• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 17:32
CET 23:32
KST 07:32
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
PiG Sty Festival #5: RO16 Group Stage Preview3Team Liquid Map Contest #20: The Finalists7[Part 4] The Good, Bad, and Ridiculous of Proleague24Greatest Players of All Time: 2025 Update168Master's Coliseum 8: Playoff Finale Preview10
Community News
Weekly Cups (Feb 17-23): Clem and herO split 2-22OGN to release AI-upscaled StarLeague from Feb 2465BGE Stara Zagora 2025 - Qualifiers & Info5Weekly Cups (Feb 10-16): Clem Wins, What's New?7PIG STY FESTIVAL 5.0! (27 Feb - 16 March)19
StarCraft 2
General
Annual "is EPT/GSL over?" thread - (Answer: We Don't Know) PiG Sty Festival #5: RO16 Group Stage Preview Team Liquid Map Contest #20: The Finalists Weekly Cups (Feb 17-23): Clem and herO split 2-2 Create StarCraft models with 3D printing
Tourneys
PIG STY FESTIVAL 5.0! (27 Feb - 16 March) Tenacious Turtle Tussle SOOPer7s Showmatches 2025 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament SOOP Starcraft Global #14
Strategy
[G] Writing Build Order Guides
Custom Maps
Work In Progress Melee Maps Simple Questions/Answers
External Content
Mutation # 461 Hostile Takeover Mutation # 462 Grave Danger Mutation # 460 Wheel of Misfortune: The Vermillion Mutation # 459 Portal Power
Brood War
General
BGH auto balance -> http://bghmmr.com/ How to edit a Broodwar replay file? BW General Discussion OGN to release AI-upscaled StarLeague from Feb 24 Thoughts on rarely used units
Tourneys
[CSLPRO] Monthly Prize Pool Update! Small VOD Thread 2.0 BSL 2025 SPRING LAN - Kraków OPEN - 05 - 06 April [Megathread] Daily Proleagues
Strategy
Are corsairs+reavers, DTs+corsairs still good now? BGH - An Analysis. With Data! Fighting Spirit mining rates Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy)
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Age of Empires IV Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Avowed RPG Beyond All Reason
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
LiquidLegends to reintegrate into TL.net
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Hearthstone
LiquidHearth Forum Rules Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Plays: Diplomacy Survivor II: The Amazon
Community
General
European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Elon Musk's lies, propaganda, etc. Trading/Investing Thread
Fan Clubs
The Polt Fan Club fOrGG/Fin Fan Club Harstem Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece [Books] Epic-Fantasy series discussion thread Movie Discussion! Debunking a Myth: StarCraft vs WH40k
Sports
2024 - 2025 Football Thread ICC Cricket World Cup 2015 [Cricket] Shane Warne passes away at the age of 52 2023 Cricket World Cup NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Simple Questions Simple Answers Getting started in Photography Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Ask TL Staff Anything
Blogs
The Euthyphro Argum…
KrillinFromwales
How Skill and Diversity Infl…
TrAiDoS
Socialism Anyone?
GreenHorizons
Flash @ Namkraft's Ladderne…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1502 users

Hwaseung Oz reported to disband - Page 25

Forum Index > BW General
1706 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 23 24 25 26 27 86 Next
Page 23. If I see any more BW vs SC2 debate from that point on you will get banned.
Broodwich
Profile Joined February 2009
United States393 Posts
August 29 2011 00:26 GMT
#481
On August 29 2011 09:22 Ryo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2011 09:16 Broodwich wrote:
Have to wonder what this does to the salaries of teams / players that are left. The corporations that are still funding the surviving teams were getting X hours of advertising a week on MBCgame from the Proleague that was shown on there, plus the MSL games. Have to say this is going to hurt progamer salaries on the surviving teams too, just having OSL and less Proleague games.

Gotta believe both of those teams are dead for good. If they couldn't find a sponsor to take over ESTRO or Hite last year, it's very unlikely they're going to be able to do it this year.

Hite is different. Operating rights of Hite belonged to OGN which is owned by OnMedia. CJ has a controlling stake in OnMedia. So basically Hite went back to its parent company.


Thanks for the clarification. You know your stuff. Still was a cutback in CJ's advertising dollars though.
Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
August 29 2011 00:30 GMT
#482
On August 29 2011 09:26 Broodwich wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2011 09:22 Ryo wrote:
On August 29 2011 09:16 Broodwich wrote:
Have to wonder what this does to the salaries of teams / players that are left. The corporations that are still funding the surviving teams were getting X hours of advertising a week on MBCgame from the Proleague that was shown on there, plus the MSL games. Have to say this is going to hurt progamer salaries on the surviving teams too, just having OSL and less Proleague games.

