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Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
September 28 2004 11:26 GMT
#121
I happen to think that when it comes to things such as blind and lockdown boxer is second to no one :O

Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
NeverTheEndlessWiz
Profile Joined November 2003
Singapore827 Posts
September 28 2004 11:36 GMT
#122
On September 28 2004 20:26 FrozenArbiter wrote:
I happen to think that when it comes to things such as blind and lockdown boxer is second to no one :O



i happen to think it takes alot of guts to pull off stuff like that without much preparation + anticipation!
Retired Brood War player / WCG SG Top 8 for 2002, 2003, 2004, retired, then made minor comeback to Top 8 at 2008. 2009 = bleh xD
bigMommA
Profile Joined March 2003
1985 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-09-28 11:40:59
September 28 2004 11:36 GMT
#123
I see lockdown, blind, yamato, and SV clonings are all the same stuff.

Boxer choosing to use lockdown and blind cloning is his own daring artistic style. He knows the risk of using them, and he knows the payoff as well (Not just because they are somewhat effective *referring to blind, but it's eye-candy for the fans).

But seeing yamato & SV cloning is much more common in that i think because it's a relatively safer/ideal choice for the majority of Terran pros.

Xellos cloning his SCV's is a good example as he is known to play by the book. It's safe, but the micro lvl is insane to pull that off as fast and accurate as he can.
ManaBlue
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Canada10458 Posts
September 28 2004 12:52 GMT
#124
This is awesome. My little thread, taking on a life of it's own. Digress I say!!! Digress until we eventually leave the topic of SC behind! For one day my friends, we will eventually discover the meaning of life in this thread...one day...

Haha...
ModeratorTL VOD legends: Live2Win, hasuprotoss, Cadical, rinizim, Mani, thedeadhaji, Kennigit, SonuvBob, yakii, fw, pheer, CDRdude, pholon, Uraeus, zatic, baezzi. The contributors make this site what it is. *Props to FakeSteve for respecting the guitar gods*
EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22261 Posts
September 28 2004 12:57 GMT
#125
On September 28 2004 20:36 bigMommA wrote:
I see lockdown, blind, yamato, and SV clonings are all the same stuff.

Boxer choosing to use lockdown and blind cloning is his own daring artistic style. He knows the risk of using them, and he knows the payoff as well (Not just because they are somewhat effective *referring to blind, but it's eye-candy for the fans).

But seeing yamato & SV cloning is much more common in that i think because it's a relatively safer/ideal choice for the majority of Terran pros.

Xellos cloning his SCV's is a good example as he is known to play by the book. It's safe, but the micro lvl is insane to pull that off as fast and accurate as he can.


Definately... I was watching Boxer vs Didi earlier today (the mass blind game) for no particular reason other than being bored...

I mean, Boxer died with like 4k min 3k gas or something crazy like that, he had plenty of time to build appropriately, but he had to play cute, which is fine, though he lost that game when he shouldn't have. Boxer is far from the best player nowadays, but people absolutely love him, because frankly, he's entertaining as hell to watch, you never know what he's gonna do.
Moderatorhttp://carbonleaf.yuku.com/topic/408/t/So-I-proposed-at-a-Carbon-Leaf-concert.html ***** RIP Geoff
OhThatDang
Profile Joined August 2004
United States4685 Posts
September 28 2004 14:30 GMT
#126
On September 28 2004 20:36 EndlessWiz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2004 20:26 FrozenArbiter wrote:
I happen to think that when it comes to things such as blind and lockdown boxer is second to no one :O



i happen to think it takes alot of guts to pull off stuff like that without much preparation + anticipation!


i dont he likes to play around and doesnt care so he just did it what did he have to lose?
troi oi thang map nai!!!
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33693 Posts
September 28 2004 17:43 GMT
#127
FA, never use the ongamenet, pgr, or kespa ranking to prove anything please.

they are largely worthless.
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Orome
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Switzerland11984 Posts
September 28 2004 19:15 GMT
#128
The reason, why Boxer isn't invincible anymore isn't that he didn't improve anymore or anything, it's because when he was winning everything, one group of people started copying him and the other half started figuring out some counterstrats for his style of playing.

It's the same reason, why Oov isn't winning everyhing anymore, people realized that for example a aggressive Z could beat his 3 marine ex and so forth.

Now there will be more new players good at countering a macro-style game, because those players are on top right now. Which means that Boxer will be more successive in the future with his micro.
On a purely personal note, I'd like to show Yellow the beauty of infinitely repeating Starcraft 2 bunkers. -Boxer
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
September 28 2004 19:49 GMT
#129
On September 29 2004 02:43 Waxangel wrote:
FA, never use the ongamenet, pgr, or kespa ranking to prove anything please.

they are largely worthless.


