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intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
January 27 2011 00:29 GMT
#61
I read it, Fenrax. Anyway moopie, you've got a point. However it's still pretty clear that Stork's been carrying the team on his shoulders and new at it. I mean, JD and FlaSh have been doing it for a while.
kiss kiss fall in love
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-27 00:31:37
January 27 2011 00:30 GMT
#62
I love all of the people saying it's consistent for January to bench her star players to rotate in the young guns or has beens to try to get them in form.

The thing is, you are absolutely right! For the past 2 proleague seasons January has been trying to develop her younger players at the expense of games for the previous Jangbi/stork/fbh trio -- this most notably worked with great who no one knew ANYTHING about.

But guess what isn't consistent? Stork wasn't at the PL game at ALL. Whenever January was rotating her players, her older stars always showed up for matches -- whether it be to cheer on the younger players, or just give the threat of her stars coming in or whatever. This was not January doing her typical thing. This was January letting Stork stay back at the house to practice. This is something that HAS NOT happened before -- even when Stork didn't play, he was still on the bench. It's insane to think this isn't about practicing for individual leagues with this offtime.

Stork was hypocritical. It's funny and maybe he shouldn't be so quick to judge someone who's having a more difficult time than him in the future. Leave it at that. I'm absolutely sure Flash and Stork are still great friends so there's no reason us fans should bicker. Feel the love you angry jerks.
Remember Violet.
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
January 27 2011 00:47 GMT
#63
thank you for the article... im rooting for stork this season... he has the big chance of winning both MSL and OSL this season :D
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
Renkaoru
Profile Joined October 2010
390 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-27 00:55:00
January 27 2011 00:53 GMT
#64
What Stork did was not right at that moment, that's for sure. He couldn't have predicted it would come back to haunt him one year later. But, it was only him being honest about what he feels when he said he prepared for and wanted to face Flash, and prove that he is not unbeatable like other people think. It's for that honesty and personality that I like him (I'm thinking this is true for alot of Stork fans out there). Some of you might bash Stork for this, but that opinion is what differentiates Stork's fanboys and his haters.

If Stork said sorry to Flash (after winning dual golds keke), he'd be the greatest baller in all of the Korean BW proscene.

Edit: Thanks to OpticalShot for the very enlightening opening post. This clears up what was mostly e-shit in the other (now closed) thread.
God is in His heaven. All is right with the world.
Lebesgue
Profile Joined October 2008
4542 Posts
January 27 2011 01:30 GMT
#65
I perfectly fine with Stork staying at house practicing for the individual leagues. And I don't care whose decision it was.

But Stork was talking out of his ass in that interview when he commented about Flash. Nothing changes it.

I am still Stork fan and I hope he will win OSL. But he should have never said those words... Anyway, that whole thing, as usual, has been blown out of proportion. I bet neither Flash or Stork care about it
Ryusei-R1
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States2106 Posts
January 27 2011 02:23 GMT
#66
If Stork is able to win the OSL after going through quite a lot of trauma, he will be like a phoenix reborn from the ashes of himself.

A new style of PvT will be born (Corsairs anyone?) and Stork will become the new standard of PvT.
Jaedong plz
anch
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States5457 Posts
January 27 2011 03:02 GMT
#67
On January 27 2011 11:23 Ryusei-R1 wrote:
If Stork is able to win the OSL after going through quite a lot of trauma, he will be like a phoenix reborn from the ashes of himself.

A new style of PvT will be born (Corsairs anyone?) and Stork will become the new standard of PvT.

Nal_ra did a Sairs into Carriers build, it was garbage.
Harem
Profile Joined November 2007
United States11393 Posts
January 27 2011 03:09 GMT
#68
On January 27 2011 11:23 Ryusei-R1 wrote:
If Stork is able to win the OSL after going through quite a lot of trauma, he will be like a phoenix reborn from the ashes of himself.

A new style of PvT will be born (Corsairs anyone?) and Stork will become the new standard of PvT.

