EPTi seriously think it will be bw showmatch
Bisu, Jaedong, Jangbi, Fantasy to Blizzcon 2011 - Page 43
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humbre
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i seriously think it will be bw showmatch | ||
Xxio
Canada5565 Posts
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Torpedo.Vegas
United States1890 Posts
Indeed he did. SC2 isn't BW, so as a game its like saying 2 cars on 2 different tracks are going to pass each other at some point. BW is doing BW's thing and SC2 is doing SC2's thing. If you want to talk about passing. You have to objectify the game and approach it from a business and marketing standpoint. But in that case its just two different products, and all this "difficulty" or "skill" stuff gets packaged together and is really a minor factor. And clearly people are not talking about business decisions or marketing strategies, they are extrapolating specific unique qualities of each game and using it as a basis for why it is superior in every other way. | ||
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Xenocryst
United States521 Posts
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Kiett
United States7639 Posts
On October 19 2011 09:12 Torpedo.Vegas wrote: Doesn't anyone get bored of this "mine is better than yours" crap? Why can't we just enjoy it for what it is and stop getting all offended if someone wants to see more of "x" game being played or more of "x" players playing "x" game. Its so hard to find any real discussion on this interesting topic through the pages of horrifically biased and slanted arguments with no real end or basis in the first place. BW is the best BW game that ever came out and SC2 is at best, 2nd place in terms of BW-likeness. Although, SC2 is the best SC2 game yet and BW, now lets be honest, is probably only 2nd best in terms of SC2-likeness. Now clearly if SC2 had more BW, it wouldn't really matter because as long as it was even 1% SC2, it would never reach pure BW, and thus be 2nd best BW. Same goes for BW gaining more SC2-ness. So if BW is stuck being BW and SC2 is stuck being SC2, lets all agree that BW can not equal SC2, if and only if, SC2 is not equal to BW. Greater than or Less than is meaningless because its like saying "I have more apples then you have oranges so I am better....". No you don't, you just wasted all your money and time on buying more apples. Ah who am I kidding, as angry as people get, I am sure they enjoy arguing whose game is better. Thinking of strategies and arguments to counter another persons..refining your pessimism for the other view points...editing responses to sound more sophisticated. Its the argument you enjoy, not the win. But what if the person who engineered the oranges is the same one who created apples and spent 10 years studying his apples and then invented oranges to emulate everything that made apples successful and marketed his oranges to ride on the tasty reputation of his amazing apples. And then when oranges became popular, the fans of oranges came to the apple stand every time an advertisement about apples was placed at the front of the market and started telling apple buyers that oranges are the future and soon enough, nobody will eat or make apples and that anyone who thinks to the contrary is in denial. And the apple lovers are just like, dude gtfo and leave us alone and let us love our apples. Apples take more skill to eat anyway. So yeah, that is just my general observation of your average fruit market. | ||
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kainzero
United States5211 Posts
On October 19 2011 11:31 Xenocryst wrote: they have Blizzcon for BW? last year, the only BW they had was in the classic section. right next to gems like rock 'n roll racing and blackthorne. | ||
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Raiznhell
Canada786 Posts
(probs wouldn't be fair to match them against top sc2 pros i mean......obviously Flash JD and Bisu would embarrass the hell out of them in front of all their fans but yeah.) | ||
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eviltomahawk
United States11135 Posts
Assuming that BW showmatches are arranged, how well would the English commentators (Day9, Artosis, Tasteless, JP (lol)) adapt again to the BW cast? Would Artosis's bias for BW Terran start seething through after watching Fantasy struggle against Jangbi abusing DT drops and Carriers? Will he start QQing about map imbalance against Terran and the imbalance of DT drops? Would everyone be able to adapt to calling the Citadel of Adun a Citadel rather than a Twilight Council? Tastosis kept interchanging those terms during their first GSL casts. After hearing Tastosis go crazy with Nestea hyperboles during their last Nestea GSL games, what kind of hyperboles would they be able to create for Bisu and Jaedong? If Nestea is the stallion that mounts the world, then what the hell is Jaedong? JP adapting to BW? I have a feeling that Day[9] still has a lot of BW left in him. At the last MLG, he went full Brood War for a few minutes during Huk vs MC, in which he kept shouting "MC NEEDS TO KILL THE OBSERVATORY! HUK NEEDS TO DEFEND HIS OBSERVATORY! WILL HE KEEP HIS OBSERVATORY ALIVE?!?!?" even though it was only a Robo Facility loooool. AND WILL TASTELESS REGAIN HIS LOST PAAAAAASSION?!? (I kid) | ||
