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[Interview] KA OSL S2 Semi-B Winner

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Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-03 15:45:17
September 03 2010 15:36 GMT
#1
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This is your third consecutive OSL final, thoughts?

I'm very happy, this is particularly heightened because my opponent is JD-hyun. Also, this OSL is hosted in China, if I get good results, this year will become the most successful year in my career.

===
You seemed to have won with ease.

I planned to play very offensively/aggressively today, so I made a lot of impromptu decisions. Due to the map, I had to play defensively in the second game; however, on other maps, I wanted to change my turtling image, so I played very offensively. My prepared tactics worked very well.

===
You lost very regrettably to Free's proxy gate in set 3.

I was very surprised. The possibility of a proxy-gate did not even occur to me. I was angry at myself for not realizing that this was a viable opening. Even though I typed "gg", but I was very angry at myself afterwards. [t/n: this was really confusing in Chinese, so the translation is probably off]

===
This is the first time since Boxer in 2001 that someone appeared in three consecutive OSL finals.

Many people have mentioned to me about this record, how it began with Boxer, and will end with me. Even though I still lack in many aspects when compared to Boxer, I and still very happy to hear these comments. I will do continue to do my best and win the title.

===
This is the first FvJ in OSL final

I was a little hurt before this series of games. [insert commentator name] joked that for viewership, it's better if Free advances. I was not happy about this comment. However, the other members of the crew all said that, on the contrary, a FvJ final guarantees good ratings, which was comforting to me. We already gave exciting matches during the MSL final, we will perform 120% and give even better games for this final.

===
You are 7-0 (series) against Protoss

My greatest opponent is JD. Many people still believe that JD is better than me at BoX. I must beat JD-hyun and make people think that I am the best.

===
JD mentioned in his last interview that this OSL final will be the most important set of games in his career.

This is very much the same for me [t/n: literal translation - I will also risk everything for this final]. Even though I have won quite a few finals in the past, I will definitely not become lazy because of this. I have many reasons to motivate me to win even more titles, my determination is not worse than that of JD.

===
If you win again, you'd have the same number of titles as JD

I don't really care about records. What's important to me is to defeat JD. Winning will make me a great player like JD, which is the most important thing to me.

===
This is the first OSL hosted outside of SK.

I feel that this final won't have the same atmosphere as a regular final, it will definitely be different from finals held in SK. However, the most important thing is that this final will be hosted in a foreign country, so I must perform well and display exciting games for our foreign fans.

===
If you win this OSL, you will become the first player to win four titles in one year.

I was not aware of this record. If i win again, I think I will be named "most damaging(?) player" [t/n: basically the best player], which makes me happy. If I win this final, I may seen the same way as some of the greatest players in the past. I very much look forward to these games.

===
Final words.

In the past, there were times when I thought too lowly of myself, and there were times when I thought too highly of myself. After my first OSL victory, I was overly confident (afterwards), which was very regrettable. However, recently, I feel that my performance and conditions are worthy of my wins from the past, and also worthy of more wins in the future. This past August has been the most successful period in my career, I accomplished all of my goals. I want to win in September, and make September (part of) my most successful months as well.



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When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7801 Posts
September 03 2010 15:40 GMT
#2
Yeahhh. Flash fighting baby
mierin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4943 Posts
September 03 2010 15:40 GMT
#3
Thanks!
JD, Stork, Calm, Hyuk Fighting!
Linx_101
Profile Joined November 2008
Canada166 Posts
September 03 2010 15:47 GMT
#4
This past August has been the most successful period in my career, I accomplished all of my goals.]


I guess he didn't want to win WCG Korea :$. Thanks for the translation.
An eye for an eye will make the whole world blind - Mahatma Gandhi
SiDX
Profile Joined July 2009
New Zealand1975 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-03 15:48:16
September 03 2010 15:47 GMT
#5
Many people have mentioned to me about this record, how it began with Boxer, and will end with me.


T_T end of BW incoming I really hope not...
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-03 15:49:42
September 03 2010 15:48 GMT
#6
Erhh didnt flash lose a series to stork before? Or do they only count bo5? Idk,

Thanks for interview! much appreciated!

On September 04 2010 00:47 Linx_101 wrote:
Show nested quote +
This past August has been the most successful period in my career, I accomplished all of my goals.]


I guess he didn't want to win WCG Korea :$. Thanks for the translation.

He said he didnt care much because he was allready going to LA.
In the woods, there lurks..
HeadhunteR
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Argentina1258 Posts
September 03 2010 15:52 GMT
#7
he will win wcg in LA where it really matters..gogo flash Fighting if he wins then b word.
in The Kong line forever
andiCR
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Costa Rica2273 Posts
September 03 2010 16:01 GMT
#8
bONJWAAAA

there, i fucken said it!

