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SCBW in Korea: Headlines 2011-10-12 - Page 2

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TheShimmy
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1808 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-12 15:08:46
October 12 2011 15:01 GMT
#21
On October 12 2011 23:47 BLinD-RawR wrote:
one of the purposed measures for SWL was to have it separate like STX cup,actually it could work something like this.

Saturday-Tuesday:Regular SPL
Wednesday:SWL


That would be pretty awesome. Although it'd put pressure on some of the major players because now theyd be playing high-stakes games each week, prep for starting and potentially playing up to four games in the WL, and then probably prepping and playing their Individual League games.

I would like to see the WL as a break from the regular season PL. This would give us a new format and more chances to see the best players and possibly new players (especially if the format goes back to Bo5, which I think it will). I know its already inbetween seasons but I mean a seperate WL (like STX Cup) that is apart from PL standings.

Also they'd have to make up for coverage since MBC is now longer covering BW correct?
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Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
October 12 2011 15:10 GMT
#22
Thank you so much for translations/gathering all this information into one place. Very interesting and I'm in agreement with most of the issues. Regarding the 7 set match up, I think it would be better as long as there are less matches per week. It was only really exhausting because of the 4 teams a day schedule. I have to admit tho, I wish they'd say something about 2v2 as I really miss it. I can see a lot of reasons why they wouldn't want it back tho, but it broke things up and kept things fresh for fans.

Does anyone know if there's an exact date when PL etc starts up?
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andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
October 12 2011 15:12 GMT
#23
On October 12 2011 23:21 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2011 23:18 sCCrooked wrote:
wait there are people in the world who want LESS brood war available?? o_O


people who cannot keep up....its understandable.

I hope this thread doesn't go to the community news section,it would be nice if it didn't go to shit because of some guys who never followed BW comment on something they would otherwise not see/care.



I have to agree with this. I mostly just check results in SC2 nowadays because there's too many tournaments. I mainly just follow GSL and even after just a weekend of not following the news, it's a pain to find the thread I'm looking for in the tournament section here in TL.

In contrast, I still read through the BW LR threads when games happen. It's the same reason the NFL is the most popular sport here in the US. Probably 3-4 days a week might be better.
Warpath
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1242 Posts
October 12 2011 15:12 GMT
#24
Thanks for the headlines

I'd love less frequent Bo7s. The schedule already has me up at 2am-4am school nights watching, would not in the slightest mind more sleep but more games (rather than bo5)

here's hoping x.x
XsebT
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Denmark2980 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-12 15:13:51
October 12 2011 15:13 GMT
#25
I agree that proleague felt a bit too much like a factory this past season - too many games. I think they should avoid playing two matches at the same time. This comes pretty naturally though with the closure of MBC Game. One match five days a week would be perfect for me at least. And keep it BO7 of course!

Thanks a lot for the headlines!
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HighTemper
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada3867 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-12 15:14:57
October 12 2011 15:14 GMT
#26
Good news that a new Proleague season is on the horizon!!

Bo7 is a much better format with more balance to teams with generally good A-teamers but no super-ace.

Regarding the Days-per-week questions, let's do some calculations:

1) When there were 12 teams (Bo5)
Average games per series (assume equal chance for 3-0, 3-1, 3-2) = 4
Number of games per round = 61 series * 4 games/series = ~244 games per round

2) Last Proleague Season (10 teams, Bo7)
Average games per series (assume equal chance for 4-0, 4-1, 4-2, 4-3) = 5.5
Number of games per round = 45 series * 5.5 games/series = ~247.5 games per round

3) New Proleague Season (8 teams, Bo7)
Number of games per round = 28 series * 5.5 games/series = ~154 games per round (38% drop from last season)

4) New Proleague Season (8 teams, Bo5)
Number of games per round = 28 series * 4 games/series = ~112 games per round (55% drop from last season)

With 2 less teams, less series to play, and one less broadcasting station, I would say OGN needs to keep the 5-day week to broadcast all the Proleague games regardless of the BoX format. However, if Eclat decides to broadcast a portion of the games, then Kespa can shrink the week to 4 days.
"Issue the orders Sir [JangBi], and I will storm Hell." - Anthony Wayne
Condor Hero
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2931 Posts
October 12 2011 15:15 GMT
#27
I think 1 match per week for a team seems like a good number.
all the fans should have an opportunity to see their team play at least once per week and less matches = more interest in each match.

