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On April 08 2011 19:53 SkelA wrote:
This is a bad idea . If you want money for future tours just ask for donations instead of "selling replays" when they've always been free. Even both TSL released all the reppacks for free after they finished.
I wouldnt pay a dime to watch some scrubs playing on iccup when i get free vods of pros playing every week.
This
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This has embezzlement written all over it. I can see it now: "Oh, I work so hard on iCCup, there's no reason I shouldn't take a little of this money to buy a new microphone. Hell, that helps because it lets me chat on vent with other admins! Also I'm going to buy a new graphics card. There'll still be some money left over for the tournament. No harm done!"
Makes a guy yearn for the days of PGTour, when people played this game because they liked it, people hosted tourneys for this game because they thought it was exciting... And that was enough.
I can think to myself 'I might watch the ro8 or 4 of a foreign tournament just for the hell it.' That might be worth my time, it might be enjoyable. But now you want money for a zip file of totally disorganized replays. This is not going to help BW  You need to make foreign tournaments more accessible, not less accessible.
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On April 08 2011 23:30 Chef wrote:This has embezzlement written all over it. I can see it now: "Oh, I work so hard on iCCup, there's no reason I shouldn't take a little of this money to buy a new microphone. Hell, that helps because it lets me chat on vent with other admins! Also I'm going to buy a new graphics card. There'll still be some money left over for the tournament. No harm done!" Makes a guy yearn for the days of PGTour, when people played this game because they liked it, people hosted tourneys for this game because they thought it was exciting... And that was enough. I can think to myself 'I might watch the ro8 or 4 of a foreign tournament just for the hell it.' That might be worth my time, it might be enjoyable. But now you want money for a zip file of totally disorganized replays. This is not going to help BW You need to make foreign tournaments more accessible, not less accessible.
I want to point out again that none of the organisators are ICCup admins anymore, and as Cheloman already said, we're not pleased about Game's step in this either.
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my problem with it is joekim will use the money to gamble on ISL some more
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Here is a VOD of the man who wants money from you. He is co-casting with Sayle and does nothing but complain and say how bad the players are:
+ Show Spoiler +
A real pillar of the community
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i'd donate $10 for this... i need paypal i guess ?
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On April 09 2011 00:04 Chef wrote:Here is a VOD of the man who wants money from you. He is co-casting with Sayle and does nothing but complain and say how bad the players are: + Show Spoiler +http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPn1feowG-g A real pillar of the community
very 'professional' casting. Lol i wonder if someone releases the rep packs to the public, what will happen yo?
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On April 09 2011 00:10 qdenser wrote:
i'd donate $10 for this... i need paypal i guess ?
Yes.
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On April 09 2011 00:58 Game wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2011 00:10 qdenser wrote:
i'd donate $10 for this... i need paypal i guess ? Yes. To any nay-sayers... all of that negativity has already been addressed and I'm no longer going to respond to every single post that is counter productive for not only the tournament, but the BW community.
Now you're just pulling a BigT here.
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Lol wow, this is a terrible idea. With the huge decline in activity on BW this is not the way to draw more players into the game... Horrible idea.
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This has embezzlement written all over it. I can see it now: "Oh, I work so hard on iCCup, there's no reason I shouldn't take a little of this money to buy a new microphone. Hell, that helps because it lets me chat on vent with other admins! Also I'm going to buy a new graphics card. There'll still be some money left over for the tournament. No harm done!"
Assuming somehow 50 buyers pay $5 for a total of $250, then 10% ($25) split three ways is $8.33. LRM)Game would not be able to pay for his headphones. I don't see how $225 to the pot and $8 to three people is warranting a public outcry.
I can think to myself 'I might watch the ro8 or 4 of a foreign tournament just for the hell it.' That might be worth my time, it might be enjoyable. But now you want money for a zip file of totally disorganized replays. This is not going to help BW You need to make foreign tournaments more accessible, not less accessible
Foreign tournaments would be more accessible (and more successful) if there were larger cash prizes (and hence larger incentives to compete and do well.)
