EPTSW)Lois A New Maphacker. - Page 11
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NewbSaibot
3849 Posts
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lastgosu
United States24 Posts
As I mention before. If you think im 100% hack go check some other my games with that Great method which is very scientific and accurate. Im very sure you can find multiple more those things if im hacker. once again do you think I did map hack only 1 game ? I dont care about his method or whatever but true fact is that great method also can be wrong maybe sometimes. I dont care somebody accuse someone hacker I never blamed any hackers. I never posted blamming someone until now. but this is certainly wrong to accuse me map hacker 100% with 1 little stuff can be error,,,, or even its the right then penguin's method is stupid to caught legit and turn player into a deadly hacker. If you gonna say superpenguin is 100% right and ignore my posts, then i have nothing to say. If you think somebody hacker , you can find very much suspicious and strange action even it was held'd by legit. Im very tired and i want to see end of this topic. If everyone say superpenguin's 1 pointview is clearly right, then i cant do anything with it. Its just an video game community im not gonna sue rather ask some proffesional programmer to proove my self about it. ( I cant do either ) but If supergenuin is wrong I want he's apologize and unbanned from WGT. I very like WGT, im very sad they just bann me without any clear decision of it. | ||
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Chris307
3095 Posts
Knowing for a fact that he maphacks, still he types all of those lies in a pitiful attempt to redeem himself in the eyes of the BW community. | ||
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NewbSaibot
3849 Posts
And i kinda aggree with your chris, although i have been encouraging him to just face the problem and get over it, which might have something to do with his change in tune. I mean do you really want him to keep bitching forever? | ||
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Chris307
3095 Posts
Be a man and admit it you fucking pussy. | ||
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lastgosu
United States24 Posts
I really think your shitty method is fucking stupid. your stupid method can ruin anyone into deadly hacker im very sure about it. fuck this !! really !! | ||
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lastgosu
United States24 Posts
you are really shitty idiot omg ! I cant even say nothing except your method is very idiot ! | ||
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superpenguin
France199 Posts
On May 10 2005 20:00 lastgosu wrote: once again do you think I did map hack only 1 game ? scroll back 1 page, and that's a proof on 2 different programs. check there, and that's an other proof, from an other game : http://www.starcraftdream.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4983 now you are still clamining that 1 misterious bug came out of nowhere in an unexplainable way, but on 2 different games, 2 different maps and each time confirmed with both bwchart and penguinplug. now stop saying random things like "it's a misterious bug", get technical or stop speaking. | ||
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maleorderbride
United States2916 Posts
Superpenguin proved it twice. THe second example does not require more than 15 seconds to read and understand and then you can TEST it if you feel otherwise. Its clear, concise and has a testable conclusion. You have no ground to stand on last gosu. What WCG are you going to? I cant wait to see what method you try to use to cheat there. Maybe elky style sunglasses so you can see other peoples screens? | ||
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tenbagger
United States1289 Posts
On May 10 2005 20:15 lastgosu wrote: im gonna check every TLT game reps and see how clearly your method works. you are really shitty idiot omg ! I cant even say nothing except your method is very idiot ! It is really quite simple, if it is a mysterious bug, then there has got to be at least one more instance where this same bug happened over the millions of replays in existence. If you, or any other person for that matter can find one, JUST ONE!! instance of a clear proof situation not generated by maphack, then you will have proven your point. Go download nada's rep pack as well as all the other known kor pros. Go analyze the KPGA reps. You will have my full apologies if you are able to find a clear proof that was in error. | ||
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tfeign
United States2980 Posts
