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Shaoling
Sweden344 Posts
I am wondering if an S-class player(Flash and Jaedong now, Nada when he was bonjwa. You get the drill) has ever been traded from one team to another? And i am not counting x -> Air force Ace. If not, has anyone atleast near S-Class, like fantasy at the moment, ever been traded? PS. I mean of course when the players were in their prime. | ||
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JadeFist
United States1225 Posts
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TonyL2
England1953 Posts
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synapse
China13814 Posts
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Brad
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ilbh
Brazil1606 Posts
forGG from OZ to KT luxury from sparkyz to KT puma from eSTRO to sparkyz suny from eSTRO to KT kwanro from CJ to stars that is all I can remember now edit: fixed | ||
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sixfour
England11061 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + not really | ||
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TonyL2
England1953 Posts
Not sure if they were all traded to them, but yea, they were all pretty immense <3 Mantoss | ||
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SkytoM
Austria1137 Posts
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Nick_54
United States2230 Posts
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Creationism
China505 Posts
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MangoTango
United States3670 Posts
 But not in that way. | ||
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Shaoling
Sweden344 Posts
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prosatan
Romania7996 Posts
Also , forGG and Luxury were important , but they are not S class players | ||
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Shaoling
Sweden344 Posts
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]343[
United States10328 Posts
On August 10 2010 00:38 ilbh wrote: bisu was traded from MBC to SKT1 forGG from OZ to KT luxury from sparkyz to KT puma from eSTRO to sparkyz suny from eSTRO to KT kwanro from CJ to stars that is all I can remember now fixed lol trades of good players aren't all too common I guess I suppose KTF bought nal_ra, yellow, nada, reach, chojja, goodfriend, sync though LOL | ||
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Nal_rAwr
United States2611 Posts
On August 10 2010 00:38 ilbh wrote: bisu was traded from MBC to SKT1 forGG from OZ to KT luxury from stars to KT puma from eSTRO to sparkyz suny from eSTRO to KT kwanro from CJ to stars that is all I can remember now with the exception of bisu, the rest on the list are nowhere half as near to S-class S-class is like top 10 dude | ||
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Roffles
Pitcairn19291 Posts
At the time he was consistently making semifinals and if not, he was getting bounced by the best players at the time (Stork, Flash). He wasn't THE best at the time (I'd rank Stork at that time over Bisu), but he was pretty damn close to it. | ||
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konadora
Singapore66158 Posts
On August 10 2010 00:38 ilbh wrote: bisu was traded from MBC to SKT1 forGG from OZ to KT luxury from stars to KT puma from eSTRO to sparkyz suny from eSTRO to KT kwanro from CJ to stars that is all I can remember now lol everyone here except for bisu is/was a joke | ||
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nuke_rush
Hong Kong126 Posts
edit: yay new icons for translators! | ||
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Roffles
Pitcairn19291 Posts
On August 10 2010 01:25 nuke_rush wrote: Luxury was owning at the time and was considered to be the next big thing. His trade to KT was meant to seriously boost the team. He was near S-class at the time, winning a starleague and owning the proleague. fOrGG was off a starleague win as well, and was a 'second ace' before getting traded due to the fail that is Oz. And since when was Puma good? edit: yay new icons for translators! One starleague win over a guy who can't PvZ to save his life isn't even close to being S class. Lux couldn't take a game off Bisu, Flash, or JD at the time (Except for when he 5 pools Bisu on Troy). You can't consider that S class at all. Hell, even Calm won a Starleague. Was he even close to S class at the time? No, not at all. You can't be S class if you can't take a game off the real S class. | ||
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Trowabarton756
United States870 Posts
On August 10 2010 01:32 Roffles wrote: One starleague win over a guy who can't PvZ to save his life isn't even close to being S class. Lux couldn't take a game off Bisu, Flash, or JD at the time (Except for when he 5 pools Bisu on Troy). You can't consider that S class at all. Hell, even Calm won a Starleague. Was he even close to S class at the time? No, not at all. You can't be S class if you can't take a game off the real S class. does that mean that hyuk is S class cause he took 2 games off jaedong? | ||
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Katsuge
