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On August 29 2011 18:33 BLinD-RawR wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2011 18:31 Ryo wrote:On August 29 2011 18:25 shannn wrote:Sad sad day for BW  If that rumor about JD going abroad for studies is right then I'm even more sad that we might never see JD again in e-sports  I can imagine how sad the JD fans will be (it'll feel the same if Flash was in his shoes  ) The rumor arose because during the 2009 FA, his parents mentioned that but IMO it was largely as leverage to get Oz to negotiate. any news of any sponsors,any good news so far? even rumors Yes, there are some rumours. Jinair possibly? But its just a rumour so far. Lots of speculation, just have to wait I guess.
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On August 29 2011 18:32 Ryo wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2011 18:06 BLinD-RawR wrote:I hope there is at least oe new team otherwise there will only be 7 teams in proleague.  Quite possible that there will be a new team. Yeah, it would be a pretty huge blow to BW to lose 3 teams at once without at least one new team .
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On August 29 2011 18:39 Ryo wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2011 18:33 BLinD-RawR wrote:On August 29 2011 18:31 Ryo wrote:On August 29 2011 18:25 shannn wrote:Sad sad day for BW  If that rumor about JD going abroad for studies is right then I'm even more sad that we might never see JD again in e-sports  I can imagine how sad the JD fans will be (it'll feel the same if Flash was in his shoes  ) The rumor arose because during the 2009 FA, his parents mentioned that but IMO it was largely as leverage to get Oz to negotiate. any news of any sponsors,any good news so far? even rumors Yes, there are some rumours. Jinair possibly? But its just a rumour so far. Lots of speculation, just have to wait I guess.
well thats good enough,we'll see when it happens.
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On August 29 2011 18:35 _Quasar_ wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2011 18:32 Ryo wrote:On August 29 2011 18:06 BLinD-RawR wrote:I hope there is at least oe new team otherwise there will only be 7 teams in proleague.  Quite possible that there will be a new team. from where is there such an info?  BTW - I think that if things go well (PL starts a new season), it's quite probable that Samsung acquires Shine. Lack of good zerg + obviously Shine being a very good candidate for a practice partner to Stork, having beaten him such a lot of times.  Gogo KHAN.Shine!  Speculation from a joinsMSN article. + Show Spoiler +On August 29 2011 13:07 Ryo wrote:Very likely to be Fox, MBC and Oz: http://isplus.joinsmsn.com/article/005/6075005.html?cloc+ Show Spoiler +Speculation from the article: It's not possible for all 40 progamers from these 3 teams to be drafted into the remaining 6 teams (excluding ACE). However, if a new team is formed, most players will be able to retain their jobs and we can have 8 teams in the PL this coming season. There are only 8 teams in Korea's professional baseball league so this is not unusual and might actually help in making the league more efficient (some of these teams have been ill-managed). But wait for a confirmation from either DES or Fomos first.
Edit: lol Fomos picks up the story from the joinsMSN article and states that if new sponsors cannot be found for all the 3 teams, forming a new team to include some of the players from these 3 teams is very possible.
http://www.fomos.kr/board/board.php?mode=read&keyno=120199&db=issue&cate=&page=1&field=&kwrd=
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Sad that OZ is disbanding too. I thought the 3rd one will be STX for sure.
Now we only need one team to be formed from the 3 that are disbanding and the rest of the players to be drafted by the remaining teams and its not that bad. And KIller for KHAN pls !
