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Page 23. If I see any more BW vs SC2 debate from that point on you will get banned.
Broodwich
Profile Joined February 2009
United States393 Posts
August 29 2011 00:26 GMT
#481
On August 29 2011 09:22 Ryo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2011 09:16 Broodwich wrote:
Have to wonder what this does to the salaries of teams / players that are left. The corporations that are still funding the surviving teams were getting X hours of advertising a week on MBCgame from the Proleague that was shown on there, plus the MSL games. Have to say this is going to hurt progamer salaries on the surviving teams too, just having OSL and less Proleague games.

Gotta believe both of those teams are dead for good. If they couldn't find a sponsor to take over ESTRO or Hite last year, it's very unlikely they're going to be able to do it this year.

Hite is different. Operating rights of Hite belonged to OGN which is owned by OnMedia. CJ has a controlling stake in OnMedia. So basically Hite went back to its parent company.


Thanks for the clarification. You know your stuff. Still was a cutback in CJ's advertising dollars though.
Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
August 29 2011 00:30 GMT
#482
On August 29 2011 09:26 Broodwich wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2011 09:22 Ryo wrote:
On August 29 2011 09:16 Broodwich wrote:
Have to wonder what this does to the salaries of teams / players that are left. The corporations that are still funding the surviving teams were getting X hours of advertising a week on MBCgame from the Proleague that was shown on there, plus the MSL games. Have to say this is going to hurt progamer salaries on the surviving teams too, just having OSL and less Proleague games.

Gotta believe both of those teams are dead for good. If they couldn't find a sponsor to take over ESTRO or Hite last year, it's very unlikely they're going to be able to do it this year.

Hite is different. Operating rights of Hite belonged to OGN which is owned by OnMedia. CJ has a controlling stake in OnMedia. So basically Hite went back to its parent company.


Thanks for the clarification. You know your stuff. Still was a cutback in CJ's advertising dollars though.

Yep. Hite lost half their team in the match-fixing scandal so there was just no way they could continue. I do like this CJ team more than the previous one (thanks Leta and Horangie) but I will be very sad if they don't find any new sponsors this time round.
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XsebT
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Denmark2980 Posts
August 29 2011 00:37 GMT
#483
Thanks a lot for keeping us updated!
I'm gonna keep cool until the situation is more clear.
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Lazyer
Profile Joined August 2011
United States368 Posts
August 29 2011 00:40 GMT
#484
A sad year for BW Pro-Gaming T^T
Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-29 04:10:41
August 29 2011 04:07 GMT
#485
Very likely to be Fox, MBC and Oz:

http://isplus.joinsmsn.com/article/005/6075005.html?cloc

+ Show Spoiler +
Speculation from the article: It's not possible for all 40 progamers from these 3 teams to be drafted into the remaining 6 teams (excluding ACE). However, if a new team is formed, most players will be able to retain their jobs and we can have 8 teams in the PL this coming season. There are only 8 teams in Korea's professional baseball league so this is not unusual and might actually help in making the league more efficient (some of these teams have been ill-managed).


But wait for a confirmation from either DES or Fomos first.
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ShadeR
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7535 Posts
August 29 2011 04:14 GMT
#486
On August 29 2011 13:07 Ryo wrote:
Very likely to be Fox, MBC and Oz:

http://isplus.joinsmsn.com/article/005/6075005.html?cloc

+ Show Spoiler +
Speculation from the article: It's not possible for all 40 progamers from these 3 teams to be drafted into the remaining 6 teams (excluding ACE). However, if a new team is formed, most players will be able to retain their jobs and we can have 8 teams in the PL this coming season. There are only 8 teams in Korea's professional baseball league so this is not unusual and might actually help in making the league more efficient (some of these teams have been ill-managed).


But wait for a confirmation from either DES or Fomos first.