I don't personally have anything against the WL being two rounds but maybe would be better if they switched it up instead of having it back to back.
CobaltBlu
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States919 Posts
October 12 2011 15:17 GMT
#28
Less games is welcome. I couldn't watch that many matches per week last season and it honestly didn't bother me because there was so much. I ended up just checking results a lot. I would still like Bo7s though.
Kiett
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States7639 Posts
October 12 2011 15:22 GMT
#29
On October 12 2011 23:39 konadora wrote:
the comments about the bo7 was that a lot of fans complained they don't have that much time to dedicate, and usually if it goes to the ace match (the most anticipated match, of course), it's very late into the afternoon/approaching night, or sometimes even extends into dinner time, and people have to leave


Yeah. The one proleague match I was able to attend was the very last CJ vs. SKT back in July, and it went all 7 games, starting from 6PM to around 9PM. I was exhausted and starving by the time it was over :c
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awu25
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2003 Posts
October 12 2011 15:28 GMT
#30
I can see from a Korean fan perspective why they would want a bo5. They're most likely not going to watch the VOD and would want to watch it live. However, they don't want to stay for 3+ hours watching a bo7. I did notice that attendance at proleague matches suffered this year and I would think it was because of the frequency in games (5 days a week, bo7).
chaosTheory_14cc
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada1270 Posts
October 12 2011 16:12 GMT
#31
Hey thanks for the updates, it's very much appreciated. I think switching to a 4-day week while keeping Bo7's would be the most optimal decision. Considering that there are fewer teams this season, having to play 2 matches in one week doesn't seem necessary as long as the one match they do play is long enough (Bo7), and having a 4-day week definitely seems like a reasonable desire from progamers and fans who want some downtime from the frequency of games.
bearbuddy
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3442 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-12 16:24:21
October 12 2011 16:22 GMT
#32
Why not cut it to less than 5 day-week and change it back to bo5 for the official PL, but broadcast Dream league as well? There would be less noob stomping in the bo5 format, and a generally more competitive environment. Since the purpose of bo7 is to give rookie more experience, broadcasting DL live would give them stage exposure without embarrassing them to far superior opponents.

As for the audience, the people who don't really have enough time to dedicate to watching BW would just watch PL, while the more hardcore fans can watch DL as well.

Anyway, thanks for the info.
zenMaster
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada761 Posts
October 12 2011 16:23 GMT
#33
GTFO evil KT coach, we all know without WL KT would have never made it to the playoffs.
Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
October 12 2011 16:24 GMT
#34
On October 13 2011 01:23 zenMaster wrote:
GTFO evil KT coach, we all know without WL KT would have never made it to the playoffs.


not cool friend , you don't call my KT COACH EVIL =.=.
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konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66358 Posts
October 12 2011 16:26 GMT
#35
On October 13 2011 01:22 bearbuddy wrote:
Why not cut it to less than 5 day-week and change it back to bo5 for the official PL, but broadcast Dream league as well? There would be less noob stomping in the bo5 format, and a generally more competitive environment. Since the purpose of bo7 is to give rookie more experience, broadcasting DL live would give them stage exposure without embarrassing them to far superior opponents.

As for the audience, the people who don't really have enough time to dedicate to watching BW would just watch PL, while the more hardcore fans can watch DL as well.

Anyway, thanks for the info.

holy shit, yes to this
POGGERS
Skeggaba
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Korea (South)1556 Posts
October 12 2011 16:30 GMT
#36
^Seconded, great idea!
I actually enjoy watching up- and coming players, but its not as fun when they get stomped for the first year or so. Could you maybe pitch this to kespa? ^^
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Necosarius
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Sweden4042 Posts
October 12 2011 16:33 GMT
#37
On October 13 2011 01:22 bearbuddy wrote:
Why not cut it to less than 5 day-week and change it back to bo5 for the official PL, but broadcast Dream league as well? There would be less noob stomping in the bo5 format, and a generally more competitive environment. Since the purpose of bo7 is to give rookie more experience, broadcasting DL live would give them stage exposure without embarrassing them to far superior opponents.

As for the audience, the people who don't really have enough time to dedicate to watching BW would just watch PL, while the more hardcore fans can watch DL as well.

Anyway, thanks for the info.

Beaybuddy for KeSPA president O.O
Gao Xi
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Hong Kong5178 Posts
October 12 2011 16:34 GMT
#38
Yea I wouldn't mind less games. 3-4 day week would be fine. I think it would be better for WL to be 1 round.
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Megaliskuu
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5123 Posts
October 12 2011 16:36 GMT
#39
I hope they have more 13:00 KST games, would make it great for the foreigners TT.
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TheShimmy
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1808 Posts
October 12 2011 16:38 GMT
#40
Dream League broadcasts would be so sweet. There's much less incentive to watch them though and theyd have to get sponsors to sponsor the broadcasts and give more money. Man, we can only dream

Also I think Hightemper is right about the number of days per week, but still we're assuming there has to be less games with less teams and one less station so teams will likely onloy play once a week or twice a week at most I imagine. Plus OGN has to cover the IL.
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