Singapore7730 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + but keep on losing please :3 | ||
alffla
Hong Kong20321 Posts
On August 10 2010 01:32 Roffles wrote: One starleague win over a guy who can't PvZ to save his life isn't even close to being S class. Lux couldn't take a game off Bisu, Flash, or JD at the time (Except for when he 5 pools Bisu on Troy). You can't consider that S class at all. Hell, even Calm won a Starleague. Was he even close to S class at the time? No, not at all. You can't be S class if you can't take a game off the real S class. i rmember luxury owning flash in ever08.. haha | ||
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r33k
Italy3402 Posts
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Roffles
Pitcairn19291 Posts
On August 10 2010 01:35 Trowabarton756 wrote: does that mean that hyuk is S class cause he took 2 games off jaedong? Obviously. Hyuk's #1 right? But yeah, the guy got a very favorable draw in Lost Saga against Hwasin (probably the toughest), Zero (Couldn't ZvZ to save his life), and Jangbi. Lux was always pretty good at ZvZ (Probably 2nd best behind JD at the time), and always had decent ZvT thanks to 2 hatch mutas and some sick muta control. His ZvP was always questionable though, but good enough to beat Jangbi. But to the guy above, nah, July doesn't count. He was on POS (Piece of Shit/Pirates of Space whatever you wanna call it), which eventually turned to MBCGame Hero. | ||
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pvzvt
Israel2097 Posts
On August 10 2010 01:32 Roffles wrote: One starleague win over a guy who can't PvZ to save his life isn't even close to being S class. Lux couldn't take a game off Bisu, Flash, or JD at the time (Except for when he 5 pools Bisu on Troy). You can't consider that S class at all. Hell, even Calm won a Starleague. Was he even close to S class at the time? No, not at all. You can't be S class if you can't take a game off the real S class. acctually the thing that made luxury a dangerous player is him being inconsistent and at that time no one knew to zvz a side him and jaedong (talking at the time of 2008) and he did took flash out of 2-0 in batoo osl only to lose 3-2 to best . he's just too inconsistent he can win 2-0 flash (who was at his 1st prime u can even argue that it was the 2-0 that caused the first slump). but lose to a mediocre player after (not that best was mediocre at that time). luxury at certain times was S class and certain times b- (building the pattern so selling games wouldn't seem so transparent i guess) | ||
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Aim Here
Scotland672 Posts
He's no less S-class than some of the names mentioned... | ||
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dukethegold
Canada5645 Posts
On August 10 2010 01:44 r33k wrote: July to MBC? Does that count? He was still decent when he was there... You mean July to SKT? July was raised in MBC you know. And no, when he transferred to SKT and later to STX, he was no longer at the top, except his ZvP. Bisu is the biggest sale. He was expensive and it paid off. ForGG and Luxury to KT also deserve mentions. Both were at their peak, playing like S-class candidates, and then slumped into mediocre after being purchased. According to TLPD, Nada was on KT before moving to WeMade. He is known for his consistency. I wonder if his transfer counted. | ||
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Roffles
Pitcairn19291 Posts
On August 10 2010 01:52 pvzvt wrote: acctually the thing that made luxury a dangerous player is him being inconsistent and at that time no one knew to zvz a side him and jaedong (talking at the time of 2008) and he did took flash out of 2-0 in batoo osl only to lose 3-2 to best . he's just too inconsistent he can win 2-0 flash (who was at his 1st prime u can even argue that it was the 2-0 that caused the first slump). but lose to a mediocre player after (not that best was mediocre at that time). luxury at certain times was S class and certain times b- (building the pattern so selling games wouldn't seem so transparent i guess) Truth in that. Some games Lux looked completely dominant, but other games like his games vs Best just make me go, "What the hell are you doing?" Well first off, if you can't beat Best at ZvP, then you clearly have some issues. Also, inconsistency doesn't make you S class overall. Every player can show flashes of brilliance. Like someone mentioned above, even Hyuk looked good against JD a couple of times. | ||
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Musoeun
United States4324 Posts
On August 10 2010 01:46 Roffles wrote: Obviously. Hyuk's #1 right? But yeah, the guy got a very favorable draw in Lost Saga against Hwasin (probably the toughest), Zero (Couldn't ZvZ to save his life), and Jangbi. Lux was always pretty good at ZvZ (Probably 2nd best behind JD at the time), and always had decent ZvT thanks to 2 hatch mutas and some sick muta control. His ZvP was always questionable though, but good enough to beat Jangbi. But to the guy above, nah, July doesn't count. He was on POS (Piece of Shit/Pirates of Space whatever you wanna call it), which eventually turned to MBCGame Hero. Didn't Lux beat Leta and Flash on that run too? Leta I'm sure about, Flash nsm. | ||
