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pOlt.
Profile Joined October 2008
Russian Federation42 Posts
April 08 2011 06:27 GMT
#21
well i see it like the main point of it is that
90% of the proceeds from the replay sales will be put into the prizepool of another, much larger tournament

and replays itself are kind of "bonus" for your support. (anyway as far as i remeber the majority of TSL replays wasn't released so this sale thing somehow could be better way)
5unrise
Profile Joined May 2009
New Zealand646 Posts
April 08 2011 06:50 GMT
#22
I think there's nothing wrong in this. You want to support ISL, you get a huge replay pack as a bonus. They can just not release the replays, at least there's an option of paying for them. If you don't want to support the ISL, or if you don't think it's worth your money, then don't buy it. That's how I see it.
dRaW
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada5744 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-08 07:41:30
April 08 2011 07:40 GMT
#23
On April 08 2011 10:54 Game wrote:
I thought long and hard about the prices, and they are very fair. It's a new concept since replays have always been free. But after SC2's release, good replays became very hard to come by. I think that is also advantageous, as I have watched many ladder replays packs and have been very impressed (specifically why I picked Ramms to win ISL).


I heard it was more than it is, I didn't know it was only 5$ for the reps. Furthermore, agree with guy above me
I don't need luck, luck is for noobs, good luck to you though
)Messer(
Profile Joined March 2011
Poland95 Posts
April 08 2011 07:52 GMT
#24
On April 08 2011 12:38 xxpack09 wrote:
Why are people complaining about this?

If you don't want to pay for them... then don't pay for them....

And let the people that want them buy them


Correct, everyone has right to be as stupid as he want
thx bye
roman012
Profile Joined February 2011
Bulgaria36 Posts
April 08 2011 07:59 GMT
#25
I guess were gonna have some info about this larger tournament after ISL finishes?
L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
April 08 2011 08:11 GMT
#26
I have no problems with this. If you don't want them, don't pay. Especially since almost all of the money goes back to support yet another awesome tournament I personally think this is a good idea.

That and $5 is pretty much dirt cheap anyway, especially getting hundreds or thousands of reps for a great cause.
EffOrt and Soulkey Hwaiting!
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-08 08:28:15
April 08 2011 08:26 GMT
#27
On April 08 2011 12:24 GGzerG wrote:
Dude come on man, how do you expect the BW community to re flourish when you are trying to sell replays of ISL...I'm sorry but this just sounds absolutely ridiculous. It's easier to get high level pro / semi pro gamer replays than it is to get ISL replays of top foreigners for money, Just seems like that makes no sense.



Its not about the replays at all, its just about making a donation to the Brood War comunity and in exchange Game will hand over the replays. I mean everyone likes to see cash tourneys organized and invested in by big doners, but these are hard to find(I'd assume) so if everyone pitches in a lil bit, its no hastle for the individual really, its pocket change, yet you can help create, you can give back to the community. If you're ignorant enough to think that Game is doing this for personnal benefit after having pulled off such a successful well organized tour then just don't donate the funds and certainly don't post. I mean yes, a donation system would maybe look a little better on the cover, but who are we kidding, ppl will look at it and say "pay" or "free". So yeah. Its better to have a little less of a cover image if the intentions are right imo.

On April 08 2011 16:52 ICCUP.Messer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2011 12:38 xxpack09 wrote:
Why are people complaining about this?

If you don't want to pay for them... then don't pay for them....

And let the people that want them buy them


Correct, everyone has right to be as stupid as he want


Umm Why would you even bother posting a comment like this?
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
LG)cheloman
Profile Joined June 2004
Argentina159 Posts
April 08 2011 09:12 GMT
#28
Iccup is not supporting this idea, and none of our staff are involved with this organization at this moment.
Game
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3191 Posts
April 08 2011 09:21 GMT
#29
On April 08 2011 18:12 LG)cheloman wrote:
Iccup is not supporting this idea, and none of our staff are involved with this organization at this moment.


If you read the OP you would see that.
SC is like sex. You should play often, but never too hard. And you should only try hard when it matters.
2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9540 Posts
April 08 2011 09:29 GMT
#30
On April 08 2011 17:26 Eywa- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2011 12:24 GGzerG wrote:
Dude come on man, how do you expect the BW community to re flourish when you are trying to sell replays of ISL...I'm sorry but this just sounds absolutely ridiculous. It's easier to get high level pro / semi pro gamer replays than it is to get ISL replays of top foreigners for money, Just seems like that makes no sense.



Its not about the replays at all, its just about making a donation to the Brood War comunity and in exchange Game will hand over the replays. I mean everyone likes to see cash tourneys organized and invested in by big doners, but these are hard to find(I'd assume) so if everyone pitches in a lil bit, its no hastle for the individual really, its pocket change, yet you can help create, you can give back to the community. If you're ignorant enough to think that Game is doing this for personnal benefit after having pulled off such a successful well organized tour then just don't donate the funds and certainly don't post. I mean yes, a donation system would maybe look a little better on the cover, but who are we kidding, ppl will look at it and say "pay" or "free". So yeah. Its better to have a little less of a cover image if the intentions are right imo.

