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FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10473 Posts
May 15 2011 16:19 GMT
#81
hiya + fanta = magikarp brothers
Writer#1 KT and FlaSh Fanboy || Woo Jung Ho Never Forget || Teamliquid Political Decision Desk
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ninini
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden1204 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-15 16:32:43
May 15 2011 16:21 GMT
#82
Actually Jaedong is Scyther.
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Scyther is a bad-ass looking Bug/Flying Pokemon with speed as his strength. Flying is very strong against Bugs (Zerg), so Scyther is the Bug vs Bug slayer. Bugs are weak against Fire and Ice though. Scyther vs Blastoise is a neutral fight, although Scyther have a better set of annoying/harrassing skill sets. But when Blastoise brings out Ice Beam or Blizzard, he usually wins.

Blastoise (Flash) owns Charizard (Bisu) pretty much always, except when he underrates him and is using Ice Beam or physical attacks in order to save his water spells.

Protoss: Grass, Psychic, Dragon
Terran: Water, Ice
Zerg: Bug, Poison

Hyuk - Gloom
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Gloom is not fully developed, but he might surprise you sometimes. His strength is against Grass (Protoss) Pokemon.

Sea - Seadra
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Best - Exeggutor
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The name fits him, since he have good macro, and grass is strong against water=Terran. This is also a Pokemon with many weaknesses, including taking 4x damage against Bugs (zerg).

Kal - Machoke
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The name speaks for itself. Intimidating, and strong against Normal Pokemon, since he's fighting, but he haven't developed into Machamp yet and is lacking against the top tier.
Rodiel3
Profile Joined March 2011
France1158 Posts
May 15 2011 16:28 GMT
#83
U have find the true !
http://www.youtube.com/user/rodiel3 SCBW FPVOD
sixfour
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
England11062 Posts
May 15 2011 16:41 GMT
#84
I naturally assumed this was some sort of Hiya reference.
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
May 15 2011 16:42 GMT
#85
That Jaedong versus Flash game wasn't even close! Flash never even got a CHANCE to attack Jaedong! Only time a unit of Flash's got into Jaedong's base was the scouting SCV. That's just incredible play by Jaedong. Kudos to him. The other games had at least a little back and forth to them.
dont let your memes be dreams - konydora, motivational speaker | not actually living in syria
IntoTheEmo
Profile Joined February 2009
Singapore1170 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-15 17:05:14
May 15 2011 17:01 GMT
#86
Lol I get it, Kal = Machoke

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Definitely agree with the FJB assessment, Flash is definitely the turtle, Bisu is the big dragon, and Jaedong hits you with the Stun Spore Spire build aka the Venusaur flower.

Yep I am smart ^^

Edit: saviOr could be Ma-choke too for that 3-0 get it~
MMOs kill APM. However Proleague plus BW Proscene music increase APM -> 100. 이제동 Fighting! Highest ranked Jaedong owner in FPL10 = clearly #1 Jaedong fan~! <- Keeping my sig from 2010
Kms
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia126 Posts
May 15 2011 17:37 GMT
#87
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LOL, ingenious theory you have there though OP!
Magus
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada450 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-15 18:11:58
May 15 2011 18:03 GMT
#88
If Flash is the OTHER turtle starter, the much better one, then Jaedong can rightly be Charizard.

Of course Venusaur is capable of tanking and sweeping, and as we know Jaedong is good at both macro games and hyper aggressive games. Charizard can only really set up with Swords Dance and Belly Drum.

Stylistically Jaedong should be Charizard, but I'm alright with him being Venusaur I guess.

Also it's Grass types that are known for annoying turtle like crazy strategies (Subseeding, anyone?), but a bulky water role also fits Flash too for the setup and sweep nature, or even just the acceptable offenses off the bat. Of course Blastoise is NOT a setup and sweep pokemon, or even really a bulky water. Empoleon on the other hand, is a good candidate for a setup sweep, as is Feraligatr (Agility and Swords/Dragon Dance respectively).

Edit:
Protoss: Grass, Psychic, Dragon
Terran: Water, Ice
Zerg: Bug, Poison

Bug and poison? The two weakest types? No...

Protoss: Dragon, Fighting, Dark, Psychic, Electric, Ice (stasis)
Terran: Water, Grass, Ghost, Steel, Normal, Fire
Zerg: Poison, Ground, Bug, Rock, Flying

Zerg vs Protoss is a little too even in this list, but I guess we'll blame that on Bisu.
Also they arguably all get Psychic and Fighting.
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
May 15 2011 19:17 GMT
#89
Protoss is suppose to be venosaur ..
inexplicably easy in the beginning and retardedly hard at top tier.
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
May 15 2011 19:19 GMT
#90
Haha this is going to be an awesome thread
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
xxpack09
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2160 Posts
May 15 2011 19:33 GMT
#91
On May 15 2011 19:13 Crunchums wrote:
there is no way Jaedong is venosaur, he should be charizard >: 3


That was my first thought, but then I realized Flash has to be the turtle
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
May 15 2011 19:33 GMT
#92
On May 15 2011 19:40 Hyde wrote:
Whilst I agree with the way the counters work, JD being venusaur just doesn't sit well with me, he has to be charizard as everyone has mentioned. It just goes with JD so well

Same for me. It's not that Charizard doesn't fit Bisu well, but JD just isn't a venasaur.
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
xxpack09
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2160 Posts
May 15 2011 19:38 GMT
#93
On May 16 2011 03:03 Magus wrote:
If Flash is the OTHER turtle starter, the much better one, then Jaedong can rightly be Charizard.

