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goswser
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3548 Posts
April 13 2010 01:31 GMT
#741
How does Ret fit into this? I remember allegations of him releasing replays to another team while he was in korea, which he denied, but after this, it seems more likely....not to accuse him directly, this also gives a player actually selling training replays a better reason to blame him, to cover himself up.
say you were born into a jungle indian tribe where food was scarce...would you run around from teepee to teepee stealing meat scraps after a day lazying around doing nothing except warming urself by a fire that you didn't even make yourself? -rekrul
iCCup.Nove
Profile Joined March 2010
United States260 Posts
April 13 2010 01:32 GMT
#742
And how the hell was ret supposed to even talk to this person buying the reps?
LosingID8
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
CA10835 Posts
April 13 2010 01:33 GMT
#743
On April 13 2010 09:50 years wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2010 09:29 motoroia wrote:
3 gamers who are almost guaranteed to be involved in this scandal:

Savior, Sangho and UpMagic. These 3 are almost "confirmed" among Korean netizens



Show nested quote +
On April 13 2010 09:44 PanzerDragoon wrote:
On April 13 2010 09:29 motoroia wrote:
3 gamers who are almost guaranteed to be involved in this scandal:

Savior, Sangho and UpMagic. These 3 are almost "confirmed" among Korean netizens


What about Luxury? His complete collapse of skill and booting from the A team right as this kicks off is mighty suspicious



Show nested quote +
On April 13 2010 09:45 motoroia wrote:
ok 1 more confirmed

4 in total so far: savior, sangho, upmagic and luxury



????

lol
ModeratorResident K-POP Elitist
IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
April 13 2010 01:36 GMT
#744
ret was never accused of selling reps or anything like that, they just thought he was watching them with friends (he wasnt) which isnt allowed in itself.
http://www.splitreason.com/product/1152 release the gracken tshirt now available
Lebesgue
Profile Joined October 2008
4542 Posts
April 13 2010 01:39 GMT
#745
I am pretty shocked to be honest. All the big names being under investigation. I know people discussed it a lot above but I am really diasppointed that those gamers including really big ones have most probably done it. It makes you wonder if any of those games we all watched was rigged or was is a legit one. Who the fuck knows "who's who".

Even if they found that only some of those players guilty I will still wonder if the other are really innocent and if the current games are fixed or not.

the most scary thing is that we are talking here about fixing games on a huge scale. If there were just a couple of cases then it might be different. But more and more names are being mentioned and it makes me feel really uneasy...
AppleTart
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1261 Posts
April 13 2010 01:39 GMT
#746
Q: Any final words?
A: Something nasty has happened recently. It's just a rumor, but many progamers whom I believe won't commit such crimes are being named. I am disappointed that so many people are blinded by prejudice; that they are ignoring all the hard work the older progamers have put into making ESPORTS what it is today and is bashing upon ESPORTS as a whole, just because of a handful of people. There are countless other progamers who have worked hard and are still putting in a lot of effort, so I hope they (spectators) continue to watch over us. And I strongly appeal to everyone to continue their support and interest in ESPORTS.


From Sea[Shield] the man himself. Although it is unfortunate that there probably may be some dirt in the SC esports scene, we should also consider those that have worked hard!
always tired -_-
m3rciless
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1476 Posts
April 13 2010 01:39 GMT
#747
This was so obvious. Of course they're fixing matches. Of course Ma Jae Yoon bet against himself in that famous MSL finals and collected a million trillion dollars when he decided not to simply build a spore and sunk at every minline.
White-Ra fighting!
Triple7
Profile Joined April 2009
United States656 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-13 01:47:44
April 13 2010 01:40 GMT
#748
I'm strongly reminded of an old picture:
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Edit: And lol at the "So that's why * lost!" comments.
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darktreb
Profile Joined May 2007
United States3019 Posts
April 13 2010 01:44 GMT
#749
On April 13 2010 10:39 m3rciless wrote:
This was so obvious. Of course they're fixing matches. Of course Ma Jae Yoon bet against himself in that famous MSL finals and collected a million trillion dollars when he decided not to simply build a spore and sunk at every minline.