I agree with you, but I don't agree with the way Game brought up this in the first place. People see words "replay sales" and they don't even read the rest of the thread to form their opinion (I know I didn't).
Instead of putting so much emphasis on replay sales, he should've made this thread more about donations for next bigger and better BW tourneys and as a thank you for your donation, you get a replay pack as a bonus.
Because in the end, this is exactly that, a donation for the next BW tourney, but this ambiguity is confusing people. I'd much rather donate money for a BW tourney, instead of buying replays to help.
Moderator"We're a community of geniuses because we've found how to extract 95% of the feeling of doing something amazing without actually doing anything." - Chill
LG)cheloman
Profile Joined June 2004
Argentina159 Posts
April 08 2011 09:29 GMT
#31
Im talking as iccup official voice.
Game
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3191 Posts
April 08 2011 09:34 GMT
#32
cheloman, what in God's name does that have to do with reading the OP?
P.S 2pac I agree, but it's specific to a target audience who would be interested. It surely turns off those with the same view as you, but there will be a time for all things monetary to be presented for this next tournament and this just happens to be the right thing for this part.
SC is like sex. You should play often, but never too hard. And you should only try hard when it matters.
Kittyness
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada72 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-08 09:42:51
April 08 2011 09:42 GMT
#33
So say I buy these reps, what guarantee do I have that the players won't just release them themselves? The 10% that isn't going to the next tournament who is it paying and why? How can this even be legal?

Why not just have a donation page? I personally would be more likely to donate that way. This whole thing seems distasteful or something even though its probably not meant to be.
Game
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3191 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-08 09:55:35
April 08 2011 09:54 GMT
#34
On April 08 2011 18:42 Kittyness wrote:
So say I buy these reps, what guarantee do I have that the players won't just release them themselves? The 10% that isn't going to the next tournament who is it paying and why? How can this even be legal?

Why not just have a donation page? I personally would be more likely to donate that way. This whole thing seems distasteful or something even though its probably not meant to be.


So say I buy these reps, what guarantee do I have that the players won't just release them themselves?
A: I'd imagine the majority of them all knowing this concept exists wouldn't be spiteful enough to ruin it. Just as well, it takes a lot of effort.
The 10% that isn't going to the next tournament who is it paying and why?
A: The help of the tournament (minus me), specifically nOoNe and JoeKim who have put countless hours into the tournament.

P.S. all donations are welcome.
SC is like sex. You should play often, but never too hard. And you should only try hard when it matters.
Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
April 08 2011 10:18 GMT
#35
Does sayle gets the 10 % too ? I guess he should after all isl without him commentating makes it not an isl .
BW/KT Forever R.I.P KT.Violet dearly missed ..
2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9540 Posts
April 08 2011 10:23 GMT
#36
On April 08 2011 19:18 Sawamura wrote:
Does sayle gets the 10 % too ? I guess he should after all isl without him commentating makes it not an isl .

Yeah, ISL without Sayle is just.... IL.
Moderator"We're a community of geniuses because we've found how to extract 95% of the feeling of doing something amazing without actually doing anything." - Chill
JoeKim
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States608 Posts
April 08 2011 10:30 GMT
#37
On April 08 2011 19:23 2Pacalypse- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2011 19:18 Sawamura wrote:
Does sayle gets the 10 % too ? I guess he should after all isl without him commentating makes it not an isl .

Yeah, ISL without Sayle is just.... IL.


hahaha
Sayle
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom3685 Posts
April 08 2011 10:46 GMT
#38
On April 08 2011 19:18 Sawamura wrote:
Does sayle gets the 10 % too ? I guess he should after all isl without him commentating makes it not an isl .


In the original version of the OP, Game included me along with nOoNe and JoeKim as recipients of the 10%. I asked to be taken out because I'm also somewhat uncomfortable with the idea of selling replays. I also don't really need the money, so I'd rather it go towards another awesome tournament anyway
SkelA
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Macedonia13081 Posts
April 08 2011 10:53 GMT
#39
This is a bad idea . If you want money for future tours just ask for donations instead of "selling replays" when they've always been free. Even both TSL released all the reppacks for free after they finished.

I wouldnt pay a dime to watch some scrubs playing on iccup when i get free vods of pros playing every week.
Stork and KHAN fan till 2012 ...
roman012
Profile Joined February 2011
Bulgaria36 Posts
April 08 2011 11:14 GMT
#40
On April 08 2011 19:53 SkelA wrote:
This is a bad idea . If you want money for future tours just ask for donations instead of "selling replays" when they've always been free. Even both TSL released all the reppacks for free after they finished.

I wouldnt pay a dime to watch some scrubs playing on iccup when i get free vods of pros playing every week.


I agree with this man.

Anyhow anyone could post his reppack in public (like me - tho nobody cares about my games)
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