GOOGOGOGOOG FLASH
Nightmare1795 wrote: I played a guy in bronze who said he was Japanese. That was the only game I ever dropped a nuke, which was purely coincidental.
Emon_
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
3925 Posts
September 03 2010 16:09 GMT
#9
If Flash wins this finals there's no denying it anymore. Jaedong is literally the only thing between Flash and the Bonjwa title.
"I know that human beings and fish can coexist peacefully" -GWB ||
alypse
Profile Joined May 2010
2771 Posts
September 03 2010 16:11 GMT
#10
Flash gogogo.

Thank you cambium for the interview translation.
KT Violet 1988 - 2012
Zzoram
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada7115 Posts
September 03 2010 16:14 GMT
#11
On September 04 2010 00:47 SiDX wrote:
Show nested quote +
Many people have mentioned to me about this record, how it began with Boxer, and will end with me.


T_T end of BW incoming I really hope not...


Broodwar probably is coming to an end. Blizzard wants to kill it to promote SC2 sales. With Flash vs Jaedong, the pinnacles of Broodwar mastery in the most iconic TvZ matchup in possibly the last OSL, this will be a momentus event. I really do hope Flash gets his Golden Mouse. His legendary skill deserves a legendary title.
KristianJS
Profile Joined October 2009
2107 Posts
September 03 2010 16:21 GMT
#12
Flash is already one of the greatest players of all time without any doubt, but winning this OSL would surely elevate him to the highest level. I'll be rooting for you Flash!!
You need to be 100% behind someone before you can stab them in the back
unit
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2621 Posts
September 03 2010 16:26 GMT
#13
in the name of the FvJ rivalry JD needs to win this being dominated by flash recently if JD loses again this rivalry may as well end up the same as Boxer vs Yellow where for YEARS Boxer DOMINATED Yellow i want a more even rivalry this time
tyCe
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia2542 Posts
September 03 2010 16:29 GMT
#14
On September 04 2010 00:47 Linx_101 wrote:
Show nested quote +
This past August has been the most successful period in my career, I accomplished all of my goals.]


I guess he didn't want to win WCG Korea :$. Thanks for the translation.

Mind-games baby
Betrayed by EG.BuK
Zzoram
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada7115 Posts
September 03 2010 16:31 GMT
#15
On September 04 2010 01:26 unit wrote:
in the name of the FvJ rivalry JD needs to win this being dominated by flash recently if JD loses again this rivalry may as well end up the same as Boxer vs Yellow where for YEARS Boxer DOMINATED Yellow i want a more even rivalry this time


That won't happen, because this is possibly the last OSL for Broodwar. There won't be years left for Jaedong to get dominated.
vectorix108
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4633 Posts
September 03 2010 16:37 GMT
#16
thx for the translation. I REALLY hope this isnt the last OSL
Aka XephyR/Shaneyesss
Lebesgue
Profile Joined October 2008
4542 Posts
September 03 2010 16:39 GMT
#17
Go Flash.
Haven't doubted about it for a second!

You're the best!
Rinrun
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada3509 Posts
September 03 2010 16:41 GMT
#18
Thanks for the translation, this one is definitely for all the marbles.
MBC/Liquid/TSM always.
Pvvned
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States405 Posts
September 03 2010 16:44 GMT
#19
I imagine this final will also go 3-2 like the MSL finals
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biskit
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia355 Posts
September 03 2010 16:55 GMT
#20
Thank you for the translation :D.

Gogo fighting Flash! And Jaedong as well! May the best player win.
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9858 Posts
September 03 2010 17:18 GMT
#21
On September 04 2010 01:09 Emon_ wrote:
If Flash wins this finals there's no denying it anymore. Jaedong is literally the only thing between Flash and the Bonjwa title.


And Flash is the only thing between Jaedong and bonjwa. They are both much better than the rest of the competition. If JD wins I think we should have two Bonjwas
In life, the journey is more satisfying than the destination. || .::Entrepreneurship::. Living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't || Mechanical Engineering & Economics Major
raga4ka
Profile Joined February 2008
Bulgaria5679 Posts
September 03 2010 17:34 GMT
#22
Flash and Jaedong left everyone else in the dust . No one will ever surpass them .
ilj.psa
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Peru3081 Posts
September 03 2010 17:34 GMT
#23
jaedong barely beat stork 3-2, almost losing.
i don't really buy into the opinion that these 2 are light years ahead of others.
Garnet
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Vietnam9020 Posts
September 03 2010 17:41 GMT
#24
I don't see any reason to have more starleagues after all these Flash-JD series.
tirentu
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1257 Posts
September 03 2010 17:57 GMT
#25
I think we've achieved the natural climax of BW at this point. Every final should be FvJ.
gillon
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden1578 Posts
September 03 2010 17:57 GMT
#26
Flash confirmed for bonjwa tier!
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dRaW
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada5744 Posts
September 03 2010 18:40 GMT
#27
Yeah, Flash doesn't have to win this, he already smashed enough records. Furthermore, given the time, JD and Flash (at their current pace) will already break records of all old pro gamers. I feel that JD should come up with the epic mind games this series, and hopefully win. (3-2 of course )
I don't need luck, luck is for noobs, good luck to you though
leandroqm
Profile Joined June 2008
Netherlands874 Posts
September 03 2010 18:40 GMT
#28
Great interview, thanks for the translation.
I'm cheering only for great games.
It has to be epic whoever wins.
What are you tinkering about?
Thorin
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
601 Posts
September 03 2010 18:44 GMT
#29
My greatest opponent is JD. Many people still believe that JD is better than me at BoX. I must beat JD-hyun and make people think that I am the best.


