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haylmfao
Profile Joined January 2011
124 Posts
May 09 2011 12:45 GMT
#61
On May 09 2011 21:44 johanngrunt wrote:
How unpopular is SC2 in Korea?

Compare the amount of people clapping at GSL to what you hear in proleague streams and you'll have the answer.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50595 Posts
May 09 2011 12:46 GMT
#62
On May 09 2011 21:44 johanngrunt wrote:
How unpopular is SC2 in Korea?


about a couple of months ago its was placed 13 in the top 15 games played in PC baangs.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
zeru
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
8156 Posts
May 09 2011 12:47 GMT
#63
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Takkara
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2503 Posts
May 09 2011 12:48 GMT
#64
On May 09 2011 21:42 Musou wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2011 21:28 Omegalisk wrote:
While it's great that they are finally coming to an agreement, that news article/forum post is extremely biased toward KESPA. I would like to see a more neutral announcement (maybe when the deal is actually signed).


Show nested quote +
On May 09 2011 21:30 Maliris wrote:
Hmm reading over that article again, it is incredibly biased towards kespa.. ;/
SDM doesn't exactly like SC2/blizzard either

You're not going to find a source that's less biased towards KeSPA. Fomos is by far the most Blizzard-friendly e-sports news site. DES and others are far more pro-KeSPA than Fomos, so if you're hoping to see something more neutral, you aren't going to be satisfied.


The point of bias isn't so much that it's against SC2, but that it's an unsourced claim relative to the story. It's not "sources close to the negotiation" it's not "Blizzard has said" it's not even "Kespa has said", it's "believed to have arrived due to SC2's failure to be embraced".

Who is the one who believes this to be true? It could just be an imprecise translation into English, but it makes the article sound like it is either the author or webizens that believe that, which could be far from the truth.

That's why I said I believe the stalemate is over, but will wait to see the real reason why.
Gee gee gee gee baby baby baby
Furycrab
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada456 Posts
May 09 2011 12:48 GMT
#65
The agreement is believed to have arrived due to starcraft2’s failure to be embraced by the Korean fans.


This I have a really hard time believing. Since by signing the contract they are subject to renewals (major point of contension) and it comes with obligations to put a Blizzard logo on everything they produce and likely with secondary obligation to not bad mouth any Blizzard products. However I don't think either party at this point wanted this to go to trial.

This is worth a whole lot more to Blizzard than the paltry Licensing fees, so my guess is that Blizzard might have slacked on some other terms in light of Foreign SC2 having a good scene building.

I think it's safe to say that everyone wins.
Too tired to come up with something witty.
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
11941 Posts
May 09 2011 12:48 GMT
#66
On May 09 2011 21:45 ShootingStars wrote:
Hope this means the SC1 pros will move on to SC2 soon! Times are changing, get on the with the change, and embrace it. Stop living in the past, Flash. :D


This announcement is about the opposite. There will no longer be court cases about shutting down the Korean BW scene...
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-09 12:50:34
May 09 2011 12:49 GMT
#67
Glad this is finally over, that dispute caused more disputes on forums like bw vs sc2 and I hated that, as I love bw forever and I enjoy watching sc2. My usual schedule is watch GSL, then watch the end of PL if it's not over, then watch the vods of the day before PL :p
Long life broodwar, long life starcraft 2
Belano
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Sweden657 Posts
May 09 2011 12:50 GMT
#68
If this means more korean sc2 tournaments, hell yes!
Bring back 1 supply roaches.
Finrod1
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany3997 Posts
May 09 2011 12:50 GMT
#69
Would be intresting to see if kespa is trying to get into sc2. But that maybe counter productive for themselves if they cut their audience in half. So as long as bw is running good for them they have no need to expand.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50595 Posts
May 09 2011 12:50 GMT
#70
umm SDM wrote that article,SDM does not like SC2.

simple as that,it has nothing to do with FOMOS or DailyEsports.
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Nazza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Australia1654 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-09 12:51:42
May 09 2011 12:50 GMT
#71
On May 09 2011 21:35 Dattish wrote:
I hope this means the powerhouses of SC1 will move on to SC2 and possibly influence other countries to start their own leagues because of popularity and the fact that the game doesn't look like pixels shooting at each other.


Look beyond the graphics man, look beyond the graphics....

Lol Reality moves on to SC2. He does a double proxy rax into hellions, into hellion drops, into viking harass, into 4 rax stim timing push....

Trust me if they wanted to move to SC2 they would have probably done so already. There are already some B-teamers who have left their teams to play SC2.
No one ever remembers second place, eh? eh? GIVE ME COMMAND
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
May 09 2011 12:50 GMT
#72
On May 09 2011 21:45 ShootingStars wrote:
Hope this means the SC1 pros will move on to SC2 soon! Times are changing, get on the with the change, and embrace it. Stop living in the past, Flash. :D

This means the exact opposite.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
Shana
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Indonesia1814 Posts
May 09 2011 12:50 GMT
#73
Hell, it's about time.

