EPTiloveoov...most dominant of all time? - Page 8
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meegrean
Thailand7699 Posts
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Dingotrold
Denmark622 Posts
On January 14 2011 16:36 GG_NO_RE wrote: trolling? please learn the difference between dominant and influential I was trolling... Thought the last sentence would give away my intentions. There is a point to be made though, in terms of understanding why any comparison will never be definite. | ||
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PH
United States6173 Posts
On January 13 2011 23:23 oBlade wrote: iloveoov ultimately took the H.O.T-Forever route of team welfare > selfish individual attempts at stardom. Also, he got married. But I'd agree with Holgerius, how can you look at sAviOr's measly run and ignore Flash? A whole host of Zergs were ZvP gods. He didn't get married until like a year and a half ago, which was far before he fell off the radar. | ||
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moopie
12605 Posts
On January 13 2011 23:23 oBlade wrote: iloveoov ultimately took the H.O.T-Forever route of team welfare > selfish individual attempts at stardom. ultimately he became a coach because the alternative was just retiring after his wrist injury. He didn't really have too many attempts left at stardom so this wasn't about being selfish/non-selfish. | ||
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Mindcrime
United States6899 Posts
On January 14 2011 16:26 weiliem wrote: Y nobody seems to  Remember  July's existence in Oov's domination period, and where July 3-0ed Oov in 1 of the finals during Oov's domination.....That might be because that never happened. July beat him 3-1 in the ITV finals, but that was after what I consider to be Oov's period of invincibility. | ||
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rift
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Flash 2443iloveoov 2355 (-88)NaDa 2326 (-29)sAviOr 2326 | ||
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Sqq
Norway2023 Posts
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nayumi
Australia6499 Posts
everyone was like who the fuck is this guy and bam ... boxer cried ... its like force and pressure ... oov might have a less significant force, but it was applied over a smaller area (i.e period of time) -> the pressure felt is greater ... whereas every knows flash has been great all along and it comes to little surprised that he dominated the scene when there was literally only jaedong who had a shot at taking him down ... (bisu and stork slumped hard core) ... in short, flash was consistently good, and eventually became god while oov ate banana and bagged 5 golds ... | ||
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BatTheMan
Canada759 Posts
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Papvin
Denmark610 Posts
Of course watching him play (whenever I didn't blindly rage "omg tvz imba ffs!!!") was beautiful, such brilliance and technical mastery have never been seen before, and probably never will. Oov was good (understatement, I know), but Flash is imo, the best a bw player will ever be. Noone can top that monster! | ||
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GolemMadness
Canada11044 Posts
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KinosJourney2
Sweden1811 Posts
On January 13 2011 23:18 Holgerius wrote: I think Flash's 2010 is more ridculous. Flash's '10 run is enough for me to call him one of the best and most dominant players. If just he wouldn't have lost to fucking EffOrt i would actually call him the best  | ||
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mdb
Bulgaria4059 Posts
You never know what is going to happen when flash plays jd. | ||
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Ilikestarcraft
Korea (South)17743 Posts
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J1.au
Australia3596 Posts
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Wolf
Korea (South)3290 Posts
There's even another iloveoov thread on the first page;; | ||
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mdb
Bulgaria4059 Posts
On January 14 2011 19:40 J1.au wrote: I keep hearing that iloveoov more dominant than Flash because of the way he won. Supposedly he made his opponents "look bad". If all iloveoov was doing during his prime was rolling over people with ease then he should have better results to show for it. The fact remains that iloveoov was regularly dropping individual leagues in his prime. He was getting knocked out of one individual league a season by other players. He obviously didn't make those players "look bad", nor he did he "dominate" them. Why are you are arguing about something, which apparantly you cant comprehend? He made players look bad and he dominated everyone. Of course he didnt have 100% win record lol. Dominant is not equal to "the best". | ||
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clayn
Germany444 Posts
On January 13 2011 23:18 Holgerius wrote: I think Flash's 2010 is more ridculous. ### Flash is the beast! | ||
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mnesthes
5433 Posts
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oBlade
United States6256 Posts
On January 14 2011 18:06 Sqq wrote: For me he is the most dominant player of all time. When he played he went 5-0 in major tournament finals, he also did it in a shorter span than anyone. His periode of dominance is by far the best. On January 14 2011 18:08 nayumi wrote: the thing is oov went from battle.net to osl winner just like that everyone was like who the fuck is this guy and bam ... boxer cried ... its like force and pressure ... oov might have a less significant force, but it was applied over a smaller area (i.e period of time) -> the pressure felt is greater ... whereas every knows flash has been great all along and it comes to little surprised that he dominated the scene when there was literally only jaedong who had a shot at taking him down ... (bisu and stork slumped hard core) ... in short, flash was consistently good, and eventually became god while oov ate banana and bagged 5 golds ... Between the Trigem MSL and EVER 2004 OSL, iloveoov won a league every season. This is over a period of about 14 months. During this time, he appeared in four finals and got four golds. He never made two finals (I say two instead of both/dual because back then there were some GhemTV leagues and other stuff) in one season. On the other hand, between EVER 2009 and Korean Air S2, over a period of 12 months (this is important because it was 3 seasons, shorter than iloveoov's 4 seasons), Flash appeared in six finals. He appeared in *all* finals. He made dual finals three seasons in a row. In that shorter time he matched iloveoov's achievement of 4 golds and on top of that got two silvers. While Flash got his 4 golds faster than iloveoov's 4 golds, iloveoov got his 5th gold quicker than Flash. He won Shinhan OSL over July about a year after EVER. But Flash won Bacchus like 1.6 years before his streak. Don't forget back then Shinhan wasn't sponsoring the PL forever. Individual leagues still held more prestige. I can't really fit this into the analysis because it means that other players would be focused more on individual leagues, meaning iloveoov's lack of dual leaguing is more excusable. But it also means that you have to give another point to Flash for crushing the PL on top of 6 finals and WCG. | ||
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