I love their comments about each other. You really get the feeling they'd battle this hard if they were in an otherwise empty room with no money on the line.

Flash = Naruto Uzumaki
Jaedong = Sasuke Uchiha
KissBlade
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States5718 Posts
September 03 2010 18:48 GMT
#30
Smash this clown JD! =(!!!!!! (even though I fear for the worst >_<)

damn MSL ..
Nal_rAwr
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2611 Posts
September 03 2010 18:52 GMT
#31
flash wins the final, and he's bonjwa 5

He will be Bonjwa 5 after the finals
Nony is Bonjwa
_romantic
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States455 Posts
September 03 2010 18:59 GMT
#32
On September 04 2010 00:36 Cambium wrote:
===
You lost very regrettably to Free's proxy gate in set 3.

I was very surprised. The possibility of a proxy-gate did not even occur to me. I was angry at myself for not realizing that this was a viable opening. Even though I typed "gg", but I was very angry at myself afterwards. [t/n: this was really confusing in Chinese, so the translation is probably off]

===


Chinese:

第三场比赛被对手前置兵营输掉比赛之后看起来非常遗憾
教主:吓我一跳.我压根没想过前置兵营.对此我非常生气,我居然没想到对手会用这招.输了之后虽然我承认我输了,但是当时我确实对自己很生气.

It scared the crap out of me, because I'd never ever thought of that possibility. I was very mad at myself for not thinking of that. After the game, though I accepted defeat, I was still very unhappy with myself.
Jaedong beats other players. Bisu beats other players, in PL. Flash beats Starcraft.
ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
September 03 2010 19:00 GMT
#33
I don't even like Flash and I can pretty much say with confidence that he's the next Bonjwa if he wins..
Writerptrk
Rkie
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States1278 Posts
September 03 2010 19:06 GMT
#34
... i tried so hard carefully weaving my way through various websites to find the 4th/5th set vods, but of course upon arriving to TL and seeing the 1 Liquibet i clicked on it by impulse... well, i guess JD once again it is. If this finals ever happens again though, i am going to just stop following BW.
Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
September 03 2010 19:10 GMT
#35
Hey JD remember the time when you used Queen/Defiler vs Fantasy and said that it was too APM intensive? Well its time to bring the Zerg play into a whole new level!
2014 - ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ Raise your bows brood warriors! ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ
ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
September 03 2010 19:13 GMT
#36
On September 04 2010 04:10 Xiphos wrote:
Hey JD remember the time when you used Queen/Defiler vs Fantasy and said that it was too APM intensive? Well its time to bring the Zerg play into a whole new level!

Jaedong has no problem beating Flash in a straight up game I'd say, in fact in the last series Jaedong lost to mech and new weird timing push strats, but totally dominated Flash in the straight up game..
Writerptrk
shurgen
Profile Joined October 2009
350 Posts
September 03 2010 19:15 GMT
#37
On September 04 2010 04:00 ArvickHero wrote:
I don't even like Flash and I can pretty much say with confidence that he's the next Bonjwa if he wins..

Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
September 03 2010 19:19 GMT
#38
On September 04 2010 04:13 ArvickHero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2010 04:10 Xiphos wrote:
Hey JD remember the time when you used Queen/Defiler vs Fantasy and said that it was too APM intensive? Well its time to bring the Zerg play into a whole new level!

Jaedong has no problem beating Flash in a straight up game I'd say, in fact in the last series Jaedong lost to mech and new weird timing push strats, but totally dominated Flash in the straight up game..


But didn't Jaedong say in a interview that he is invincible against Mech and that Mech should only be reserved for Protoss?
2014 - ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ Raise your bows brood warriors! ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ
blahman3344
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2015 Posts
September 03 2010 19:19 GMT
#39
3rd FvJ final within the span of 1 month! This really will boil down to whoever the better player is. Good luck Flash and Jaedong!

The possibility of a proxy-gate did not even occur to me. I was angry at myself for not realizing that this was a viable opening.

