On September 27 2004 22:25 User_2 wrote:
Noone gives a shit. He's a better player than most of us. The end.
Noone gives a shit. He's a better player than most of us. The end.
gg
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juSblazin
United States691 Posts
On September 27 2004 22:25 User_2 wrote: Noone gives a shit. He's a better player than most of us. The end. gg | ||
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RedAreStupid.
Sweden476 Posts
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mensrea
Canada5062 Posts
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Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
On September 28 2004 14:37 Abyss_Bahamut wrote: Show nested quote + On September 28 2004 14:35 Gryffindor_us wrote: Their manager is abusive, but I guess when you're a whore for money it doesn't matter :D. NaDa was in IS when it collapsed, that was during Panasonic OGN. Then he joined KTF with Yellow and they stayed until January 2003, and left together to Toona SG. Then Yellow left and went back to KTF. What is this IS you speak of? I think I know it by another name. I started hating Nada after he started becoming good and the major turning point is when he embarassed Boxer at the 1st KT-KTF finals. There are other reasons though. IS = Ideal Space I think they are now known as Plus :o Oh and boxer played pretty bad in those series -.- Seriously the last game in the series... | ||
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SpiriT-DemoN-
United States684 Posts
don't think we'll ever see the old limyh again ![]() | ||
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Gryffindor_us
United States5606 Posts
On September 28 2004 15:09 FrozenArbiter wrote: Show nested quote + On September 28 2004 14:37 Abyss_Bahamut wrote: On September 28 2004 14:35 Gryffindor_us wrote: Their manager is abusive, but I guess when you're a whore for money it doesn't matter :D. NaDa was in IS when it collapsed, that was during Panasonic OGN. Then he joined KTF with Yellow and they stayed until January 2003, and left together to Toona SG. Then Yellow left and went back to KTF. What is this IS you speak of? I think I know it by another name. I started hating Nada after he started becoming good and the major turning point is when he embarassed Boxer at the 1st KT-KTF finals. There are other reasons though. IS = Ideal Space I think they are now known as Plus :o Oh and boxer played pretty bad in those series -.- Seriously the last game in the series... Or NaDa just played like he usually does, and ran circles around Boxer. Yeah IS was Ideal Space and I didn't know they were Plus lol. IS had Boxer, NaDa, Yellow and Rainbow or at least that's all of the people I remember. **Also: What other reasons? | ||
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Cambium
United States16368 Posts
On September 28 2004 15:14 SpiriT-DemoN- wrote: i get the feeling BoxeR isn't as committed to being the best gamer as he once was.. don't think we'll ever see the old limyh again ![]() I think other players are getting better, and boxer simply isn't improving fast enough. | ||
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Make7UpYours
893 Posts
On November 14 2002 06:18 mensrea wrote: Mumyung's established himself as a regular in OGN Starleagues and his skills have improved even more since joining the IS ("Ideal Space") pro team. He's a mean Zerg capable of beating anyone, anytime - ChRh and Yellow are on the long list of lambs who have been on Mumyung's sacrificial altar. Also, Bifrost (Neo or not) is a Zerg map, as any HOT fan will tell ya. It seems mensrea didn' t always hate MuMyung... | ||
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bigMommA
1985 Posts
On September 28 2004 15:41 Cambium wrote: Show nested quote + On September 28 2004 15:14 SpiriT-DemoN- wrote: i get the feeling BoxeR isn't as committed to being the best gamer as he once was.. don't think we'll ever see the old limyh again ![]() I think other players are getting better, and boxer simply isn't improving fast enough. Boxer's style just isn't efficient enough these days. Time has catch up to him, you're right: the skill levels now are much higher than it is 2-3 years ago. Here's one of Boxer's major flaw: He uses the damn arrow keys. If you watch that multi-angle VOD of him, you can see that he takes his left hand off and bring it all the way across to the arrow keys just to move his screen. That's about 1 to 1.5 seconds wasted every time he moves his hand back and forth. This is so inefficient, and the majority of players that can play at the same multi-task speed as him can most of the time beat him. | ||
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worst.player
625 Posts
He also picked ZergLee and Rainbow (if i'm not mistaken), and they're decent progamers, nothing amazing. I still have faith in Boxer's judgement of players. At least for TerAto.. | ||
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Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
