Famous Korean Starcraft league: Korean Air Starleague 2010 season 2 (OSL) final will be in the oriental pearl TV tower, Shanghai, China, on Sep. 11.
As top Starcraft league in the world, OSL has always attracted millions of fans’ eyeball. With OSL2010 Season 2 is taking place, Ongamenet TV station which belongs to Korean CJ Group has made a contract with SMG Shanghai Interactive Television Co., Ltd. (SITV), and bring OSL final to Shanghai, China. They have carefully chosen the landmark of Shanghai: the oriental pearl TV tower as the final venue. OSL final will be broadcast on live by SITV and its long time partner PLU throughout China.
OSL has a history about 10 years, and it has a great influence among the e-sport fans around the world. China, on the other hand, is a developing country in the field of e-sports, many Chinese e-sports fans are expecting to watch the world top league by their own. It is said that OGN and SITV grasp this opportunity and co-operate in the future from all sides. Hope it will not only contribute to the communication for Sino-Korean e-sport community, but also help China to promote e-sports.
More Information Relating to OSL2010 Season 2: Sponsor: OGN & SITV Undertaker: OGN & SITV game channel Event: OGN 2010 Korean Air Starleague Season 2 Final Location: The Oriental Pear TV Tower, Shanghai, China Exclusive broadcaster: SITV game channel & Korean OGN channel
Brief Introduction of Ongamenet TV Station Founded in 2000, OGN is the first TV station in the world which focuses on games only. Aim at producing a variety game projects for young among 10 to 30. OSL starleague is a great match followed by many other projects which made a history for the e-sports, and also made S. Korean a nation called “The suzerain of e-sports”.
OGN produced a culture which made itself became the center of this field. OGN has laid the foundation of 10 years’ experience and helps Korean lead the world. OGN try its every effort to make itself as a platform for young people of Korean and the rest of the world to communicate in harmony and friendship. In order to strengthen the concept: “Korea, the suzerain of e-sports” and help the transformation of Korean games go into the world’s market.
Brief Introduction of SITV SITV game channel’s aim: To collect all the games in the world, to lead a healthy game life, to make the best game TV in China. SITV game channel is one of the few professional and national game TV station in China. It focuses on game players, and poisoning itself in digital TV, with the help of hi-tech means of broadcast, try to provide the best game information for its customers. It is a newly and syntaxic game platform. At the end of 2010, SITV game channel has 22000 thousand users. SITV game channel always bear the concept of “Promote healthy game culture, serving the general audience games”. It has three brand programs, i.e. Games Daily, Games Hall and G-league, which are warmly welcome by young players and fans among 15 to 30.
EDIT: Chinese commentators' list for OSL final has been released:
Stage host: Yuan Ting(袁霆)
Birthday: Sep. 12th Height: 168cm Specialty: Performance, Piano (lv10), Advanced music theory (Google translation) Position for the event: Host Graduated from: Shanghai Theatre Academy Habits: listening music, watching movie Host experience in game programs: Game channel’s “e-sports’ Eden, G-league”, “Games Daily” Feature of hosting: Cordial, Lively
Chinese commentators for OSL final: Zhang Hongshen, Yu Xiaogang, Liu Qin, Liu Yun
Zhang Hongshen(张宏圣)
Nickname: BBC, 比比西(Transliteration of BBC) Birthday: July 7th Position for the event: Chinese commentator for OSL final Host experience in game programs: Game channel’s “e-sports’ Eden, G-league”, “leisure Block” and years of working experience as commentator in many other big e-sports live broadcast. Features of hosting: Steady, Humorous
Yu Xiaogang(郁小刚)
Nickname: XD=LOVE, the Master Birthday: March 22nd Position for the event: Chinese commentator for OSL final Experience for commenting: Commented for all the PLU Starcraft matches, offline matches of Game channel’s “e-sports’ Eden, G-league”, and S. Korean professional Starcraft leagues. Features of commenting: Professional, Humorous
Liu Qin(刘青)
Nickname: alone, Double-Dragon Position for the event: Chinese commentator for OSL final Experience for commenting: Commented for all the PLU Starcraft matches, offline matches of Game channel’s “e-sports’ Eden, G-league” Features of commenting: Witty, Passion
Liu Yun(刘允)
Nickname: Tri-cannon Position for the event: Chinese commentator for OSL final Experience for commenting: Commented recent PLU Starcraft matches, and S. Korean professional Starcraft leagues. Features of commenting: Professional, Passion
The news I have received goes like this: If nothing goes wrong [then the finals will be held in Shanghai], though we should patiently wait for the news (confirmation).
No korean source given, though the other posts in the thread seem to believe the OP there.
On August 13 2010 21:14 OPSavioR wrote: So all the korean pros have to fly... which will help the airport company. this shit is rigged
Except that I don't think the korean fans will be too happy about it. The chinese fans, sure, but the team sponsors don't really get much from PR in china.
do you guys recognise how many turned up for wcg last year in chengdu? it was at least over 100,000. this is a noble experiment by ogn (if it is true indeed) to expand outside of korea, and china seems the most logical choice.
Nice to hear SC is going to more countries. Perhaps then we'll get better conditions for the players and teams, as well as more exposure for the sponsors.
On August 13 2010 21:45 Emon_ wrote: Woho! Kespa taking its natural expansion!
Nice to hear SC is going to more countries. Perhaps then we'll get better conditions for the players and teams, as well as more exposure for the sponsors.
On August 13 2010 21:45 Emon_ wrote: Woho! Kespa taking its natural expansion!
Nice to hear SC is going to more countries. Perhaps then we'll get better conditions for the players and teams, as well as more exposure for the sponsors.
Not sure how this can be seen as a bad thing, if China get even more interested in the BW scene its only good for the world as a whole (though I doubt this is real).
On August 13 2010 22:11 aegisabcde wrote: The Chinese commentator keeps pointing out how in the intro, EffOrt is standing on top of that famous tower in Shanghai.
GOM TV MSL S3 also featured hong kong skyline in its intro lolz
but this time korean air is way more powerful and stuff though so idunno.
On August 13 2010 21:36 GTR wrote: do you guys recognise how many turned up for wcg last year in chengdu? it was at least over 100,000. this is a noble experiment by ogn (if it is true indeed) to expand outside of korea, and china seems the most logical choice.
First of all WCG is not just a Starcraft tournament. Many people were there to watch other games. In fact I think most Chinese were there to support their Warcraft 3 and FIFA players, though I could be wrong. But it makes sense since those were games which Chinese gamers could have a shot at winning.
Second it would sound a a bit more logical if this were an international event. OSL is 100% Korean. I highly doubt people would come only to watch two Korean kids playing Starcraft. Maybe the Chinese hardcore BW fans would, as for the rest I don't think so. If there were a Chinese player as a finalist this could happen because of nationalism though this is not what's happening.
Third, China might have a large Starcraft community (second only to Korea some might say), but it's still no where near Korea's, at least for Brood War. Maybe in SC2 they will surpass Korea we may never know.