Fuck yeah BW
Believing in what lies ahead. | That which we call a rose, by any other name would smell as sweet.
Xkalibert
Profile Joined March 2010
United States1404 Posts
May 09 2011 12:51 GMT
#74
On May 09 2011 21:45 Antoine wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2011 21:42 Musou wrote:
On May 09 2011 21:28 Omegalisk wrote:
While it's great that they are finally coming to an agreement, that news article/forum post is extremely biased toward KESPA. I would like to see a more neutral announcement (maybe when the deal is actually signed).


On May 09 2011 21:30 Maliris wrote:
Hmm reading over that article again, it is incredibly biased towards kespa.. ;/
SDM doesn't exactly like SC2/blizzard either

You're not going to find a source that's less biased towards KeSPA. Fomos is by far the most Blizzard-friendly e-sports news site. DES and others are far more pro-KeSPA than Fomos, so if you're hoping to see something more neutral, you aren't going to be satisfied.

well, it also depends on the writer. if this was written by daniel lee, as i suspect it to be, he's known to be pretty strongly pro-kespa and anti-sc2

Why is Daniel Lee Anti sc2 and blizzard? what happen between him and gom?
pieman819
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia457 Posts
May 09 2011 12:51 GMT
#75
On May 09 2011 21:50 Nazza wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2011 21:35 Dattish wrote:
I hope this means the powerhouses of SC1 will move on to SC2 and possibly influence other countries to start their own leagues because of popularity and the fact that the game doesn't look like pixels shooting at each other.


Look beyond the graphics man, look beyond the graphics....

Lol Reality moves on to SC2. He does a double proxy rax into hellions, into hellion drops, into viking harass, into 4 rax stim timing push....

there would be cloaked banshee in there somewhere
Hi
thoradycus
Profile Joined August 2010
Malaysia3262 Posts
May 09 2011 12:51 GMT
#76
On May 09 2011 21:45 haylmfao wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2011 21:44 johanngrunt wrote:
How unpopular is SC2 in Korea?

Compare the amount of people clapping at GSL to what you hear in proleague streams and you'll have the answer.

It depends on the match really...if its like SKT vs OZ or something,sure its alot more. I doubt there would be full attendences at ACE vs Woongjin for example.
T0fuuu
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia2275 Posts
May 09 2011 12:51 GMT
#77
On May 09 2011 21:45 haylmfao wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2011 21:44 johanngrunt wrote:
How unpopular is SC2 in Korea?

Compare the amount of people clapping at GSL to what you hear in proleague streams and you'll have the answer.

Look at the server population in sc2 ranks and its a different story.
Musou
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
1375 Posts
May 09 2011 12:52 GMT
#78
On May 09 2011 21:45 Kipsate wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2011 21:42 Musou wrote:
On May 09 2011 21:28 Omegalisk wrote:
While it's great that they are finally coming to an agreement, that news article/forum post is extremely biased toward KESPA. I would like to see a more neutral announcement (maybe when the deal is actually signed).


On May 09 2011 21:30 Maliris wrote:
Hmm reading over that article again, it is incredibly biased towards kespa.. ;/
SDM doesn't exactly like SC2/blizzard either

You're not going to find a source that's less biased towards KeSPA. Fomos is by far the most Blizzard-friendly e-sports news site. DES and others are far more pro-KeSPA than Fomos, so if you're hoping to see something more neutral, you aren't going to be satisfied.


PlayXP is more favored towards Blizzard then Fomos tho.

PlayXP is more of a community site and less of an official news organization. While they do post news, it's generally sourced from other sites and volunteer writers rather than paid reporters.
LegendaryZ
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1583 Posts
May 09 2011 12:52 GMT
#79
On May 09 2011 21:50 Finrod1 wrote:
Would be intresting to see if kespa is trying to get into sc2. But that maybe counter productive for themselves if they cut their audience in half. So as long as bw is running good for them they have no need to expand.


OGN and MBCGame do actually have a lot of airtime that could be filled. You have to keep in mind that these are 24/7 channels and while they do have games other than BW, much of that time could easily be allocated to SC2 programming.
Hyde
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Australia14568 Posts
May 09 2011 12:52 GMT
#80
I wonder what the terms were, nonetheless this is fantastic news. such a relief this is all over and BW leagues will continue.
Because when you left, Brood War was all spotlights and titans. Now, with the death of the big leagues, Brood War has moved to the basements and carparks. Now, Brood War is unlicensed brawls, lost teeth, and bloody fights for fistfulls of money - SirJolt
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