• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 21:58
CET 03:58
KST 11:58
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info3herO wins SC2 All-Star Invitational12SC2 All-Star Invitational: Tournament Preview5RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0
Community News
Weekly Cups (Jan 12-18): herO, MaxPax, Solar win0BSL Season 2025 - Full Overview and Conclusion8Weekly Cups (Jan 5-11): Clem wins big offline, Trigger upsets4$21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7)25Weekly Cups (Dec 29-Jan 4): Protoss rolls, 2v2 returns7
StarCraft 2
General
PhD study /w SC2 - help with a survey! herO wins SC2 All-Star Invitational Oliveira Would Have Returned If EWC Continued StarCraft 2 not at the Esports World Cup 2026 [Short Story] The Last GSL
Tourneys
$21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7) OSC Season 13 World Championship $70 Prize Pool Ladder Legends Academy Weekly Open! SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-18 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament
Strategy
Simple Questions Simple Answers
Custom Maps
[A] Starcraft Sound Mod
External Content
Mutation # 510 Safety Violation Mutation # 509 Doomsday Report Mutation # 508 Violent Night Mutation # 507 Well Trained
Brood War
General
[ASL21] Potential Map Candidates Which foreign pros are considered the best? Gypsy to Korea BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Fantasy's Q&A video
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues Azhi's Colosseum - Season 2 Small VOD Thread 2.0 [BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 10
Strategy
Current Meta Simple Questions, Simple Answers Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2 Game Theory for Starcraft
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Beyond All Reason Awesome Games Done Quick 2026!
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread NASA and the Private Sector
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club! The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
How Esports Advertising Shap…
TrAiDoS
My 2025 Magic: The Gathering…
DARKING
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
How do archons sleep?
8882
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1317 users

Hwaseung Oz reported to disband - Page 17

Forum Index > BW General
1706 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 15 16 17 18 19 86 Next
Page 23. If I see any more BW vs SC2 debate from that point on you will get banned.
Phyrigian
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
New Zealand1332 Posts
August 26 2011 00:51 GMT
#321
--- Nuked ---
gokai
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States812 Posts
August 26 2011 01:06 GMT
#322
Man, when MBC still had Bisu, I was a big fan. But now, I wouldn't really care if MBC disbanded. I just hope Sea can go to a big team like SKT or KT.
Lumire
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States607 Posts
August 26 2011 01:23 GMT
#323
On August 26 2011 09:51 3xiLe wrote:
I thought Hwaeusong (sp) was a shoe company Owned by Lecaf (a bigger shoe company!). Wouldn't it be something more like woongjin if that was the case?

Well woongjin is still actively trying to improve their roster and showing results in PL so its not impossible, but Oz seems by far the most likely.
|| o.o
spaZzNx-`
Profile Joined January 2011
Hong Kong1221 Posts
August 26 2011 01:29 GMT
#324
holy wow. ._.
TeamLiquid fighting~ Gogo SlayerS Terrans!
zenMaster
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada761 Posts
August 26 2011 02:15 GMT
#325
Jaedong to SKT, finally SKT will have someone to destroy Flash and win PL finals.
moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-26 04:38:54
August 26 2011 02:17 GMT
#326
On August 26 2011 09:51 3xiLe wrote:
I thought Hwaeusong (sp) was a shoe company Owned by Lecaf (a bigger shoe company!). Wouldn't it be something more like woongjin if that was the case?

Its the other way around. Lecaf, K-Swiss and Merrell are all part of Hwaseung corp (sports fashion), which is one of the subsidiaries of the Hwaseung group.

http://www.hwaseunggroup.com/eng/business/biz_area.asp?pcode=020100

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
I'm going to sleep, let me get some of that carpet.
gustavohmp
Profile Joined May 2011
Brazil139 Posts
August 26 2011 03:51 GMT
#327
Hwaseung cant disband
Whos gonna advertise their shoes to Korean teenagers? They need Jaedong.
JangBi will go the finals.
e_i_pi_1_0
Profile Joined September 2009
933 Posts
August 26 2011 14:49 GMT
#328
Has there been any updates on which team is disbanding?
Jaedong and Hwaseung Oz fan.
Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
August 26 2011 14:54 GMT
#329
On August 26 2011 23:49 e_i_pi_1_0 wrote:
Has there been any updates on which team is disbanding?

Nothing is confirmed yet.
영원히 엠비씨게임 히어로 팬.
tryummm
Profile Joined August 2009
774 Posts
August 26 2011 14:58 GMT
#330
Hopefully SKT gets Flash in the free agency and Oz resigns so SKT can also pick up Jaedong.
ShadeR
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7535 Posts
August 26 2011 14:58 GMT
#331
Is it even confirmed that 1 other team is also disbanding? What is the purpose of telling us one more team but not which one is disbanding?
Invictus
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Singapore2697 Posts
August 26 2011 15:08 GMT
#332
On August 26 2011 23:58 tryummm wrote:
Hopefully SKT gets Flash in the free agency and Oz resigns so SKT can also pick up Jaedong.


yea then hopefully u see the end of BW since all SKT would do all day is field bisu flash jaedong best and fantasy and you only live for upsets. seriously even the progamers said they didnt want to be on the same team so that some form of competition can be maintained
Lee Jaedong Fighting!
lone_hydra
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada1460 Posts
August 26 2011 15:25 GMT
#333
I can't blame the other teams for disbanding. I mean they accomplished nothing. It's been all SKT KT with a lil CJ and OZ(Thanks only to JD) for the last couple of years. The other teams are nothing but filler with very niche fanbases even for BW standards. No one wants to sponser filler material.
Fav Gamers: 2)Stork 5)Bisu
ninini
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden1204 Posts
August 26 2011 15:56 GMT
#334
On August 27 2011 00:25 lone_hydra wrote:
I can't blame the other teams for disbanding. I mean they accomplished nothing. It's been all SKT KT with a lil CJ and OZ(Thanks only to JD) for the last couple of years. The other teams are nothing but filler with very niche fanbases even for BW standards. No one wants to sponser filler material.