Of course Venusaur is capable of tanking and sweeping, and as we know Jaedong is good at both macro games and hyper aggressive games. Charizard can only really set up with Swords Dance and Belly Drum.

Stylistically Jaedong should be Charizard, but I'm alright with him being Venusaur I guess.

Also it's Grass types that are known for annoying turtle like crazy strategies (Subseeding, anyone?), but a bulky water role also fits Flash too for the setup and sweep nature, or even just the acceptable offenses off the bat. Of course Blastoise is NOT a setup and sweep pokemon, or even really a bulky water. Empoleon on the other hand, is a good candidate for a setup sweep, as is Feraligatr (Agility and Swords/Dragon Dance respectively).

Edit:
Protoss: Grass, Psychic, Dragon
Terran: Water, Ice
Zerg: Bug, Poison

Bug and poison? The two weakest types? No...

Protoss: Dragon, Fighting, Dark, Psychic, Electric, Ice (stasis)
Terran: Water, Grass, Ghost, Steel, Normal, Fire
Zerg: Poison, Ground, Bug, Rock, Flying

Zerg vs Protoss is a little too even in this list, but I guess we'll blame that on Bisu.
Also they arguably all get Psychic and Fighting.


Bug one of the weakest types? Lol have you seen the monsters of Gen V?

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Bug is badass now man
xxpack09
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2160 Posts
May 15 2011 19:38 GMT
#94
On May 16 2011 04:33 Grobyc wrote:
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On May 15 2011 19:40 Hyde wrote:
Whilst I agree with the way the counters work, JD being venusaur just doesn't sit well with me, he has to be charizard as everyone has mentioned. It just goes with JD so well

Same for me. It's not that Charizard doesn't fit Bisu well, but JD just isn't a venasaur.


JD is Venusaur with permanent sun--one-turn Solarbeam and double speed!
henzi
Profile Joined November 2010
United States200 Posts
May 15 2011 19:53 GMT
#95
Stork is pikachu, very beloved by everyone, potential to win against anyone with the right type of training despite his natural drawbacks. Of the four stork has maybe the best chance defeating flash (water vs electricity)
Antisocialmunky
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5912 Posts
May 15 2011 20:05 GMT
#96
Blastoise does kinda have siege mode.
[゚n゚] SSSSssssssSSsss ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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drag_
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
England425 Posts
May 15 2011 20:10 GMT
#97
Jaehoon magikarp anyone?
Also I don't really envisage any of the three as venosaur, but I think Jaedong as it works best for this analogy.
Magus
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada450 Posts
May 15 2011 20:23 GMT
#98
On May 16 2011 04:38 xxpack09 wrote:
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On May 16 2011 03:03 Magus wrote:
If Flash is the OTHER turtle starter, the much better one, then Jaedong can rightly be Charizard.

Of course Venusaur is capable of tanking and sweeping, and as we know Jaedong is good at both macro games and hyper aggressive games. Charizard can only really set up with Swords Dance and Belly Drum.

Stylistically Jaedong should be Charizard, but I'm alright with him being Venusaur I guess.

Also it's Grass types that are known for annoying turtle like crazy strategies (Subseeding, anyone?), but a bulky water role also fits Flash too for the setup and sweep nature, or even just the acceptable offenses off the bat. Of course Blastoise is NOT a setup and sweep pokemon, or even really a bulky water. Empoleon on the other hand, is a good candidate for a setup sweep, as is Feraligatr (Agility and Swords/Dragon Dance respectively).

Edit:
Protoss: Grass, Psychic, Dragon
Terran: Water, Ice
Zerg: Bug, Poison

Bug and poison? The two weakest types? No...

Protoss: Dragon, Fighting, Dark, Psychic, Electric, Ice (stasis)
Terran: Water, Grass, Ghost, Steel, Normal, Fire
Zerg: Poison, Ground, Bug, Rock, Flying

Zerg vs Protoss is a little too even in this list, but I guess we'll blame that on Bisu.
Also they arguably all get Psychic and Fighting.


Bug one of the weakest types? Lol have you seen the monsters of Gen V?

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Bug is badass now man

Ah true, I'm still in a Gen 4 mindset.
hacklebeast
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5090 Posts
May 15 2011 20:26 GMT
#99
On May 16 2011 04:53 henzi wrote:
Stork is pikachu, very beloved by everyone, potential to win against anyone with the right type of training despite his natural drawbacks. Of the four stork has maybe the best chance defeating flash (water vs electricity)


he's also good vs bisu which fits with electric>flying. And pikachu was the the closest thing to a 4th starter to finish TBLS= starter pokemon.
Protoss: Best, Paralyze, Jangbi, Nal_Ra || Terran: Oov, Boxer, Fantasy, Hiya|| Zerg: Yellow, Zero
Agh
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1053 Posts
May 15 2011 21:04 GMT
#100
let me show you my pokemanz

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I may appear to be an emotionless sarcastic pos, but just like an onion when you pull off more and more layers you find the exact same thing everytime and you start crying
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