On September 28 2004 15:19 Gryffindor_us wrote: Show nested quote + On September 28 2004 15:09 FrozenArbiter wrote: On September 28 2004 14:37 Abyss_Bahamut wrote: On September 28 2004 14:35 Gryffindor_us wrote: Their manager is abusive, but I guess when you're a whore for money it doesn't matter :D. NaDa was in IS when it collapsed, that was during Panasonic OGN. Then he joined KTF with Yellow and they stayed until January 2003, and left together to Toona SG. Then Yellow left and went back to KTF. What is this IS you speak of? I think I know it by another name. I started hating Nada after he started becoming good and the major turning point is when he embarassed Boxer at the 1st KT-KTF finals. There are other reasons though. IS = Ideal Space I think they are now known as Plus :o Oh and boxer played pretty bad in those series -.- Seriously the last game in the series... Or NaDa just played like he usually does, and ran circles around Boxer. Yeah IS was Ideal Space and I didn't know they were Plus lol. IS had Boxer, NaDa, Yellow and Rainbow or at least that's all of the people I remember. **Also: What other reasons? Hehe well considering nada and boxer are like 17-15 or something all time TV games.. "As usual" is a bit harsh ![]() Boxer threw the last game away so bad -.- | ||
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Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
On September 28 2004 15:53 worst.player wrote: BoxeR picked oov, and oov became a monster. He also picked ZergLee and Rainbow (if i'm not mistaken), and they're decent progamers, nothing amazing. I still have faith in Boxer's judgement of players. At least for TerAto.. Boxer picked kingdom (kingdom was already good though), kingdom won a starleague and became one of the best tosses. Boxer picked kos, kos qualified for a starleague (nada and boxer used to say kos had the best metal in the world). Kos has made it into 2 starleagues, he got fucking INSANE groups both times.. Like one time was Xellos, Zeus, Kos and someone, and the first time he had to play yellow and another couple of good players O_O | ||
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bigMommA
1985 Posts
zerglee is the shittiest pro-gamer. btw, Boxer also picked up Hiroko(Z). I highly doubt Mumyung will turn out to be a good player. Boxer has a tendency to pick up some of the worst zerg players around like Zerglee, Hiroko, and Sudaboy. Although Hiroko and Sudaboy are amateurs, there were still better choices for him like zergman and ipxzerg. | ||
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Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
On September 28 2004 15:59 bigMommA wrote: kos is in the tier of doggi and mumyung. zerglee is the shittiest pro-gamer. btw, Boxer also picked up Hiroko(Z). I highly doubt Mumyung will turn out to be a good player. Boxer has a tendency to pick up some of the worst zerg players around like Zerglee, Hiroko, and Sudaboy. Although Hiroko and Sudaboy are amateurs, there were still better choices for him like zergman and ipxzerg. -- Hiroko is zerglee. Kos is WAY above doggi. No.7 (7th ranked zerg) Seong Hak Seung 2990 296 Games 150 Wins 146 Losses 50.7 % (MUMYUNG) No.14 Kim Hyeon Jin 2061 209 Games 102 Wins 107 Losses 48.8 % (KOS) No.16 Choi Su Beom 1933 203 Games 96 Wins 107 Losses 47.3 % (Doggi) Now, doggi has been around TWICE as long as kos and as far as I know his biggest accomplishment is WCG 2001 and a starleague.. Kos has been in 2 starleagues, a KPGA where he did good iirc and a winners championship I think (beating yellow, no wait - dominating yellow IIRC) | ||
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Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
When boxer picked out OOv, oov had done NOTHING beyond 2000 gamei with all races.. NOTHING. | ||
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bigMommA
1985 Posts
Hiroko's at far right, Zerglee's on top of him ![]() Hiroko's at top left, Zerglee's at bottom right ![]() IIRC, Sudayboy joined Boxer's team awhile, when they still have all those frantic name changes. Hadn't heard much of Sudayboy in any minor/challenge leagues, only in prelims. btw, Boxer picking up oov was still impressive, but what i said was he has a tendency to pick up shitty Zerg players, not terran. also, I'm surprise that's some really close ratios of Doggi and Kos. "No.14 Kim Hyeon Jin 2061 209 Games 102 Wins 107 Losses 48.8 % (KOS) No.16 Choi Su Beom 1933 203 Games 96 Wins 107 Losses 47.3 % (Doggi)" I figure Kos has probably been around as long as Doggi since Kos was in IS also Don't know the exact date but quite sure IS has been for the longest time since Boxer's establishment of his own team rise through that. IS was made up of Boxer, Yellow, sir@soni, combl, kos, rainbow, salmosa, etc.., something like that. | ||
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Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
Well I'd say his latest zerg pickings have been rather good sudaboy and rumble SOME GOOD :O Mumyung EXPERIENCED :O And he IS good. | ||
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Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
This is his ZvZ stats :D He's ranked above Gorush :O His ZvT and ZvP ~ 44% and 43% respectively :/ | ||
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OhThatDang
United States4685 Posts
On September 28 2004 14:37 Abyss_Bahamut wrote: Show nested quote + On September 28 2004 14:35 Gryffindor_us wrote: Their manager is abusive, but I guess when you're a whore for money it doesn't matter :D. NaDa was in IS when it collapsed, that was during Panasonic OGN. Then he joined KTF with Yellow and they stayed until January 2003, and left together to Toona SG. Then Yellow left and went back to KTF. What is this IS you speak of? I think I know it by another name. I started hating Nada after he started becoming good and the major turning point is when he embarassed Boxer at the 1st KT-KTF finals. There are other reasons though. its the fact that he looks like a kid in pictures yet hes beating a man aka boxer isnt it and also that he has a huge adams apple just admit it | ||
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Gryffindor_us
United States5606 Posts
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