Has the possibility of some B-teams being elevated to Proleague been suggested at all, rumors, mentioned?
Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
August 29 2011 04:15 GMT
#487
On August 29 2011 13:14 ShadeR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2011 13:07 Ryo wrote:
Very likely to be Fox, MBC and Oz:

http://isplus.joinsmsn.com/article/005/6075005.html?cloc

+ Show Spoiler +
Speculation from the article: It's not possible for all 40 progamers from these 3 teams to be drafted into the remaining 6 teams (excluding ACE). However, if a new team is formed, most players will be able to retain their jobs and we can have 8 teams in the PL this coming season. There are only 8 teams in Korea's professional baseball league so this is not unusual and might actually help in making the league more efficient (some of these teams have been ill-managed).


But wait for a confirmation from either DES or Fomos first.

Has the possibility of some B-teams being elevated to Proleague been suggested at all, rumors, mentioned?

What do you mean by B-teams being elevated to Proleague?
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ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
August 29 2011 04:16 GMT
#488
wonder who would sponsor the new eighth team if Oz/WeMade/MBC would partly merge? Korean Air still rumoured?
Writerptrk
ShadeR
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7535 Posts
August 29 2011 04:20 GMT
#489
On August 29 2011 13:15 Ryo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2011 13:14 ShadeR wrote:
On August 29 2011 13:07 Ryo wrote:
Very likely to be Fox, MBC and Oz:

http://isplus.joinsmsn.com/article/005/6075005.html?cloc

+ Show Spoiler +
Speculation from the article: It's not possible for all 40 progamers from these 3 teams to be drafted into the remaining 6 teams (excluding ACE). However, if a new team is formed, most players will be able to retain their jobs and we can have 8 teams in the PL this coming season. There are only 8 teams in Korea's professional baseball league so this is not unusual and might actually help in making the league more efficient (some of these teams have been ill-managed).


But wait for a confirmation from either DES or Fomos first.

Has the possibility of some B-teams being elevated to Proleague been suggested at all, rumors, mentioned?

What do you mean by B-teams being elevated to Proleague?

Like the SKT or CJ or Woongjin (i think those are the ones that are doing well) Dream league lineups entering proleague as separate teams to the A-team.
Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-29 04:25:14
August 29 2011 04:23 GMT
#490
On August 29 2011 13:20 ShadeR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2011 13:15 Ryo wrote:
On August 29 2011 13:14 ShadeR wrote:
On August 29 2011 13:07 Ryo wrote:
Very likely to be Fox, MBC and Oz:

http://isplus.joinsmsn.com/article/005/6075005.html?cloc

+ Show Spoiler +
Speculation from the article: It's not possible for all 40 progamers from these 3 teams to be drafted into the remaining 6 teams (excluding ACE). However, if a new team is formed, most players will be able to retain their jobs and we can have 8 teams in the PL this coming season. There are only 8 teams in Korea's professional baseball league so this is not unusual and might actually help in making the league more efficient (some of these teams have been ill-managed).


But wait for a confirmation from either DES or Fomos first.

Has the possibility of some B-teams being elevated to Proleague been suggested at all, rumors, mentioned?

What do you mean by B-teams being elevated to Proleague?

Like the SKT or CJ or Woongjin (i think those are the ones that are doing well) Dream league lineups entering proleague as separate teams to the A-team.

I've not heard of this rumour yet.

+ Show Spoiler +
Btw, Light is the new Stars captain.
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Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
August 29 2011 04:35 GMT
#491
A team combination of Mbc,fox,oz will be one hell of a firepower team >< and Its quite scary because mbc players has really good protoss line , fox terran , oz has jaedong and the killer . Having quality greater quantity in my opinion .
BW/KT Forever R.I.P KT.Violet dearly missed ..
Sworn
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada920 Posts
August 29 2011 04:40 GMT
#492
In all honesty I hope its Oz because then JD will go to a team where he would have better teammates and I think it would help him resurge as a player. Sad to see another team go down though.
"Duty is heavy as a mountain, death is light as a feather." CJ Entus Fighting! <3 Effort
wussleeQ
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States3130 Posts
August 29 2011 04:45 GMT
#493
I really wish some other sponsors would step in . Would give new hope to us
BW -> League -> CSGO
Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
August 29 2011 04:57 GMT
#494
^ Well, if it's any consolation, I can tell you that there will very likely be more seasons of PL. Kespa are holding a rookie draft tomorrow. This time only 14-15 players will be participating, since they're expecting there to be at least one draft of the disbanded teams. Kespa are also holding another progamer education seminar on 6th September, so yeah, PL will probably carry on.
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Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
August 29 2011 05:00 GMT
#495
On August 29 2011 13:57 Ryo wrote:
^ Well, if it's any consolation, I can tell you that there will very likely be more seasons of PL. Kespa are holding a rookie draft tomorrow. This time only 14-15 players will be participating, since they're expecting there to be at least one draft of the disbanded teams. Kespa are also holding another progamer education seminar on 6th September, so yeah, PL will probably carry on.