On August 13 2010 21:36 GTR wrote: do you guys recognise how many turned up for wcg last year in chengdu? it was at least over 100,000. this is a noble experiment by ogn (if it is true indeed) to expand outside of korea, and china seems the most logical choice.
First of all WCG is not just a Starcraft tournament. Many people were there to watch other games. In fact I think most Chinese were there to support their Warcraft 3 and FIFA players, though I could be wrong. But it makes sense since those were games which Chinese gamers could have a shot at winning.
Second it would sound a a bit more logical if this were an international event. OSL is 100% Korean. I highly doubt people would come only to watch two Korean kids playing Starcraft. Maybe the Chinese hardcore BW fans would, as for the rest I don't think so. If there were a Chinese player as a finalist this could happen because of nationalism though this is not what's happening.
Third, China might have a large Starcraft community (second only to Korea some might say), but it's still no where near Korea's, at least for Brood War. Maybe in SC2 they will surpass Korea we may never know.
But hey who are we to decide what OGN should do.
At least 50.000 people will come to watch, if SNSD or WG is coming to do the Opening of Finals lololol
On August 13 2010 21:36 GTR wrote: do you guys recognise how many turned up for wcg last year in chengdu? it was at least over 100,000. this is a noble experiment by ogn (if it is true indeed) to expand outside of korea, and china seems the most logical choice.
First of all WCG is not just a Starcraft tournament. Many people were there to watch other games. In fact I think most Chinese were there to support their Warcraft 3 and FIFA players, though I could be wrong. But it makes sense since those were games which Chinese gamers could have a shot at winning.
Second it would sound a a bit more logical if this were an international event. OSL is 100% Korean. I highly doubt people would come only to watch two Korean kids playing Starcraft. Maybe the Chinese hardcore BW fans would, as for the rest I don't think so. If there were a Chinese player as a finalist this could happen because of nationalism though this is not what's happening.
Third, China might have a large Starcraft community (second only to Korea some might say), but it's still no where near Korea's, at least for Brood War. Maybe in SC2 they will surpass Korea we may never know.
But hey who are we to decide what OGN should do.
At least additional 50.000 people will come to watch, if SNSD or WG is coming to do the Opening of Finals lololol
Fixed =)
I'm still little skeptical about this. Getting a large fanbase is good, but generally Koreans do not like Chinese.... or other Asians around the area for that matter (I don't know but they just hate each other.... it's loosening up these days, but the tension still exists).
1) What does Korean Air have to with Shanghai 2) It'll be a big bitchslap to Korean fans 3) We all know what happened the last time Chinese Sources revealed something before a Korean Source did.
I feel like the only way this can happen is if Blizzard somehow coerces (no doubt in a dubiously legal way) OGN to hold their finals outside of Korea, to promote SC2 perhaps? EDIT: i mean promote SC2 within Korea, by stopping Koreans from going to the OSL finals
On August 14 2010 00:11 EtherealDeath wrote: I think I recall Cambium doing some Mandarin -> English translations before on TL. I could be wrong though.
Wait, isn't written Chinese independant of Mandarin/Cantonese? (Aside from Taiwan?)
Not a big surprise to me though I doubt it as well. Some points for OSL final to be held in Shanghai:
1) Two Chinese media companies (PLU and NeoTV) officially obtained OSL broadcasting right. NeoTV is from Shanghai, and PLU is in a city close to Shanghai.
2) The STX week will run at the end of August in the Korean pavilion of Shanghai 2010 Expo. There will be 4 STX soul players (currently TossGirl and JulyZerg are confirmed) playing against the Chinese players (F91, Legend, Kurafi and Toodming) between Aug 25 and 29. (hosted by NeoTV)
On August 14 2010 00:11 EtherealDeath wrote: I think I recall Cambium doing some Mandarin -> English translations before on TL. I could be wrong though.
Wait, isn't written Chinese independant of Mandarin/Cantonese? (Aside from Taiwan?)
lol i dont get what you mean how is chinese independent of mandarin or cantonese which are chinese dialects? and mandarin is the official language in china
As I've said, it'll be a massive, massive disservice to Korean fans. You think Chinese are going to care for two Koreans playing each other?
Either way, I read Cho Hyun Min's cyworld, and she posted a teaser about where the finals will be held. Someone asked
"You should host it outside the country this time. It'll be good for Korean Air promotion. How about somewhere like Beijing?" Her reply: "What about the fans inside the country? ^^"
If OGN does this it'll be literally the worst PR move they have made, especially after the OSL final incident last season. I don't see this happening, especially with zero Korean sources even mentioning this.
On August 14 2010 00:11 EtherealDeath wrote: I think I recall Cambium doing some Mandarin -> English translations before on TL. I could be wrong though.
Wait, isn't written Chinese independant of Mandarin/Cantonese? (Aside from Taiwan?)
Written Chinese has two forms: Traditional Chinese and Simplified Chinese, they are generally mutually intelligible.
While spoken Chinese like Mandarin, Cantonese, MinNanYu (Dialect mainly spoken by Taiwanese) are generally NOT mutually intelligible. Similarly for those hundreds of dialects from China.
On August 14 2010 00:11 EtherealDeath wrote: I think I recall Cambium doing some Mandarin -> English translations before on TL. I could be wrong though.
Wait, isn't written Chinese independant of Mandarin/Cantonese? (Aside from Taiwan?)
lol i dont get what you mean how is chinese independent of mandarin or cantonese which are chinese dialects? and mandarin is the official language in china
I think I kind of understand what he is trying to say, which is that written chinese is always written the same despite the dialect spoken. The aside from Taiwan refers to the Taiwanese writing in traditional text instead of simplified which most of China uses now.
Also, I don't really find this believable. Maybe for the MSL if they had troubles with Gretech... =/
On August 14 2010 00:11 EtherealDeath wrote: I think I recall Cambium doing some Mandarin -> English translations before on TL. I could be wrong though.
Wait, isn't written Chinese independant of Mandarin/Cantonese? (Aside from Taiwan?)
lol i dont get what you mean how is chinese independent of mandarin or cantonese which are chinese dialects? and mandarin is the official language in china
I think I kind of understand what he is trying to say, which is that written chinese is always written the same despite the dialect spoken. The aside from Taiwan refers to the Taiwanese writing in traditional text instead of simplified which most of China uses now.
Also, I don't really find this believable. Maybe for the MSL if they had troubles with Gretech... =/
haha ok yeah i thought might be that.. anyway hong kong (and macau ? i forgot lol) also use traditional chinese! :D so much prettier teehee. but so many more strokes to write lol. anyway this is getting off topic
haha yeah highly doubt osl is gonna be held in china suddenly lol
On August 14 2010 00:27 Milkis wrote: I don't see why point 2) will matter.
As I've said, it'll be a massive, massive disservice to Korean fans. You think Chinese are going to care for two Koreans playing each other?
