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StylishVODs
Profile Joined December 2005
Sweden5331 Posts
May 08 2010 11:38 GMT
#41
On May 08 2010 19:36 sungsik- wrote:

Also korean started to call Flash as GOD Young-Ho.(Young-Ho is flash's real name)

What this means is boxer, nada, oov, savior are four BonJwa, which is used to represent players who dominate for long time, and flash is the first God line.


According to Reach, he is the fastest learner he has ever seen. He start bw only like 2/3 years ago. Infact, his bw history knowledge is so limited, he didn't even know what the map Guillotine was.
x11tman
Profile Joined February 2009
Finland50 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-08 12:20:04
May 08 2010 11:58 GMT
#42
Great thread!

Bisu has been my favorite player and I think I started watching pro starcraft right about when he started his rocket-like climb from his first slump to win another MSL and GOM Classic S2... LOL. He needs to do it again. EDIT: And I forgot to mention Bisu's 53 wins in the 2008-2009 Proleague season.

Flash's graph is pretty godlike and Jaedong's high level consistency is extremely impressive.
Armathai
Profile Joined October 2007
1023 Posts
May 08 2010 12:03 GMT
#43
Guessed Flash&Nada correctly, but while Flash is obviously dominating it's also really crazy to see how JD' rate has been consistently high
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lgd-haze
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden547 Posts
May 08 2010 12:21 GMT
#44
On May 08 2010 20:38 StylishVODs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2010 19:36 sungsik- wrote:

Also korean started to call Flash as GOD Young-Ho.(Young-Ho is flash's real name)

What this means is boxer, nada, oov, savior are four BonJwa, which is used to represent players who dominate for long time, and flash is the first God line.





This means no more "Flash is bonjwa!" thread? Koreans aknowledge him as one step ahead of that, hooray!
Flying Tushin!!
Divinek
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada4045 Posts
May 08 2010 12:24 GMT
#45
it's funny cause nada is like ====, flash is like ^^^ and savior is like \/\/\/, really nice graph
Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
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Keniji
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands2569 Posts
May 08 2010 12:26 GMT
#46
I hate this horrible and misleading graphs.
I seems like savior has a winratio near to zero just because the stupid graph starts at 40%. They should have used a exponentially function for the ordinate as well, it would have looked even more mind-blowing. That said, the information itself is still very interersting.
x11tman
Profile Joined February 2009
Finland50 Posts
May 08 2010 12:30 GMT
#47
Oh BTW, the graphs of multiple starleague winners Nal_rA and JulyZerg would have been interesting too.
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
May 08 2010 12:49 GMT
#48
God Young Ho indeed...
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Slunk
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany768 Posts
May 08 2010 13:01 GMT
#49
Stork needs to quit WoW and kick some ass.
Crunchums
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States11143 Posts
May 08 2010 13:11 GMT
#50
well i know which one is flash : 3
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StylishVODs
Profile Joined December 2005
Sweden5331 Posts
May 08 2010 13:22 GMT
#51
On May 08 2010 21:26 Keniji wrote:
I hate this horrible and misleading graphs.
I seems like savior has a winratio near to zero just because the stupid graph starts at 40%. They should have used a exponentially function for the ordinate as well, it would have looked even more mind-blowing. That said, the information itself is still very interersting.


You hate it because you neglect seeing the facts presented?
You can clearly see the win% in the left.

I could say I hate this graph coz it looks just like random strokes to me :O
According to Reach, he is the fastest learner he has ever seen. He start bw only like 2/3 years ago. Infact, his bw history knowledge is so limited, he didn't even know what the map Guillotine was.
Lazerbeems
Profile Joined May 2010
151 Posts
May 08 2010 14:12 GMT
#52
On May 08 2010 22:01 Slunk wrote:
Stork needs to quit WoW and kick some ass.


Its not WoW anymore, get with the times. He's too busy playing the Korean version of Farmville
Fumi
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
529 Posts
May 08 2010 14:32 GMT
#53
On May 08 2010 19:36 sungsik- wrote:

Also korean started to call Flash as GOD Young-Ho.(Young-Ho is flash's real name)

What this means is boxer, nada, oov, savior are four BonJwa, which is used to represent players who dominate for long time, and flash is the first God line.

