EPTFlash and Jaedong: Clash of Paradigms - Page 2
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Taekwon
United States8155 Posts
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Harem
United States11390 Posts
The real minesweeper zerg is Calm anyways. http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/korean/games/41795_Calm_vs_Fantasy GGaemo can't ever hope to compete with the magnitude of mines Calm swept in that game. | ||
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Inzek
Chile802 Posts
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kassi
United States290 Posts
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Hidden_MotiveS
Canada2562 Posts
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King K. Rool
Canada4408 Posts
On August 28 2010 11:31 Harem wrote: The real minesweeper zerg is Calm anyways. http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/korean/games/41795_Calm_vs_Fantasy GGaemo can't ever hope to compete with the magnitude of mines Calm swept in that game. Stork's dragoons would like to have a word with you. | ||
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alypse
2771 Posts
 Can't waiititit | ||
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darkmetal505
United States639 Posts
On August 28 2010 11:27 dukethegold wrote: There is a huge difference between Flash/Jaedong and Boxer/Yellow. Boxer/Yellow were not mere gamers, but public idols that reached out to the fans with their out of the game booth personalities. Flash and Jaedong simply don't have the same level of charisma to captivate the same type of audience. They can't rally in and unite all demographics of brood war fans like Boxer/Yellow could. I, for one, am not excited. Jaedong technotiks. It's freakin awesome. | ||
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Tien
Russian Federation4447 Posts
Each player exemplifies the perfect usage of their perspective races. The rivalry between Flash and Jaedong is far greater than the Boxer / Yellow rivalry. Boxer was always better than Yellow. He always won when it mattered. Everyone just knew. This is a rivalry we've never seen before. Two players at the top of the game, practically even in their domination of everybody else. And to this date even in their important match clashes. Flash, however; has the edge in this MSL. | ||
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Drium
United States888 Posts
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Musoeun
United States4324 Posts
It does make me sad, though: where is the Protoss exemplar? What is the Protoss niche? I still believe in my heart that BeSt - for all his PvZ weakness - is the closest modern BW has come to perfection in Protoss, but he peaked too soon, and has never fully recovered from his string of thrashings by July, Stork, and Bisu in consecutive OSLs. Stork is the best Protoss overall for the last few years, but he's never been consistent enough to challenge for the crown of Ultimate Beast, and he's never captured the brutal power of the Protoss like BeSt did, he's just really really good. Bisu's had the highest peaks, but he's had massive problems, and his style is unconventional, almost counter-intuitive for a Protoss player. Or so it would seem. If Jangbi had continued to improve, instead of falling off the map after his loss to Luxury, he might have finally attained that peak and challenged LeeSSang for dominance - but alas, it was not to be, and at heart Jangbi's too cute to earn the Perfect Protoss crown, anyway. There's a reason Reach still holds our hearts as the crown of the Protoss race: the Protoss attitude - and unit stats - scream testosterone and machismo. In short, maybe it's not surprising that the Protoss have never achieved the dominance of Terran throughout BW history, or the Zerg with the advent of the Maestro and improvements of the Tyrant. If actual history teaches us anything, it's that pure brawn will never win against sufficient brains (Terran) or mobility and flexibility (Zerg). | ||
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Kenpachi
United States9908 Posts
On August 28 2010 11:27 dukethegold wrote: There can't be a Flash/Jaedong thread with a Bisu fan insertion. In this case, I am it. Go Bisu. + Show Spoiler [OSL spoiler] + I hope Stork crushes Jaedong and Free crushes Flash. I am sick of Flash and Jaedong standing on the top with nobody being able to challenge their positions. It's like some people said, there is no top 3 in Brood War, only top 2. My boy Bisu and Fantasy failed. I am switching to SC2. There is a huge difference between Flash/Jaedong and Boxer/Yellow. Boxer/Yellow were not mere gamers, but public idols that reached out to the fans with their out of the game booth personalities. Flash and Jaedong simply don't have the same level of charisma to captivate the same type of audience. They can't rally in and unite all demographics of brood war fans like Boxer/Yellow could. I, for one, am not excited. + Show Spoiler [Spoiler Response] + Im with you. im happy for Jaedong and flash but we need to break the trend because it feels like forever since a Jaedong and Flash havent won a finals (cept Effort.) | ||
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waffling1
599 Posts
i think this is one for the record that anyone can reference when looking for a "portrait" of the top two current players the stolen pictures work perfectly too haha | ||
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Champi
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Hyde
Australia14568 Posts
This rivalry is so split, every time there's a poll it's almost always 50/50. So glad I'll get to witness such a rivalry. No other rivalry will be like Flash and JD's because of their skill level, which is what makes it so good. When an unstoppable force (JD) meets an immovable object (Flash) | ||
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Tien
Russian Federation4447 Posts
On August 28 2010 13:21 Musoeun wrote: This is FE-quality work. Very nice article. It does make me sad, though: where is the Protoss exemplar? What is the Protoss niche? I still believe in my heart that BeSt - for all his PvZ weakness - is the closest modern BW has come to perfection in Protoss, but he peaked too soon, and has never fully recovered from his string of thrashings by July, Stork, and Bisu in consecutive OSLs. Ever since Bisu has fallen, it has been sad sad times for Auir. | ||
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shinarit
Hungary900 Posts
I definitely have to watch some matches of them...There is a huge difference between Flash/Jaedong and Boxer/Yellow. Boxer/Yellow were not mere gamers, but public idols that reached out to the fans with their out of the game booth personalities. I think that what you speak about was BoxeR and BoxeR alone. THE idol. His rivalry with Yellow was much less a fight of ideas, what the whole OP is about... the clash of play styles. | ||
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meegrean
Thailand7699 Posts
 nice write-up. | ||
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hazelynut
United States2195 Posts
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Prototype
Sweden56 Posts
I still like the article, for what it is, but I would never buy into its conclusions. Most notably, the segment about Flash/Terran, while ostensibly the most well developed - the Jaedong/Zerg section being but a small modicum in comparison - I find to be severely and fundamentally lacking in the way it ignores one of the oldest, finest, most esteemed traditions of Terran play - dating back to Boxer himself - which is, to this day, still realized by several contemporary practitioners. I find it difficult to believe this tradition would not characterize 'Terran play', nor do I think it can be completely synthesized with Flash's style of play. I admire Flash for what he does - he has indeed contributed more to the current body of trends and stratagems than just about anyone else - but to say he alone epitomizes 'Terran play' is to lessen the beauty and diversity of the wellspring that is Starcraft. | ||
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