This made me lol. Flash is so good at standard play that proxies are just trivialities to him XD
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KristianJS
Profile Joined October 2009
2107 Posts
September 03 2010 19:19 GMT
#40
On September 04 2010 04:13 ArvickHero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2010 04:10 Xiphos wrote:
Hey JD remember the time when you used Queen/Defiler vs Fantasy and said that it was too APM intensive? Well its time to bring the Zerg play into a whole new level!

Jaedong has no problem beating Flash in a straight up game I'd say, in fact in the last series Jaedong lost to mech and new weird timing push strats, but totally dominated Flash in the straight up game..



"totally dominated" is a bit much. JD played his ass off with some sick defiler control to win that game. But yeah, in a straight up game I do think they're pretty much even (maps notwithstanding).
You need to be 100% behind someone before you can stab them in the back
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
September 03 2010 19:21 GMT
#41
Monster. Manner. Flash.

The rivalry must continue. Jaedong fighting, but hoping for good games.
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
FirstProbe
Profile Joined June 2004
1206 Posts
September 03 2010 19:21 GMT
#42
On September 04 2010 04:13 ArvickHero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2010 04:10 Xiphos wrote:
Hey JD remember the time when you used Queen/Defiler vs Fantasy and said that it was too APM intensive? Well its time to bring the Zerg play into a whole new level!

Jaedong has no problem beating Flash in a straight up game I'd say, in fact in the last series Jaedong lost to mech and new weird timing push strats, but totally dominated Flash in the straight up game..


This is stupid. If you actually watched the game, you'd realise that Jaedong was basically on a razor thin edge the entire game, with Flash clearly advantageous in the early mid-game. Because Flash was overly aggressive trying to shut down 1oclock, he threw away map control, and it was only then that Jaedong took the advantage. To suggest that Jaedong had no problem is ludicrous, and the ravings of a ill-informed fanboy.
Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France7888 Posts
September 03 2010 19:24 GMT
#43
The only thing which makes the idea that BW may die soon a bit less bitter is to imagine how violently Flash and Jaedong will anal rape players such as Idra or Morrow if they switch to SC2.

Current top SC2 players should fucking pray every day before going to sleep that BW doesn't die any soon.
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
Quasimoto3000
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States471 Posts
September 03 2010 19:43 GMT
#44
JD 3 - 2 Flash
you heard it here
Every sunday a nun lays from my gunplay
Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
September 03 2010 19:53 GMT
#45
On September 04 2010 04:43 Tha_Docta wrote:
JD 3 - 0 Flash
you heard it here


Fixed
2014 - ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ Raise your bows brood warriors! ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ
Jayson X
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Switzerland2431 Posts
September 03 2010 20:06 GMT
#46
Hats off to the best Terran that ever walked among us mortals. A true champion.
blue_arrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
1971 Posts
September 03 2010 20:23 GMT
#47
I hope they make this into one of the greatest finals of all time; with the uncertainty surrounding KeSPA-Gretech, the progaming teams, the new SC2 scene, I just hope that people will be given something unforgettable in this series. If SC:BW progaming is going to end, it should come to an end that will resound forever in people's minds.
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amazingoopah
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1925 Posts
September 03 2010 20:25 GMT
#48
6 finals in a row for Flash and 4 out of 6 for Jaedong... totally ridiculous dominance by these two players. This could be the final showdown between two titans under the current BW setup... who knows what will happen to the proleague and the teams after this final
vOddy
Profile Joined July 2009
Sweden402 Posts
September 03 2010 20:31 GMT
#49
For fuck's sake, why can't they just leave Brood War alone?

"Oh shit, there's no Brood War on TV anymore. I GUESS I WILL BUY SC2 INSTEAD LOLOLOLOLOL" fucking idiots, god damn it.
"You generate awesomeness. It just flows from you."
Captain Peabody
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3110 Posts
September 03 2010 20:44 GMT
#50
Ha ha...this is really, really, really getting ridiculous. These two guys are dominating BW so hard its not even funny.
Still disappointed that Stork didn't make it into the finals; Flash vs Stork would've been so much cooler (by my reckoning, anyway). Ah, well...it'll still be fun, I'm sure.

Here's to Flash vs Jaedong MSL Finals: Take Three!
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Deleted User 47542
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
1484 Posts
September 03 2010 20:58 GMT
#51
How can anyone even argue that these two aren't bonjwas.
Noxide
Profile Joined July 2009
United States2870 Posts
September 03 2010 21:04 GMT
#52
Looking forward to an epic clash once again at Shanghai.