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Tipany
Profile Joined November 2010
United States368 Posts
January 27 2011 03:32 GMT
#69
Loooooooooooool so much hate coming from the KT/Flash fans.

I'm sorry to say this but a lot of people seem to be butthurt over something terribly trivial. I really do understand that Stork's words from last year are pretty harsh, and unnecessary, but why does it have to result in hatred? It's good to be engrossed in e-sports and the players but some comments take it too far.
wat.
DarkMatter_
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada1774 Posts
January 27 2011 04:50 GMT
#70
Stork is a pompous idiot. Regardless of him playing yesterday's game or not, his comment was completely unjustified in the first place. Flash is one of the hardest working progamers and he carried his crappy team to a proleague championship. What was Stork doing during that period? Failing in individual leagues and being horribly inconsistent in proleague.
_awake_
Profile Joined August 2007
196 Posts
January 27 2011 05:14 GMT
#71
nice to see that there are some good flash fans who understand the situation. some people here are seriously blowing matters way out of proportion.

i don't recall such hatred against flash when he arrogantly talked down ssak only to be knocked out by him the next day. stork and flash, among other progamers, have said stuff they have later come to regret. they do not deserve such treatment from the fans.

i always wondered why most progamers give us safe and boring interview answers. now i realize it's because of people like some posters here, waiting to attack them with their ow words at every opportunity.
Funnytoss
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Taiwan1471 Posts
January 27 2011 10:47 GMT
#72
If the interviews are boring, we complain. If they're a bit BM, we complain anyway -_-

I mean, I do think that was a jackass thing for Stork to say, but I'm still glad he said it, if that's what he really felt. Was he wrong? Sure, and he's eating crow for it now. That's just how life works. We're making something from nothing here.
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Armathai
Profile Joined October 2007
1023 Posts
January 27 2011 16:22 GMT
#73
Too much caring about this incident.
Yes Stork was probably practicing for the individual leagues, although tbh I think Jangbi prolly is right that he was just watching his teammates on tv instead. January did do this to let Stork practice, and whats wrong with helping out her Ace player when he's under a huge time/practice crunch and has personal trouble on top of all that.
Stork and Flash are friends, one public interview a year ago isn't going to change shit, they know its for the public.

Looking for ArcticCerebrate formerly from @USEast
okum
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
France5778 Posts
January 27 2011 17:05 GMT
#74
On January 27 2011 12:32 TheJoyBringer wrote:
Loooooooooooool so much hate coming from the KT/Flash fans.
All true Flash fans are Stork fans.

That doesn't exclude thinking that something Stork said or did at some point was pretty dumb.
Flash fan before it was cool | Coiner of "jangbang"
hauton
Profile Joined March 2009
Hong Kong743 Posts
January 27 2011 17:13 GMT
#75
Sorry, this entire thread reeks of the TeamStorkquid fanboy mentality that's pervasive throughout this entire site. I don't hate Stork (I'm entirely ambivalent tbh), and I really couldn't care less what he said over a year ago, but the lengths to which you guys are going to defend his honour is getting silly.

If you're going to lock the original Milkis thread calling Stork out, then you should probably still provide the context of Stork's original words, rather than dismissing all of it as a trollbait thread. I mean, if all it is is trollbait, then why even dignify it with a response thread? Why not put Stork's words up alongside your rebuttal? I had to personally dig to find what the hell you guys were talking about in the first place. This is some kind of pseudo-whitewashing, insofar that you disagree with his point but you're not going to let us hear what it was in the first place. If you want to be objective, provide both sides.

That aside, the fact that nobody gave Flash the benefit of the doubt last year is laughable in comparison with the multitude of excuses that people are making up via conjecture for Stork. Do we know that Flash asked to be benched that game? Obviously Stork's coach and teammates are going to rush to his defense - what value can be prescribed to those statements, especially considering they were made after the uproar his no-show caused?