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QuickStriker
United States3694 Posts
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yeti
United States258 Posts
 July was the best player to be traded. (only golden mouse)He even won the golden mouse after joining STX I believe his trades were MBC—>SKT—>STX | ||
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Fionn
United States23455 Posts
Leta moving would be the biggest FA move since Bisu to SKT1. | ||
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Roffles
Pitcairn19291 Posts
On August 10 2010 02:06 yeti wrote: July was the best player to be traded. (only golden mouse)He even won the golden mouse after joining STX I believe his trades were MBC—>SKT—>STX While July's the most decorated (Bisu has 3 MSLs too but ehh), when he was traded, his ZvT and ZvZ were already outmatched by most great players. His third OSL run was probably one of the easiest, thanks to him meeting up with Backho and Best (PvZ duncebuckets). | ||
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pvzvt
Israel2097 Posts
On August 10 2010 02:02 Musoeun wrote: Didn't Lux beat Leta and Flash on that run too? Leta I'm sure about, Flash nsm. well leta lost to him on the msl cant rem if the r of 8 or r of 4 but i do rem leta being the better player and luxury taking him out with ruse all his games were either comebacks or trickery or 4 pool lol god i love luxury i think on the 4th set when he made a huge comeback it was the only time i heard diggity, a very quiet and humble commentator, to shout "this is incredible" and indeed it was lol. after leta there was no real threat a side stork maybe that lost to jangbi in the semi flash lost to leta and bisu and jaedong never reached the r 16 | ||
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dukethegold
Canada5645 Posts
On August 10 2010 02:02 Musoeun wrote: Didn't Lux beat Leta and Flash on that run too? Leta I'm sure about, Flash nsm. Luxury defeated Leta with a 4 pool and tricky play if I remember correctly. Leta was hailed as the son of the god at the time. A tournament favorite. I really doubt Luxury's ability to defeat Leta straight up. Don't forget that July met Rock, along with Backho and Best in his final OSL run. It's criminally negligent to dismiss Rock's contributions to other people's careers. | ||
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MangoTango
United States3670 Posts
On August 10 2010 01:53 Aim Here wrote: Idra from eSTRO to CJ? He's no less S-class than some of the names mentioned... Yeah, because Idra totally has proleague appearances right? | ||
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Nal_rAwr
United States2611 Posts
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hypercube
Hungary2735 Posts
On August 10 2010 01:59 Roffles wrote: Truth in that. Some games Lux looked completely dominant, but other games like his games vs Best just make me go, "What the hell are you doing?" Well first off, if you can't beat Best at ZvP, then you clearly have some issues. Also, inconsistency doesn't make you S class overall. Every player can show flashes of brilliance. Like someone mentioned above, even Hyuk looked good against JD a couple of times. Would you consider forGG or Calm to be S-class for winning a starleague? How about someone like Sea or Leta who consistently perform well in Proleague but had no success in individual leagues? There are a lot of reasonable criteria we could come up with, like some recent success in individual leagues, good performance in the proleague, no really weak matchups, not in a horrible slump at the moment, etc. But if you try to apply all of these you're left with Flash, Jaedong and maybe Fantasy, Effort or Stork. | ||
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Ikonn
Netherlands1958 Posts
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SubtleArt
2710 Posts
On August 10 2010 01:25 konadora wrote: lol everyone here except for bisu is/was a joke Huh? ForGG was and is above average (he won a starleague....against the dong himself), luxury was the 2nd best zerg for a few months with unbeatable ZvP, and Kwanro is another above average player. If there guys are jokes then the only people that are "good" must be jaedong and flash now | ||
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Nal_rAwr
United States2611 Posts
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Roffles
Pitcairn19291 Posts
On August 10 2010 02:29 hypercube wrote: Would you consider forGG or Calm to be S-class for winning a starleague? How about someone like Sea or Leta who consistently perform well in Proleague but had no success in individual leagues? There are a lot of reasonable criteria we could come up with, like some recent success in individual leagues, good performance in the proleague, no really weak matchups, not in a horrible slump at the moment, etc. But if you try to apply all of these you're left with Flash, Jaedong and maybe Fantasy, Effort or Stork. Isn't that what S class is all about? Being better than the rest? It only makes sense if you have only Flash/JD and maybe a couple more. Otherwise you get like a ton of S class players... | ||