Either way, I read Cho Hyun Min's cyworld, and she posted a teaser about where the finals will be held. Someone asked
"You should host it outside the country this time. It'll be good for Korean Air promotion. How about somewhere like Beijing?" Her reply: "What about the fans inside the country? ^^"
If OGN does this it'll be literally the worst PR move they have made, especially after the OSL final incident last season. I don't see this happening, especially with zero Korean sources even mentioning this.
in response to the bolded: yes, yes they will care lol
On August 14 2010 00:27 Milkis wrote: I don't see why point 2) will matter.
As I've said, it'll be a massive, massive disservice to Korean fans. You think Chinese are going to care for two Koreans playing each other?
Either way, I read Cho Hyun Min's cyworld, and she posted a teaser about where the finals will be held. Someone asked
"You should host it outside the country this time. It'll be good for Korean Air promotion. How about somewhere like Beijing?" Her reply: "What about the fans inside the country? ^^"
If OGN does this it'll be literally the worst PR move they have made, especially after the OSL final incident last season. I don't see this happening, especially with zero Korean sources even mentioning this.
There are actually many Chinese fans of those Korean players. That's why they broadcast the OSL games. I agree with your point that OGN should care more about the Korean fans.
On August 13 2010 21:03 Comet702 wrote: EDIT: Latest news: In NeoTV's live broadcast of OSL just now, the commentor confirmed that NeoTV, together with OGN, will host the OSL final in Oriental Pearl Tower, Shanghai, China on Sep. 11, 2010. During the final, OGN and NeoTV will host a ceremony to celebrate the 10-year anniversary of WCG.
If this is true... lol I can feel the outrage already.
If it's really on 9/11, that would be about the same time I'd be in Shanghai for the world expo. If Stork is in it, I'd definitely drop by even if I need to reschedule some stuff. Otherwise, I'd go if it's convenient.
In order to expand to another market it will be nice (because we all know that now the things are getting rough in Korea because of Blizzard pressure), but it will be a very dumb move because Korean fans are going to get mad about it and you cant hurt your main market when theres a threat in your operation because of a new game (SC2) that is triyng to get your market flooding money. In conclusion: expanding BW proscene in China would be done in other way.
On August 13 2010 21:46 maybenexttime wrote: It's Blizzard's scheme to kill the BW scene:
"THE MAJORITY OF BROOD WAR PROGAMERS DIE IN A PLANE CRASH UPON ARRIVAL TO OSL FINAL. ONLY FLASH SURVIVES." - Fomos
;p
I knew it! There had to be some reason why these players are going int'l! Korean Air has been conspiring with Blizzard against KeSPA to kill off the BW scene! It makes perfect sense! =0
In all seriousness: If China will have that many fans attending, Then they can really have a lot of future opportunities to keep the BW scene alive. Who knows, maybe they'll host the OSL finals in China every other year tourney or something?
It's simply an unconfirmed rumor. The link on PlaySC has a one liner that says "I just received word that OSL finals will be in China. However, we should patiently await for an official announcement"
I don't know how much we can trust this guy, but it's unofficial and unconfirmed at the moment. Followed by tens of pages of spam and hype because people are going like AMG AMG REALLY SO COOL!
On August 13 2010 21:03 Comet702 wrote: EDIT: Latest news: In NeoTV's live broadcast of OSL just now, the commentor confirmed that NeoTV, together with OGN, will host the OSL final in Oriental Pearl Tower, Shanghai, China on Sep. 11, 2010. During the final, OGN and NeoTV will host a ceremony to celebrate the 10-year anniversary of WCG.
If this is true... lol I can feel the outrage already.
lol thought u typed i can feel the outage already. lol
I really hope it's true since I'm living in China now - I'll definitely go to Korea one day anyway but I wouldn't mind a little OSL finals at home before that happens. :D
3) We all know what happened the last time Chinese Sources revealed something before a Korean Source did.
So no, highly doubt it.
what happened?
what incident occured last OSL? Something was mentioned on the previous page
When people were leaving the stadium, OSL only allowed them to leave in 2 lines for the shuttle bus (or single line). This frustrated many fans who were stuck inside the stadium or on the line.
For people that were able to walk home or take a different way to get home... they were still only allowing people to leave through the shuttle bus line.
This seems a bit crazy? (if its true) Yeah China has a big market, but how big is SC still in China? Not to mention this completely takes away Koreans from watching the Grand Finals live, unless they decide to fly to China. This is a giant risk hoping that the Chinese market is more receptive than the Korean market, while at the same time hopefully not offending the Korean market. Very risky move IMO.
On August 14 2010 01:23 Roffles wrote: It's simply an unconfirmed rumor. The link on PlaySC has a one liner that says "I just received word that OSL finals will be in China. However, we should patiently await for an official announcement"
I don't know how much we can trust this guy, but it's unofficial and unconfirmed at the moment. Followed by tens of pages of spam and hype because people are going like AMG AMG REALLY SO COOL!
while nowhere conclusive, XD=Love aka Dashi is basically the biggest name in BW in China, and XiaoSe from NeoTV also said this I believe.
NeoTV and PLU are the two companies responsible for basically all the broadcasting of BW events in China between the two of them, and having their two functional leaders come and announce this news does lend it credibility.
If this were some random rumor post I wouldn't have given it a second thought, but the fact that these are the people who are saying it...
As an aside, the Ro36 opening had Effort standing on top of the Oriental Pearl tower in Shanghai lol.
In -other- unrelated (but perhaps actually related?) news, XiaoSe from NeoTV also said that after the OSL finals, OGN will announce a partnership with PLU/NeoTV to host a regular league that pits top Korean Courage finishers against Chinese players. That news kinda fizzled out and got overwhelmed by the OMG WTF SHANGHAI OSL news though, so I don't have much more on that.
Well, thats what happens when you get 30,000 to attend a final. I think there might be 300,000 attending this one rofl, with people riding on top of other ppl to watch.
On August 14 2010 01:23 Roffles wrote: It's simply an unconfirmed rumor. The link on PlaySC has a one liner that says "I just received word that OSL finals will be in China. However, we should patiently await for an official announcement"
I don't know how much we can trust this guy, but it's unofficial and unconfirmed at the moment. Followed by tens of pages of spam and hype because people are going like AMG AMG REALLY SO COOL!
while nowhere conclusive, XD=Love aka Dashi is basically the biggest name in BW in China, and XiaoSe from NeoTV also said this I believe.
NeoTV and PLU are the two companies responsible for basically all the broadcasting of BW events in China between the two of them, and having their two functional leaders come and announce this news does lend it credibility.
If this were some random rumor post I wouldn't have given it a second thought, but the fact that these are the people who are saying it...
As an aside, the Ro36 opening had Effort standing on top of the Oriental Pearl tower in Shanghai lol.
In -other- unrelated (but perhaps actually related?) news, XiaoSe from NeoTV also said that after the OSL finals, OGN will announce a partnership with PLU/NeoTV to host a regular league that pits top Korean Courage finishers against Chinese players. That news kinda fizzled out and got overwhelmed by the OMG WTF SHANGHAI OSL news though, so I don't have much more on that.