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lSasquatchl
United States309 Posts
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Gann1
United States1578 Posts
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zodde
Sweden1908 Posts
On October 19 2011 12:04 Gann1 wrote: yes, these four along with incontrol are going to form the EG LoL team. Hahaha, I'd love to see that :D | ||
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Ideas
United States8182 Posts
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Ruscour
5233 Posts
On October 19 2011 12:03 TheSasquatch wrote: Think this could be related to the EG announcement? EG has NOTHING to gain from BW. | ||
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OpticalShot
Canada6330 Posts
Yes I'm an old SCBW fan who's more or less followed the scene since the very beginnings with BoxeR's amazing strategies (cheese in modern standards, haha!) and the brief shining of foreigners (Grrrr...!!!). So of course I love SCBW and still find myself watching SCBW most of the time. That doesn't automatically make me a SC2 hater though =O I also watch SC2 and find the game to be pretty good, but more difficult to follow because there are simply too many tournaments with gazillions of progamers. Anyways, I think this Blizzcon will be a big positive step towards worldwide eSports in general. | ||
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eviltomahawk
United States11135 Posts
Eh, I think Jaedong has much to gain from the EG body-building regimen. A buffer Jaedong? Perhaps only then can he supplant Nada in the Nada's Body thread. | ||
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ShadeR
Australia7535 Posts
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Ideas
United States8182 Posts
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eviltomahawk
United States11135 Posts
On October 19 2011 13:51 Ideas wrote: i wonder what JD will wear when he's playing? New jersey for new team? a hwaseung jersey? just regular person clothes?!?! maybe he'll wear a CJ jersey just to throw everyone off KT or SKT1 jerseys would be even bigger trolls. With Bisu going, he could always borrow one of Bisu's shirts or jackets to cause a bunch of netizen uproar over whether or not he just broke Proleague by joining SKT1. I hope he brings his red Oz jacket. It's one of the coolest pieces of clothing I have ever seen, IMO. Especially if Jaedong is wearing it. | ||
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lFrost
United States295 Posts
On October 19 2011 09:31 Kajarn wrote: You make the false assumption that SC2 could never pass up BW. Which I believe SC2 WILL pass BW, because SC2 has already passed BW Internationally. Plus, Blizzard has 2 more chances to perfect the game. yeah sc2 passed bw internationally basically because the game is dumbed down and easier to play. bw once had an international scene but everyone outside of korea jumped ship after sc2 was released because it was pointless to compete with the korean progamers who were vastly superior to everyone else in terms of skill. the existence of a large skill gap between the koreans and everyone else demonstrates bw's extremely high skill ceiling, unlike sc2's. why do you think all the mediocre bw players (nestea, mvp, mc, rest of world) switched to sc2 but the rest of the progamers have not? why is it that bw's popularity in korea still far surpasses sc2's? maybe its because they can look past the dated graphics of the game and see it's superior design underneath. bw's prominence for the last 10+ years shows that it is a near perfectly balanced game. sc2 may have passed bw on the popularity scale, but that does not necessarily translate to how good/perfect the game actually is. | ||
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eviltomahawk
United States11135 Posts
iNcontrol claims that Dustin Browder told him why the Koreans are coming, but it may just be trolling. Artosis's facial reaction may reveal that he knows something, but it may just be trolling. Huk claims that he will go to Blizzcon and beat all the Koreans at BW, just like how he beat BoxeR in BW at IPL. Artosis gives a face of skepticism. | ||
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