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On June 21 2004 19:37 LedZeppelin wrote: Show nested quote +On June 18 2004 18:11 aSDMA wrote: On June 08 2004 18:11 KiLLme1st- wrote: On June 08 2004 17:47 chava wrote:
how did wsl rip off its gamers?
sorry if that was a stupid question but i started getting interested in the community about a month after wsl ended...but from what i heard a lot of good players played =\ I think it was somewhere along the lines of the ladder made like $1600, and the winner's only got like $125, and 2nd place like $75. Eki and Onurb has lost alot more i'm sure than that running WGT. Oh god.. can't explain how many times this has been done..
WSL was not promoted as something for profit to help pay for WGTour. In fact, the opposite was promised: a small, guaranteed prize was put up to spark participation, with the promise that if participation is large, the prizes will be much larger. The prizes ended up being very fucking small and WGTour kept a large chunk of the money because "WGTour costs them a ton anyways." Was that a rip off? You make the call.
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i dont see how it was a ripoff if the players only paid a small amount to play and the prize was 100+ dollars. they still got a decent amount of money, but if they made the prize bigger i think it would attract more/bigger players. i would love to see another wsl =O
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Valhalla18444 Posts
Honestly the players who participated didn't lose anything.
Anyone who didn't win a prize has no right to bitch about them being too small.
Anyone who did win a prize won their money back and then some, and had fun doing it.
That's all you need..
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Korea (South)17174 Posts
On June 23 2004 16:25 Rt-S.FakeSteve wrote:
Honestly the players who participated didn't lose anything.
Anyone who didn't win a prize has no right to bitch about them being too small.
Anyone who did win a prize won their money back and then some, and had fun doing it.
That's all you need..
anyone can bitch about ethics
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MURICA15980 Posts
What was the buy in for one "week" of WSL? like 2.50? I forget... and something like 3000 people payed? Well if it was a Poker Tournament and 2.50 was the buy in and 3000 payed, then if the prize was only 100$, then hell yes it is a rip off :D
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MURICA15980 Posts
You in Korea right now Rek?
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Korea (South)17174 Posts
On June 23 2004 16:38 Klogon wrote:
You in Korea right now Rek?
off topic
ban
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Valhalla18444 Posts
On June 23 2004 16:36 [pG]Rekrul wrote: Show nested quote +On June 23 2004 16:25 Rt-S.FakeSteve wrote:
Honestly the players who participated didn't lose anything.
Anyone who didn't win a prize has no right to bitch about them being too small.
Anyone who did win a prize won their money back and then some, and had fun doing it.
That's all you need.. anyone can bitch about ethics
Yeah, ok.
Anyways, granted it was... unethical, promising larger prizes and then not delivering, but its not really such a big deal, seeing as nobody lost anything, and those who won prizes still gained alot.
It might not have been.. as big a gain as they would have liked.. but still, its far from a rip-off :[
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its not a rip off, but they sure got away with something
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steve can i join rt-s.?
i'm already in vdp] and joining [cf] on east but you know, your clan is just really sexy
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I wonder why they were trusted since many think they are corrupt when it comes to playing for free.
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Not a rip off, if that extra money really went to WGT operation (Eki/Onurb) they deserve it anyways.
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Why do you think they deserve it?
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I'm kinda thinking it was sorta a rip off. Klogon's poker analogy is essentially correct. And I think Fakesteve's ethics talk is right too. The only thing I don't know if if participation ever went up.
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Almost makes me want to open a ladder. Hell I'll take 1400$ from you guys to switch one of my servers over to broodwar for a few weeks so you guys can ladder for 150 or so.
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i'd gladly help organize a new money ladder as long as its active and the reps are uploaded ^_______^
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you should have included a poll as well
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it took a lot of games for people to try to win the wsl's. a lot of games. expecting a PROMISED bigger prize. "wow there are tons of peopl eplaying wsl, the prize will be huge!". lying when it comes to other people's TIME and MONEY is a big deal imo.
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you think people wouldnt have played a lot for a 125 dollar prize? people play a lot for free...
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it was a complete ripoff: let's not forget how fucking rigged the ladder and tournament was =(
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mind enlightening me on how rigged it was?
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do we really need to discuss this?
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chava, a lot of the people who payed to play actually are the kind of people who would only play something like wsl/wgtour/a tournament for a chance at a prize, "because it involves playing a lot of newbies" (hovz voice). a lot of people quit playing wgtour a long time ago but that doesnt mean they sat out world dream tour, team liquid tour, and wsl. those same people come back for anything with a cash prize because it's a real chance for them to compete, when none of them (almost) play wgtour seriously anymore.
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WGT would be so rich if people had to clcik a banner to accept their win.
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On June 24 2004 12:40 HnR)Louder wrote:
it was a complete ripoff: let's not forget how fucking rigged the ladder and tournament was =(
you're probably thinking of wdt ;]
anyway,eki and onurb had no right to that money,simple as that.
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imo giving a bigger prize (like 1000+ moniez) would make for a huge tournament anyway. i would love to see the best players from around the world all playing the same ladder =P. if they made the prize larger it would generate more interest and get more people to sign up which would give them more money etc.
they could make the prize a lot bigger but they could also keep somemoney for the site without hurting the prize in that case
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