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Megaliskuu
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5123 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-20 22:41:36
May 20 2011 22:41 GMT
#321
On May 19 2011 22:26 ShadeR wrote:
@ribbon moon and lyn are War3 players. I'm not so up to date but last i knew they were still Full-time War3 and part-time SC2.


Nope I'm pretty sure Lyn and Moon are full time SC2, as Moon has participated in multiple big SC2 tourneys around the world, including the NASL,GSL,IEM.
|BW>Everything|Add me on star2 KR server TheMuTaL.675 for practice games :)|NEX clan| https://www.dotabuff.com/players/183104694
aimaimaim
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Philippines2167 Posts
May 20 2011 23:41 GMT
#322
On May 21 2011 06:40 kamikami wrote:
So many people in this thread use the word "world" to describe Europe and North America.
SC2 is only popular there, where children are able to afford it. In other east asian countries with a strong gaming culture like China or Vietnam for example, BW fast map and UMS are much more popular than SC2.

And yet, they would account for at least 60% casual SC players of the planet, given their population and their strong addiction to gaming. Stop using the "world" as an argument lol.


well, South America, I think, is still embracing BW with arms wide open. I constantly hear my from my friend about those cuban or brazilian zerg rush build that I have yet to see in iccup (maybe because i haven't been playing for 2 months now O.o).
Religion is a dying idea .. || 'E-sport' outside Korea are nerds who wants to feel like rockstars. || I'm not gonna fuck with trolls on General Forum ever again .. FUCK!
epikAnglory
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1120 Posts
May 20 2011 23:45 GMT
#323
Both sides definitely have good arguments for this case, and choosing an official verdict will be very much of a hassle. This is certainly one of the better results and a great compromise.
710+ Posts with a Probe Icon =D
leviathan400
Profile Joined November 2006
United Kingdom393 Posts
May 21 2011 09:23 GMT
#324
Great news.

I want to see both BW and SC2 grow!
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RvB
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands6313 Posts
May 21 2011 09:40 GMT
#325
On May 21 2011 07:41 Megaliskuu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2011 22:26 ShadeR wrote:
@ribbon moon and lyn are War3 players. I'm not so up to date but last i knew they were still Full-time War3 and part-time SC2.


Nope I'm pretty sure Lyn and Moon are full time SC2, as Moon has participated in multiple big SC2 tourneys around the world, including the NASL,GSL,IEM.


No they're part time sc2 and part time wc3 players why else would they still be on the wc3 team of wemadefox..?
elementz
Profile Joined October 2010
United States281 Posts
May 22 2011 06:15 GMT
#326
Well gom rights are exclusive but it doesn't mean no one else can host tournaments, it means that they have to pay GOM to host said tournaments.
this mah s#$%$
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-22 06:30:59
May 22 2011 06:29 GMT
#327
On May 19 2011 23:41 therockmanxx wrote:
I really dont know whats happening right now guys
So Kespa can do the bw stuff because now they are friends with blizz...
Blizz want that Kespa runs a sc2tournm but kespa will never do it?
China is moving back to bw... xD
Gom is losing money every second?
Foreign fail at sc2 in korea?


I don't know what makes you think China is moving back to BW - almost all the Chinese BW players have basically either retired or made a switch to SC 2. A couple of Chinese eSports websites being denied re-stream rights by GOMTV is not going to make a difference. They have other games to cover, like DOTA and League of Legends, which are the most popular eSports games in China, not anything related to SC.

The BW scene outside of Korea has always been a niche community. I do not foresee this changing. SC 2, on the other hand, seems to be the real deal when it comes to the next big thing in Western eSports.
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
May 22 2011 06:31 GMT
#328
On May 22 2011 15:15 elementz wrote:
Well gom rights are exclusive but it doesn't mean no one else can host tournaments, it means that they have to pay GOM to host said tournaments.

GOM gave up their rights to BW a few months ago. OGN and MBCGame are paying the licence fees directly to Blizzard.

SC2 is a different story, though.
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Dakkas
Profile Joined October 2010
2550 Posts
May 22 2011 10:27 GMT
#329
On May 21 2011 06:40 kamikami wrote:
So many people in this thread use the word "world" to describe Europe and North America.
SC2 is only popular there, where children are able to afford it. In other east asian countries with a strong gaming culture like China or Vietnam for example, BW fast map and UMS are much more popular than SC2.

And yet, they would account for at least 60% casual SC players of the planet, given their population and their strong addiction to gaming. Stop using the "world" as an argument lol.


SC2 was only recently officially released in China so that's one reason why it's not as big. It's bigger in other parts of Asia like Taiwan where it has its own proleague. Also it's more popular in the South East asia region
mmdmmd
Profile Joined June 2007
722 Posts
May 22 2011 11:59 GMT
#330
On May 22 2011 15:29 Azarkon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2011 23:41 therockmanxx wrote:
I really dont know whats happening right now guys
So Kespa can do the bw stuff because now they are friends with blizz...
Blizz want that Kespa runs a sc2tournm but kespa will never do it?
China is moving back to bw... xD
Gom is losing money every second?
Foreign fail at sc2 in korea?


I don't know what makes you think China is moving back to BW - almost all the Chinese BW players have basically either retired or made a switch to SC 2. A couple of Chinese eSports websites being denied re-stream rights by GOMTV is not going to make a difference. They have other games to cover, like DOTA and League of Legends, which are the most popular eSports games in China, not anything related to SC.

The BW scene outside of Korea has always been a niche community. I do not foresee this changing. SC 2, on the other hand, seems to be the real deal when it comes to the next big thing in Western eSports.


Exposure, my friend. The best way to promote sc2 in China is to let these unofficial "super sites" to report/stream your product. We have 10 years of history to prove it.

Also I was talking about the general population, not players
kamikami
Profile Joined November 2010
France1057 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-22 21:11:54
May 22 2011 21:11 GMT
#331
On May 22 2011 19:27 Dakkas wrote:

SC2 was only recently officially released in China so that's one reason why it's not as big. It's bigger in other parts of Asia like Taiwan where it has its own proleague. Also it's more popular in the South East asia region


More popular than BW fast map ? I doubt it. I have Vietnamese friends who said to me that when they went to PC bangs there to play SC2 they only saw Dota or BW fast maps and when they played people asked "hey, what is the game you play ?"
BW low map is not popular either, but sc2 is definitely not "big" there at all.
Khassar de Templari
BlackTactiks
Profile Joined May 2011
United States52 Posts
May 23 2011 06:15 GMT
#332
This Is A Great Moment In E-Sports History I Hope Blizzard And KeSPA Keep Having A Great Relationship
Working Towards Greatness :)
moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
May 23 2011 06:16 GMT
#333
"Keep having" implies they are having a great relationship now, I think that's overstating it quite a bit
I'm going to sleep, let me get some of that carpet.
peekn
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States1152 Posts
May 23 2011 06:24 GMT
#334
Yay! Two more years of BW action!!

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