FLASH FIGHTING!
Flash ひなの戦争の王である || しかし、実際にはヤフーの ファンタジーサッカー、楽しいプレー私の週末を占めている
Evil_Monkey_
Profile Joined May 2003
Denmark296 Posts
September 03 2010 21:06 GMT
#53
Free would have had a chance of beating Jaedong, because he has done it in the past and has good pvz. I think we all realized though that he was gonna get savaged by Flash. Unfortunately Stork choked as he often does, so we now have a repeat of the repeat of the repeat of repeat.
........
nextstep
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada705 Posts
September 03 2010 21:29 GMT
#54
Go Flash, avenge Stork!
go KHAN! TBLS <3
Garaman
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States556 Posts
September 03 2010 21:38 GMT
#55
as a huge fucking oz fan, jaedong fan... if flash wins this...
i can safely say he deserves the bonjwa title out of anybody out there.
modern day SC aftr savior, the only ppl i believe got close is jaedong... when he was dominating the osl/msl.
now flash...
HOLY CRAP
JAEDONG BEAT THIS IMP INTO THE GROUND!!
LEGEND KILLER!!!!
altered
Profile Joined March 2008
Switzerland646 Posts
September 03 2010 21:56 GMT
#56
omg DOUBLE FINALS, again. so intense
Does Flash dream of electric Romeo?
jyLee
Profile Joined August 2009
United States350 Posts
September 03 2010 22:10 GMT
#57
I think if JD wins this OSL we should crown both Flash and JD bonjwas. It was unfair that JD and Flash were part of the same era and at the same time its a great thing to have such a dominating rivlary with such a massive disparity between these two compared to the rest of the crowd. Its obvious if JD and Flash played in differant eras they would easily be the considered the best player of that time and cosidered the all time greatest player as well. So gogo double bonjwas .
ReketSomething
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6012 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-03 22:58:24
September 03 2010 22:57 GMT
#58
On September 04 2010 04:19 Xiphos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2010 04:13 ArvickHero wrote:
On September 04 2010 04:10 Xiphos wrote:
Hey JD remember the time when you used Queen/Defiler vs Fantasy and said that it was too APM intensive? Well its time to bring the Zerg play into a whole new level!

Jaedong has no problem beating Flash in a straight up game I'd say, in fact in the last series Jaedong lost to mech and new weird timing push strats, but totally dominated Flash in the straight up game..


But didn't Jaedong say in a interview that he is invincible against Mech and that Mech should only be reserved for Protoss?


He did... T___T...I blame the marines.

Edit: I recall flash saying mech was for protoss too...I blame the maps.
Jaedong :3
nuke_rush
Profile Joined November 2009
Hong Kong126 Posts
September 03 2010 23:06 GMT
#59
Honestly, I think with this kind of unprecedented 'twilight' of pro SC, a rivalry like this might actually be the worst thing for BW. What the scene really needed was a diverse scene of top players and upstarts, but instead we're getting the same old things over and over - a rivalry between two great players that always turns out to be either anticlimactic or 1-sided.

However, with the jaded state of BW as it is, I'm hoping that Flash and Jaedong can pull out the amazing final we've been waiting for - i'm not talking that last MSL; i'm talking the NATE MSL before the power fail - that kind of play. If the scene should end, it's only fitting it ends with a show of the culmination of all SC before it.
Battlecruiser operational | still can't decide which team i like
Zozo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Brazil2579 Posts
September 03 2010 23:09 GMT
#60
So yea,

Good players settle who's better with a best of X games
Great players settle who's better with a tournament final
Flash and Jaedong settle who's the best with a best of X tournament finals

sup wit dat.
EGM guides me
mierin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4943 Posts
September 03 2010 23:27 GMT
#61
Hahaha, BoX tournament finals indeed.
JD, Stork, Calm, Hyuk Fighting!
Djin)ftw(
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Germany3357 Posts
September 03 2010 23:30 GMT
#62
On September 04 2010 04:24 Biff The Understudy wrote:
The only thing which makes the idea that BW may die soon a bit less bitter is to imagine how violently Flash and Jaedong will anal rape players such as Idra or Morrow if they switch to SC2.

Current top SC2 players should fucking pray every day before going to sleep that BW doesn't die any soon.


xD nice
Indeed it is hard to imagine these two not owning everyone at SC2 as well.
Still, I think you exaggerate. Yes they currently dominate pretty much, especially Flash. But they are still pretty young and not so long on the scene. Nada won his Golden Mouse 5 years or so after his first appearance. Players come and go and in two or three years there will be others who beat them
"jk CLG best mindgames using the baron to counterthrow" - boesthius
Taekwon
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8155 Posts
September 04 2010 00:32 GMT
#63
Jeezuz, these interviews always make me think these two want to murder the other in their sleep!
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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
September 04 2010 00:56 GMT
#64
On September 04 2010 04:21 FirstProbe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2010 04:13 ArvickHero wrote:
On September 04 2010 04:10 Xiphos wrote:
Hey JD remember the time when you used Queen/Defiler vs Fantasy and said that it was too APM intensive? Well its time to bring the Zerg play into a whole new level!

