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Piste
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
6183 Posts
April 19 2010 01:14 GMT
#41
BaBy vs effort sure would not be that close (53%to47%)
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7851 Posts
April 19 2010 01:21 GMT
#42
On April 19 2010 08:40 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2010 08:38 Vasoline73 wrote:
On April 19 2010 08:29 lone_hydra wrote:
On April 19 2010 08:28 Vasoline73 wrote:
When ForGG beats Kal I wonder what the STX fans will have to say

I BELIEVE


You better hope to god forgg devices 2 ingenious timing pushes or cheeses, cause he is not winning in the macro war that is standard TvP.

ForGG not winning a macro war? Hmmmm.

Blind faith for the win, ForGG will definetly 2-0 Kal and proceed to advance to the finals...


Lol.

Stove > ForGG. Never forget.

Series, ForGG . Arena MSL ForGG is back, going to win this OSL. lol. At this point I wouldn't mind him taking the title from Flash... even though that's pretty much impossible :X.
seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9803 Posts
April 19 2010 01:21 GMT
#43
On April 19 2010 10:21 Vasoline73 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2010 08:40 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
On April 19 2010 08:38 Vasoline73 wrote:
On April 19 2010 08:29 lone_hydra wrote:
On April 19 2010 08:28 Vasoline73 wrote:
When ForGG beats Kal I wonder what the STX fans will have to say

I BELIEVE


You better hope to god forgg devices 2 ingenious timing pushes or cheeses, cause he is not winning in the macro war that is standard TvP.

ForGG not winning a macro war? Hmmmm.

Blind faith for the win, ForGG will definetly 2-0 Kal and proceed to advance to the finals...


Lol.

Stove > ForGG. Never forget.

Series, ForGG . Arena MSL ForGG is back, going to win this OSL. lol. At this point I wouldn't mind him taking the title from Flash... even though that's pretty much impossible :X.


yeah, about as much chance of happening as him taking down jaedong
boomer hands
Kuja900
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3564 Posts
April 19 2010 01:26 GMT
#44
Heres to hoping someone pulls a Mind.
OMG you nasty gurl
ArC_man
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States2798 Posts
April 19 2010 01:41 GMT
#45
On April 19 2010 08:29 lone_hydra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2010 08:28 Vasoline73 wrote:
When ForGG beats Kal I wonder what the STX fans will have to say

I BELIEVE


You better hope to god forgg devices 2 ingenious timing pushes or cheeses, cause he is not winning in the macro war that is standard TvP.

What? Macro is about the only thing ForGG is good at
seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9803 Posts
April 19 2010 01:48 GMT
#46
On April 19 2010 10:41 ArC_man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2010 08:29 lone_hydra wrote:
On April 19 2010 08:28 Vasoline73 wrote:
When ForGG beats Kal I wonder what the STX fans will have to say

I BELIEVE


You better hope to god forgg devices 2 ingenious timing pushes or cheeses, cause he is not winning in the macro war that is standard TvP.

What? Macro is about the only thing ForGG is good at


forgg is famous for his timing attacks, not his macro. is macro is definitely not sub-par, but his timing is often perfect to the second.
boomer hands
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
April 19 2010 01:52 GMT
#47
ForGG used to be pretty famous for his macro, but it doesn't matter if he can't position his tank correctly in PvT.
Jaedong
dani_caliKorea
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
730 Posts
April 19 2010 01:57 GMT
#48
I bet on Zero/Kal vs. Baby finals
Megalisk
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States6095 Posts
April 19 2010 02:00 GMT
#49
Flash vs. ForGG would be so great!
Tear stained american saints and dirty guitar dreams across a universe of desert and blue sky , gas station coffee love letters and two dollar pistol kisses from thirty five dollar hotel room stationary .
MountainDewJunkie
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States10346 Posts
April 19 2010 02:38 GMT
#50
Effort's OSL run is going to be less impressive than by.(Z)hero's, (Z)type-b's, or (Z)Shine's.
[21:07] <Shock710> whats wrong with her face [20:50] <dAPhREAk> i beat it the day after it came out | <BLinD-RawR> esports is a giant vagina
dani_caliKorea
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
730 Posts
April 19 2010 02:52 GMT
#51
On April 19 2010 11:38 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
Effort's OSL run is going to be less impressive than by.(Z)hero's, (Z)type-b's, or (Z)Shine's.


Actually all those players had pretty impressive runs...

But yeah I would rather have Hyvaa than Effort...
nayumi
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia6499 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-19 03:18:18
April 19 2010 03:18 GMT
#52
Who cares whether Effort, Kal or Zero will make it to the finals when Flash will definitely win this OSL?

