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Looking Back On History: Was WSL A Rip Off?

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STIMEY d okgm fish
Profile Joined August 2003
Canada6140 Posts
June 23 2004 06:52 GMT
#1
On June 21 2004 19:37 LedZeppelin wrote:
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On June 18 2004 18:11 aSDMA wrote:
On June 08 2004 18:11 KiLLme1st- wrote:
On June 08 2004 17:47 chava wrote:
how did wsl rip off its gamers?
sorry if that was a stupid question but i started getting interested in the community about a month after wsl ended...but from what i heard a lot of good players played =\


I think it was somewhere along the lines of the ladder made like $1600, and the winner's only got like $125, and 2nd place like $75.

Eki and Onurb has lost alot more i'm sure than that running WGT.

Oh god.. can't explain how many times this has been done..


WSL was not promoted as something for profit to help pay for WGTour. In fact, the opposite was promised: a small, guaranteed prize was put up to spark participation, with the promise that if participation is large, the prizes will be much larger. The prizes ended up being very fucking small and WGTour kept a large chunk of the money because "WGTour costs them a ton anyways." Was that a rip off? You make the call.
littlechava
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States7218 Posts
June 23 2004 07:23 GMT
#2
i dont see how it was a ripoff if the players only paid a small amount to play and the prize was 100+ dollars. they still got a decent amount of money, but if they made the prize bigger i think it would attract more/bigger players. i would love to see another wsl =O
Entusman #12
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
June 23 2004 07:25 GMT
#3
Honestly the players who participated didn't lose anything.

Anyone who didn't win a prize has no right to bitch about them being too small.

Anyone who did win a prize won their money back and then some, and had fun doing it.

That's all you need..
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
StoneR
Profile Joined April 2003
Spain1252 Posts
June 23 2004 07:27 GMT
#4
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Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
June 23 2004 07:36 GMT
#5
On June 23 2004 16:25 Rt-S.FakeSteve wrote:
Honestly the players who participated didn't lose anything.

Anyone who didn't win a prize has no right to bitch about them being too small.

Anyone who did win a prize won their money back and then some, and had fun doing it.

That's all you need..


anyone can bitch about ethics
why so 진지해?
Klogon
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
MURICA15980 Posts
June 23 2004 07:37 GMT
#6
What was the buy in for one "week" of WSL? like 2.50? I forget... and something like 3000 people payed? Well if it was a Poker Tournament and 2.50 was the buy in and 3000 payed, then if the prize was only 100$, then hell yes it is a rip off :D
Klogon
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
MURICA15980 Posts
June 23 2004 07:38 GMT
#7
You in Korea right now Rek?
Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
June 23 2004 07:39 GMT
#8
On June 23 2004 16:38 Klogon wrote:
You in Korea right now Rek?


off topic

ban
why so 진지해?
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
June 23 2004 07:43 GMT
#9
On June 23 2004 16:36 [pG]Rekrul wrote:
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On June 23 2004 16:25 Rt-S.FakeSteve wrote:
Honestly the players who participated didn't lose anything.

Anyone who didn't win a prize has no right to bitch about them being too small.

Anyone who did win a prize won their money back and then some, and had fun doing it.

That's all you need..


anyone can bitch about ethics


Yeah, ok.


Anyways, granted it was... unethical, promising larger prizes and then not delivering, but its not really such a big deal, seeing as nobody lost anything, and those who won prizes still gained alot.

It might not have been.. as big a gain as they would have liked.. but still, its far from a rip-off :[
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
RuGbUg
Profile Joined June 2003
United States2347 Posts
June 23 2004 08:05 GMT
#10
its not a rip off, but they sure got away with something
anguish: its like that time i asked my bestfriend who happened to be black if his dick was bigger than mine anguish: he got angry anguish: and told me i was racist and gay
littlechava
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States7218 Posts
June 23 2004 08:37 GMT
#11
steve can i join rt-s.?
i'm already in vdp] and joining [cf] on east but you know, your clan is just really sexy
Entusman #12
Servolisk
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
United States5241 Posts
June 23 2004 08:41 GMT
#12
I wonder why they were trusted since many think they are corrupt when it comes to playing for free.
wtf was that signature
Refrain[FriZ]
Profile Joined June 2003
Canada4337 Posts
June 23 2004 09:24 GMT
#13
Not a rip off, if that extra money really went to WGT operation (Eki/Onurb) they deserve it anyways.
Servolisk
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
United States5241 Posts
June 23 2004 10:01 GMT
#14
Why do you think they deserve it?
wtf was that signature
x[ReaPeR]x
Profile Joined February 2003
United States3447 Posts
June 23 2004 10:34 GMT
#15
I'm kinda thinking it was sorta a rip off. Klogon's poker analogy is essentially correct. And I think Fakesteve's ethics talk is right too. The only thing I don't know if if participation ever went up.
ILoveOOv ownZ everyone!!! ~ Lamer List: Mynock, naventus
NotSorry
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States6722 Posts
June 23 2004 10:37 GMT
#16
Almost makes me want to open a ladder. Hell I'll take 1400$ from you guys to switch one of my servers over to broodwar for a few weeks so you guys can ladder for 150 or so.
We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. - Orwell
littlechava
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States7218 Posts
June 23 2004 13:23 GMT
#17
i'd gladly help organize a new money ladder as long as its active and the reps are uploaded ^_______^
Entusman #12
SoMuchBetter
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia10606 Posts
June 23 2004 13:31 GMT
#18
you should have included a poll as well
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STIMEY d okgm fish
Profile Joined August 2003
Canada6140 Posts
June 23 2004 18:06 GMT
#19
it took a lot of games for people to try to win the wsl's. a lot of games. expecting a PROMISED bigger prize. "wow there are tons of peopl eplaying wsl, the prize will be huge!". lying when it comes to other people's TIME and MONEY is a big deal imo.
littlechava
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States7218 Posts
June 24 2004 03:29 GMT
#20
you think people wouldnt have played a lot for a 125 dollar prize? people play a lot for free...
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