That's good news ryo ^^ hope this bring more new blood in to the pl scene .
BW/KT Forever R.I.P KT.Violet dearly missed ..
Hyde
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Australia14568 Posts
August 29 2011 05:21 GMT
#496
I wish the news would just come out so I can move on instead of sitting here, the waiting is killing me (talk about mental anguish). If Oz/Fox/MBC merged together, like Sawamura said, it would be quite a powerhouse and a serious contender for SPL championship. But at the same time, while we still maintain one team it would mean that a lot of b-teamers/practice partners and possibly under performing players will be let go, and that saddens me. Especially the B-teamers/practice partners, they never got a shot on the Live stage
Because when you left, Brood War was all spotlights and titans. Now, with the death of the big leagues, Brood War has moved to the basements and carparks. Now, Brood War is unlicensed brawls, lost teeth, and bloody fights for fistfulls of money - SirJolt
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50714 Posts
August 29 2011 06:04 GMT
#497
On August 29 2011 13:23 Ryo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2011 13:20 ShadeR wrote:
On August 29 2011 13:15 Ryo wrote:
On August 29 2011 13:14 ShadeR wrote:
On August 29 2011 13:07 Ryo wrote:
Very likely to be Fox, MBC and Oz:

http://isplus.joinsmsn.com/article/005/6075005.html?cloc

+ Show Spoiler +
Speculation from the article: It's not possible for all 40 progamers from these 3 teams to be drafted into the remaining 6 teams (excluding ACE). However, if a new team is formed, most players will be able to retain their jobs and we can have 8 teams in the PL this coming season. There are only 8 teams in Korea's professional baseball league so this is not unusual and might actually help in making the league more efficient (some of these teams have been ill-managed).


But wait for a confirmation from either DES or Fomos first.

Has the possibility of some B-teams being elevated to Proleague been suggested at all, rumors, mentioned?

What do you mean by B-teams being elevated to Proleague?

Like the SKT or CJ or Woongjin (i think those are the ones that are doing well) Dream league lineups entering proleague as separate teams to the A-team.

I've not heard of this rumour yet.

+ Show Spoiler +
Btw, Light is the new Stars captain.


yes I read the article(in engrish but I understood it)

the idea of having Jaedong,Baby and Sea in the same team is wow....
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amiamo
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)5 Posts
August 29 2011 06:06 GMT
#498
There are articles coming up about OZ... disbanding... T.T Anybody have more details or know what's going to happen to JD?
hacklebeast
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5090 Posts
August 29 2011 06:06 GMT
#499
I though OZ+ another team would be really imbalanced, but then I thought about it: SKT is already really imbalanced, and KT beat them, so they are also really imbalanced. CJ was doing well, but effort is coming back (who is supposedly going to be the best player on the team) so they are going to be really imbalanced.

It's like if PL was a building, and you just threw imbalanced teams at it until it fell over, but because the building is now on it's side, it is now even more balanced.

I hope that made sense... Either that, or the BW gods were displeased with ace winning too many games and now wants to make all the other teams better so that the are super bad again.
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rainei
Profile Joined November 2009
Canada1316 Posts
August 29 2011 06:19 GMT
#500
oh god no. please. Oz was really starting to show some real promise for next year, with Killer coming into his own and Shy showing potential. I really have come to love Hwaseung Oz as a team, even with their rather quirky makeup with Jaedong and many others who try hard to pull out wins; I can't bear the thought of them disbanding.
All aboard the HSY fanboat/train/ whatever form of transportation you desire!! Everyday is Sojin day
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