On August 14 2010 01:23 Roffles wrote: It's simply an unconfirmed rumor. The link on PlaySC has a one liner that says "I just received word that OSL finals will be in China. However, we should patiently await for an official announcement"
I don't know how much we can trust this guy, but it's unofficial and unconfirmed at the moment. Followed by tens of pages of spam and hype because people are going like AMG AMG REALLY SO COOL!
while nowhere conclusive, XD=Love aka Dashi is basically the biggest name in BW in China, and XiaoSe from NeoTV also said this I believe.
NeoTV and PLU are the two companies responsible for basically all the broadcasting of BW events in China between the two of them, and having their two functional leaders come and announce this news does lend it credibility.
If this were some random rumor post I wouldn't have given it a second thought, but the fact that these are the people who are saying it...
As an aside, the Ro36 opening had Effort standing on top of the Oriental Pearl tower in Shanghai lol.
In -other- unrelated (but perhaps actually related?) news, XiaoSe from NeoTV also said that after the OSL finals, OGN will announce a partnership with PLU/NeoTV to host a regular league that pits top Korean Courage finishers against Chinese players. That news kinda fizzled out and got overwhelmed by the OMG WTF SHANGHAI OSL news though, so I don't have much more on that.
XD=Love and Xiaose are both noobs
Their abilities aside, XD=Love is the most well known (and generally most well liked) commentator, and XiaoSe runs NeoTV. It's a matter of reputation here, since words that come out of their mouth are essentially equivalent to official position of NeoTV/PLU.
That's so sick. Hopefully this becomes a reality, because after WCG 2009, any esports in China would be insane. Hopefully they give the koreans discounts on their flight as well, though.
During the OSL broadcast on NeoTV, it has been confirmed that this season's OSL final will be co-hosted by OGN and NeoTV, on Sept. 11, in Shanghai, at the Oriental Pearl. During this time, OGN and NeoTV will also organize a celebratory event for the 10th WCG. Thank you NeoTV blah blah blah [unimportant stuff].
During the OSL broadcast on NeoTV, it has been confirmed that this season's OSL final will be co-hosted by OGN and NeoTV, on Sept. 11, in Shanghai, at the Oriental Pearl. During this time, OGN and NeoTV will also organize a celebratory event for the 10th WCG. Thank you NeoTV blah blah blah [unimportant stuff].
That's just a repost; Wfbrood basically is a compendium of information from other sites, it's no more or less reliable than its sources :3
During the OSL broadcast on NeoTV, it has been confirmed that this season's OSL final will be co-hosted by OGN and NeoTV, on Sept. 11, in Shanghai, at the Oriental Pearl. During this time, OGN and NeoTV will also organize a celebratory event for the 10th WCG. Thank you NeoTV blah blah blah [unimportant stuff].
That's just a repost; Wfbrood basically is a compendium of information from other sites, it's no more or less reliable than its sources :3
More reliable in a sense that we can confirm that this has been announced on NeoTV.
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Oops, didn't read that you've already said that a few posts above.
On August 14 2010 00:11 EtherealDeath wrote: I think I recall Cambium doing some Mandarin -> English translations before on TL. I could be wrong though.
Yea way back in 2005, with Emlary, L2W and FireBlast!
i've been watching the chinese streams and all of this is just chatter, nothing official or endorsed, basically, the only thing these rumors has going for them is that the first OSL intro had effort half naked with wings standing on the oriental pearl.....then again the first korean air osl had flash standing in an airplane hanger.
But the logistics of having a korean sc final in china... especially at the oriental pearl doesnt seem very probable. What is more likely is maybe holding it at the world's expo in shanghai, the amount of people that go there is like 400,000 per day, and it has it's own stadium. This could be good for spreading esports, and if you want something to be big, you get chinese people to follow it, but then again, how is korean air planning on getting all the koreans over?
During the OSL broadcast on NeoTV, it has been confirmed that this season's OSL final will be co-hosted by OGN and NeoTV, on Sept. 11, in Shanghai, at the Oriental Pearl. During this time, OGN and NeoTV will also organize a celebratory event for the 10th WCG. Thank you NeoTV blah blah blah [unimportant stuff].
That's just a repost; Wfbrood basically is a compendium of information from other sites, it's no more or less reliable than its sources :3
No I wrote that, the source is direct from NeoTV
As I said, it's 99% confirmed, but I cant say more details, just wait for the official annoucement -.-
On August 14 2010 01:23 Roffles wrote: It's simply an unconfirmed rumor. The link on PlaySC has a one liner that says "I just received word that OSL finals will be in China. However, we should patiently await for an official announcement"
I don't know how much we can trust this guy, but it's unofficial and unconfirmed at the moment. Followed by tens of pages of spam and hype because people are going like AMG AMG REALLY SO COOL!
while nowhere conclusive, XD=Love aka Dashi is basically the biggest name in BW in China, and XiaoSe from NeoTV also said this I believe.
NeoTV and PLU are the two companies responsible for basically all the broadcasting of BW events in China between the two of them, and having their two functional leaders come and announce this news does lend it credibility.
If this were some random rumor post I wouldn't have given it a second thought, but the fact that these are the people who are saying it...
As an aside, the Ro36 opening had Effort standing on top of the Oriental Pearl tower in Shanghai lol.
In -other- unrelated (but perhaps actually related?) news, XiaoSe from NeoTV also said that after the OSL finals, OGN will announce a partnership with PLU/NeoTV to host a regular league that pits top Korean Courage finishers against Chinese players. That news kinda fizzled out and got overwhelmed by the OMG WTF SHANGHAI OSL news though, so I don't have much more on that.
XD=Love and Xiaose are both noobs
Their abilities aside, XD=Love is the most well known (and generally most well liked) commentator, and XiaoSe runs NeoTV. It's a matter of reputation here, since words that come out of their mouth are essentially equivalent to official position of NeoTV/PLU.
I hope this will prove to be some good advertisement for SC, the stage is big and finding possible investors/sponsors at the World Expo would most likely allow SC to survive SC2 very easily...
actually it could be a scheme by the korean air to sell tickets for starcraft fans to go to other countries to watch. not only they earn money off starcraft but airplane tickets too
I might be a bit off topic but I want to take Japanese boyband agent Johnny's as an example....It's all about business.
Johnny's have sent several popular boybands to hold concerts and fan meetings in Taiwan for years. How do they handle with domestic fans? They partner with tour agencies to form tour groups purely made up of loyal (plus rich) fans. Fans have to pay ridicilous amount of money to sign up for the tour compared to a normal 3 or 5-day trip to Taiawn. But they are willing to because some exclusive fan services are included in the tour package - separate meeting with boyband members, first served at signature meeting, front seats at concerts, etc..
I don't know either OGN or Korean Air has gone this far. But I won't be surpised if they finally bring the OSL final to Shanghai with an additional 737 or 747, full packed with crazy fangirls (or fanboys).
Whoah! teamliquid have to strengthen their bonds with china! is that wfbrood site also a community site? or is it more a company... maybe we should get some more cooperation going.
On August 14 2010 10:29 xxjondxx wrote: They should have had a few random pro league games in china seems dumb to randomly decide to host the osl finals there.
logistically impossible as teams would have to fly in and out on a five-day a week schedule.