What we can take at face value is exactly what he said last year. If he really did want to play, he certainly didn't make it known. Stork's not exactly a shy guy. He has avenues of communicating to his fans. If he believes now what he believed so vehemently a year ago - he could easily inform people that he didn't have a choice in the matter. Straight from the horse's mouth, not teammates and coaches defending him. Of course, he's lost that opportunity now, given how long it's been and how much controversy has been caused.

All in all, this is petty, really petty, for all sides - Stork included, for making those statements in the first place.
keep it up, youll either be famous or homeless one day
mierin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4943 Posts
January 27 2011 17:19 GMT
#76
TeamStorkquid...that might be the funniest thing I've read all day.
JD, Stork, Calm, Hyuk Fighting!
OpticalShot
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada6330 Posts
January 27 2011 23:50 GMT
#77
On January 28 2011 02:13 hauton wrote:
Sorry, this entire thread reeks of the TeamStorkquid fanboy mentality that's pervasive throughout this entire site. I don't hate Stork (I'm entirely ambivalent tbh), and I really couldn't care less what he said over a year ago, but the lengths to which you guys are going to defend his honour is getting silly.

If you're going to lock the original Milkis thread calling Stork out, then you should probably still provide the context of Stork's original words, rather than dismissing all of it as a trollbait thread. I mean, if all it is is trollbait, then why even dignify it with a response thread? Why not put Stork's words up alongside your rebuttal? I had to personally dig to find what the hell you guys were talking about in the first place. This is some kind of pseudo-whitewashing, insofar that you disagree with his point but you're not going to let us hear what it was in the first place. If you want to be objective, provide both sides.

That aside, the fact that nobody gave Flash the benefit of the doubt last year is laughable in comparison with the multitude of excuses that people are making up via conjecture for Stork. Do we know that Flash asked to be benched that game? Obviously Stork's coach and teammates are going to rush to his defense - what value can be prescribed to those statements, especially considering they were made after the uproar his no-show caused?

What we can take at face value is exactly what he said last year. If he really did want to play, he certainly didn't make it known. Stork's not exactly a shy guy. He has avenues of communicating to his fans. If he believes now what he believed so vehemently a year ago - he could easily inform people that he didn't have a choice in the matter. Straight from the horse's mouth, not teammates and coaches defending him. Of course, he's lost that opportunity now, given how long it's been and how much controversy has been caused.

All in all, this is petty, really petty, for all sides - Stork included, for making those statements in the first place.

I was going to let this thread go, but I won't allow such replies pass without justifications.
1) I did not lock the original Milkis thread, it was a TL mod's decision to do so. I'm a translator, not a mod. I did my part in providing context by including the link to the thread in the first place. Hmmm, on two threads on the same incident, why would his be locked and mine still up? Perhaps I provided a more comprehensive picture?
2) I'm not going to bother replying to every single speculations you've made, but I wonder, why do people on TL bother reading translated interviews? Since some of you are such awesome psychics, suppose you can read every single progamer's minds from halfway around the globe with next to no context. Good job.
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Piste
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
6183 Posts
January 28 2011 08:42 GMT
#78
So why didnt he come to see match on a bench?

- Coach January of Samsung Khan said that "Stork's schedule these days are incredibly packed, so as a team, we decided to do him a favour. Right now, Stork is practising for his individual league matches."

yeah that's right. he lacked confidence and stayed practising.
Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
January 28 2011 09:19 GMT
#79
He certainly must have been lacking confidence considering + Show Spoiler [MSL] +
how badly he lost to Zero.

It may or may not be seen in the OSL finals. Certainly there was a good reason to leave him behind, but he shouldn't have said anything if he would have to take it back later. I'm curious to see what Stork says next time he's interviewed, he probably got a lot more shit from Korean fans than he would if we could contact him.
If you are not Bisu, chances are I hate you.
LuckyMacro
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1482 Posts
January 28 2011 10:09 GMT
#80
Not a huge deal...really.
around 15 years ago i said mushrooms were the most disgusting pieces of shit in the world.
now I eat them...ok...?
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