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On August 29 2011 18:42 Ryo wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2011 18:35 _Quasar_ wrote:On August 29 2011 18:32 Ryo wrote:On August 29 2011 18:06 BLinD-RawR wrote:I hope there is at least oe new team otherwise there will only be 7 teams in proleague.  Quite possible that there will be a new team. from where is there such an info?  BTW - I think that if things go well (PL starts a new season), it's quite probable that Samsung acquires Shine. Lack of good zerg + obviously Shine being a very good candidate for a practice partner to Stork, having beaten him such a lot of times.  Gogo KHAN.Shine!  Speculation from a joinsMSN article. + Show Spoiler +On August 29 2011 13:07 Ryo wrote:Very likely to be Fox, MBC and Oz: http://isplus.joinsmsn.com/article/005/6075005.html?cloc+ Show Spoiler +Speculation from the article: It's not possible for all 40 progamers from these 3 teams to be drafted into the remaining 6 teams (excluding ACE). However, if a new team is formed, most players will be able to retain their jobs and we can have 8 teams in the PL this coming season. There are only 8 teams in Korea's professional baseball league so this is not unusual and might actually help in making the league more efficient (some of these teams have been ill-managed). But wait for a confirmation from either DES or Fomos first. Edit: lol Fomos picks up the story from the joinsMSN article and states that if new sponsors cannot be found for all the 3 teams, forming a new team to include some of the players from these 3 teams is very possible. http://www.fomos.kr/board/board.php?mode=read&keyno=120199&db=issue&cate=&page=1&field=&kwrd=
like I said
Killer,Jaedong,Baby,SEAAAAAAA,midas,wooki,Jaehoon,anytime,Hiya,sHy,Han,Shine,RoRo...my god
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On August 29 2011 18:53 BLinD-RawR wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2011 18:42 Ryo wrote:On August 29 2011 18:35 _Quasar_ wrote:On August 29 2011 18:32 Ryo wrote:On August 29 2011 18:06 BLinD-RawR wrote:I hope there is at least oe new team otherwise there will only be 7 teams in proleague.  Quite possible that there will be a new team. from where is there such an info?  BTW - I think that if things go well (PL starts a new season), it's quite probable that Samsung acquires Shine. Lack of good zerg + obviously Shine being a very good candidate for a practice partner to Stork, having beaten him such a lot of times.  Gogo KHAN.Shine!  Speculation from a joinsMSN article. + Show Spoiler +On August 29 2011 13:07 Ryo wrote:Very likely to be Fox, MBC and Oz: http://isplus.joinsmsn.com/article/005/6075005.html?cloc+ Show Spoiler +Speculation from the article: It's not possible for all 40 progamers from these 3 teams to be drafted into the remaining 6 teams (excluding ACE). However, if a new team is formed, most players will be able to retain their jobs and we can have 8 teams in the PL this coming season. There are only 8 teams in Korea's professional baseball league so this is not unusual and might actually help in making the league more efficient (some of these teams have been ill-managed). But wait for a confirmation from either DES or Fomos first. Edit: lol Fomos picks up the story from the joinsMSN article and states that if new sponsors cannot be found for all the 3 teams, forming a new team to include some of the players from these 3 teams is very possible. http://www.fomos.kr/board/board.php?mode=read&keyno=120199&db=issue&cate=&page=1&field=&kwrd= like I said Killer,Jaedong,Baby,SEAAAAAAA,midas,wooki,Jaehoon,anytime,Hiya,sHy,Han,Shine,RoRo...my god Poor rookies though, where will they go. I'm not too worried about the senior players.
On August 29 2011 18:44 SkelA wrote: Sad that OZ is disbanding too. I thought the 3rd one will be STX for sure.
Now we only need one team to be formed from the 3 that are disbanding and the rest of the players to be drafted by the remaining teams and its not that bad. And KIller for KHAN pls ! STX has always seemed quite willing to pump money into their esports teams, judging from the high salaries Calm and Kal are under (and paying tossgirl to promote their brand). The SF team just won the PL too so it was very unlikely to have been STX.
Killer to Khan would be a very good outcome.
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On August 29 2011 18:53 BLinD-RawR wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2011 18:42 Ryo wrote:On August 29 2011 18:35 _Quasar_ wrote:On August 29 2011 18:32 Ryo wrote:On August 29 2011 18:06 BLinD-RawR wrote:I hope there is at least oe new team otherwise there will only be 7 teams in proleague.  Quite possible that there will be a new team. from where is there such an info?  BTW - I think that if things go well (PL starts a new season), it's quite probable that Samsung acquires Shine. Lack of good zerg + obviously Shine being a very good candidate for a practice partner to Stork, having beaten him such a lot of times.  Gogo KHAN.Shine!  Speculation from a joinsMSN article. + Show Spoiler +On August 29 2011 13:07 Ryo wrote:Very likely to be Fox, MBC and Oz: http://isplus.joinsmsn.com/article/005/6075005.html?cloc+ Show Spoiler +Speculation from the article: It's not possible for all 40 progamers from these 3 teams to be drafted into the remaining 6 teams (excluding ACE). However, if a new team is formed, most players will be able to retain their jobs and we can have 8 teams in the PL this coming season. There are only 8 teams in Korea's professional baseball league so this is not unusual and might actually help in making the league more efficient (some of these teams have been ill-managed). But wait for a confirmation from either DES or Fomos first. Edit: lol Fomos picks up the story from the joinsMSN article and states that if new sponsors cannot be found for all the 3 teams, forming a new team to include some of the players from these 3 teams is very possible. http://www.fomos.kr/board/board.php?mode=read&keyno=120199&db=issue&cate=&page=1&field=&kwrd= like I said Killer,Jaedong,Baby,SEAAAAAAA,midas,wooki,Jaehoon,anytime,Hiya,sHy,Han,Shine,RoRo...my god Just imagine Jaedong, Killer, Sea, Jaehoon/Tyson, Baby, Mind/Wooki for the first 6 games, then they could choose their ace player depending on the opposing team(ex. JD against Stork, Shine against Bisu, Killer against Zero, etc.) instead of predictably sending only one ace player for all of their matches :p.