Wax,... I mean the Snorlax, has spoken. XD
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
NeverTheEndlessWiz
Profile Joined November 2003
Singapore827 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-09-28 20:36:14
September 28 2004 20:35 GMT
#130
On September 29 2004 04:15 Orome wrote:
The reason, why Boxer isn't invincible anymore isn't that he didn't improve anymore or anything, it's because when he was winning everything, one group of people started copying him and the other half started figuring out some counterstrats for his style of playing.

It's the same reason, why Oov isn't winning everyhing anymore, people realized that for example a aggressive Z could beat his 3 marine ex and so forth.

Now there will be more new players good at countering a macro-style game, because those players are on top right now. Which means that Boxer will be more successive in the future with his micro.


aka i beat u, u beat me, he beat u, she beat him, i beat her

lol
Retired Brood War player / WCG SG Top 8 for 2002, 2003, 2004, retired, then made minor comeback to Top 8 at 2008. 2009 = bleh xD
MiniRoman
Profile Blog Joined September 2003
Canada3953 Posts
September 29 2004 01:32 GMT
#131
On September 27 2004 22:55 Draeger wrote:
People are just reluctant to cheer for a guy who has never won a major event.


No, they are reluctant to cheer for him ebcause he has never won a major game. Aside from him beating Marine, what else has he won? Nothing!
Nak Allstar.
racebannon
Profile Joined January 2004
Canada1225 Posts
September 29 2004 02:03 GMT
#132
as a rule I always cheer for the ugly gamers because if they can't dominate in video games what can they dominate at. So I always end up cheering for mumyung or thewind. Not ogogo though, I dont even fuck with that kind of ugly
when they really get to know you they will run
gogogobomb
Profile Joined August 2004
China114 Posts
September 29 2004 02:24 GMT
#133
the winner is the ruler.
100 years later,
people who are crazy
for soccer will say
that,great team in
the world?its brazil,
argentina,germany,
italy or something,
but may not be neitherland,
they are skilled, loved by
thousands of people,
but they are not the
champion.
there s no real type
of art in gaming,
the winner is the
ART,REALITY,
TRUTH or some other
names.
drunk with apm 250
ky[Z]
Profile Joined January 2003
China1730 Posts
September 29 2004 03:10 GMT
#134
On September 29 2004 10:32 MiniRoman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2004 22:55 Draeger wrote:
People are just reluctant to cheer for a guy who has never won a major event.


No, they are reluctant to cheer for him ebcause he has never won a major game. Aside from him beating Marine, what else has he won? Nothing!


i think 90% of the korean bw-pro have not achieved anything big.
Terran is SOoOo over-powered~!! Especially in TvT~!
ieatkids5
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United States4628 Posts
September 29 2004 03:14 GMT
#135
Mumyung is fat.
PunkSkeleton
Profile Joined January 2003
Poland226 Posts
September 29 2004 03:30 GMT
#136
I don't know him so why should I hate him? I don't like to watch his vods but IMHO we should blame the ones who lost to him and allowed him to play in the leagues. I don't like his style, I don't like BlackMan style either. But it is NOT a reason to hate them!
Meta
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States6228 Posts
September 29 2004 04:06 GMT
#137
Mumyung killed my father. He must die.
good vibes only
Orome
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Switzerland11984 Posts
September 29 2004 04:06 GMT
#138
On September 29 2004 05:35 EndlessWiz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2004 04:15 Orome wrote:
The reason, why Boxer isn't invincible anymore isn't that he didn't improve anymore or anything, it's because when he was winning everything, one group of people started copying him and the other half started figuring out some counterstrats for his style of playing.

It's the same reason, why Oov isn't winning everyhing anymore, people realized that for example a aggressive Z could beat his 3 marine ex and so forth.

Now there will be more new players good at countering a macro-style game, because those players are on top right now. Which means that Boxer will be more successive in the future with his micro.


aka i beat u, u beat me, he beat u, she beat him, i beat her

lol


Yes
On a purely personal note, I'd like to show Yellow the beauty of infinitely repeating Starcraft 2 bunkers. -Boxer
FY-Forever
Profile Joined July 2004
China346 Posts
September 29 2004 04:35 GMT
#139
On September 29 2004 13:06 Meta wrote:
Mumyung killed my father. He must die.

WHAT ?
GoD Bless Me....
wasted
Profile Joined October 2002
Germany1789 Posts
September 29 2004 04:44 GMT
#140
On September 29 2004 13:35 FY-Forever wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2004 13:06 Meta wrote:
Mumyung killed my father. He must die.

WHAT ?


Mumyung killed his father. He must die.
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