And how are Woongjin Stars and Hwaseung OZ different from for example Newcastle United in football? Of course, the big teams get the big sponsors, but it's not like the lesser teams can't get sponsors. Only being part of Proleague is worth a lot of money. If your team is successful, it's just a bonus. The teams are probably dropping because they don't believe in the future of esports. I don't blame them considering the messages MBC and OGN have been sending out the last year, like MBC and their wish to turn MBC Game into a more all-purpose channel, and OGN, by dropping their team and negotiating for SC2. If I was a 15 year old korean who wanted to become a BW progamer, I would probably quit now after hearing that FOX and another team is dropping, so right now it doesn't look like BW will survive for much longer, unless some new teams decide to join.
fabiano
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Brazil4644 Posts
August 26 2011 16:36 GMT
#335
Jaedong can't go to SKT, that would ruin the equilibrium, SKT would be close to invincible, it would require 2 Flashes to beat SKT, and now Flash is even getting his hand amputed... so...
"When the geyser died, a probe came out" - SirJolt
Soap
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Brazil1546 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-26 17:11:02
August 26 2011 17:09 GMT
#336
On August 27 2011 00:56 ninini wrote:
The teams are probably dropping because they don't believe in the future of esports.


They dropped because they didn't make sense. eSTRO didn't even have a title sponsor, hite is an alcoholic beverage company and WeMade a small MMORPG developer. It's actually a testimony to the future of ESPORTS that there's even a shipping company on board.

BW feels in a drag because 1. the foreign scene died for good; 2. the korean scene condensed into "young men that are very good at videogames", it lacks storylines. The last time something interesting happened was when EffOrt reverse-swept Flash away from a Golden Mouse and then... he retires.
Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
August 26 2011 17:12 GMT
#337
But he's coming back.
LEGEND!! LEGEND!!
robopork
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States511 Posts
August 26 2011 17:42 GMT
#338
Sucks about wemade, but this all feels a little too hearsay-ish. I guess in fairness I can't read the link, so... And that season with Flash v EffOrt and Flash v Jaedong in the MSL was intensely epic. I fell in love with Flash then.
“This left me alone to solve the coffee problem - a sort of catch-22, as in order to think straight I need caffeine, and in order to make that happen I need to think straight.”
hellbound
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom2242 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-26 17:44:38
August 26 2011 17:44 GMT
#339
On August 27 2011 02:09 Soap wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2011 00:56 ninini wrote:
The teams are probably dropping because they don't believe in the future of esports.


They dropped because they didn't make sense. eSTRO didn't even have a title sponsor, hite is an alcoholic beverage company and WeMade a small MMORPG developer. It's actually a testimony to the future of ESPORTS that there's even a shipping company on board.

BW feels in a drag because 1. the foreign scene died for good; 2. the korean scene condensed into "young men that are very good at videogames", it lacks storylines. The last time something interesting happened was when EffOrt reverse-swept Flash away from a Golden Mouse and then... he retires.


Since when do Koreans give a fuck about the foreign scene?
The fact that companies not directly related to computer gaming put money into it shows that it is mature as a sport (as opposed to razer, razer everywhere). How does it not make sense?
Sounds like you are an american wrestling fan... The main story of any competitive event is the best winning, everything else is a bonus.
It's amazing that for such a long post I disagree with every point you make.
KasdaTheEmperor
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Croatia239 Posts
August 26 2011 17:54 GMT
#340
On August 27 2011 02:12 Chef wrote:
But he's coming back.


Is Effort going to save esports?
''Our greatest glory is not in never falling, but in raising up everytime we fall''
Prev 1 15 16 17 18 19 86 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Replay Cast
00:00
Rongyi Cup S3 - Group D
CranKy Ducklings166
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
PiGStarcraft524
RuFF_SC2 129
Ketroc 60
StarCraft: Brood War
Artosis 828
Shuttle 56
Noble 30
Dota 2
monkeys_forever536
NeuroSwarm73
League of Legends
JimRising 909
Counter-Strike
taco 325
minikerr37
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox1880
Westballz40
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor170
Other Games
tarik_tv19168
gofns14395
summit1g12165
ViBE85
PiLiPiLi4
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1522
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Mapu6
• Berry_CruncH1
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota21570
League of Legends
• Scarra1815
Upcoming Events
RongYI Cup
8h 2m
Wardi Open
11h 2m
Monday Night Weeklies
14h 2m
OSC
21h 2m
Replay Cast
1d 6h
RongYI Cup
1d 8h
WardiTV Invitational
1d 11h
Replay Cast
2 days
RongYI Cup
2 days
WardiTV Invitational
2 days
[ Show More ]
The PondCast
3 days
HomeStory Cup
4 days
Korean StarCraft League
5 days
HomeStory Cup
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
HomeStory Cup
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
OSC Championship Season 13
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Acropolis #4 - TS4
Rongyi Cup S3
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S1: W6
Escore Tournament S1: W7
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Nations Cup 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.