Gotta believe both of those teams are dead for good. If they couldn't find a sponsor to take over ESTRO or Hite last year, it's very unlikely they're going to be able to do it this year.

Hite is different. Operating rights of Hite belonged to OGN which is owned by OnMedia. CJ has a controlling stake in OnMedia. So basically Hite went back to its parent company.


Thanks for the clarification. You know your stuff. Still was a cutback in CJ's advertising dollars though.

Yep. Hite lost half their team in the match-fixing scandal so there was just no way they could continue. I do like this CJ team more than the previous one (thanks Leta and Horangie) but I will be very sad if they don't find any new sponsors this time round.
영원히 엠비씨게임 히어로 팬.
XsebT
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Denmark2980 Posts
August 29 2011 00:37 GMT
#483
Thanks a lot for keeping us updated!
I'm gonna keep cool until the situation is more clear.
화이팅
Lazyer
Profile Joined August 2011
United States314 Posts
August 29 2011 00:40 GMT
#484
A sad year for BW Pro-Gaming T^T
Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-29 04:10:41
August 29 2011 04:07 GMT
#485
Very likely to be Fox, MBC and Oz:

http://isplus.joinsmsn.com/article/005/6075005.html?cloc

+ Show Spoiler +
Speculation from the article: It's not possible for all 40 progamers from these 3 teams to be drafted into the remaining 6 teams (excluding ACE). However, if a new team is formed, most players will be able to retain their jobs and we can have 8 teams in the PL this coming season. There are only 8 teams in Korea's professional baseball league so this is not unusual and might actually help in making the league more efficient (some of these teams have been ill-managed).


But wait for a confirmation from either DES or Fomos first.
영원히 엠비씨게임 히어로 팬.
ShadeR
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7535 Posts
August 29 2011 04:14 GMT
#486
On August 29 2011 13:07 Ryo wrote:
Very likely to be Fox, MBC and Oz:

http://isplus.joinsmsn.com/article/005/6075005.html?cloc

+ Show Spoiler +
Speculation from the article: It's not possible for all 40 progamers from these 3 teams to be drafted into the remaining 6 teams (excluding ACE). However, if a new team is formed, most players will be able to retain their jobs and we can have 8 teams in the PL this coming season. There are only 8 teams in Korea's professional baseball league so this is not unusual and might actually help in making the league more efficient (some of these teams have been ill-managed).


But wait for a confirmation from either DES or Fomos first.

Has the possibility of some B-teams being elevated to Proleague been suggested at all, rumors, mentioned?
Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
August 29 2011 04:15 GMT
#487
On August 29 2011 13:14 ShadeR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2011 13:07 Ryo wrote:
Very likely to be Fox, MBC and Oz:

http://isplus.joinsmsn.com/article/005/6075005.html?cloc

+ Show Spoiler +
Speculation from the article: It's not possible for all 40 progamers from these 3 teams to be drafted into the remaining 6 teams (excluding ACE). However, if a new team is formed, most players will be able to retain their jobs and we can have 8 teams in the PL this coming season. There are only 8 teams in Korea's professional baseball league so this is not unusual and might actually help in making the league more efficient (some of these teams have been ill-managed).


But wait for a confirmation from either DES or Fomos first.

Has the possibility of some B-teams being elevated to Proleague been suggested at all, rumors, mentioned?

What do you mean by B-teams being elevated to Proleague?
영원히 엠비씨게임 히어로 팬.
ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
August 29 2011 04:16 GMT
#488
wonder who would sponsor the new eighth team if Oz/WeMade/MBC would partly merge? Korean Air still rumoured?
Writerptrk
ShadeR
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7535 Posts
August 29 2011 04:20 GMT
#489
On August 29 2011 13:15 Ryo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2011 13:14 ShadeR wrote:
On August 29 2011 13:07 Ryo wrote:
Very likely to be Fox, MBC and Oz:

http://isplus.joinsmsn.com/article/005/6075005.html?cloc

+ Show Spoiler +
Speculation from the article: It's not possible for all 40 progamers from these 3 teams to be drafted into the remaining 6 teams (excluding ACE). However, if a new team is formed, most players will be able to retain their jobs and we can have 8 teams in the PL this coming season. There are only 8 teams in Korea's professional baseball league so this is not unusual and might actually help in making the league more efficient (some of these teams have been ill-managed).


But wait for a confirmation from either DES or Fomos first.

Has the possibility of some B-teams being elevated to Proleague been suggested at all, rumors, mentioned?

What do you mean by B-teams being elevated to Proleague?

