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On October 12 2011 23:47 BLinD-RawR wrote:
one of the purposed measures for SWL was to have it separate like STX cup,actually it could work something like this.
Saturday-Tuesday:Regular SPL
Wednesday:SWL
That would be pretty awesome. Although it'd put pressure on some of the major players because now theyd be playing high-stakes games each week, prep for starting and potentially playing up to four games in the WL, and then probably prepping and playing their Individual League games.
I would like to see the WL as a break from the regular season PL. This would give us a new format and more chances to see the best players and possibly new players (especially if the format goes back to Bo5, which I think it will). I know its already inbetween seasons but I mean a seperate WL (like STX Cup) that is apart from PL standings.
Also they'd have to make up for coverage since MBC is now longer covering BW correct?
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Thank you so much for translations/gathering all this information into one place. Very interesting and I'm in agreement with most of the issues. Regarding the 7 set match up, I think it would be better as long as there are less matches per week. It was only really exhausting because of the 4 teams a day schedule. I have to admit tho, I wish they'd say something about 2v2 as I really miss it. I can see a lot of reasons why they wouldn't want it back tho, but it broke things up and kept things fresh for fans.
Does anyone know if there's an exact date when PL etc starts up?
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On October 12 2011 23:21 BLinD-RawR wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2011 23:18 sCCrooked wrote:
wait there are people in the world who want LESS brood war available?? o_O people who cannot keep up....its understandable. I hope this thread doesn't go to the community news section,it would be nice if it didn't go to shit because of some guys who never followed BW comment on something they would otherwise not see/care.
I have to agree with this. I mostly just check results in SC2 nowadays because there's too many tournaments. I mainly just follow GSL and even after just a weekend of not following the news, it's a pain to find the thread I'm looking for in the tournament section here in TL.
In contrast, I still read through the BW LR threads when games happen. It's the same reason the NFL is the most popular sport here in the US. Probably 3-4 days a week might be better.
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Thanks for the headlines 
I'd love less frequent Bo7s. The schedule already has me up at 2am-4am school nights watching, would not in the slightest mind more sleep but more games (rather than bo5)
here's hoping x.x
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I agree that proleague felt a bit too much like a factory this past season - too many games. I think they should avoid playing two matches at the same time. This comes pretty naturally though with the closure of MBC Game. One match five days a week would be perfect for me at least. And keep it BO7 of course!
Thanks a lot for the headlines!
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Good news that a new Proleague season is on the horizon!!
Bo7 is a much better format with more balance to teams with generally good A-teamers but no super-ace.
Regarding the Days-per-week questions, let's do some calculations:
1) When there were 12 teams (Bo5)
Average games per series (assume equal chance for 3-0, 3-1, 3-2) = 4
Number of games per round = 61 series * 4 games/series = ~244 games per round
2) Last Proleague Season (10 teams, Bo7)
Average games per series (assume equal chance for 4-0, 4-1, 4-2, 4-3) = 5.5
Number of games per round = 45 series * 5.5 games/series = ~247.5 games per round
3) New Proleague Season (8 teams, Bo7)
Number of games per round = 28 series * 5.5 games/series = ~154 games per round (38% drop from last season)
4) New Proleague Season (8 teams, Bo5)
Number of games per round = 28 series * 4 games/series = ~112 games per round (55% drop from last season)
With 2 less teams, less series to play, and one less broadcasting station, I would say OGN needs to keep the 5-day week to broadcast all the Proleague games regardless of the BoX format. However, if Eclat decides to broadcast a portion of the games, then Kespa can shrink the week to 4 days.
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I think 1 match per week for a team seems like a good number.
all the fans should have an opportunity to see their team play at least once per week and less matches = more interest in each match.
I don't personally have anything against the WL being two rounds but maybe would be better if they switched it up instead of having it back to back.
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Less games is welcome. I couldn't watch that many matches per week last season and it honestly didn't bother me because there was so much. I ended up just checking results a lot. I would still like Bo7s though.
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On October 12 2011 23:39 konadora wrote:
the comments about the bo7 was that a lot of fans complained they don't have that much time to dedicate, and usually if it goes to the ace match (the most anticipated match, of course), it's very late into the afternoon/approaching night, or sometimes even extends into dinner time, and people have to leave
Yeah. The one proleague match I was able to attend was the very last CJ vs. SKT back in July, and it went all 7 games, starting from 6PM to around 9PM. I was exhausted and starving by the time it was over :c
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I can see from a Korean fan perspective why they would want a bo5. They're most likely not going to watch the VOD and would want to watch it live. However, they don't want to stay for 3+ hours watching a bo7. I did notice that attendance at proleague matches suffered this year and I would think it was because of the frequency in games (5 days a week, bo7).
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Hey thanks for the updates, it's very much appreciated. I think switching to a 4-day week while keeping Bo7's would be the most optimal decision. Considering that there are fewer teams this season, having to play 2 matches in one week doesn't seem necessary as long as the one match they do play is long enough (Bo7), and having a 4-day week definitely seems like a reasonable desire from progamers and fans who want some downtime from the frequency of games.
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Why not cut it to less than 5 day-week and change it back to bo5 for the official PL, but broadcast Dream league as well? There would be less noob stomping in the bo5 format, and a generally more competitive environment. Since the purpose of bo7 is to give rookie more experience, broadcasting DL live would give them stage exposure without embarrassing them to far superior opponents.
As for the audience, the people who don't really have enough time to dedicate to watching BW would just watch PL, while the more hardcore fans can watch DL as well.
Anyway, thanks for the info.
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GTFO evil KT coach, we all know without WL KT would have never made it to the playoffs.
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On October 13 2011 01:23 zenMaster wrote:
GTFO evil KT coach, we all know without WL KT would have never made it to the playoffs.
not cool friend , you don't call my KT COACH EVIL =.=.
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On October 13 2011 01:22 bearbuddy wrote:
Why not cut it to less than 5 day-week and change it back to bo5 for the official PL, but broadcast Dream league as well? There would be less noob stomping in the bo5 format, and a generally more competitive environment. Since the purpose of bo7 is to give rookie more experience, broadcasting DL live would give them stage exposure without embarrassing them to far superior opponents.
As for the audience, the people who don't really have enough time to dedicate to watching BW would just watch PL, while the more hardcore fans can watch DL as well.
Anyway, thanks for the info.
holy shit, yes to this
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^Seconded, great idea!
I actually enjoy watching up- and coming players, but its not as fun when they get stomped for the first year or so. Could you maybe pitch this to kespa? ^^
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On October 13 2011 01:22 bearbuddy wrote:
Why not cut it to less than 5 day-week and change it back to bo5 for the official PL, but broadcast Dream league as well? There would be less noob stomping in the bo5 format, and a generally more competitive environment. Since the purpose of bo7 is to give rookie more experience, broadcasting DL live would give them stage exposure without embarrassing them to far superior opponents.
As for the audience, the people who don't really have enough time to dedicate to watching BW would just watch PL, while the more hardcore fans can watch DL as well.
Anyway, thanks for the info.
Beaybuddy for KeSPA president O.O
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Yea I wouldn't mind less games. 3-4 day week would be fine. I think it would be better for WL to be 1 round.
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I hope they have more 13:00 KST games, would make it great for the foreigners TT.
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Dream League broadcasts would be so sweet. There's much less incentive to watch them though and theyd have to get sponsors to sponsor the broadcasts and give more money. Man, we can only dream 
Also I think Hightemper is right about the number of days per week, but still we're assuming there has to be less games with less teams and one less station so teams will likely onloy play once a week or twice a week at most I imagine. Plus OGN has to cover the IL.
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