이에 대해 OnGameNet 측은 “현재 구체적으로 결정된 것은 아무것도 없다”고 말한 뒤 “결정된 내용이 없기 때문에 공식적인 코멘트를 할 수 없는 상황”이라고 덧붙였다.
My personal take is that anything other than a straight-up denial leans in favor of supporting this as fact.
Agree. Especially because that rumor could make thousands of korean fans angry, OGN would definitely deny it straight-up if it wasn't true.
The only question that remains is if there has been a leak among OGN staff about this, how come it was published on chinese websites before korean blogs ? I assume the person responsible for the bookings of the Orient Tower spread the rumor.
On August 14 2010 00:11 EtherealDeath wrote: I think I recall Cambium doing some Mandarin -> English translations before on TL. I could be wrong though.
Yea way back in 2005, with Emlary, L2W and FireBlast!
On August 14 2010 21:58 hystorm wrote: why china? is there a big chinese audience for bw esports? I hope this means they will have the next OSL in LA or NY.
If you have saw the WCG final held in Chengdu, China, then you can got the answer! There might be thousands of fans who would like to go to Shanghai in order to watch the OSL final.
Wow, this is going to be soo intense. But if the korean commentators are going, even if they're enthusiastic, then won't understand korean right? But they're probably going to use BW as the universal language. PLAGUUUUUUUUUU Damn i can't wait.
On August 14 2010 23:43 Gao Xi wrote: Wow, this is going to be soo intense. But if the korean commentators are going, even if they're enthusiastic, then won't understand korean right? But they're probably going to use BW as the universal language. PLAGUUUUUUUUUU Damn i can't wait.
Another reason why this might happen could be the same as NATE MSL, where Flash and Jaedong were put in a separate room and only 700-1000 spectator could go watch it live in order to get more TV viewers.
I see some potential problems with this, the inside of the Oriental Pearl is TINY, theres no way it can hold a significant amount of people. ok so they hold the actual event in front of the tower in the open, but then one has to wonder what would happen if it starts pouring rain all of a sudden etc, and the urban layout in front of the tower isn't exactly ideal either, there are no long alleys where a giant screen can show the game to people standing way at the back etc [the surrounding area is mostly skyscrapers and elevated pedastrian walkways as far as I remember, so there's quite a bit of stuff to obstruct vision]. So unless they shutdown traffic at one of the main avenues leading towards the tower and use that as the site (in which case they would have to negotiate with the city itself), I don't see how the event can accommodate more than a couple thousand people at most.
yea i'm PRETTY SURE they're gonna host it aroudn the area and not right inside the tower. unless thyere planning to put only teh 2 dudes and camera crew inside lol.
On August 13 2010 21:36 GTR wrote: do you guys recognise how many turned up for wcg last year in chengdu? it was at least over 100,000. this is a noble experiment by ogn (if it is true indeed) to expand outside of korea, and china seems the most logical choice.
well said, people understandably have no understanding of strong chinese markets are. anyway, if this is held in shanghai i will go from beijingj. pm me if you wanna go too.
damn it: i'll be in korea during that time. and just this damn finals isn't in korea? i'm pretty glad that i'm going to be able to attend the MSL finals though.
If they host the live event in china and thousands of koreans turn up will they commentate in korean or chineese?
if its korean then whats the point of being in china and if its in chineese then thats an even bigger "fuck you" to the fans who flew all the way to china just for the finals.
mabye they will hand out like 200,000 headsets and do dual laungage commentaries.
On August 15 2010 23:37 killerdog wrote: If they host the live event in china and thousands of koreans turn up will they commentate in korean or chineese?
if its korean then whats the point of being in china and if its in chineese then thats an even bigger "fuck you" to the fans who flew all the way to china just for the finals.
mabye they will hand out like 200,000 headsets and do dual laungage commentaries.
It is no doubt that there will be dual laugage commentaries.
I don't think the fans that watch the finals live hears the commentaries that we hear when we watch VODs. They just hear the hype before and after the matches.
On August 16 2010 01:33 zenMaster wrote: I don't think the fans that watch the finals live hears the commentaries that we hear when we watch VODs. They just hear the hype before and after the matches.
On August 16 2010 01:33 zenMaster wrote: I don't think the fans that watch the finals live hears the commentaries that we hear when we watch VODs. They just hear the hype before and after the matches.
they do actually
If so then I would think they would do dual language for the hype and not sure what language for the commentaries.
On August 16 2010 01:33 zenMaster wrote: I don't think the fans that watch the finals live hears the commentaries that we hear when we watch VODs. They just hear the hype before and after the matches.
they do actually
If so then I would think they would do dual language for the hype and not sure what language for the commentaries.
Probably have both commentaries on the scene, but only broadcast Korean back on TV and broadcast the Chinese to the crowd, which will presumably be mostly Chinese. I believe that's how it worked for WCG.
On August 14 2010 02:39 iloahz wrote: China's esports potential is just huge, it takes some action and some luck to transform that potential into the real thing.
There is a big hall at the first floor, you can put a few thousand people in there. But if they could do it in Lujiazui park, or any open space that would be great.
Why not just organize something in China where they will show the finals live on a giant projector with good chinese commentators. Flying the finalists all the way to China, away from the country with their biggest and most loyal fanbase doesn't make any sense. This will just piss off those Korean fans and there's a good chance they will get a smaller audience than the last final.
Chinese fans are no joke. Besides WCG, other tournaments held in China, have had great turn outs in audience attendees. China's eSports scene is growing and their StarCraft is WarCraft 3. They even have televised WC3 matches sometimes from Neo TV. It may piss off Korean fans back home, but I don't think the audience will be small at all in China.
wow fantasy and Jaedong flying to Shanghai, that'd be awesome cause my Grandma lives there =D I could show her that StarCraft is famous world wide and she'd stop flaming me for playing everytime I go to her house xD
'ongamenet 결승관련 여러 안들이 논의중입니다. 현재 결정된 사안이없어 확답 드리기가 어렵지만, 확정되면 바로 트윗 슈우욱~보내겠습니다~ RT @supernovamaniac: @ognlive 스타리그 결승이 샹하이에서 한다는 말이 있는데사실인가요?'
Translation:
We have lot of possibilities for the finals right now, and we're discussing about every possibility. Right now, nothing's confirmed so it's hard for us to answer, but when it gets confirmed we'll tweet ASAP~ =)
So yes, it's not confirmed 100%. But it seems like it's a high possibility.
On August 16 2010 13:52 supernovamaniac wrote: Official response from ognlive twitter:
'ongamenet 결승관련 여러 안들이 논의중입니다. 현재 결정된 사안이없어 확답 드리기가 어렵지만, 확정되면 바로 트윗 슈우욱~보내겠습니다~ RT @supernovamaniac: @ognlive 스타리그 결승이 샹하이에서 한다는 말이 있는데사실인가요?'