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On August 29 2011 18:58 Ryo wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2011 18:53 BLinD-RawR wrote:On August 29 2011 18:42 Ryo wrote:On August 29 2011 18:35 _Quasar_ wrote:On August 29 2011 18:32 Ryo wrote:On August 29 2011 18:06 BLinD-RawR wrote:I hope there is at least oe new team otherwise there will only be 7 teams in proleague.  Quite possible that there will be a new team. from where is there such an info?  BTW - I think that if things go well (PL starts a new season), it's quite probable that Samsung acquires Shine. Lack of good zerg + obviously Shine being a very good candidate for a practice partner to Stork, having beaten him such a lot of times.  Gogo KHAN.Shine!  Speculation from a joinsMSN article. + Show Spoiler +On August 29 2011 13:07 Ryo wrote:Very likely to be Fox, MBC and Oz: http://isplus.joinsmsn.com/article/005/6075005.html?cloc+ Show Spoiler +Speculation from the article: It's not possible for all 40 progamers from these 3 teams to be drafted into the remaining 6 teams (excluding ACE). However, if a new team is formed, most players will be able to retain their jobs and we can have 8 teams in the PL this coming season. There are only 8 teams in Korea's professional baseball league so this is not unusual and might actually help in making the league more efficient (some of these teams have been ill-managed). But wait for a confirmation from either DES or Fomos first. Edit: lol Fomos picks up the story from the joinsMSN article and states that if new sponsors cannot be found for all the 3 teams, forming a new team to include some of the players from these 3 teams is very possible. http://www.fomos.kr/board/board.php?mode=read&keyno=120199&db=issue&cate=&page=1&field=&kwrd= like I said Killer,Jaedong,Baby,SEAAAAAAA,midas,wooki,Jaehoon,anytime,Hiya,sHy,Han,Shine,RoRo...my god Poor rookies though, where will they go.  I'm not too worried about the senior players. Show nested quote +On August 29 2011 18:44 SkelA wrote: Sad that OZ is disbanding too. I thought the 3rd one will be STX for sure.
Now we only need one team to be formed from the 3 that are disbanding and the rest of the players to be drafted by the remaining teams and its not that bad. And KIller for KHAN pls ! STX has always seemed quite willing to pump money into their esports teams, judging from the high salaries Calm and Kal are under (and paying tossgirl to promote their brand). The SF team just won the PL too so it was very unlikely to have been STX. Killer to Khan would be a very good outcome. 
yeah the rookies will barely get playtime at all,they will probably quit progaming or move to SC2 or something...I hope they get to continue trying to live their progaming reams.