Like the SKT or CJ or Woongjin (i think those are the ones that are doing well) Dream league lineups entering proleague as separate teams to the A-team.
Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-29 04:25:14
August 29 2011 04:23 GMT
#490
On August 29 2011 13:20 ShadeR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2011 13:15 Ryo wrote:
On August 29 2011 13:14 ShadeR wrote:
On August 29 2011 13:07 Ryo wrote:
Very likely to be Fox, MBC and Oz:

http://isplus.joinsmsn.com/article/005/6075005.html?cloc

+ Show Spoiler +
Speculation from the article: It's not possible for all 40 progamers from these 3 teams to be drafted into the remaining 6 teams (excluding ACE). However, if a new team is formed, most players will be able to retain their jobs and we can have 8 teams in the PL this coming season. There are only 8 teams in Korea's professional baseball league so this is not unusual and might actually help in making the league more efficient (some of these teams have been ill-managed).


But wait for a confirmation from either DES or Fomos first.

Has the possibility of some B-teams being elevated to Proleague been suggested at all, rumors, mentioned?

What do you mean by B-teams being elevated to Proleague?

Like the SKT or CJ or Woongjin (i think those are the ones that are doing well) Dream league lineups entering proleague as separate teams to the A-team.

I've not heard of this rumour yet.

+ Show Spoiler +
Btw, Light is the new Stars captain.
영원히 엠비씨게임 히어로 팬.
Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
August 29 2011 04:35 GMT
#491
A team combination of Mbc,fox,oz will be one hell of a firepower team >< and Its quite scary because mbc players has really good protoss line , fox terran , oz has jaedong and the killer . Having quality greater quantity in my opinion .
BW/KT Forever R.I.P KT.Violet dearly missed ..
Sworn
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada920 Posts
August 29 2011 04:40 GMT
#492
In all honesty I hope its Oz because then JD will go to a team where he would have better teammates and I think it would help him resurge as a player. Sad to see another team go down though.
"Duty is heavy as a mountain, death is light as a feather." CJ Entus Fighting! <3 Effort
wussleeQ
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States3130 Posts
August 29 2011 04:45 GMT
#493
I really wish some other sponsors would step in . Would give new hope to us
BW -> League -> CSGO
Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
August 29 2011 04:57 GMT
#494
^ Well, if it's any consolation, I can tell you that there will very likely be more seasons of PL. Kespa are holding a rookie draft tomorrow. This time only 14-15 players will be participating, since they're expecting there to be at least one draft of the disbanded teams. Kespa are also holding another progamer education seminar on 6th September, so yeah, PL will probably carry on.
영원히 엠비씨게임 히어로 팬.
Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
August 29 2011 05:00 GMT
#495
On August 29 2011 13:57 Ryo wrote:
^ Well, if it's any consolation, I can tell you that there will very likely be more seasons of PL. Kespa are holding a rookie draft tomorrow. This time only 14-15 players will be participating, since they're expecting there to be at least one draft of the disbanded teams. Kespa are also holding another progamer education seminar on 6th September, so yeah, PL will probably carry on.


That's good news ryo ^^ hope this bring more new blood in to the pl scene .
BW/KT Forever R.I.P KT.Violet dearly missed ..
Hyde
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Australia14568 Posts
August 29 2011 05:21 GMT
#496
I wish the news would just come out so I can move on instead of sitting here, the waiting is killing me (talk about mental anguish). If Oz/Fox/MBC merged together, like Sawamura said, it would be quite a powerhouse and a serious contender for SPL championship. But at the same time, while we still maintain one team it would mean that a lot of b-teamers/practice partners and possibly under performing players will be let go, and that saddens me. Especially the B-teamers/practice partners, they never got a shot on the Live stage
Because when you left, Brood War was all spotlights and titans. Now, with the death of the big leagues, Brood War has moved to the basements and carparks. Now, Brood War is unlicensed brawls, lost teeth, and bloody fights for fistfulls of money - SirJolt
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES49496 Posts
August 29 2011 06:04 GMT
#497
On August 29 2011 13:23 Ryo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2011 13:20 ShadeR wrote:
On August 29 2011 13:15 Ryo wrote:
On August 29 2011 13:14 ShadeR wrote:
On August 29 2011 13:07 Ryo wrote:
Very likely to be Fox, MBC and Oz:

http://isplus.joinsmsn.com/article/005/6075005.html?cloc

+ Show Spoiler +
Speculation from the article: It's not possible for all 40 progamers from these 3 teams to be drafted into the remaining 6 teams (excluding ACE). However, if a new team is formed, most players will be able to retain their jobs and we can have 8 teams in the PL this coming season. There are only 8 teams in Korea's professional baseball league so this is not unusual and might actually help in making the league more efficient (some of these teams have been ill-managed).