Jaedong has no problem beating Flash in a straight up game I'd say, in fact in the last series Jaedong lost to mech and new weird timing push strats, but totally dominated Flash in the straight up game..


This is stupid. If you actually watched the game, you'd realise that Jaedong was basically on a razor thin edge the entire game, with Flash clearly advantageous in the early mid-game. Because Flash was overly aggressive trying to shut down 1oclock, he threw away map control, and it was only then that Jaedong took the advantage. To suggest that Jaedong had no problem is ludicrous, and the ravings of a ill-informed fanboy.

As a Jaedong fan, I agree. It wasn't domination at all. Jaedong saved himself miraculously like 5 times in that game and in the end managed to win. His playstyle makes it seem like he "destroys" his opponent, but really just one tiny thing can go wrong for him and he will lose outright, making it look like an awful loss. That's why most of Jaedong's games seem like he's dominating when he wins, and when he loses his losses seem just so stupid. In reality it really is razor thin all game long.

If everything clicks for Jaedong I'd say that he might even be the favorite against Flash in a straight-up game, but just one mistake will make him instantly lose.

I'm predicting a 3-2 series, no idea which way it'll go
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
zenMaster
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada761 Posts
September 04 2010 01:12 GMT
#65
OGN will host more OSLs remember? They have signed a contract with Gretech.
As for PL/MSL, they'll run anyways and win when Gretech take Kespa/MBC to court.
moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
September 04 2010 01:14 GMT
#66
On September 04 2010 00:36 Cambium wrote:
I'm very happy, this is particularly heightened because my opponent is JD-hyun. Also, this OSL is hosted in China, if I get good results, this year will become the most successful year in my career.


Regardless of the outcome of the OSL, this is the most successful year of his career. Making 3 dual consecutive finals, winning 3 (hopefully 4) titles, plus winning SPL and WL is really something else.

I predict 3-1 Flash, 3-2 if he spawns at 6 on Dreamliner.
I'm going to sleep, let me get some of that carpet.
moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-04 01:24:03
September 04 2010 01:20 GMT
#67
On September 04 2010 10:12 zenMaster wrote:
OGN will host more OSLs remember? They have signed a contract with Gretech.
As for PL/MSL, they'll run anyways and win when Gretech take Kespa/MBC to court.

Assuming the worst for a second (matter goes to court with KeSPA losing, or just PL dying without going to court), the individual leagues will die out shortly after. Progaming teams exist for the team dynamic.

Individual leagues only really cater to the top % of progamers who can actually make it past ro32 on a regular basis (2-3 players per team). If there was no PL, the team numbers would dwindle down considerably because a lot of A teamers, not to mention B-teamers would retire for lack of playtime. Additionally, team sponsors would be a lot less likely to care as much, because they will get considerably less coverage from 1 of their players potentially making the ro16 than they would from their team playing every week.

In the end, PL has to survive for BW to survive. Individual leagues alone will be the end of progaming teams, and at best you'd have a few sponsored clans with a much less professional setting and atmosphere. Pretty depressing to think about.
I'm going to sleep, let me get some of that carpet.
L0thar
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
987 Posts
September 04 2010 01:26 GMT
#68
Thanks a lot, great interview!

Final words.

In the past, there were times when I thought too lowly of myself, and there were times when I thought too highly of myself. After my first OSL victory, I was overly confident (afterwards), which was very regrettable. However, recently, I feel that my performance and conditions are worthy of my wins from the past, and also worthy of more wins in the future. This past August has been the most successful period in my career, I accomplished all of my goals. I want to win in September, and make September (part of) my most successful months as well.

This is sooo true. I remember the arogant Flash after his first OSL win and the underperforming Flash right after that. But it looks like he finaly found a balance now.

Also the statement "It began with Boxer and ended with Flash" is giving me chills. It seems...odly fitting. But I hope BW will stay strong in Korea and Flash will have time to show us more amazing games.
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
September 04 2010 01:34 GMT
#69
--- Nuked ---
[Azn]Nada
Profile Joined April 2009
United States275 Posts
September 04 2010 01:38 GMT
#70
On September 04 2010 08:09 Zozo wrote:
So yea,

Good players settle who's better with a best of X games
Great players settle who's better with a tournament final
Flash and Jaedong settle who's the best with a best of X tournament finals

sup wit dat.


XDDDD
SO TRUE. This literally made me LoL, but yea. I greatly look forward to it, and as a Chinese person, I hope this helps start SC in china.

If you watched the 3rd VOD, u can see flash curse when he sees the proxy gate, he really was surprised xD.

Anyways, thanks for the interview translation. Greatly appreciated
meegrean
Profile Joined May 2008
Thailand7699 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-04 01:52:51
September 04 2010 01:51 GMT
#71
FLASH SO GOOD!!!!!