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On August 29 2011 19:08 BLinD-RawR wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2011 18:58 Ryo wrote:On August 29 2011 18:53 BLinD-RawR wrote:On August 29 2011 18:42 Ryo wrote:On August 29 2011 18:35 _Quasar_ wrote:On August 29 2011 18:32 Ryo wrote:On August 29 2011 18:06 BLinD-RawR wrote:I hope there is at least oe new team otherwise there will only be 7 teams in proleague.  Quite possible that there will be a new team. from where is there such an info?  BTW - I think that if things go well (PL starts a new season), it's quite probable that Samsung acquires Shine. Lack of good zerg + obviously Shine being a very good candidate for a practice partner to Stork, having beaten him such a lot of times.  Gogo KHAN.Shine!  Speculation from a joinsMSN article. + Show Spoiler +On August 29 2011 13:07 Ryo wrote:Very likely to be Fox, MBC and Oz: http://isplus.joinsmsn.com/article/005/6075005.html?cloc+ Show Spoiler +Speculation from the article: It's not possible for all 40 progamers from these 3 teams to be drafted into the remaining 6 teams (excluding ACE). However, if a new team is formed, most players will be able to retain their jobs and we can have 8 teams in the PL this coming season. There are only 8 teams in Korea's professional baseball league so this is not unusual and might actually help in making the league more efficient (some of these teams have been ill-managed). But wait for a confirmation from either DES or Fomos first. Edit: lol Fomos picks up the story from the joinsMSN article and states that if new sponsors cannot be found for all the 3 teams, forming a new team to include some of the players from these 3 teams is very possible. http://www.fomos.kr/board/board.php?mode=read&keyno=120199&db=issue&cate=&page=1&field=&kwrd= like I said Killer,Jaedong,Baby,SEAAAAAAA,midas,wooki,Jaehoon,anytime,Hiya,sHy,Han,Shine,RoRo...my god Poor rookies though, where will they go.  I'm not too worried about the senior players. On August 29 2011 18:44 SkelA wrote: Sad that OZ is disbanding too. I thought the 3rd one will be STX for sure.
Now we only need one team to be formed from the 3 that are disbanding and the rest of the players to be drafted by the remaining teams and its not that bad. And KIller for KHAN pls ! STX has always seemed quite willing to pump money into their esports teams, judging from the high salaries Calm and Kal are under (and paying tossgirl to promote their brand). The SF team just won the PL too so it was very unlikely to have been STX. Killer to Khan would be a very good outcome.  yeah the rookies will barely get playtime at all,they will probably quit progaming or move to SC2 or something...I hope they get to continue trying to live their progaming reams. Best to have at least 1 new team and then 1 draft (like the Estro draft) for the remaining players.
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So sad to see 3 teams less in PL And as a JD fan i just hope that he will continue to play (tbh i don't really care it it will be sc:bw or sc2 or whatever) because he is f****ing amazing.
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Well if there is at least 1 new team, there is a chance to make PL more even in terms of team strength.
With these 3 teams disbanding there is a huge free talent pool to form a really really strong line-up, a team based around Jaedong, Baby, Sea, Killer, Jaehoon seems quite deadly.
Maybe Samsung can get a good draft as well, combing with their aspiring rookies they could become an even stronger team as well, leading up to a closer overall balance between the teams, making Proleague more exciting (for me, at least)
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On August 29 2011 18:53 BLinD-RawR wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2011 18:42 Ryo wrote:On August 29 2011 18:35 _Quasar_ wrote:On August 29 2011 18:32 Ryo wrote:On August 29 2011 18:06 BLinD-RawR wrote:I hope there is at least oe new team otherwise there will only be 7 teams in proleague.  Quite possible that there will be a new team. from where is there such an info?  BTW - I think that if things go well (PL starts a new season), it's quite probable that Samsung acquires Shine. Lack of good zerg + obviously Shine being a very good candidate for a practice partner to Stork, having beaten him such a lot of times.  Gogo KHAN.Shine!  Speculation from a joinsMSN article. + Show Spoiler +On August 29 2011 13:07 Ryo wrote:Very likely to be Fox, MBC and Oz: http://isplus.joinsmsn.com/article/005/6075005.html?cloc+ Show Spoiler +Speculation from the article: It's not possible for all 40 progamers from these 3 teams to be drafted into the remaining 6 teams (excluding ACE). However, if a new team is formed, most players will be able to retain their jobs and we can have 8 teams in the PL this coming season. There are only 8 teams in Korea's professional baseball league so this is not unusual and might actually help in making the league more efficient (some of these teams have been ill-managed). But wait for a confirmation from either DES or Fomos first. Edit: lol Fomos picks up the story from the joinsMSN article and states that if new sponsors cannot be found for all the 3 teams, forming a new team to include some of the players from these 3 teams is very possible. http://www.fomos.kr/board/board.php?mode=read&keyno=120199&db=issue&cate=&page=1&field=&kwrd= like I said Killer,Jaedong,Baby,SEAAAAAAA,midas,wooki,Jaehoon,anytime,Hiya,sHy,Han,Shine,RoRo...my god
Yeah but who's gonna pay their salaries...?