Translation:
We have lot of possibilities for the finals right now, and we're discussing about every possibility. Right now, nothing's confirmed so it's hard for us to answer, but when it gets confirmed we'll tweet ASAP~ =)
So yes, it's not confirmed 100%. But it seems like it's a high possibility.
Again, saying "it's not confirmed" instead of saying "lol no" is really functionally equivalent to confirming it at this point :3
On August 16 2010 13:52 supernovamaniac wrote: Official response from ognlive twitter:
'ongamenet 결승관련 여러 안들이 논의중입니다. 현재 결정된 사안이없어 확답 드리기가 어렵지만, 확정되면 바로 트윗 슈우욱~보내겠습니다~ RT @supernovamaniac: @ognlive 스타리그 결승이 샹하이에서 한다는 말이 있는데사실인가요?'
Translation:
We have lot of possibilities for the finals right now, and we're discussing about every possibility. Right now, nothing's confirmed so it's hard for us to answer, but when it gets confirmed we'll tweet ASAP~ =)
So yes, it's not confirmed 100%. But it seems like it's a high possibility.
Again, saying "it's not confirmed" instead of saying "lol no" is really functionally equivalent to confirming it at this point :3
=3 I know, but I got a personal message back from ogn stating this, aka very reliable source for me atm
I hope the event is to be held in open space or in a big ass stadium, not like, on the top of the tower that can contain a maximum of two players and two cameramen. I also expect record turnout if two of Jaedong/Flash/Stork trio are amongst the finalists.
And you know what's the best part? Chinese audience don't mind screaming like real fans do during climaxes, unlike the more conservative Koreans. Enthusiastic reaction from the audience is a part of a spectator sport and last year's WCG proved the Chinese are pretty damn good at it.
Surely Korean Air stands to benefit from this. Part of its revenue must be coming from its Chinese division.
On August 20 2010 22:01 dukethegold wrote: I hope the event is to be held in open space or in a big ass stadium, not like, on the top of the tower that can contain a maximum of two players and two cameramen. I also expect record turnout if two of Jaedong/Flash/Stork trio are amongst the finalists.
And you know what's the best part? Chinese audience don't mind screaming like real fans do during climaxes, unlike the more conservative Koreans. Enthusiastic reaction from the audience is a part of a spectator sport and last year's WCG proved the Chinese are pretty damn good at it.
Surely Korean Air stands to benefit from this. Part of its revenue must be coming from its Chinese division.
People are asked to keep their voices down during matches due to problems in the past. MBCGame Hero Coach was complaining about this issue during Winnersleague/Round 4 this year when one of his players cheesed against Flash, and then Flash started looking for the proxied building after the audiences made some loud noises when they saw the cheese.
I'm guessing korean fans arnt to happy about this, although i think this is awesome for sc in general because sc in chinese will grow so much because of this
On August 20 2010 22:01 dukethegold wrote: I hope the event is to be held in open space or in a big ass stadium, not like, on the top of the tower that can contain a maximum of two players and two cameramen. I also expect record turnout if two of Jaedong/Flash/Stork trio are amongst the finalists.
And you know what's the best part? Chinese audience don't mind screaming like real fans do during climaxes, unlike the more conservative Koreans. Enthusiastic reaction from the audience is a part of a spectator sport and last year's WCG proved the Chinese are pretty damn good at it.
Surely Korean Air stands to benefit from this. Part of its revenue must be coming from its Chinese division.
People are asked to keep their voices down during matches due to problems in the past. MBCGame Hero Coach was complaining about this issue during Winnersleague/Round 4 this year when one of his players cheesed against Flash, and then Flash started looking for the proxied building after the audiences made some loud noises when they saw the cheese.
That got proven to be wrong after that game, the players are setup in enough soundproofing that it won't be a problem
On August 20 2010 23:08 Scaramanga wrote: That got proven to be wrong after that game, the players are setup in enough soundproofing that it won't be a problem
Yet the problem still gets raised few times throughout the year. No one can really prove that the problem exists due to player's settings and different hearing abilities.
Exists or not, however, they are asked to keep their voices down, afaik.
On August 20 2010 23:08 Scaramanga wrote: That got proven to be wrong after that game, the players are setup in enough soundproofing that it won't be a problem
Yet the problem still gets raised few times throughout the year. No one can really prove that the problem exists due to player's settings and different hearing abilities.
Exists or not, however, they are asked to keep their voices down, afaik.
Thats the only time i remember in the last two years of it being brought up, its not that hard to stop, at the time the coach was just frustrated at how awesome flash's sense is
On August 20 2010 23:08 Scaramanga wrote: That got proven to be wrong after that game, the players are setup in enough soundproofing that it won't be a problem
Yet the problem still gets raised few times throughout the year. No one can really prove that the problem exists due to player's settings and different hearing abilities.
Exists or not, however, they are asked to keep their voices down, afaik.
Thats the only time i remember in the last two years of it being brought up, its not that hard to stop, at the time the coach was just frustrated at how awesome flash's sense is
On August 20 2010 23:08 Scaramanga wrote: That got proven to be wrong after that game, the players are setup in enough soundproofing that it won't be a problem
Yet the problem still gets raised few times throughout the year. No one can really prove that the problem exists due to player's settings and different hearing abilities.
Exists or not, however, they are asked to keep their voices down, afaik.
Thats the only time i remember in the last two years of it being brought up, its not that hard to stop, at the time the coach was just frustrated at how awesome flash's sense is
So rare that they have the term "earhacking" for it and those two guys had to apologize for making a fuss about it because "everyone earhacks; it's part of progaming now."
On August 20 2010 22:01 dukethegold wrote: I hope the event is to be held in open space or in a big ass stadium, not like, on the top of the tower that can contain a maximum of two players and two cameramen. I also expect record turnout if two of Jaedong/Flash/Stork trio are amongst the finalists.
And you know what's the best part? Chinese audience don't mind screaming like real fans do during climaxes, unlike the more conservative Koreans. Enthusiastic reaction from the audience is a part of a spectator sport and last year's WCG proved the Chinese are pretty damn good at it.
Surely Korean Air stands to benefit from this. Part of its revenue must be coming from its Chinese division.
People are asked to keep their voices down during matches due to problems in the past. MBCGame Hero Coach was complaining about this issue during Winnersleague/Round 4 this year when one of his players cheesed against Flash, and then Flash started looking for the proxied building after the audiences made some loud noises when they saw the cheese.
That was bullshit and can be seen in the replay. Flash was scouting the bottom area by 6 for proxies long before the obs moved there (which led to the audience's reaction). It was very convenient that Light didn't think it worth mentioning during the game (or any of the previous MBC players during that evening, who if Light was right, all had a large advantage from their 'flawed' booth).
There was however an incident in 2008 (again Light vs Flash) where Flash saw the audience waving (not heard). That was before MBC had raised booths though iirc.
Seriously, this is like hosting GSL offline qualifiers in Las Vegas, which everyone - hopefully - will agree is crap move.
Below: because I consider both to be illogical move as the events hosted should be focused on the home ground, but yeah, the sentence is also heavily dosed with my esoteric sense of humor.
