 00:34 ninini wrote:
"I'm not sure whether that rumour is true,The gamers that didn't get caught match fixing.I know of two,the two that I know of both retired."
That's a pretty big statement by Hiya. The non-practice partner players who have retired since the scandal, other than ForGG are: Firefist, Frozen, Hogil, July, Kwanro, MVP, Nada, Boxer, Puma and Iron. Did I miss anyone?
I highly doubt Nada or Boxer would be involved in something like this, and I don't think Iron(MC) played often enough that he would get the offer. It's probably someone on Hite, CJ, KT or STX, since these teams already had match-fixers. So, Firefist on KT, Frozen or July on STX, Hogil or Puma on Hite or Kwanro on CJ. I think the players who switched to SC2 are less likely to be involved, so Firefist, Frozen, Kwanro and Hogil sounds like the main suspects. If you look at Kwanro it makes sense. He fell in ranking after that event. Hogil also left the scene at a weird time, when he was just starting to put out good results, maybe the guilt caught up with him. But then this could just be a rumour.
Nah. Hogil retired because one day he woke up and realized that it was his destiny to give up his spot in the OSL to Jangbi, so that he could save the world BW with his awe inspiring victory.
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On November 09 2011 19:29 BroodWarHD wrote:Show nested quote +On November 09 2011 14:42 Navi wrote:On November 09 2011 13:39 deafhobbit wrote:
Good God those mechanics - anyone questioning whether or not BW players who switch will dominate Sc2 should watch these games. hiya's not even known for his mechanics - jaedong flash bisu hero baby are known to be a level above him and most other progamers hiya so gud tho I dunno.. Hiya IS known for being one of the highest APM players on the scene, isnt he? Like 420+average apm
Nope, about 330 average over the coarse of a 20-30 min game.
He sticks around 400 in the first 8-10 minutes.
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just curious... is hiya saying 감자 instead of 감사 some sort of korean netizen in-joke that i don't understand?
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On November 10 2011 00:45 Sawamura wrote:Show nested quote +On November 10 2011 00:34 ninini wrote:
"I'm not sure whether that rumour is true,The gamers that didn't get caught match fixing.I know of two,the two that I know of both retired."
That's a pretty big statement by Hiya. The non-practice partner players who have retired since the scandal, other than ForGG are: Firefist, Frozen, Hogil, July, Kwanro, MVP, Nada, Boxer, Puma and Iron. Did I miss anyone?
I highly doubt Nada or Boxer would be involved in something like this, and I don't think Iron(MC) played often enough that he would get the offer. It's probably someone on Hite, CJ, KT or STX, since these teams already had match-fixers. So, Firefist on KT, Frozen or July on STX, Hogil or Puma on Hite or Kwanro on CJ. I think the players who switched to SC2 are less likely to be involved, so Firefist, Frozen, Kwanro and Hogil sounds like the main suspects. If you look at Kwanro it makes sense. He fell in ranking after that event. Hogil also left the scene at a weird time, when he was just starting to put out good results, maybe the guilt caught up with him. But then this could just be a rumour. kwanro,hogil and frozen but if they were match fixing why weren't they pull down with all the other match fixers ?
Kwanro/Hogil both had decent results when theyquit. IIRC ForGG wasn't doing too awfully either, just not really living up to his past successes. Speculation is really pointless, in fact if it was someone like Nada/July/Boxer I'd rather not know.
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This is like bnet attack every time I turn in. The star is just destroying the chumps he manages to match against. I am so happy HiyA is streaming.
EDIT: So much thanks to everyone translating and everything else. It's so easy to watch and hear a Korean progamer, and I have the collective badassery of TL to thank. 
This is the best thread on TL at the moment.
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On November 10 2011 02:07 DoctorHelvetica wrote:Show nested quote +On November 10 2011 00:45 Sawamura wrote:On November 10 2011 00:34 ninini wrote:
"I'm not sure whether that rumour is true,The gamers that didn't get caught match fixing.I know of two,the two that I know of both retired."
That's a pretty big statement by Hiya. The non-practice partner players who have retired since the scandal, other than ForGG are: Firefist, Frozen, Hogil, July, Kwanro, MVP, Nada, Boxer, Puma and Iron. Did I miss anyone?