God damn it if OZ is seriously disbanding I wish kOre's Hwaseung stuff didn't get sent back...
PS - Thanks Ryo for keeping up with this stuff, if we ever meet IRL I'll buy you lunch or something lol.. Sorry about MBC, I was starting to become a fan too, dat Jaehoon...
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Don't want to appear vulturish... Jaedong + others to STX or Khan and new team would really make every single proleague match an epic clash of titans. ACE is beefing up too.
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On August 29 2011 17:04 xBillehx wrote: :\ Someones gonna have to take a paycut to offset the higher salary payout for the teams if they end up taking in those displaced by this. Unless the other teams are limitless in the amount their willing to spend, I can't imagine all the progamers who lose their team will keep the same amount of pay.
![[image loading]](http://tutor2u.net/economics/gcse/images/demand_supply_price_equilibrium1.gif) Agreed, supply and demand: demand graph stays same, supply graph moves to the right as amount of players on the market increases. Result is lower price. So its time to tighten our seat belts and hold on tight, because its gonna be a helluva ride
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I hope that if they can't get the 3 new sponsors, that the merger actually happens. Imagine Baby practicing with JD
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On August 29 2011 19:08 BLinD-RawR wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2011 18:58 Ryo wrote:On August 29 2011 18:53 BLinD-RawR wrote:On August 29 2011 18:42 Ryo wrote:On August 29 2011 18:35 _Quasar_ wrote:On August 29 2011 18:32 Ryo wrote:On August 29 2011 18:06 BLinD-RawR wrote:I hope there is at least oe new team otherwise there will only be 7 teams in proleague.  Quite possible that there will be a new team. from where is there such an info?  BTW - I think that if things go well (PL starts a new season), it's quite probable that Samsung acquires Shine. Lack of good zerg + obviously Shine being a very good candidate for a practice partner to Stork, having beaten him such a lot of times.  Gogo KHAN.Shine!  Speculation from a joinsMSN article. + Show Spoiler +On August 29 2011 13:07 Ryo wrote:Very likely to be Fox, MBC and Oz: http://isplus.joinsmsn.com/article/005/6075005.html?cloc+ Show Spoiler +Speculation from the article: It's not possible for all 40 progamers from these 3 teams to be drafted into the remaining 6 teams (excluding ACE). However, if a new team is formed, most players will be able to retain their jobs and we can have 8 teams in the PL this coming season. There are only 8 teams in Korea's professional baseball league so this is not unusual and might actually help in making the league more efficient (some of these teams have been ill-managed). But wait for a confirmation from either DES or Fomos first. Edit: lol Fomos picks up the story from the joinsMSN article and states that if new sponsors cannot be found for all the 3 teams, forming a new team to include some of the players from these 3 teams is very possible. http://www.fomos.kr/board/board.php?mode=read&keyno=120199&db=issue&cate=&page=1&field=&kwrd= like I said Killer,Jaedong,Baby,SEAAAAAAA,midas,wooki,Jaehoon,anytime,Hiya,sHy,Han,Shine,RoRo...my god Poor rookies though, where will they go.  I'm not too worried about the senior players. On August 29 2011 18:44 SkelA wrote: Sad that OZ is disbanding too. I thought the 3rd one will be STX for sure.
Now we only need one team to be formed from the 3 that are disbanding and the rest of the players to be drafted by the remaining teams and its not that bad. And KIller for KHAN pls ! STX has always seemed quite willing to pump money into their esports teams, judging from the high salaries Calm and Kal are under (and paying tossgirl to promote their brand). The SF team just won the PL too so it was very unlikely to have been STX. Killer to Khan would be a very good outcome.  yeah the rookies will barely get playtime at all,they will probably quit progaming or move to SC2 or something...I hope they get to continue trying to live their progaming reams. Uhh things wont change for rookies, now matter how much of them a team has. Remember, upkeep of a player is cheap. Food, very low rent with the tight bunk bed quarters they live in, other low costs. The only real thing about having player is the salary, and rookies dont get any salary anyway. So its basically almost no problem to have teams draft more rookies
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Well, That is BW for me then
FML.
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On August 29 2011 19:50 Kipsate wrote: Well, That is BW for me then
FML.
go,I doubt you'll be gone for long anyway.
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