On August 21 2010 09:38 Hesmyrr wrote: Seriously, this is like hosting GSL offline qualifiers in Las Vegas, which everyone - hopefully - will agree is crap move.
It's the right move. Broodwar is plenty saturated in Korea. OGN doesn't need a lot of Korean fans to fly out, plenty of folks in China will probably fly to Shanghai to see it if they aren't there already. They could just do a "OSL special flight pack or whatever.
This could easily be the biggest esports final ever. If the final 2 are S-class players it could be a record that'll stand for years and years. The ground will quake from all the cheers.
On August 20 2010 22:01 dukethegold wrote: I hope the event is to be held in open space or in a big ass stadium, not like, on the top of the tower that can contain a maximum of two players and two cameramen. I also expect record turnout if two of Jaedong/Flash/Stork trio are amongst the finalists.
And you know what's the best part? Chinese audience don't mind screaming like real fans do during climaxes, unlike the more conservative Koreans. Enthusiastic reaction from the audience is a part of a spectator sport and last year's WCG proved the Chinese are pretty damn good at it.
Surely Korean Air stands to benefit from this. Part of its revenue must be coming from its Chinese division.
People are asked to keep their voices down during matches due to problems in the past. MBCGame Hero Coach was complaining about this issue during Winnersleague/Round 4 this year when one of his players cheesed against Flash, and then Flash started looking for the proxied building after the audiences made some loud noises when they saw the cheese.
That was bullshit and can be seen in the replay. Flash was scouting the bottom area by 6 for proxies long before the obs moved there (which led to the audience's reaction). It was very convenient that Light didn't think it worth mentioning during the game (or any of the previous MBC players during that evening, who if Light was right, all had a large advantage from their 'flawed' booth).
There was however an incident in 2008 (again Light vs Flash) where Flash saw the audience waving (not heard). That was before MBC had raised booths though iirc.
KeSPA and Flash called it bullshit, but the problem was raised yet again.
The fact was, and still is, the question was raised, KeSPA re-stated that they ask the audiences to be quiet during the matches (works out 100% of the time eh?), and that possibly results in audiences being more quiet.
looks like netizens are split between being happy for growth of SC ("OFMG MORE THAN 100,000 SPECTATORS GOGO") and disappointment ("how the fuck are the commentators going to commentate in CHINESE?")
On August 21 2010 10:54 konadora wrote: looks like netizens are split between being happy for growth of SC ("OFMG MORE THAN 100,000 SPECTATORS GOGO") and disappointment ("how the fuck are the commentators going to commentate in CHINESE?")
On August 21 2010 10:54 konadora wrote: looks like netizens are split between being happy for growth of SC ("OFMG MORE THAN 100,000 SPECTATORS GOGO") and disappointment ("how the fuck are the commentators going to commentate in CHINESE?")
also
WCG: Los Angeles OSL: Shangai MSL: Yeoido Park
lol
lol so mean to MSL ! w/e yeoido park is stll a cool venue right? D:
How much of a live audience can the TV tower venue accommodate? If it's not that many I think it's a poor choice, reminds me of MSL's virtual studio, where fans couldn't watch live.
To expand the Chinese audience for OSL (and pro BW), I think it's a reasonable promotional move, but if there's no large crowd of Chinese fans, then the only benefit of hosting it in the Tower is simply PR in China. I wonder how much the Chinese broadcasting partner paid, though.
from what I read, there will be at least 1000 tickets. 300 people will be sitting. at least another 700 will be standing. but the area can hold lot more people, so more people without tickets should show up, they are just not in a good spot to watch the game.
300 seats for the OSL final?!?!?! This has got to be the smallest final ever!
Where did you get that info from?
They're holding it outdoors lol
wfbrood It's outdoor, but the shanghai expo is right outside. So no seats there. Not sure how many can stand. Even as someone mentioned 700 standing. That's still a very small final
On September 03 2010 06:42 iloahz wrote: from what I read, there will be at least 1000 tickets. 300 people will be sitting. at least another 700 will be standing. but the area can hold lot more people, so more people without tickets should show up, they are just not in a good spot to watch the game.
lol wtf are you serious
what the fuck. That's terrible. I wonder how the Korean fans will think
"So instead of showing us massive numbers of chinese fans... we see 1000. You ditched us for THIS?"
On September 03 2010 06:42 iloahz wrote: from what I read, there will be at least 1000 tickets. 300 people will be sitting. at least another 700 will be standing. but the area can hold lot more people, so more people without tickets should show up, they are just not in a good spot to watch the game.
lol wtf are you serious
what the fuck. That's terrible. I wonder how the Korean fans will think
"So instead of showing us massive numbers of chinese fans... we see 1000. You ditched us for THIS?"
gg
We shouldn't jump to conclusions just yet, I have a feeling china won't disappoint. They have a lot riding on this, and its win-win for both parties for this final to be done as great as possible.
Um, everything I've read so far points to 300 tickets for seats, and some standing room, which can't be more than like 1000.
So yeah, all signs so far points to this being totally retarded. Fucking Chinese people -___-
Edit: Basically the reason people are speculating is that OGN really wanted it at the Oriental Pearl + World Expo, good for advertisement, but the World Expo management is strict as hell and it's impossible to get any kind of sizable event going there unless you're directly related to the government =\
Edit2: Also concerns involve 9/11 date + planes being involved. I blame SKT1 for this, if they weren't such pussies about the group selection we wouldn't have had this on 9/11 -___-
That sounds very strange. When they said Shanghai pearl tower, I asssume it was outdoors just next to the Tower which is a very popular place for big concerts. (there was the Live Earth concert in 2007, and some others).
See by yourself on the video, that's where a lot of big concerts take place in Shanghai, and it's just below the Pearl Tower. It will also be dark already when the OSL will start, so it's gonna look great with all the lighted up skyscrapers. Only the really huge concerts that need 70k seats take place in Shanghai stadium.
edit : we see very well on this video as well
Moving the OSL finals for 1000 people doesn't make any sense. Has anyone found a trustworthy source for this info ?
On September 03 2010 09:11 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: Um, everything I've read so far points to 300 tickets for seats, and some standing room, which can't be more than like 1000.
So yeah, all signs so far points to this being totally retarded. Fucking Chinese people -___-
Edit: Basically the reason people are speculating is that OGN really wanted it at the Oriental Pearl + World Expo, good for advertisement, but the World Expo management is strict as hell and it's impossible to get any kind of sizable event going there unless you're directly related to the government =\
Edit2: Also concerns involve 9/11 date + planes being involved. I blame SKT1 for this, if they weren't such pussies about the group selection we wouldn't have had this on 9/11 -___-
On September 03 2010 18:11 endy wrote: That sounds very strange. When they said Shanghai pearl tower, I asssume it was outdoors just next to the Tower which is a very popular place for big concerts. (there was the Live Earth concert in 2007, and some others).
See by yourself on the video, that's where a lot of big concerts take place in Shanghai, and it's just below the Pearl Tower. It will also be dark already when the OSL will start, so it's gonna look great with all the lighted up skyscrapers. Only the really huge concerts that need 70k seats take place in Shanghai stadium.
