MBCGame to shut down? - Page 69

On July 28 2011 07:24 emythrel wrote:
So being from the "other" starcraft community, does this mean that BW will take a huge hit in korea or is just a set back? Being not so familiar with the scene, it seems like this is a fucking huge blow. Could someone more knowledgeable perhaps give me some scope?

On July 28 2011 07:29 wassbix wrote:
Bunch of nerds that watch videogames on internet streams now think TV is obsolete lmao. Talk about flawed perception. TV is how you reach beyond your own little niche community and grow, and have a scene that has fans of diverse backgrounds and not just another nerd that plays X game currently.

There is a reason why BW tournies are held in prestigious locations and SC2 tournies are held in some guy's apartment and a modified classroom.

On July 28 2011 07:39 cristo1122 wrote:
until it actually happens i prefer to live in denial TT.

On July 28 2011 07:38 Blasterion wrote:

Yeah Because MLG and GSL are held in apartments. Your old BW superiority complex seems to be at work here. Because you don't wish to move on to SC2, ok nothing wrong. perfectly fine. But to insult our passion without even get your facts straight. You make Brood War fans look bad.

On July 28 2011 04:52 wassbix wrote:
God Fucking Damn it. It's been like 10 years MBC don't do this .

Also, fuck all the stupid GLOBAL ESPORT HYPE bullshit, it has never worked the past 10+ years and there isn't much sign of any improvement beyond some amateur webtv streaming. If you think that's mainstream you have no fucking clue what mainstream is (hint: it isn't some nerd watching streams in their bedroom).

Nothing has yet to achieve mainstream status like BW has and MBCgame / OGN / Kespa are the main players that accomplished this. My 8 year old cousin like JD, not because he likes videogames but because he thinks JD looks boss when crushing players with mutas. Look at BW streams and you see fangirls; they aren't fans of BW (as a game) but fan of the pros/teams and the showmanship aspect of BW. That is mainstream.

Increased viewership of current games only goes to tell you that internet streaming has improved says nothing of viability of games becoming mainstream. Gaming nerds watching stream of videogames they play means absolutely nothing. Sponsorship from gaming hardware makers also mean nothing, they will put in the minimum amount to advertise and then cut n run when the next shiny game comes along. Esport in its nature is bubbly and cyclical and that is why its so rare for a scene to last for one singular game title.

All in all, fuck esports I just want my BW

On July 28 2011 07:47 rasers wrote:

"passion. SC2." i loled :D 4 5 yearsa from now on Wc4 or SC3 or wahtever comes out and ur passion for this awful game is gone because u will jump on the new shit. nice passion you have there.

"because you dont wish to move on to SC2." mb it is because its worse? There is a reason why the only country that cares about quality in games (Korea) is still playing broodwar and was the only country 2 have true esports Fuckin west is just jumping on new shit no matter what.

On July 28 2011 07:38 Blasterion wrote:

Yeah Because MLG and GSL are held in apartments. Your old BW superiority complex seems to be at work here. Because you don't wish to move on to SC2, ok nothing wrong. perfectly fine. But to insult our passion without even get your facts straight. You make Brood War fans look bad.

On July 28 2011 07:54 wassbix wrote:


This has nothing to do with me being a BW elitist, nor am I attacking the efforts of SC2 tourny organizers. If I sound harsh I apologize, but all the stupid ESPORTSSSS one liner from people that don't understand the history is irritating.

I was merely pointing out the fact that unless the scene is able to break through the niche of being only seen by people that already play games, it's never going to attract the sponsorships and the attention like BW did. Not to mention gamers are probably the worst fan base to start from, since all they do is move onto the shiny newer game every year (How many people are still playing a non-mmo game from 5-6 years back? [besides bw/cs1.6/quake])

To this cause is why I'm stating organizations like MBCgame who displays games on public television is important, because it gives it a sense of legitimacy and not just an outlandish hobby for social rejects like medieval LARPing would be.

GSL is/was held in some outskirt classroom in Korea. Most people never paid attention to MLG before SC2 and there is 0% guarantee this hype is going to last. We all had the same shit when painkiller was released and it was going to become the 2nd coming of jesus for shooters, guess what it died and after that no one cared about ESPORTSSSS in the west till last year.

On July 28 2011 07:51 Blasterion wrote:

Well shit I better rejoice your MBC Channel is dying than huh? I never said that, I respect both games equally.
So what if there is SC3? It's still Starcraft. You're wrong if esports belongs to BW and BW alone. Those who cannot move on from the old era to the new can only die off

If this is how Brood War community is then I am glad your mainstream channel is dying

On July 28 2011 08:01 rasers wrote:

I never talked about "belong" or some shit. i just said the onyl true esports we have is in Korea. and you guys shouldnt talk about passion when the first thing u do is jump on the new game when it comes out.

On July 28 2011 08:04 Blasterion wrote:


Passion for a game or passion for esports? which one are we talking about here?

Tell me what is this true esports you have. The one channel that's changing to a MTV channel? That's your esports right there eh?

You seem to not care much about esports at all just how your own game's scene is like. But no view of the overall developement of esports. games come and go, ESports stays