Here is a VOD of the man who wants money from you. He is co-casting with Sayle and does nothing but complain and say how bad the players are. A real pillar of the community.
Chef is one well practiced in forum posting (and trolling). Chef I have played SC for ten years and have often times read your posts on the sites I read teamliquid.net and staredit.net. Of the five years I AFK'd in op sen when you were a user of staredit.net, and the years I played on ICCUP, I have not seen you once online on battle.net. 6,000 forum posts serves to prove my point. Also, in fear of omnipotent ban hammer, I will not post again in this thread.
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Just need a Robin hood to buy the pack once and then release it to the masses for free.
Seriously it is cool you are trying to support your tournament, but there is a better way and that is to find a sponsor for it, can't find one, then keep on doing the tournament to prove it is worthwhile to invest into it as a sponsor..
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How do I get 10$ towards you without paypal or credit card? I have neither.
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On April 09 2011 01:30 Kralic wrote:
Just need a Robin hood to buy the pack once and then release it to the masses for free.
Seriously it is cool you are trying to support your tournament, but there is a better way and that is to find a sponsor for it, can't find one, then keep on doing the tournament to prove it is worthwhile to invest into it as a sponsor..
It is hard to find sponsors for bw when all the ESPORT money go to Sc2 ( outside of Korea of course ).
Honestly as much as i appreciate the work of Game, NoOne and Joekim, i think that all the money should go to the prize pool of the next event.
I mean i think it will be really hard to get more than 500$ anyway.
So 500 x (1/10) = 50
25$ for Joekim and 25$ for NoOne ? This is kinda ridiculous =/
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On April 08 2011 19:46 Sayle wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2011 19:18 Sawamura wrote:
Does sayle gets the 10 % too ? I guess he should after all isl without him commentating makes it not an isl . In the original version of the OP, Game included me along with nOoNe and JoeKim as recipients of the 10%. I asked to be taken out because I'm also somewhat uncomfortable with the idea of selling replays. I also don't really need the money, so I'd rather it go towards another awesome tournament anyway 
Wow, Sayle is the man.
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On April 08 2011 23:30 Chef wrote:
This has embezzlement written all over it.
Just publicize the buyers' names and it's ok. I don't know why the buyers themselves would want it otherwise, after all they support the BW community with this move and should be proud of it.
As for the initiative I think it's ok, but I think there should be more emphasis on "donation" less on "sales". As seen above, it confuses people. Although I think most of them are just jumping the bandwagon.
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On April 09 2011 03:03 RHCPgergo wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2011 23:30 Chef wrote:
This has embezzlement written all over it. Just publicize the buyers' names and it's ok. I don't know why the buyers themselves would want it otherwise, after all they support the BW community with this move and should be proud of it. As for the initiative I think it's ok, but I think there should be more emphasis on "donation" less on "sales". As seen above, it confuses people. Although I think most of them are just jumping the bandwagon.
i'd imaginge i buy the reppack from game and he puts my name in the OP and i get instantly over 9000 pms.
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People need to read and think before they post. All I'm going to say, I can tell over half the haters have not read anything but the title.
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On April 09 2011 03:03 RHCPgergo wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2011 23:30 Chef wrote:
This has embezzlement written all over it. Just publicize the buyers' names and it's ok. I don't know why the buyers themselves would want it otherwise, after all they support the BW community with this move and should be proud of it.
I was pointing out how it's suspicious that he goes out of his way to say buyers are anonymous -.-
Chef is one well practiced in forum posting (and trolling). Chef I have played SC for ten years and have often times read your posts on the sites I read teamliquid.net and staredit.net. Of the five years I AFK'd in op sen when you were a user of staredit.net, and the years I played on ICCUP, I have not seen you once online on battle.net. 6,000 forum posts serves to prove my point. Also, in fear of omnipotent ban hammer, I will not post again in this thread.
Are you a stalker? You've never seen me on B.net maybe because I don't know who the hell you are? Are you that guy that took a bunch of Pro Maps and claimed he made them? That was hilarious.
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I've seen chef on bnet o.O
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