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DarkGhost]Coon[
Profile Joined February 2004
United States1471 Posts
June 23 2004 16:41 GMT
#21
On June 24 2004 01:37 HeaT wrote:
terran. when u have masterd terran u can pwn with zerg!


It's true. :O
Common sense is not so common.
krzych113
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
United Kingdom547 Posts
June 23 2004 16:44 GMT
#22
Terran definetely. Why ? Micro and Macro it's very hard it takes lot of practice to master it or do something nice/well. Why now is zerg 46%? because there is alot much more zergs then terrans.Why now>? because more people play zerg because it's easier than terran and it is hard to fight with them.
iamke55
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
United States2806 Posts
June 23 2004 23:40 GMT
#23
First serious game I tried with Zerg, got zealot rushed and lost. Second game, beat a newb but constantly had 1k minerals. In the first serious games I tried toss, I got up to 200/200 very quickly, secured many expansions(and still lost the games), and didn't have many excess minerals until 3-5 expansions and 200/200. So I would say zerg is hardest and protoss is easiest.
During practice session, I discovered very good build against zerg. -Bisu[Shield]
Ky.Kiske
Profile Joined June 2004
72 Posts
June 23 2004 23:43 GMT
#24
for zerg users, id suggest practice with terran, so ur macro and micro would be better. then then zerg, and ull see a big different in the gameplay from before
Quote - Reach: I love Protoss because it is tough and straight. It is a race for men.
JoeUser
Profile Joined April 2004
United States684 Posts
June 23 2004 23:44 GMT
#25
Zerg is harder because of the unit/peon ratio that must always be achieved at every step of the game. I have been playing zerg for like ~6 months and I still havn't got it mastered.
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x[ReaPeR]x
Profile Joined February 2003
United States3447 Posts
June 23 2004 23:45 GMT
#26
Easiest to learn: Zerg
Hardest to master: Zerg
Hardest to play in general: Terran
ILoveOOv ownZ everyone!!! ~ Lamer List: Mynock, naventus
LazySCV
Profile Blog Joined September 2003
United States2942 Posts
June 23 2004 23:47 GMT
#27
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Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
June 23 2004 23:51 GMT
#28
On June 23 2004 23:59 Madox-101 wrote:
zerg no need micro..just attack move.

Yeah right.
You'll get owned by zealot rush. If you sunken up, you'll then die to psi storm.
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
June 23 2004 23:52 GMT
#29
On June 24 2004 08:40 iamke55 wrote:
First serious game I tried with Zerg, got zealot rushed and lost. Second game, beat a newb but constantly had 1k minerals. In the first serious games I tried toss, I got up to 200/200 very quickly, secured many expansions(and still lost the games), and didn't have many excess minerals until 3-5 expansions and 200/200. So I would say zerg is hardest and protoss is easiest.

Starting out and mastering is not the same thing?
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
KarlSberg~
Profile Blog Joined September 2003
731 Posts
June 23 2004 23:57 GMT
#30
I find Zerg really hard to play. Good balance between economy and army is very difficult especially in early game. Late game is also hard, units die fast, new units spawn fast, hotkeying is a burden.
I find it much easier to switch between Terran and Protoss.
There are 01 kind of people who know binary. Those who understand little endian and those who don t.
mdb
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
Bulgaria4059 Posts
June 23 2004 23:59 GMT
#31
Protoss can be learned very easy,but its very difficult to become good.
suffeli *
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Finland772 Posts
June 24 2004 00:29 GMT
#32
Terran is definately generally the most hardest race, and has the hardest matchups and will require alot of base and unit management. If you make one mistake with terran on early game vs zerg, you will surely lose the game ex. tear your initial marines on sunkens or impale them to lurker spikes. I find zerg easy in almost any matchup and with zerg you can expand and pump units like no-other race because of hatcheries rather than factories or gates.

The power of the race is mainly depedant on which skill level you are playing. Average terran and protoss usually can't win your average zerg. Average protoss will beat mediocore terran player etc, while at top level anybody can win no-matter the matchup.

All of the races are equally hard to master, if you want to play at top level. It is just a matter of preference what GUI, sounds, gameplay you like!

koehli
Profile Joined January 2004
Germany350 Posts
June 24 2004 00:33 GMT
#33
On June 24 2004 09:29 suffeli wrote:

All of the races are equally hard to master, if you want to play at top level. It is just a matter of preference what GUI, sounds, gameplay you like!



It's more a matter of identification. If you are filthy and completely moraleless you'll like zerg. If you are filthy and anal retentive with very fast hands Terran definitely will be your choice. Noble souls of great intellect like we Protoss players will prefer, well Protoss of course ;-)
You go to war with the Army you have, not the Army you might want or wish to have at a later time.
Yarertz
Profile Joined February 2003
Djibouti1891 Posts
June 24 2004 01:32 GMT
#34
terran
StarCraft : 26.IX.2001 - 8.XII.2004 (1167 days) R.I.P [`]
Lem0n
Profile Joined June 2004
United States39 Posts
June 24 2004 02:04 GMT
#35
On June 23 2004 22:27 Cambium wrote:
Protoss is definitely by FAR the easiest to use.


On an amateur level yes. Zerg is the easiest in my opinion. Mass, mass mass. Both T and P require much micro, especially PvZ.
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28894 Posts
June 24 2004 02:20 GMT
#36
all depends on what you're talking about.

toss requires more thinking. terran and zerg require higher speed.

if you're naturally smart yet slow, mastering toss will be easier than terran or zerg. if it's the other way around, then toss will be the hardest for you.

although pvt doesn't really require much of anything.
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Lem0n
Profile Joined June 2004
United States39 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-06-24 02:24:34
June 24 2004 02:23 GMT
#37
PvT = Delaying until you can afford carriers.
Sadterran
Profile Joined May 2004
46 Posts
June 24 2004 02:25 GMT
#38
protoss are a joke.. realy easy to macro//micro and play

zerg are not realy hard but not realy easy but guy 4sz5sz 5sh6sh are not hard no ? in mid game you have nothing more to do and you dont need big micro using zerg... + your pop for overlord are realy easy to not forget.

terran are the most hard by far. you need NON STOP micro//macro + need use hotkey all time and make some nice drop + move during all that you need macro your bass and your unit in the same time all game non stop.
Lem0n
Profile Joined June 2004
United States39 Posts
June 24 2004 02:56 GMT
#39
On June 24 2004 11:25 Sadterran wrote:
protoss are a joke.. realy easy to macro//micro and play


Stop talking while you still have a tiny bit of credibility left.
Cygnus
Profile Joined February 2004
United States853 Posts
June 24 2004 03:03 GMT
#40
im a terran player but still voted zerg ^_^
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