On September 04 2010 08:09 Zozo wrote:
So yea,

Good players settle who's better with a best of X games
Great players settle who's better with a tournament final
Flash and Jaedong settle who's the best with a best of X tournament finals

sup wit dat.

nice comparison lol.
Brood War loyalist
DarkMatter_
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada1774 Posts
September 04 2010 01:58 GMT
#72
To be honest, I feel like Flash is displaying a more healthy attitude than Jaedong towards these finals. Jaedong seems like he's putting way too much pressure on himself by treating the finals like his life depends on it. Flash, on the other hand, sounds much more calm and collected, while still exhibiting the same level of motivation. I feel that if Jaedong loses this, he'll go the way of Bisu. However, if Flash loses, I doubt it will change anything, he'll still continue to be incredibly dominant.
ShaperofDreams
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada2492 Posts
September 04 2010 02:04 GMT
#73
lol flash wants to consume jaedong and gain his power kekeke

I love them both although i do think that flash deserves the same about of titles that jaedong has.
Bitches don't know about my overlord. FUCK OFF ALDARIS I HAVE ENOUGH PYLONS. My Balls are as smooth as Eggs.
NuKedUFirst
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada3139 Posts
September 04 2010 02:23 GMT
#74
Wonder if rekrul will be making bets on JD vs. Flash again? Lol

Flash seems determined, no matter the results I expect great games
FrostedMiniWeet wrote: I like winning because it validates all the bloody time I waste playing SC2.
Tazza
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Korea (South)1678 Posts
September 04 2010 03:11 GMT
#75
Yes! Another JvF finals! Can't wait for the games
mierin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4943 Posts
September 04 2010 03:30 GMT
#76
On September 04 2010 10:34 krndandaman wrote:
what's with people and the b word?

JD and Flash aren't bonjwa's. They are ABOVE bonjwa's. Starcraft has never seen such dual dominance...The fact that both of them are playing during the same period and consistently both making finals/winning (moreso flash as of now though) is just amazing.


I agree, Bonjwa can't describe Flash and Jaedong...they're even better than the best other players, even in their primes...no doubt about it
JD, Stork, Calm, Hyuk Fighting!
DarkMatter_
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada1774 Posts
September 04 2010 03:41 GMT
#77
In the last 6 starleagues, Jaedong losing to Baby and Flash losing to Effort were the only two occasions where either player was eliminated by someone other than each other.
timlin737
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada27 Posts
September 04 2010 03:43 GMT
#78
OH shiit, Flash is looking unstoppable atm...I hope JD wins the OSL finals so that the order of the universe will be maintained
w
Loser777
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
1931 Posts
September 04 2010 03:55 GMT
#79
After what I saw to be an anticlimactic ending to the last OSL finals, I'm looking forward to some good games (not all in speedling junk)
6581
Scaramanga
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia8090 Posts
September 04 2010 04:14 GMT
#80
On September 04 2010 03:44 amarillo wrote:
Show nested quote +
My greatest opponent is JD. Many people still believe that JD is better than me at BoX. I must beat JD-hyun and make people think that I am the best.


I love their comments about each other. You really get the feeling they'd battle this hard if they were in an otherwise empty room with no money on the line.

Flash = Naruto Uzumaki
Jaedong = Sasuke Uchiha

Please don't liken starcraft to a very shitty manga
Loda talked about the fun counter, it's AdmiralBulldog on his natures prophet
dukethegold
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada5645 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-04 04:21:20
September 04 2010 04:20 GMT
#81
On September 04 2010 13:14 Scaramanga wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2010 03:44 amarillo wrote:
My greatest opponent is JD. Many people still believe that JD is better than me at BoX. I must beat JD-hyun and make people think that I am the best.


I love their comments about each other. You really get the feeling they'd battle this hard if they were in an otherwise empty room with no money on the line.

Flash = Naruto Uzumaki
Jaedong = Sasuke Uchiha

Please don't liken starcraft to a very shitty manga


Wtf? Did you just compare a Brood War rivalry to a very crappy manga series?

I know that Flash v.s. Jaedong is getting old, but oh come on, it's not THAT bad yet.


This is the first FvJ in OSL final

I was a little hurt before this series of games. [insert commentator name] joked that for viewership, it's better if Free advances. I was not happy about this comment. However, the other members of the crew all said that, on the contrary, a FvJ final guarantees good ratings, which was comforting to me. We already gave exciting matches during the MSL final, we will perform 120% and give even better games for this final.


Can't say much about Free v.s. Jaedong being more popular, but I know that the ratings would be better if it is Flash v.s. Stork instead.

Like somebody else mentioned, this season is truly a BO3 tournament series between Flash and Jaedong: OSL, MSL, WCG.

1-1 so far, with Flash ahead because WCG Korean Final is a BO3 showmatch.