I highly doubt Nada or Boxer would be involved in something like this, and I don't think Iron(MC) played often enough that he would get the offer. It's probably someone on Hite, CJ, KT or STX, since these teams already had match-fixers. So, Firefist on KT, Frozen or July on STX, Hogil or Puma on Hite or Kwanro on CJ. I think the players who switched to SC2 are less likely to be involved, so Firefist, Frozen, Kwanro and Hogil sounds like the main suspects. If you look at Kwanro it makes sense. He fell in ranking after that event. Hogil also left the scene at a weird time, when he was just starting to put out good results, maybe the guilt caught up with him. But then this could just be a rumour. kwanro,hogil and frozen but if they were match fixing why weren't they pull down with all the other match fixers ? Kwanro/Hogil both had decent results when theyquit. IIRC ForGG wasn't doing too awfully either, just not really living up to his past successes. Speculation is really pointless, in fact if it was someone like Nada/July/Boxer I'd rather not know.
Yeah he said yesterday forgg was good and not one of the two guys.
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hiya vs pusan
day 2, game 3
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omg hiya epic journey to museun stream was hilarious hahahahah thanks for subs!! omg
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Hiya's heavy factory play in tvp is just so beautiful to watch, shit! Dt's and fast arbiters? Np, take quick third and kill without vessels or even starport tech.
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hiya laughs like IdrA lol
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On November 10 2011 02:56 Spuick wrote:
hiya laughs like IdrA lol
Oh lord, yes he does. Never noticed until you pointed it out. 
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On November 10 2011 01:39 GTR wrote:
just curious... is hiya saying 감자 instead of 감사 some sort of korean netizen in-joke that i don't understand?
either that or he really likes potatoes...
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On November 10 2011 00:40 Ryo wrote:Show nested quote +On November 10 2011 00:34 ninini wrote:
"I'm not sure whether that rumour is true,The gamers that didn't get caught match fixing.I know of two,the two that I know of both retired."
That's a pretty big statement by Hiya. The non-practice partner players who have retired since the scandal, other than ForGG are: Firefist, Frozen, Hogil, July, Kwanro, MVP, Nada, Boxer, Puma and Iron. Did I miss anyone?
I highly doubt Nada or Boxer would be involved in something like this, and I don't think Iron(MC) played often enough that he would get the offer. It's probably someone on Hite, CJ, KT or STX, since these teams already had match-fixers. So, Firefist on KT, Frozen or July on STX, Hogil or Puma on Hite or Kwanro on CJ. I think the players who switched to SC2 are less likely to be involved, so Firefist, Frozen, Kwanro and Hogil sounds like the main suspects. If you look at Kwanro it makes sense. He fell in ranking after that event. Hogil also left the scene at a weird time, when he was just starting to put out good results, maybe the guilt caught up with him. But then this could just be a rumour. No point in speculating. He didn't say A teamers. The list of retirees in the past year or so is much longer than that. And it's not Kwanro because SKT made Kwanro sign a clause that requires him to return to T1 if he comes out of retirement. Edit: When he posted his retirement message on his cyworld, Kwanro also made it very clear it's not because of match-fixing that he retired.
Why would a B teamer be offered to match fix? They don't even play regularly and they are expected to lose anyway. I'm positive that the ppl Hiya was thinking about was among those players I mentioned. That doesn't mean it's true though.
Anyway, I think Kwanro just looks more suspicious by mentioning that he didn't quit because of the match-fixing.
On November 10 2011 00:45 Sawamura wrote:
kwanro,hogil and frozen but if they were match fixing why weren't they pull down with all the other match fixers ?
Lack of evidence ofc.
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On November 10 2011 02:31 soujiro_ wrote:
hiya vs pusan
day 2, game 3
can you please link to the vod. Thanks!
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Fishiking <3
We should get Hiya a TL Fanclub or something, maybe he'll come say hello!
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Friended Hiya on twitter. If only he knew the fanaticism of foreign fans. Wish I could get a signed Hiya jersey for my colleciton. : /
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i want him to sign my Oz jacket :/
need Jaedong to sign it and pretty much everyone else on Oz QQ
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On November 10 2011 01:39 GTR wrote:
just curious... is hiya saying 감자 instead of 감사 some sort of korean netizen in-joke that i don't understand?
I think people just say this for fun... or to try to be cute lol.
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