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newvsoldschool
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SimonB
United States1088 Posts
He, Jangbi, and maybe Best and Leta all fall into the same category to me. They had their periods of S-class, but they couldn't sustain it for long enough. | ||
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MorningMusume11
United States3490 Posts
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Last Romantic
United States20661 Posts
Nal_rA from GO to KTF YellOw from KTF to Toona and back NaDa from KTF to Toona Reach from Hanbit to KTF iloveoov almost transferred to KTF from SKT (lol!) | ||
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Grebliv
Iceland800 Posts
On August 10 2010 01:35 Trowabarton756 wrote: does that mean that hyuk is S class cause he took 2 games off jaedong? It's jaedong that became S class from having the honor of losing to hyuk! | ||
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Too_MuchZerg
Finland2818 Posts
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pvzvt
Israel2097 Posts
On August 10 2010 03:27 Grebliv wrote: It's jaedong that became S class from having the honor of losing to hyuk! same one that lost to this and i quote "I decided to attack. I did so hoping to do some damage but the game just ended. " | ||
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Deleted User 31060
3788 Posts
On August 10 2010 02:14 Roffles wrote: While July's the most decorated (Bisu has 3 MSLs too but ehh), when he was traded, his ZvT and ZvZ were already outmatched by most great players. His third OSL run was probably one of the easiest, thanks to him meeting up with Backho and Best (PvZ duncebuckets). HOLD IT Didn't he play ROCK and Backho? How on earth can you say that they are both PvZ duncebuckets? BOTH OF THEM HAVE WINNING RECORDS AGAINST JAEDONG ON TELEVISED MATCHES. I'll say it again. BOTH OF THEM HAVE WINNING RECORDS AGAINST JAEDONG ON TELEVISED MATCHES. July lost only ONE game in that OSL that meant anything (A group round loss after he qualified doesn't count). And that was to Backho. Heck, he even beat Best after a failed 4 (5?) pool! Following that OSL, he was one of the only zergs still kicking in the scene, in addition to Jaedong and Luxury. None of the zergs were having any luck with ZvT. Don't believe me? Check old power ranks. If that isn't S-Class, I don't know what is. All revitalized shortly after his SKT -> STX trade. | ||
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HwangjaeTerran
Finland5967 Posts
On August 10 2010 03:57 Sunyveil wrote: HOLD IT Didn't he play ROCK and Backho? How on earth can you say that they are both PvZ duncebuckets? BOTH OF THEM HAVE WINNING RECORDS AGAINST JAEDONG ON TELEVISED MATCHES. I'll say it again. BOTH OF THEM HAVE WINNING RECORDS AGAINST JAEDONG ON TELEVISED MATCHES. July lost only ONE game in that OSL that meant anything (A group round loss after he qualified doesn't count). And that was to Backho. Heck, he even beat Best after a failed 4 (5?) pool! Following that OSL, he was one of the only zergs still kicking in the scene, in addition to Jaedong and Luxury. None of the zergs were having any luck with ZvT. Don't believe me? Check old power ranks. If that isn't S-Class, I don't know what is. All revitalized shortly after his SKT -> STX trade. Yup but July still wouldn´t be S-class, more like L or XL IMO + Show Spoiler + joke | ||
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sushiman
Sweden2691 Posts
On August 10 2010 03:57 Sunyveil wrote: HOLD IT Didn't he play ROCK and Backho? How on earth can you say that they are both PvZ duncebuckets? BOTH OF THEM HAVE WINNING RECORDS AGAINST JAEDONG ON TELEVISED MATCHES. I'll say it again. BOTH OF THEM HAVE WINNING RECORDS AGAINST JAEDONG ON TELEVISED MATCHES. July lost only ONE game in that OSL that meant anything (A group round loss after he qualified doesn't count). And that was to Backho. Heck, he even beat Best after a failed 4 (5?) pool! Following that OSL, he was one of the only zergs still kicking in the scene, in addition to Jaedong and Luxury. None of the zergs were having any luck with ZvT. Don't believe me? Check old power ranks. If that isn't S-Class, I don't know what is. All revitalized shortly after his SKT -> STX trade. What? Julys OSL-run was probably the easiest in the history of SC. Meeting three absolutely horrible PvZ players, two being relative newcomers to the scene, in the only matchup he was good in at the time was probably the biggest stroke of luck ever. Afterwards he didn't really do anything either - I'd say he ranked below JD, lux, yarnc and even kwanro back then. | ||
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Zona
40426 Posts
On August 10 2010 03:17 Last Romantic wrote: GoRush from GO to SKT Nal_rA from GO to KTF YellOw from KTF to Toona and back NaDa from KTF to Toona Reach from Hanbit to KTF iloveoov almost transferred to KTF from SKT (lol!) Were the GO->x transfers really sales? I don't think the situation was exactly the same. But yeah, those team changes are at the very least comparable to Bisu's transfer...not that many people seem to remember. | ||