As always, Protoss are the stepping stones, again. How long has it been since the last Protoss won something?

Whiplash
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States2928 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-04 04:33:25
September 04 2010 04:33 GMT
#82
If flash wins... no denying his Bwonja status.
Cinematographer / Steadicam Operator. Former Starcraft commentator/player
SneakPeek
Profile Joined April 2010
Philippines162 Posts
September 04 2010 07:16 GMT
#83
On September 04 2010 00:47 Linx_101 wrote:
Show nested quote +
This past August has been the most successful period in my career, I accomplished all of my goals.]


I guess he didn't want to win WCG Korea :$. Thanks for the translation.


i think the goal he had in wcg was a spot to represent the country, so it didnt matter if he got first, second or third. i think that goes for JD
ShadeR
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7535 Posts
September 04 2010 07:23 GMT
#84
On September 04 2010 13:33 Whiplash wrote:
If flash wins... no denying his Bwonja status.

Flash first Bwonja? Okie im fine with that XD
pinkranger15
Profile Joined June 2010
Philippines1597 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-04 07:52:42
September 04 2010 07:51 GMT
#85
four titles in one year? does that include silvers?

2010 WCG Korea Finals (silver)
2010 Bigfile MSL (gold)
2010 Hana Daetoo Securities MSL (gold)
2010 Korean Air OnGameNet StarLeague (silver)

(i think WCG's not included in the count. correct me if i'm wrong)
yoyo!
Mumei
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States257 Posts
September 04 2010 08:15 GMT
#86
It counts in terms of KeSPA / being a standard league, but it doesn't count in terms of the final being indicative of anything, simply because being the winner had no real meaning.
darktreb
Profile Joined May 2007
United States3016 Posts
September 04 2010 09:00 GMT
#87
On September 04 2010 16:51 pinkranger15 wrote:
four titles in one year? does that include silvers?

2010 WCG Korea Finals (silver)
2010 Bigfile MSL (gold)
2010 Hana Daetoo Securities MSL (gold)
2010 Korean Air OnGameNet StarLeague (silver)

(i think WCG's not included in the count. correct me if i'm wrong)


It means MSL/OSL, the two major leagues.

Also, Flash already has 3 gold and 2 silver this year (in MSL and OSL). He's going to end up with 4/2 or 3/3.
gamapg
Profile Joined January 2010
Philippines189 Posts
September 04 2010 11:50 GMT
#88
Honestly if the OSL finals goes 3-0 I will epic troll so badly... I want every match to open standard + Show Spoiler +
NOT 14 CC

and then both players just duke it out on the late game with so much going on that for viewers we'll need split screen commentaries, and that each game will be at least 50 minutes long with late game starting from the 15 minute mark where there'll be blood all over the map and it will all end in one glory fight with a mash of units crashing into each other....... god that'll be epic...
Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
September 04 2010 12:18 GMT
#89
On September 04 2010 02:34 ilj.psa wrote:
jaedong barely beat stork 3-2, almost losing.
i don't really buy into the opinion that these 2 are light years ahead of others.

Jaedong was so off his game on that day. I like Stork more, but Stork isn't the better player. But he deserved to lose because he got a bit too greedy.
Jaedong better have a better showing against Flash. He could use some sleep.
If you are not Bisu, chances are I hate you.
Fadetowhite
Profile Joined August 2010
Korea (South)302 Posts
September 04 2010 12:26 GMT
#90
On September 04 2010 12:55 Loser777 wrote:
After what I saw to be an anticlimactic ending to the last OSL finals, I'm looking forward to some good games (not all in speedling junk)


its the counter to the greedy 14cc, so its all upto how flash dictates the pace of the early game.
메신저
By.Pato
Profile Joined March 2010
Costa Rica52 Posts
September 04 2010 15:58 GMT
#91
I'm not a flash fan but he is damn good, and I'm a terran so GO by.Flash!....
by the way I hate blizzard SC2 just sucks is like warcraft/comand n conker BW 4 ever
By.Pato
Profile Joined March 2010
Costa Rica52 Posts
September 04 2010 16:08 GMT
#92
On September 04 2010 04:24 Biff The Understudy wrote:
The only thing which makes the idea that BW may die soon a bit less bitter is to imagine how violently Flash and Jaedong will anal rape players such as Idra or Morrow if they switch to SC2.

Current top SC2 players should fucking pray every day before going to sleep that BW doesn't die any soon.

LMFAO I agree!!! fucking idra I just want to kick him in the balls
FirstProbe
Profile Joined June 2004
1206 Posts
September 04 2010 18:04 GMT
#93
There is quite a significant difference in prize money between 1st and 2nd place. This is the first time I've felt that winning would be more about the pride than money, and may be the key motivator for both players.

Lets hope it's a great and epic series.
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