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dtnmang
Profile Joined April 2010
Vietnam752 Posts
June 11 2010 01:26 GMT
#21
At least they are doing this for the good of the mass.
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MageKirby
Profile Joined July 2009
United States535 Posts
June 11 2010 01:36 GMT
#22
Ah, OGN, I knew you were on our side 8D
enzym
Profile Joined January 2010
Germany1034 Posts
June 11 2010 02:02 GMT
#23
i dunno. until i see the results im not convinced by this. lets hope that they're serious.
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dukethegold
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada5645 Posts
June 11 2010 02:18 GMT
#24
Well, whatever that works in the audience's interest.

Maybe this is just a delay tactic for all we know.
Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9172 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-11 02:46:23
June 11 2010 02:42 GMT
#25
On June 11 2010 10:10 ZlaSHeR wrote:
Once again showing everyone is willing to make this work except KeSPA

More like Blizzard is blackmailing all parties with the death of BW/esports and Kespa is the only one holding out. The thing is, even if they fold it's dead, don't even pretend Gretech/Blizz will be bothered coming up with a new webcast only proleague system. It'll be back to amateur everything... I wish Blizzard would invest in making foreign pro esports viable rather than trying to takeover/exploit the scene in korea.
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nobitax
Profile Joined November 2009
Chile19 Posts
June 11 2010 02:46 GMT
#26
wow great notice, doing everything possible to ensure that there are no problems ;D
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zrules
Profile Joined May 2010
United States88 Posts
June 11 2010 02:55 GMT
#27
It's still pretty depressing that this partnership with Gretech by Blizzard was essentially back room deal in order to undercut KeSPA, OGN, and MBC. Nobody seems innocent right now... which is probably the most saddening of this. People who are siding with one side or another because they are seen as a "good guy" seems foolish. For the most part it is pretty obvious that everybody is at fault some how, or has reasons that are not just "for the fans." While we fans might be the "pure ideal" that these groups seem to want to protect... the fact of the matter is that we fans are also being underhanded in our ideas of who deserves to "win" (if you can call it a victory). People who say "F*** Blizzard and their copyright law/DRM," well, they do have a right to do whatever the hell they want to their game. If you don't want to buy it, that's your responsibility to go through with that. As far as I know though, the original Starcraft didn't have any special things that say "you must sign an agreement to make a channel for this game," though any U.S. court would probably say, "they have had their rights abridged," even if this was the case. Also, for anybody who says that KeSPA has no rights or whatever... Blizzard didn't try to get involved with Korea's E-Sports scene until 2006/2007. They can't use the defense of "for the fans," when they didn't give a shit about the fans they had in Korea of a (by then) 6-8 year old game until after their merger (and years of World of Warcraft flooding their coffers mind you).

In any case, it's a mess... nobody is totally innocent (hell even I have a damn bias...). The only thing that matters is the end result.
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Comet702
Profile Joined April 2010
China236 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-11 03:31:21
June 11 2010 03:24 GMT
#28
oh, good
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wiesel
Profile Joined September 2008
Germany727 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-11 03:37:33
June 11 2010 03:36 GMT
#29
On June 11 2010 11:42 Scarecrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2010 10:10 ZlaSHeR wrote:
Once again showing everyone is willing to make this work except KeSPA

More like Blizzard is blackmailing all parties with the death of BW/esports and Kespa is the only one holding out. The thing is, even if they fold it's dead, don't even pretend Gretech/Blizz will be bothered coming up with a new webcast only proleague system. It'll be back to amateur everything... I wish Blizzard would invest in making foreign pro esports viable rather than trying to takeover/exploit the scene in korea.

The news says OGN did speak with Kespa already and seems Kespa agreed to talk to Gretech. If they can come to an agreement not much will change for BW. Well besides that Blizzard/gretech have some influence on kespa of course but they don't stop broadcasting... What do you mean with back to amateur everything?
dogabutila
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1437 Posts
June 11 2010 03:52 GMT
#30
On June 11 2010 11:55 zrules wrote:stuff


Dude, your analysis is pretty much completely wrong. Blizz tried to get in earlier then that. Even before that though, they were fixing the game. SC/BW was not an amazing game when it first came out.



On June 11 2010 10:01 White_Wolf wrote:
I believe Kespa is going to talk to Gretech as well because it says
"OnGameNet has talked with KeSPA and have decided to negotiate to prevent the worst case scenario."
The have is plural so I'm guessing OnGameNet AND KeSPA will talk to Gretech. KeSPA has received a lot of hate, but we shouldn't give up on them.



What are you talking about. Have is obviously referring to OGN only.
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Whiplash
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States2929 Posts
June 11 2010 03:55 GMT
#31
Great news, I don't know how much OGN/MBC liked kespa in the first place so things are looking bright for sc proscene now.
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KnightOfNi
Profile Joined December 2007
United States1508 Posts
June 11 2010 04:03 GMT
#32
Finally the tv stations stop taking it from kespa >.>...
RIP eSTRO :(
Arco
Profile Joined September 2009
United States2090 Posts
June 11 2010 04:19 GMT
#33
Free at last, free at last! Thank God Almighty, we are free at last!
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
June 11 2010 04:53 GMT
#34
Yes!
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Jacopana
Profile Joined September 2009
El Salvador210 Posts
June 11 2010 05:45 GMT
#35
nice!! I think kespa is making their first step to overcome all this mess
tyCe
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia2542 Posts
June 11 2010 06:39 GMT
#36
On June 11 2010 10:01 White_Wolf wrote:
I believe Kespa is going to talk to Gretech as well because it says
"OnGameNet has talked with KeSPA and have decided to negotiate to prevent the worst case scenario."
The have is plural so I'm guessing OnGameNet AND KeSPA will talk to Gretech. KeSPA has received a lot of hate, but we shouldn't give up on them.

You know that the news is directly translated by the OP right? So there can easily be grammatical errors and oversights. Probably shouldn't delve so much into syntax and semantics.
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-11 06:40:21
June 11 2010 06:40 GMT
#37
edit: nm
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omninmo
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
2349 Posts
June 11 2010 06:42 GMT
#38
rejoice?
cYaN
Profile Joined May 2004
Norway3322 Posts
June 11 2010 07:06 GMT
#39
What a slowly unfolding drama. Hehe. I guess we'll only know shortly before new osls/msls start.
Emon_
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
3925 Posts
June 11 2010 07:24 GMT
#40
From previous articles we know Gretech/Blizzard have absurd demands and dont want to negotiate. Now that they are talking its basically OGN caving in and accepting some of the crap that they want. Either way, OSL is making a turn for the worse.
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