Much simpler analysis for OSL imo:

1. Flash: YES
2. Jaedong: NO
3. Conclusion: Flash to win the Korea Air OSL.

Sugoi monogatari onii-chan!
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32278 Posts
April 19 2010 05:12 GMT
#53
On April 19 2010 09:12 Ideas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2010 08:45 IntoTheWow wrote:
On April 19 2010 07:18 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
On April 19 2010 07:14 integral wrote:
interesting analysis, unfortunately ELO isn't a good measure of recent trends for each player. For example, I would put zero a 60 to 40 favorite over effort right now, not the other way around. Interestingly enough though I would say that effort would have a better shot of beating kal than zero. Either way I anticipate zero or kal being in the finals.

Also -- are these brackets confirmed or are you just speculating?


It's confirmed. 3 mirror matches in the Ro8 which is kind of unfortunate, but oh well.

When it's Kal vs. Zero I'll be sad and I won't know who to cheer for T_T

As for unbiased analysis: it just means that it's a flawed methodology. You guys should actually watch Kal's PvZ games. Effort's ZvP wins have all looked ugly as hell, whereas Kal loses in close games or wins in dominating fashion. Beyond the occasional terribly executed 2-gate =P


EffOrt vs Stork, Proleague Playoffs, Khan vs CJ super ace match.


so we're allowed to cite games almost a year old?

honestly the best indicator of a potential effort vs kal series is their WL game where Kal was tearing shit up a long time but then blew it in the last 5 minutes.

Effort plays a strong defensive style but I think he's way too predictable and will lose to Kal in a Bo5. But really i'm going to pick Zero over Effort in the Ro8.


High pressure games, in a specific match-up, against good opponents don't happen everyday.
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Profile Joined May 2008
United States4903 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-19 05:18:28
April 19 2010 05:18 GMT
#54
zero is better than effort at every matchup and everyone else is better vZ than effort is against their race
Wings
Profile Joined January 2010
United States999 Posts
April 19 2010 05:20 GMT
#55
guys, please don't get too heated up / flamed over this topic. OP did a fantastic job with analysis given what data he had about ELO (using Kespa rankings would be epic fail), and it was really interesting to read.

The fact is that, as pro SCBW fans, we want to make guesses, we want to speculate who will win, etc., and we gotta use what we have. The OP here simply decided to use the statistics from the better ranking system (ELO vs Kespa) to try and determine that end. It sure is better than all the fanboys screaming fake facts and starting fights over false data.
The probability of Kim Carrier getting all those predictions wrong is similar to the probability Flash loses a TvT. Kim Carrier MUST BE a genius. His only big mistake... STORK.
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51579 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-19 05:23:51
April 19 2010 05:23 GMT
#56
beat flash osl analysis from myself has baby as the front runner.
then kal and zero.
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Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States10328 Posts
April 19 2010 05:57 GMT
#57
On April 19 2010 10:48 majesty.k)seRapH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2010 10:41 ArC_man wrote:
On April 19 2010 08:29 lone_hydra wrote:
On April 19 2010 08:28 Vasoline73 wrote:
When ForGG beats Kal I wonder what the STX fans will have to say

I BELIEVE


You better hope to god forgg devices 2 ingenious timing pushes or cheeses, cause he is not winning in the macro war that is standard TvP.

What? Macro is about the only thing ForGG is good at


forgg is famous for his timing attacks, not his macro. is macro is definitely not sub-par, but his timing is often perfect to the second.


ohhh but during his arena win, forgg was famous for making more units than anyone but oov :O

also I remember when mind was an awesome timing attacker... darn.
Writer
nodule
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada931 Posts
April 19 2010 06:29 GMT
#58
The real question about (T)BaBy is how he'll deal with the pressure of later stages of a starleague. He's been quite impressive nerve-wise so far, though.
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21244 Posts
April 19 2010 07:03 GMT
#59
On April 19 2010 12:18 nayumi wrote:
Who cares whether Effort, Kal or Zero will make it to the finals when Flash will definitely win this OSL?

Much simpler analysis for OSL imo:

1. Flash: YES
2. Jaedong: NO
3. Conclusion: Flash to win the Korea Air OSL.



Better analysis:

1. Kal wasn't eliminated in Offlines.
2. Jaedong absent.
3. Conclusion: Kal will win the Korean Air OSL.
TranslatorBaa!
Turbovolver
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia2396 Posts
April 19 2010 07:09 GMT
#60
Baby has got this, anyone who says otherwise is blind Flash fanboy.
The original Bogus fan.
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