Yeah cause every other Z just did that afterward and Bisu was solved immediately....
Tossim111
Profile Joined October 2009
United States246 Posts
April 13 2010 01:51 GMT
#750
I guess Korea got scamming for money from us... *cought* WDT/Dudey/Smuft *cough*
tomatriedes
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
New Zealand5356 Posts
April 13 2010 01:52 GMT
#751
I'm starting to wonder if the heater might have taken a bribe as well.
Deathfate
Profile Joined November 2008
Spain555 Posts
April 13 2010 01:53 GMT
#752
On April 12 2010 15:56 Sadistx wrote:
(Z)sAviOr: I will destroy everyone in 2010.
Unless you pay me not to.


I just couldnt stop laughing at this, he saying he will be the best only to get money for the bets...
Feel the power of the zerg swarm.
Sosha
Profile Joined August 2004
United States749 Posts
April 13 2010 01:58 GMT
#753
so maybe Bisu threw the match to Yellow on HBR, because yellow wanted to still be known as the sexy-zerg-idol.. and the shame from doing so never left Bisu and has contaminated him to his current state...

!!!
Tranquility through fluid Motion. GlowBabyGlow.
Zozma
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1626 Posts
April 13 2010 02:02 GMT
#754
On April 13 2010 10:52 tomatriedes wrote:
I'm starting to wonder if the heater might have taken a bribe as well.
I don't blame the heater. Maybe if Kespa would treat their heaters better, things like this wouldn't happen.
tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-13 02:17:21
April 13 2010 02:06 GMT
#755
I have to laugh at all of the 'So that's why ____ happened!' posts.

Seriously, you don't know anything. To attribute every single variable, and every single surprise, and every single misplay to match fixing is absurd. Get a hold of yourselves, and wait until a credible authority provides actual evidence.

As for punishment, the top several cheaters ought to have their licenses revoked or something Pete Rose-esque. A public apology from the rest.

Or: they all move to ACE.
ModeratorEffOrt, Snow, GuMiho, and Team Liquid
MrMoose
Profile Joined June 2009
Canada176 Posts
April 13 2010 02:18 GMT
#756
On April 13 2010 11:02 Zozma wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2010 10:52 tomatriedes wrote:
I'm starting to wonder if the heater might have taken a bribe as well.
I don't blame the heater. Maybe if Kespa would treat their heaters better, things like this wouldn't happen.

Lol. On a side note, you changed your fav team! For shame...
When in doubt, lubricate!
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33723 Posts
April 13 2010 02:19 GMT
#757
On April 13 2010 10:30 whamm wrote:
"let's see if kespa is still around in 5 years. " - H.O.T. forever

Where's that quote from?
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
Zozma
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1626 Posts
April 13 2010 02:20 GMT
#758
On April 13 2010 11:18 MrMoose wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2010 11:02 Zozma wrote:
On April 13 2010 10:52 tomatriedes wrote:
I'm starting to wonder if the heater might have taken a bribe as well.
I don't blame the heater. Maybe if Kespa would treat their heaters better, things like this wouldn't happen.

Lol. On a side note, you changed your fav team! For shame...
Hmmm... I'm still hoping at least Leta isn't involved, but since so many players from the sparkyz team are under suspicion, I think it's best to be prepared for the worst...

T____T
verteqz
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada89 Posts
April 13 2010 02:22 GMT
#759
On April 13 2010 09:49 TallMax wrote:
Some day one of them will inspire and coach a group of brothers who want to use Kung-Fu to play Starcraft (points to you if you get the reference). Wait for the results of the investigation. Don't get your panties in a bundle. At least the TL SC2 tourney was legit.


Shaolin Soccer.
// verteqz.com
MrMoose
Profile Joined June 2009
Canada176 Posts
April 13 2010 02:23 GMT
#760
Maybe... imagine hite without leta, yarnc and gogo... :S

main lineup = puma, horang2, hogil, t-bizzle?

gotta be faithful
When in doubt, lubricate!
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