 lastgosu, All it takes is 1 impossible action to prove hacking. There is no bug in the system, regardless of how high your APM is, how fast you move, however you perform any sort of actions,...nothing will result in a bug. And if anyone doubts it, anybody can test it out themselves, click as much as you want in a game and try to get BWAC or BWChart to give a false impossible action. Here's a warning: you will fail. Alternatively, there are replay packs of Korean pros everywhere. Download the thousands of replays available from known legit players like Nada, boxer, reach, yellow, etc. Even though these players get 300+APM all the time, you will never ever, ever see BWAC+BWChart detect any instances of hack in these thousands of games. The only time when hack is detected is when a user genuinely performs an impossible action, which it did in your game. Now with that said, penguin just proved for a second time that you were hacking in a different game. There really is no way to deny it. | ||
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superpenguin
France199 Posts
or a classic "borderline case" that i explained in detail. | ||
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Zorglub1
Denmark532 Posts
That scan proof is cool, even people who try to hack safe might fall for that, keep up the good work! | ||
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Verbloten
Australia750 Posts
I'd say you now need to take a look at yourself and move onto WOW or something. | ||
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SurG
Russian Federation798 Posts
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TreK
Sweden2089 Posts
i think we can all agree that the barack float with academyrush from lois alá eriador style against random wasnt a copycat of eriador but rather a desperate attempt to beat testie -.-V | ||
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PuertoRican
United States5709 Posts
On May 10 2005 19:01 randomKo_Orean wrote: He's not american, he's korean, I hope you guys know that www.xanga.com/lastgosu did i say he was? did something in my post make you think that i thought he was american? read his post, then read mine, i know he isnt american. | ||
uhjoo
Korea (South)1740 Posts
On May 10 2005 19:38 tenbagger wrote: Wow, this has got to be the first time I've ever disagreed with uhjoo. Uhjoo, have you read penguin's entire article about his process? I'd be very interested to see what your thoughts are after you read his entire article, because I had the same thoughts that you did before I read it. I think penguin's rationalization of his method is highly scientific and accurate. It's just that people either cannot comprehend it or the misinterpret it. Like that guy from Mexico who recently posted a false hacker accusation based on a "suspicious" move. Pengiun is clear about what the difference is between suspicious move, which may not be hacking, and clear proof which most certainly is hacking, namely 5+ seconds of vision. You also have to be careful about objects on the borderline of vison. We must always err on the side of caution when making hack accusations and the mexican guy tarnished the credibilty of penguins method in the eyes of the masses. But I'm 100% convinced that if you follow Pengiuns method precisely, then you can determine without a shadow of a doubt certain non-borderline cases of hacking. And this game with Lois is certainly a clear case of hacking. p.s. let's do pengiun some justice and not accuse hack when it's 1 second of vision or 1 pixel of space from vision. On May 10 2005 19:44 pirate cod wrote: Also, uhjoo, because a hacker can see up a cliff, dosn't mean the UNITS can. Therefore you must scan for units to shoot up cliff. I think Lastgosu hacks. i was immediately corrected on both these points after i posted. previous to reading this thread, i was clueless on hacking and the technology required to detect it (i simply ignore hacking and hackers and figure that if someone hacks, "you're a loser in life that i won't concern myself with"). but i've read up on hacking a bit due to this thread and i did actually read penguin's rationalization, and undoubtedly penguin's defense of his software and method are very convincing. as an aside, penguin's contributions in finding hackers is really an absolute "good" for the community so i'm not at all trying to discredit his efforts. and at this point i'm inclined to think that the burden of proof is on lastgosu to prove there is some heretofore undetected bug or other error in penguin's method of confirming map hack. perhaps some other non-hack third party program interacts with bw to produce false positives? bleh who the hell knows but for some reason, even despite the evidence, i can't help but pause before jumping on board to denunciate lastgosu as a hacker. again, what is incredibly bizarre to me is that i've watched quite a few of lastgosu's replays and his play just seems so unsuspicious-- he loses quite a few games that if he hacked, he would've clearly won. lastgosu's replies in this thread also are very bizarre and either he's really off his rocker/delusional, or actually innocent. it would be just comical if it were the former, but a real tragedy if it was the latter. | ||
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shizuru
Japan570 Posts
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Elvin_vn
Vietnam2038 Posts
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