But wait for a confirmation from either DES or Fomos first.

Has the possibility of some B-teams being elevated to Proleague been suggested at all, rumors, mentioned?

What do you mean by B-teams being elevated to Proleague?

Like the SKT or CJ or Woongjin (i think those are the ones that are doing well) Dream league lineups entering proleague as separate teams to the A-team.

I've not heard of this rumour yet.

+ Show Spoiler +
Btw, Light is the new Stars captain.


yes I read the article(in engrish but I understood it)

the idea of having Jaedong,Baby and Sea in the same team is wow....
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
amiamo
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)5 Posts
August 29 2011 06:06 GMT
#498
There are articles coming up about OZ... disbanding... T.T Anybody have more details or know what's going to happen to JD?
hacklebeast
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5090 Posts
August 29 2011 06:06 GMT
#499
I though OZ+ another team would be really imbalanced, but then I thought about it: SKT is already really imbalanced, and KT beat them, so they are also really imbalanced. CJ was doing well, but effort is coming back (who is supposedly going to be the best player on the team) so they are going to be really imbalanced.

It's like if PL was a building, and you just threw imbalanced teams at it until it fell over, but because the building is now on it's side, it is now even more balanced.

I hope that made sense... Either that, or the BW gods were displeased with ace winning too many games and now wants to make all the other teams better so that the are super bad again.
Protoss: Best, Paralyze, Jangbi, Nal_Ra || Terran: Oov, Boxer, Fantasy, Hiya|| Zerg: Yellow, Zero
rainei
Profile Joined November 2009
Canada1316 Posts
August 29 2011 06:19 GMT
#500
oh god no. please. Oz was really starting to show some real promise for next year, with Killer coming into his own and Shy showing potential. I really have come to love Hwaseung Oz as a team, even with their rather quirky makeup with Jaedong and many others who try hard to pull out wins; I can't bear the thought of them disbanding.
All aboard the HSY fanboat/train/ whatever form of transportation you desire!! Everyday is Sojin day
Prev 1 23 24 25 26 27 86 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 1h 28m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
UpATreeSC 144
NeuroSwarm 132
ForJumy 82
Railgan 37
CosmosSc2 37
StarCraft: Brood War
Aegong 91
Dota 2
febbydoto11
League of Legends
so1dier4
Counter-Strike
fl0m1671
Fnx 1538
Foxcn820
Stewie2K65
nookyyy 62
Super Smash Bros
C9.Mang0167
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu585
Other Games
Grubby10278
summit1g8487
Dendi1469
Pyrionflax217
Trikslyr86
Skadoodle75
JuggernautJason14
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick2323
StarCraft 2
ESL.tv121
Other Games
BasetradeTV109
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 22 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• musti20045 35
• davetesta25
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• sooper7s
• Migwel
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Laughngamez YouTube
• intothetv
• LaughNgamezSOOP
StarCraft: Brood War
• RayReign 6
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV425
• Noizen35
League of Legends
• Doublelift4231
• imaqtpie3071
• TFBlade1290
• PePiiNeRO547
Other Games
• Scarra1446
• Shiphtur262
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
1h 28m
OSC
2h 28m
PiG Sty Festival
10h 28m
Clem vs Bunny
Solar vs Zoun
Replay Cast
10h 28m
BSL Nation Wars 2
21h 28m
Korean StarCraft League
1d 4h
PiG Sty Festival
1d 10h
herO vs Rogue
ByuN vs SKillous
SC Evo Complete
1d 13h
[BSL 2025] Weekly
1d 19h
Replay Cast
2 days
[ Show More ]
SOOP Global
2 days
ByuN vs Zoun
Rogue vs Bunny
PiG Sty Festival
2 days
MaxPax vs Classic
Dark vs Maru
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
BSL Nation Wars 2
2 days
The PondCast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSL 15: 2024 Winter
Master's Coliseum 8
Bitka W Nexusie

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2024 Season 5
StarCastTV International League 5
Top Gun of StarCraft Season2
OSC Championship Season 12
LiuLi Cup: 2024 Grand Finals
ECL Season 49: Europe
BLAST Bounty Spring Qual
PW Shanghai Major 2024
ESL Impact League Season 6
Shanghai Major: EU RMR B
Shanghai Major: EU RMR A
Shanghai Major: AMER RMR

Upcoming

2025 SCS SPRING
Platinum Anchor Qualifying S3
Torneo Presencial Pucallpa 2025
HSC XXVII
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2025
BLAST Open Spring 2025
ESL Pro League S21
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2025
IEM Katowice 2025
BLAST Bounty Spring 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.