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~chut~
France1317 Posts
On August 10 2010 03:17 Last Romantic wrote: GoRush from GO to SKT Nal_rA from GO to KTF YellOw from KTF to Toona and back NaDa from KTF to Toona Reach from Hanbit to KTF iloveoov almost transferred to KTF from SKT (lol!) I was about to come up with this. Transfering your best players would happen a lot more often at the time as GO didn't have money while KTF or Toona were rich. Nowadays, You could add Goodfriend from Pantech to KTF, even though someone already mentionned it, GF was suppposed to be Nada's heir when this happened. And this argument about "what's an S class" is pretty stupid. I think it's pretty easy to say that Luxury going to KTF was a pretty big deal. Everyone hyped the twins at that time and, even if it was against Jangbi, Luxury managed to honor the hopes that were put in him. He was a very good player. | ||
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vx70GTOJudgexv
United States3161 Posts
On August 10 2010 01:25 konadora wrote: lol everyone here except for bisu is/was a joke I thought the Luxury move was a sorta-big deal because he was pretty much the ace for Sparkyz at the time, no? He was a total fail right after, but he was OGN's go-to guy at the time they moved him. But yeah, the rest were lolz when they moved. | ||
moopie
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anch
United States5457 Posts
is that S-class enough? the mentionable trades were Luxury and Bisu, they were their previous ace. OGN and MBC had to work to get a new ace. | ||
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dukethegold
Canada5645 Posts
I dunno what the heck was involved in Kwanro's transfer to Stars. The rumors indicate that he was sold for a bag of rice. Luxury and ForGG were big deals though. Wasn't ForGG even considered as the best Terran by some around his Arena conquest? | ||
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TheNessman
United States4158 Posts
He is 60% plus is 3 of the 4 matchups. thats S class. | ||
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dani_caliKorea
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dani_caliKorea
730 Posts
On August 10 2010 06:47 TheNessman wrote: Leta is ABOUT to be traded. People will see that he is S class once he is on a team that doesn't actually suck. He is 60% plus is 3 of the 4 matchups. thats S class. 3 of the 4...?? | ||
FakeSteve[TPR]
Valhalla18444 Posts
nal_ra from suma GO to ktf reach from hanbitstars to ktf | ||
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FakeSteve[TPR]
Valhalla18444 Posts
On August 10 2010 06:47 TheNessman wrote: Leta is ABOUT to be traded. People will see that he is S class once he is on a team that doesn't actually suck. He is 60% plus is 3 of the 4 matchups. thats S class. leta is garbage and always will be | ||
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MageKirby
United States535 Posts
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FakeSteve[TPR]
Valhalla18444 Posts
On August 10 2010 07:18 MageKirby wrote: did July move from somewhere? I think mbc to stx mbc -> skt t1 -> stx only stayed on t1 for a couple months | ||
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Sprouter
United States1724 Posts
On August 10 2010 06:47 TheNessman wrote: Leta doesn't have anything to show for it despite his strong PL play.Leta is ABOUT to be traded. People will see that he is S class once he is on a team that doesn't actually suck. He is 60% plus is 3 of the 4 matchups. thats S class. | ||
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jyLee
United States350 Posts
On August 10 2010 00:38 ilbh wrote: bisu was traded from MBC to SKT1 forGG from OZ to KT luxury from stars to KT puma from eSTRO to sparkyz suny from eSTRO to KT kwanro from CJ to stars that is all I can remember now Dude he said S-class not Shit class. | ||
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O-ops
United States4236 Posts
On August 10 2010 07:23 hystorm wrote: Leta doesn't have anything to show for it despite his strong PL play. Hard to prepare for proleague when you have both captain and ace responsibilities to a team that currently has 2 good players (including the ace). Leta has outgrown his gimmicky bs into a solid player, and it seems like he doesn't receive much love because he has to carry a team that doesn't really go anywhere for some time now because of the match-fixing and didn't get far in proleague because he has to carry said team. The guy ain't S-class, but he should receive more recognition. | ||
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lokiM
United States3407 Posts
On August 10 2010 00:37 synapse wrote: Bisu went from MBC to SKT a pretty long time ago, don't know if you would consider him "at his prime" at the time. rofl are you kidding me? that was his primest of primez | ||
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yanmaodao
United States430 Posts