Moving the OSL finals for 1000 people doesn't make any sense. Has anyone found a trustworthy source for this info ?
That's about where they're holding it, but for "security reasons," they're only allocating 300 seats + 200 reserved seats of official tickets with ~1000 standing room around on the steps just for people at the expo if nothing happens. Security or management or whatever reserve the right at any time to dissipate people.
SiTV/PLU stresses that it's at OGN/Korean Air's insistence that this is where it will be held lol. Apparently they proposed many much bigger venues and were all shot down. They really wanted Oriental Pearl I guess.
On September 03 2010 20:09 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: That's about where they're holding it, but for "security reasons," they're only allocating 300 seats + 200 reserved seats of official tickets with ~1000 standing room around on the steps just for people at the expo if nothing happens. Security or management or whatever reserve the right at any time to dissipate people.
SiTV/PLU stresses that it's at OGN/Korean Air's insistence that this is where it will be held lol. Apparently they proposed many much bigger venues and were all shot down. They really wanted Oriental Pearl I guess.
What do you mean by "with ~1000 standing room around on the steps just for people at the expo if nothing happens" ? The expo site is 4 kilometers from the Pearl tower.
On September 03 2010 20:09 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: That's about where they're holding it, but for "security reasons," they're only allocating 300 seats + 200 reserved seats of official tickets with ~1000 standing room around on the steps just for people at the expo if nothing happens. Security or management or whatever reserve the right at any time to dissipate people.
SiTV/PLU stresses that it's at OGN/Korean Air's insistence that this is where it will be held lol. Apparently they proposed many much bigger venues and were all shot down. They really wanted Oriental Pearl I guess.
What do you mean by "with ~1000 standing room around on the steps just for people at the expo if nothing happens" ? The expo site is 4 kilometers from the Pearl tower.
Err I meant to have the tower, sorry about tha. Dunno why I thought expo, probably cause of the recent STX event. Basically you just buy a ticket to the tower grounds and you go stand around the screen when the game starts.
On September 03 2010 20:09 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: That's about where they're holding it, but for "security reasons," they're only allocating 300 seats + 200 reserved seats of official tickets with ~1000 standing room around on the steps just for people at the expo if nothing happens. Security or management or whatever reserve the right at any time to dissipate people.
SiTV/PLU stresses that it's at OGN/Korean Air's insistence that this is where it will be held lol. Apparently they proposed many much bigger venues and were all shot down. They really wanted Oriental Pearl I guess.
What do you mean by "with ~1000 standing room around on the steps just for people at the expo if nothing happens" ? The expo site is 4 kilometers from the Pearl tower.
Err I meant to have the tower, sorry about tha. Dunno why I thought expo, probably cause of the recent STX event. Basically you just buy a ticket to the tower grounds and you go stand around the screen when the game starts.
Okay, thanks for the clarification !
It sucks though. You have to pay tickets but you can't even book them if they are just the regular tickets to the tower
The only good thing is that if there are only ~1000 people watching, I'll have more chance to sneak up to the players.
I'm trying to get a seat to this event through my school's Korean Student Union. Just knew about it yesterday(since I was in Japan for the last 2 weeks). This will be huge!! And for people that worry about the number of spectators. Dont!. There are hundreds of thousand of Korean here in Shanghai. In my college alone there are about 1000 Korean students!!!!
Um, everything I've read so far points to 300 tickets for seats, and some standing room, which can't be more than like 1000.
So yeah, all signs so far points to this being totally retarded. Fucking Chinese people -___-
Edit: Basically the reason people are speculating is that OGN really wanted it at the Oriental Pearl + World Expo, good for advertisement, but the World Expo management is strict as hell and it's impossible to get any kind of sizable event going there unless you're directly related to the government =\
Edit2: Also concerns involve 9/11 date + planes being involved. I blame SKT1 for this, if they weren't such pussies about the group selection we wouldn't have had this on 9/11 -___-
well fantasy isn't playing so nothing to worry about
Um, everything I've read so far points to 300 tickets for seats, and some standing room, which can't be more than like 1000.
So yeah, all signs so far points to this being totally retarded. Fucking Chinese people -___-
Edit: Basically the reason people are speculating is that OGN really wanted it at the Oriental Pearl + World Expo, good for advertisement, but the World Expo management is strict as hell and it's impossible to get any kind of sizable event going there unless you're directly related to the government =\
Edit2: Also concerns involve 9/11 date + planes being involved. I blame SKT1 for this, if they weren't such pussies about the group selection we wouldn't have had this on 9/11 -___-
well fantasy isn't playing so nothing to worry about
All the more reason to be concerned. He probably has something else planned.
if there's only place for so little peoplei doubt being in shanghai is gonna do much good ;( damnit i rly wanna see it, but with only 1k ppl i guess it will be damn hard T_T
I'm planning to go (I'm in Beijing right now). The informations in this thread are sometimes conflicting, where do you buy tickets? Are they standard "Tower grounds" tickets like said earlier? That sounds strange because if so why would they give you a souvenir usb drive? More info needed please and if some other tlnetters go there from Beijing too let me know!
Edit: fuuuu I left my passport at the university so I can't take the plane, I'll have to go by train - can any chinese here confirm that you don't need to show your visa to take the train? :/
i can, about a year ago i went beijing - shanghai and iddnt need my passport....
although with the expo going on regulations MIGHT have changed... a few weeks ago i went qingdao - shanghai and didn't need my passport... a few months ago i went from hangzhou to shanghai and did need my passport, so i guess it's not really consistent.
I think you should be ok though...
About the tickets, I too have no idea, but Endy and me will most probably go there tomorrow to see if we can get in. If you wanna meet up with us send me a PM
On September 10 2010 21:35 Kaolla wrote: About the tickets, I too have no idea, but Endy and me will most probably go there tomorrow to see if we can get in. If you wanna meet up with us send me a PM
All trains to Shanghai were full so I'm screwed. Hope you guys manage to make it in and enjoy the games.
On September 10 2010 16:01 Matoo- wrote: I'm planning to go (I'm in Beijing right now). The informations in this thread are sometimes conflicting, where do you buy tickets? Are they standard "Tower grounds" tickets like said earlier? That sounds strange because if so why would they give you a souvenir usb drive? More info needed please and if some other tlnetters go there from Beijing too let me know!
Edit: fuuuu I left my passport at the university so I can't take the plane, I'll have to go by train - can any chinese here confirm that you don't need to show your visa to take the train? :/
On August 21 2010 00:11 Empyrean wrote: Haha, this is a great way for Korean Air to gain some marketshare in China.
>_>
Still very excited though :D
Came to the same conclusion. Very smart of Korean Air to make this move. They get alot of Chinese publicity for holding it in Shanghai and I would guess their Shangai-Seoul route is one of their higher volume international routes.
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RT @supernovamaniac: @ognlive 스타리그 결승이 샹하이에서 한다는 말이 있는데사실인가요?'![[image loading]](http://i35.tinypic.com/muafzq.jpg)