Haha, I like that name.
Flash, Stats, Reach, Tossgirl <> Boxer, Nestea, MC, Foxer fangirl | http://osu.ppy.sh/u/181432
peidongyang
Profile Joined January 2009
Canada2084 Posts
May 08 2010 15:33 GMT
#54
lol @ savior

holy crap @ flash and nada
the throws never bothered me anyway
Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
May 08 2010 16:09 GMT
#55
Man I have always liked savior but seeing that graph makes me a sad panda.
Python is garbage, number 1 advocate of getting rid of it.
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8552 Posts
May 08 2010 16:18 GMT
#56
God-ho!
Jaedong
Keniji
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands2569 Posts
May 08 2010 16:30 GMT
#57
On May 08 2010 22:22 StylishVODs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2010 21:26 Keniji wrote:
I hate this horrible and misleading graphs.
I seems like savior has a winratio near to zero just because the stupid graph starts at 40%. They should have used a exponentially function for the ordinate as well, it would have looked even more mind-blowing. That said, the information itself is still very interersting.


You hate it because you neglect seeing the facts presented?
You can clearly see the win% in the left.

I could say I hate this graph coz it looks just like random strokes to me :O


Read my text again. It seems like =! I don't see the facts.
Of course you can see the facts if you look at the graph "in detail", tho on the first view, it looks more dramatically then it actually is. You know there are whole jobs based on "manipulating" statistics with graphs (ie. labeling the ordinate "unusual") so you can trick people in seeing things that are not really there. Not everyone is as smart as you are and not every graph is that easy to see throw like this one, but it's still a problem. There is no problem with starting at 0% (except it wouldn't look so dramatically).

I know it's not a big deal, but I just don't like it showing statistics in a way they not really are.
bearbuddy
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3442 Posts
May 08 2010 16:33 GMT
#58
Leesang Taekbang and the bonjwas?

Throw in triple crown and hungry zerg in there =). Although their pattern would probably be just like the other old gamers.
StylishVODs
Profile Joined December 2005
Sweden5331 Posts
May 08 2010 17:43 GMT
#59
On May 09 2010 01:30 Keniji wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2010 22:22 StylishVODs wrote:
On May 08 2010 21:26 Keniji wrote:
I hate this horrible and misleading graphs.
I seems like savior has a winratio near to zero just because the stupid graph starts at 40%. They should have used a exponentially function for the ordinate as well, it would have looked even more mind-blowing. That said, the information itself is still very interersting.


You hate it because you neglect seeing the facts presented?
You can clearly see the win% in the left.

I could say I hate this graph coz it looks just like random strokes to me :O


Read my text again. It seems like =! I don't see the facts.
Of course you can see the facts if you look at the graph "in detail", tho on the first view, it looks more dramatically then it actually is. You know there are whole jobs based on "manipulating" statistics with graphs (ie. labeling the ordinate "unusual") so you can trick people in seeing things that are not really there. Not everyone is as smart as you are and not every graph is that easy to see throw like this one, but it's still a problem. There is no problem with starting at 0% (except it wouldn't look so dramatically).

I know it's not a big deal, but I just don't like it showing statistics in a way they not really are.


I didn't say you didn't see the facts, just that you neglected seeing them...

Starting with 0% would be useless for the data since no data covers 0% winratio for any player.
Graphs are ment to show the important parts. Like you wouldn't let the y-line, measured in number of titles, continue up to 1000 on a graph that shows how many SL titles each progamer has won simply because there are no data that reaches that many.

I understand what you mean though, but I felt you were abit harsh on the graph...
You could argue that you hate graphs in general
According to Reach, he is the fastest learner he has ever seen. He start bw only like 2/3 years ago. Infact, his bw history knowledge is so limited, he didn't even know what the map Guillotine was.
pyr0ma5ta
Profile Joined May 2010
United States458 Posts
May 08 2010 18:13 GMT
#60
Savior
"I made you a zergling, but I eated it." - Defiler
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