On August 10 2010 03:57 Sunyveil wrote: HOLD IT Didn't he play ROCK and Backho? How on earth can you say that they are both PvZ duncebuckets? BOTH OF THEM HAVE WINNING RECORDS AGAINST JAEDONG ON TELEVISED MATCHES. I'll say it again. BOTH OF THEM HAVE WINNING RECORDS AGAINST JAEDONG ON TELEVISED MATCHES. July lost only ONE game in that OSL that meant anything (A group round loss after he qualified doesn't count). And that was to Backho. Heck, he even beat Best after a failed 4 (5?) pool! Following that OSL, he was one of the only zergs still kicking in the scene, in addition to Jaedong and Luxury. None of the zergs were having any luck with ZvT. Don't believe me? Check old power ranks. If that isn't S-Class, I don't know what is. All revitalized shortly after his SKT -> STX trade. When JD first started, ZvP was actually his weak point. So I don't think vJaedong stats for Protosses who hit their peak prior to 2008 says very much. I love Tushin, but his third OSL win was the softest in recent history. | ||
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nitdkim
1264 Posts
I'd agree with most people here, Bisu. | ||
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JohannesH
Finland1364 Posts
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Papvin
Denmark610 Posts
On August 10 2010 02:19 dukethegold wrote: It's criminally negligent to dismiss Rock's contributions to other people's careers. Just wanted to highlight this brilliant and hillarious comment lol! New sig! | ||
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Djabanete
United States2786 Posts
His MSL was unusually easy, but it was merely an instance of the fifth-best player winning the title when the top four had dropped the ball. Jangbi and Luxury were arguably the best players at the time after TaekBangLeeSsang. *I know that sounds funny, but Jaedong is a class of his own. | ||
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jalstar
United States8198 Posts
Nada from IS to KTF to Pantech. Yellow from IS to KTF. GoRush from GO to SKT. Reach from Hanbitsoft to KTF. Nal_rA from GO to KTF. Pusan from Plus to MBC. Bisu from MBC to SKT. July from MBC to SKT to STX. Luxury from OGN to KTF. fOrGG from OZ to KTF. Midas from SKT to WeMade. So it actually happens quite often. | ||
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onihunter
United States515 Posts
On August 10 2010 01:19 Nal_rAwr wrote: with the exception of bisu, the rest on the list are nowhere half as near to S-class S-class is like top 10 dude forGG and luxury weren't at their primes, but they were definitely top 10 at one point before the trades | ||
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nayumi
Australia6499 Posts
On August 10 2010 06:47 TheNessman wrote: Leta is ABOUT to be traded. People will see that he is S class once he is on a team that doesn't actually suck. He is 60% plus is 3 of the 4 matchups. thats S class. whoever achieves that 4th MU is the true S-class /thread | ||
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Crunchums
United States11143 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On August 10 2010 07:34 O-ops wrote: Hard to prepare for proleague when you have both captain and ace responsibilities to a team that currently has 2 good players (including the ace). Leta has outgrown his gimmicky bs into a solid player, and it seems like he doesn't receive much love because he has to carry a team that doesn't really go anywhere for some time now because of the match-fixing and didn't get far in proleague because he has to carry said team. The guy ain't S-class, but he should receive more recognition. Jaedong, Flash, and to a lesser extent Stork have all carried the weight of their teams as they lagged behind, while still maintaining a strong presence in individual leagues. It's why we have the "Child Labor Terran" and "MoustacheZerg/PirateZerg/OzSucksBallsWithoutMe" memes. Leta is not S-class until he shows a stronger individual league performance, with or without proleague burdens. This is not to say he is incapable of it, but he has done nothing to date that would make me put money on his ability to win a Bo5. And for me, Bo5 ability plays a large part in determining whether someone is or isn't S-class. On August 10 2010 09:48 nayumi wrote: whoever achieves that 4th MU is the true S-class /thread Unfortunately, Leta's TvJaedong needs work--sitting at an amazing 0% winrate out of 8 games. | ||
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EntertainMe
864 Posts
Anytime Oz --> Ace. | ||
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Severedevil
United States4838 Posts
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Subversive
Australia2229 Posts
At the end of the day everyone has their own definitions of S-Class. Personal bias plays it's part, as does which games the respondent has watched. After all, during the middle of a season there's a hell of a lot of games being played and most of us don't watch even half of them. | ||
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hp.Shell
United States2527 Posts
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iD.NicKy
France767 Posts
nvm already said. | ||
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